Al Gore & The Global Warming Agenda

[Lenny]

How come the Creator put those darn Christian hating, Co-depending Homosexual Loving, Rascist, invalid, illogical, self driven, dangerous and having nothing to do with love, right and wrong, open-mindedness, tolerance, Liberals on this planet?

From your keyboard to God's screen. I'll have to ask that when I get there, but I fear the chasm will be to great for Her to hear.

[thewholetruth]

How come the Creator put those darn Christian hating, Co-depending Homosexual Loving, Rascist, invalid, illogical, self driven, dangerous and having nothing to do with love, right and wrong, open-mindedness, tolerance, Liberals on this planet?

He didn't put Christian hating, Co-depending Homosexual Loving, Rascist, invalid, illogical, self driven, dangerous and having nothing to do with love, right and wrong, open-mindedness, tolerance, Liberals on this planet. He put people here, and some of us BECAME those things, left to our own devices, and so, subject to the Enemy who comes to steal, kill and destroy us and our families. Others have not become those things, Ms. Terry, having found value in practicing principles and in seeking His will for us (after all, He has plans for us, to prosper and not to harm us) as a way of life.

He could have designed and created us all to be madly in love with Him, devoted and obedient right out of the chute. Apparently, like the rest of us who are made in His image, He wanted us to love Him NOT because He forced us to, but because the experience of our relationship with Him - those of us who have one - results in our falling madly in love with Him because of who He is, He who provides and heals and loves and blesses and teaches and corrects and forgives us the way He does.

[thewholetruth]

From your keyboard to God's screen. I'll have to ask that when I get there, but I fear the chasm will be to great for Her to hear.

I'm afraid you're correct, sir.

[MsTerry]

. He put people here, and some of us BECAME those things, left to our own devices, and so, subject to the Enemy who comes to steal, kill and destroy us and our families.

Gosh darn Don, you finally said it! There is such a thing as My Truth or your truth, as in our own devices.(which after all God created). Now besides those Liberals why did God create "the Enemy"?

[MsTerry]

Is that Her-esy?

From your keyboard to God's screen. I'll have to ask that when I get there, but I fear the chasm will be to great for Her to hear.

[Lenny]

Well, Lenny, that was my point.
The government seems to be able to do something right considering how many people are being serviced. I have no problem with DMV either.

So, if things are slow and one needs a slow, measured response, then government can fill that bill, is that it? We may agree on many things, but this is hardly one. Still elements of truth abound.
For me the Katrina debacle was about the norm in government response, and I know many want to put it directly on G.W., but it doesn't really stand that way. I've no real problem with the DMV lately, but from what we know, we are simply comparing it to what use to be, a nightmare. Thank goodness for internet stuff on that end. Much past the city size, government simply moves out of its way in greater and greater amounts of time AND money. At the county level we have the grand jury that will look into any machinations that are brought to its attention. And I encourage that in every way, and often. Past the county level, and it's all a cumbersome behemoth. And we won't even mention the alphabet soup of government agencies. You are right: the government can do SOMTHINGS right. But mostly not.

[thewholetruth]

Gosh darn Don, you finally said it! There is such a thing as My Truth or your truth, as in our own devices.(which after all God created). Now besides those Liberals why did God create "the Enemy"?

You couldn't be more wrong, Ms. Terry. There is no such thing as "your truth" or "my truth". There is THE truth, or there is that which not THE truth, of which opinions fall. Look the word up already, for goodness sake.

Our own devices, Ms. Terry, certainly has nothing necessarily to do with the truth. How you leapt to calling "our own devices" the same as "my truth/your truth" shows how desperate you are, methinks, to rationalize your own devices. Our own devices, Ma'am, means our own selfish agenda coupled with our own limited power and limited wisdom, as opposed to the being in the Lord's plans FOR us, with the Lord's infinite power and wisdom that we tap into when we seek Him with all of our heart.

I hope you weren't injured in that fall, Ms. Terry, because a reckless giant leap like you just took surely resulted in an awkward landing, at best. Why, I can see it from here.

[Lenny]

Gosh darn Don, you finally said it! There is such a thing as My Truth or your truth, as in our own devices.(which after all God created). Now besides those Liberals why did God create "the Enemy"?

As I imperfectly understand it, so you'all can correct me, it is just two words:
Free Choice.
And believe me that knocks me off my ass.

[MsTerry]

You couldn't be more wrong, Ms. Terry. There is no such thing as "your truth" or "my truth". There is THE truth, or there is that which not THE truth, of which opinions fall. Look the word up already, for goodness sake.

We already went over this, Don
I even printed it for you so that you could see it, but instead you put your blinders all the way in front of you.

Our own devices, Ms. Terry, certainly has nothing necessarily to do with the truth. How you leapt to calling "our own devices" the same as "my truth/your truth" shows how desperate you are, methinks, to rationalize your own devices. Our own devices, Ma'am, means our own selfish agenda coupled with our own limited power and limited wisdom, as opposed to the being in the Lord's plans FOR us, with the Lord's infinite power and wisdom that we tap into when we seek Him with all of our heart.

Don, this is your truth not everybody else's truth.
God did leave us to our own devices, unless you consider talking to yourself, a divine contact.
In your finite wisdom you forgot to tell us why the "Creator" created "the Enemy"?

[MsTerry]

As I imperfectly understand it, so you'all can correct me, it is just two words:
Free Choice.
And believe me that knocks me off my ass.

And that is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

[Braggi]

I don't concern myself with Armageddon, Jeff. I'm more concerned with the hear and now. Life on this level is a full-time job, IMO. Tomorrow is God's business. ...

I'm sincerely glad to hear that. You keep giving me reasons to believe that you are at least seeking grounding in reality even if you have a hard time finding it.

...
What Liberal means today is very different than what it meant even 40 years ago or 2000 years ago, thank you very little human nature. ...

And I thought words meant something to you, Don! You disappoint me here. This is your truth, Don, not anyone else's I've ever talked to except perhaps ReportandDeport. I know you and he are cut from different cloth, as they say, but it saddens me to see all your projections on the word liberal.

The root of liberal truly is a capitol "L" word and few who use the the word liberal as a curse word, as you do, know what it means. Liberal is based on the name of the Roman God Liber, whose name means literallly "to be free." His sister and alter ego is the Goddess Liberty who used to be respected in this country. Seems to me since Nixon days and probably before, that Goddess is getting less and less respect in this country as time goes by.

So liberals are people who want to be free, Don and liberals want you to be free as well as long as you're allowing them to be free.

So maybe you've misidentified who liberals are. Maybe the hatred you're seeing in them is just a reflection of what's in your own heart. Maybe the "discrimination" you're seeing is what you're creating through the filters of your own prejudice.

The Wiccans have a saying: If it harms none, do what you will. That's a statement of freedom with responsibility. What it means to "harm none" is a source of endless debate, of course, but I think Christians would view that as free choice. I think a healthy inner compass allows us to make those choices in a healthy way. Some's compasses better than other's.

...
Probably more than you expected, but I'm sure I provided plenty of ammunition for you to vilify me and attack me with. ...

I don't think I do much vilifying or attacking Don. That might be your projection again. Gotta watch that.

-Jeff

[thewholetruth]

We already went over this, Don
I even printed it for you so that you could see it, but instead you put your blinders all the way in front of you.
Don, this is your truth not everybody else's truth.

Impossible, Ms. Terry. I don't have "a truth". Either it's the truth, or it's not. If it's not the truth, then it cannot be called "truth". It becomes a "lie" or an "opinion", but calling an opinion "my truth" is absurd. It's my opinion, your opinion, but it cannot be called "truth" if it isn't THE truth.

God did leave us to our own devices, unless you consider talking to yourself, a divine contact.

Wrong again, Ms. Terry. He is with us always. For those who know Him, He is in us, in fact. If you seek Him, you will find Him. Reach out to Him and He will reach out to you. We are never alone, Ma'am, and never left to our own devices unless that is how we choose to walk each day. The choice is ours, each and every one of us, every single day we spend above ground. I don't expect you to understand and I don't judge you because you don't understand, because I understand why that is.

In your finite wisdom you forgot to tell us why the "Creator" created "the Enemy"?

As Lenny already told you, which you are now feigning ignorance to pretend you didn't see: Free choice, or free will, Ms. Terry. The Lord gave us that to choose our paths in this life. He doesn't want us to love Him because He forces us to. He wants us to develop spiritually and personally, to seek a relationship with Him because He is our Creator and because He loves us so much. If we trust Him and seek Him and follow Him, He gives us eyes to see the truth, Ma'am. For those who see, we also become extraordinarily grateful for what He's done for us, and love comes completely natural to those in that kind of a state of gratitude.

The Enemy made his own choice, Ms. Terry, as do you. He paid a price for it, as well, as do you.

[thewholetruth]

I'm sincerely glad to hear that. You keep giving me reasons to believe that you are at least seeking grounding in reality even if you have a hard time finding it.

Jeff heaving rock #1 for this post.

And I thought words meant something to you, Don! You disappoint me here. This is your truth, Don...

Is what I said true or not, Jeff? Yes or no?

Either it's the truth or it's not. I don't have "a truth", Jeff. I line up with Reality in things either being true or not true. I haven't the power to make up "a truth". I do have the power to acknowledge what IS true and what is not. That which is not the truth, by the way, cannot be called "truth", Jeff, not "my truth", not "your truth", not "Beelzebub's truth". If it's not THE truth, Jeff, then it's no one's truth.

...not anyone else's I've ever talked to except perhaps ReportandDeport. I know you and he are cut from different cloth, as they say, but it saddens me to see all your projections on the word liberal.

You asked me what Liberal means. I haven't "projected" anything. I simply answered your question and told you what I've observed in the behavior of Liberals today. If you disagree with me, by all means be more specific and let's talk about it...if you have the courage to go there. It seems like you feel a little safer throwing rocks from afar, but I'd be happy to address my observations on today's Liberals and today's version of Liberalism line for line if you dare.

So liberals are people who want to be free, Don and liberals want you to be free as well as long as you're allowing them to be free.

I see, so it's a conditional thing, this being "free"? Let me see if I understand you here: If I don't want them to be free to drive on the roadways intoxicated or kill babies before they're born, then they don't want me to be free? Why is that, Jeff? That seems like an odd philosophy. Either they want people to be free or they don't. Which is it?

So maybe you've misidentified who liberals are.

Maybe I haven't misidentified anything, Jeff. I've merely shared with you my observation of the behavior of many Liberals I've encountered in my 53 years on the planet. If you'd like to take my observation line by line, let's do it. I'd love to talk about the blatant racism and open discrimination practiced by today's Liberals if you want to have an honest dialogue about it.

Maybe the hatred you're seeing in them is just a reflection of what's in your own heart. Maybe the "discrimination" you're seeing is what you're creating through the filters of your own prejudice.

I don't discriminate against anyone, Jeff, nor do I hate anyone. I also refuse to codepend anyone.

The Wiccans have a saying: If it harms none, do what you will. That's a statement of freedom with responsibility. What it means to "harm none" is a source of endless debate, of course, but I think Christians would view that as free choice. I think a healthy inner compass allows us to make those choices in a healthy way. Some's compasses better than other's.

If American Liberals followed that creed, Jeff, the world would be a better place. They don't. They support killing children before they're born. That harms some. So holding up the Wiccan's creed is meaningless, Jeff, when you don't follow it yourself. It seems comical, in fact, that you would offer it up at all, all things considered.

I don't think I do much vilifying or attacking Don. That might be your projection again. Gotta watch that.

I disagree, Jeff. You spend a lot of time vilifying and attacking me and others who disagree with you here, and you're careful to avoid having an actual dialogue about things, as well, carefully avoiding addressing specific statements in favor of throwing rocks at me personally and generally.

[Braggi]

...
I disagree, Jeff. You spend a lot of time vilifying and attacking me and others who disagree with you here, and you're careful to avoid having an actual dialogue about things, as well, carefully avoiding addressing specific statements in favor of throwing rocks at me personally and generally.

"Projection is a wonderful thing."

-Jeff

[MsTerry]

Impossible, Ms. Terry. I don't have "a truth". Either it's the truth, or it's not. If it's not the truth, then it cannot be called "truth". It becomes a "lie" or an "opinion", but calling an opinion "my truth" is absurd. It's my opinion, your opinion, but it cannot be called "truth" if it isn't THE truth.

I'll keep it simple for you .
Is Islam the truth or a lie?
is Buddhism the truth or a lie?
is Hinduism the truth or a lie?
is any religion other than Christianity the truth or a lie?
Please note that you can only pick one answer

[MsTerry]

OK, I get it, we are mixing different forms of gov.
I am thinking local and county wide.
Katrina was a lesson for GW, He did screw up, he did not act when it was needed to overstep all the little agencies that usually help.
In the end it was the little agencies that made the diference

So, if things are slow and one needs a slow, measured response, then government can fill that bill, is that it? We may agree on many things, but this is hardly one. Still elements of truth abound.
For me the Katrina debacle was about the norm in government response, and I know many want to put it directly on G.W., but it doesn't really stand that way. I've no real problem with the DMV lately, but from what we know, we are simply comparing it to what use to be, a nightmare. Thank goodness for internet stuff on that end. Much past the city size, government simply moves out of its way in greater and greater amounts of time AND money. At the county level we have the grand jury that will look into any machinations that are brought to its attention. And I encourage that in every way, and often. Past the county level, and it's all a cumbersome behemoth. And we won't even mention the alphabet soup of government agencies. You are right: the government can do SOMTHINGS right. But mostly not.

[thewholetruth]

"Projection is a wonderful thing."

-Jeff

Let me make it even easier for you then, Jeff, since your implication is that you aren't here to throw rocks and avoid the truth. Here is my response to your previous inquiry regarding my understanding of what Liberalism is. Please take the time to let me know specifically what you disagree with if you disagree with any of it, rather than giving such an irrelevant, generic response such as you already did.

Or do you agree with me about all of this? I'm interested in your thoughts now:

What Liberal means today is very different than what it meant even 40 years ago or 2000 years ago, thank you very little human nature. Extremely affected by major societal dysfunction today, codependence and selfishness steer the Liberals of today's world. Not so 40 years ago or 2000 years ago. Today's version of Liberalism is a very bastardized, practically indistinguishable version compared to the Liberal views of yesteryear. After 50 years and two or three generations of folks believing mantras like "If it feels good do it", "Looking out for number one" and the ridiculous "my truth/your truth" b.s., I view Liberalism today as invalid, illogical, self driven, dangerous and having nothing to do with love, right and wrong, open-mindedness, tolerance, all of which are out the door when it comes to Liberals dealing with Christians and Christianity. Of course, when I identified myself as Liberal, Christian hating wasn't part of it. Discriminating against whites and Christians wasn't part of it. Codepending homosexuality wasn't part of it, either. Homosexuality was acknowledged as the annomaly that it is. Liberals weren't supporting racism like they do now (supporting "Miss Black America" pagents and events created solely for black people and "The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People" for example, when Liberals would NEVER tolerate a National Association for the advancement of White People. That's called "Racism", and Liberals today support it.)

Liberalism is a reflection of social sickness today, in large part, making homosexuals their darlings, ignoring THE truth in favor of calling everyone's OPINIONS "my truth" and "your truth", blind and oblivious to the fact that the word "truth" means something. It's gotten way out there, Jeff, and today's version of Liberalism is a major part of the problem in America today.

Fortunately, the very vocal left are extremists and nut cases and thus this version of Liberalism folks embrace today can't get a real foothold, because most people have more common sense than to support racism and discrimination against whites and Christians like y'all do today.

But all of this said, the battle is not between you and me, Jeff. It is not a battle of flesh and blood. It is truly spiritual warfare taking place and those spiritually undeveloped cannot see it going on, thus they're deluded into thinking they are the center of the Universe, when the truth is that our Creator created us and everything on the planet, we haven't the power to do anything REMOTELY similar, and we're not the center of anything, other than we're SELF-centered, which isn't the same thing at all as being the center of the Universe. It's unhealthy, this self-centeredness, and Liberalism is all about worshipping Self today.

[Braggi]

Let me make it even easier for you then, Jeff, since your implication is that you aren't here to throw rocks and avoid the truth. ... Please take the time to let me know specifically what you disagree with if you disagree with any of it, rather than giving such an irrelevant, generic response such as you already did.
...

If I was here to "avoid the truth" I wouldn't be here.

My comment was not irrelevant, Don. I was letting you know what Liberal (with a capitol L) means. It means a person who loves freedom Don. That's not so tough. You didn't respond to that because you don't like the truth. You make up your own version of the truth Don and then try to force it on others. Doesn't work that way. Not with me.

...
Or do you agree with me about all of this? I'm interested in your thoughts now:

What Liberal means today is very different than what it meant even 40 years ago or 2000 years ago, thank you very little human nature. Extremely affected by major societal dysfunction today, codependence and selfishness steer the Liberals of today's world. ...
...

No, Don. That doesn't describe me but I am a liberal minded person. So these are the "rocks" you throw. Mean, offensive verbiage. You come here claiming we're all "Liberals" and then you define it in such a disgusting and dismissive way. And then you claim to be TheWholeTruth? Your presentation is just so rude Don. Don't you see that?

You claim to want intelligent discussion here, but who wants to discuss anything with someone who sets himself so far above those he's trying to converse with.

You claim the power and authority of your God, and then you offend everyone else on the board. What fun is that, Don?

...
But all of this said, the battle is not between you and me, Jeff. ...

Of course not. This is a one person battle. The rest of us are just watching you wrestle with your inner demons on this list.

... It is truly spiritual warfare taking place and those spiritually undeveloped cannot see it going on, thus they're deluded into thinking they are the center of the Universe ...

So you see it all clearly because you are spiritually developed and not deluded? The rest of us are all Liberals and deluded and undeveloped? Is that right? Because I'm not at spiritual war Don. I don't want to play that game with you or anyone. I'd like to avoid war, if I can. And I think the spiritual is the physical, so how about that? Deluded, eh? I think not. That's just the truth. You can choose to realize it or not.

I think those who have been convinced they need to be in a state of constant war are deluded. What a shame! How awful that must be! To not be able to rest because it's necessary to be constantly on the alert. What a sad way to live.

... the truth is that our Creator created us and everything on the planet, we haven't the power to do anything REMOTELY similar, and we're not the center of anything, other than we're SELF-centered, which isn't the same thing at all as being the center of the Universe. It's unhealthy, this self-centeredness, and Liberalism is all about worshipping Self today.

Well, we are the only beings that can create more humanity. That's the Truth. We are the Creators. Take some responsibility, Don. That's one of the problems in this world that we can agree on: not enough people acting responsibly and not enough taking responsibility for their actions. I don't think there is a divide among liberals or conservatives. I think everyone needs to be responsible.

-Jeff

[thewholetruth]

If I was here to "avoid the truth" I wouldn't be here.

I apologize if my tone was harsh, Jeff. You asked me for a definition of Liberal, I answered and then you ignored the entire exchange. It certainly seemed like you were avoiding the truth to me. In fact, you were.

My comment was not irrelevant, Don. I was letting you know what Liberal (with a capitol L) means. It means a person who loves freedom Don. That's not so tough.

That's not so true, either, Jeff: https://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Liberal and these days, in this Liberal stronghold of West Sonoma County, it doesn't mean that at all, from what I can see.

You didn't respond to that because you don't like the truth.

That's not true at all, Jeff. I love the truth, the whole truth, and the real truth, not some selfish opinions that someone CALLS "my truth".

You make up your own version of the truth Don and then try to force it on others. Doesn't work that way. Not with me.

Not true at all, Jeff. Show me where I've tried "to force it on others" here. Show me what you're referring to, Jeff, or is this just how it FEELS to you?

No, Don. That doesn't describe me but I am a liberal minded person. So these are the "rocks" you throw.

I've thrown no rocks, Jeff. You asked me a question and I answered it.

Mean, offensive verbiage.

I simply answered your question, Jeff. Again, if you have a problem with any of my "verbiage", please have the courage to copy and paste just exactly what comments you find "mean, offensive", won't you? Speaking in general is nothing but crap when one is accusing the other of some offense. Be specific, Jeff, so I know what you mean. Otherwise, it just sounds like you're having a bad week.

You come here claiming we're all "Liberals"

I claimed no such thing, Jeff. You asked me what "Liberal" means and I told you. I don't know who is on this board. When I used the term "y'all", I mean all of you Liberals, not that everyone here on Wacco is a Liberal. We both know that's not true, don't we? You're being dishonest here, Jeff.

... and then you define it in such a disgusting and dismissive way.

I told you the truth about what Liberalism has become here, Jeff, in my opinion. You asked me, remember? Now you're whining that I've "dismissed" you? You asked the question, sir, and just because you didn't like the answer doesn't rationalize your being offended. I'm not responsible for how you feel, Jeff. I simply answered your question.

And then you claim to be TheWholeTruth? Your presentation is just so rude Don. Don't you see that?

No, Jeff, I don't. It's just an ID, sir, an ID I chose because I love the whole truth, not the imaginary "your truth/my truth" that folks use to rationalize their selfishness and rebelliousness.

You claim to want intelligent discussion here

And I do. I haven't found a whole lot of it yet, but I've found some.

... but who wants to discuss anything with someone who sets himself so far above those he's trying to converse with.

I see. This is about your self-esteem now. Jeff, please, don't personalize everything. You started this conversation about Liberalism with me. Don't turn victim on me. Wow. This is classic, Jeff. This is about as classic as today's Liberalism gets. I wonder if you can see how ironic your angle is right now.

You claim the power and authority of your God

Show me where I claimed such a thing, Jeff, will you please? I claimed no such thing, Jeff.

and then you offend everyone else on the board.

Have you taken a poll today, Jeff? Can I see the results of that poll? What? You haven't take a poll?!? Then how can you know what "everyone else on the board" thinks, Jeff? What's that? You can't? Then why are you going down Stupid Street right now, Jeff? What's the problem, really?

What fun is that, Don?

What fun is dishonesty, Jeff? What fun is character assassination and misrepresenting someone else's comments?

You asked me question, Jeff, and I answered it honestly. So now you're making a feeble attempt to accuse me of offending "everyone else on the board". LOL Jeff, what grade school antics, sir! Did you think your agenda wouldn't be completely transparent, Jeff? Do you think I'll ever take you seriously again after pulling this 5th grade crap here? Think again.

Of course not. This is a one person battle.

No it's not, Jeff. This battle isn't between you and I. This is between the one you serve and the one I serve.

The rest of us are just watching you wrestle with your inner demons on this list.

The "rest of us" who, Jeff? You and Ms. Terry? What you're really watching is your own feeble attempt to try to bait me so you can pretend I've insulted everybody. Feeble people make feeble attempts, Jeff.

So you see it all clearly because you are spiritually developed and not deluded?

I see a lot of it clearly, Jeff, and yes, for that reason.

The rest of us are all Liberals...

The rest of "us" who, Jeff? Who are you referring to? I was referring to all Liberals, and, um, so you're trying to pretend that I was referring to everyone on WaccoBB? Is that it, Jeff? Feeble, mister. Totally feeble attempt to misrepresent me here today. And this is exactly what I'm talking about, Liberal Representative Jeff. That you are here trying to MISREPRESENT my comments says volumes about your unwillingness to engage in intelligent dialogue and says volumes about how deceptive and dishonest you are. Liberalism makes that okay in your mind, Jeff, and in my world dishonesty and character assassination isn't okay. That's the difference between your deluded Liberal mind and my NOT-Liberal mind.

and deluded and undeveloped? Is that right?

It describes you personally, sir, and you're proving it right now in this thread.

I was talking about Liberals in general, Jeff, not everyone on this board. LOL Nice try though. I see what you're trying to do. Whatever, Jeff. Feeble, sir. LIBERALS are deluded today, yes. That is what I said. LIBERALS can't see the truth because they're too busy trying to convince others that their OPINIONS are "their truth". They've/you've lost sight of the REAL truth, Jeff, because you put so much value on your unfounded opinions and have total disregard for the truth, as you've shown here by trying to infer that I've made statements which have anything to do with "everyone else on this board". I made no such statement, Dishonest Jeff.

Because I'm not at spiritual war Don.

You're already a casualty of the war, Jeff. Trying to assassinate my character like you're doing in this post, misrepresenting me proves you've already become a casualty in the war, sir.

I don't want to play that game with you or anyone. I'd like to avoid war, if I can.

I hear you. And the Devil doesn't exist, right?

And I think the spiritual is the physical, so how about that? Deluded, eh? I think not. That's just the truth. You can choose to realize it or not.

In your opinion, Jeff. Unless you have some evidence to support your statement, it's not the truth. It's just another opinion that you like to call "my truth", propping up a big fat nothing and pretending it's something.

I think those who have been convinced they need to be in a state of constant war are deluded.

I'm not in a war, Jeff, nor did I say anything of the sort. I said quite the contrary. I said the war is not about flesh and blood. Go back and read my post again, because you're miles away from what I said.

What a shame! How awful that must be! To not be able to rest because it's necessary to be constantly on the alert. What a sad way to live.

How awful it must be to be unable to simply engage in intelligent dialogue without feeling like you have to assassinate someone's character by misrepresenting what they've said. That is what is sad, Jeff.

Well, we are the only beings that can create more humanity.

LOL Wrong, Jeff. No person created humanity. You can't. I can't. Ms. Terry can't. We can only REPRODUCE what the Creator has made. Wake up, sir. Man did not create Man. Man can only reproduce what our Creator has made.

That's the Truth. We are the Creators.

LOL That's a lie from Hell, Jeff. It's a big deluded falsehood that your Ego loves to believe is true. You haven't the intelligence to create a living being of any kind, Jeff. All you can do is reproduce what God has made.

Take some responsibility, Don.

Have some humility, Jeff.

That's one of the problems in this world that we can agree on: not enough people acting responsibly and not enough taking responsibility for their actions.

And then there are those who take credit for things they did not and cannot do.

I don't think there is a divide among liberals or conservatives. I think everyone needs to be responsible.

-Jeff

I disagree completely. There is a huge divide between Liberals and Conservatives here in America. For example, I would never try to misrepresent you here like you've attempted to misrepresent me, insinuating that I was referring to everyone on Wacco when I was really referring to all Liberals, Jeff. What you've done is dishonest. I abhor such conduct. There is evidence of some of the "divide" between us.

[thewholetruth]

I'll keep it simple for you .
Is Islam the truth or a lie?
is Buddhism the truth or a lie?
is Hinduism the truth or a lie?
is any religion other than Christianity the truth or a lie?
Please note that you can only pick one answer

That would be a matter of opinion, Ma'am.

[MsTerry]

That would be a matter of opinion, Ma'am.

L M F A O

No Sir,
Either your God is the truth or theirs.
Remember there is only one truth and you KNOW what it is!
Which one is it going to be, Don?
Who is delusional and who is telling The Truth?
I want the hear and know

[thewholetruth]

L M F A O

No Sir,
Either your God is the truth or theirs.
Remember there is only one truth and you KNOW what it is!
Which one is it going to be, Don?
Who is delusional and who is telling The Truth?
I want the hear and know

Ms. Terry, I'm going to conclude that you didn't attend public school here in America, nor private school, either, since you asked:

Is Islam the truth or a lie?

Islam is a religion.

is Buddhism the truth or a lie?

Buddhism is a religion.

is Hinduism the truth or a lie?

Hinduism is a religion.

is any religion other than Christianity the truth or a lie?

Any religion other than Christianity is a religion, Ma'am.

Please note that you can only pick one answer

Please note that I gave only one answer, Ms. Terry.

[MsTerry]

Please note that I gave only one answer, Ms. Terry.

No Sir Dodge and Hide, you didn't answer the question at all.
Now the Almighty Don thinks he is really clever, but I have to conclude YOU didn't go to ANY school at all.

Let me try a yes or no question, Don that means the answer can only be YES or NO.
Any other answer means you don't want to tell the truth, which means you aren't truthful.
Don, is Christianity teaching the truth about God?
Is there any religion other than Christianity that is teaching the truth about God?
Is it Buddhism?
Hinduism?
Islam?

[Lenny]

No Sir Dodge and Hide, you didn't answer the question at all.
Now the Almighty Don thinks he is really clever, but I have to conclude YOU didn't go to ANY school at all.

Let me try a yes or no question, Don that means the answer can only be YES or NO.
Any other answer means you don't want to tell the truth, which means you aren't truthful.
Don, is Christianity teaching the truth about God?
Is there any religion other than Christianity that is teaching the truth about God?
Is it Buddhism?
Hinduism?
Islam?

Can I guess that answers from a bumper sticker are the only ones allowed?
I don't think parts of Methodists counts, but some of Mahayana do?
Can the answer have more than 3 syllables, but less than four letters?
The BOTH of you, knock it off!

[Lenny]

OK, I get it, we are mixing different forms of gov.
I am thinking local and county wide.
Katrina was a lesson for GW, He did screw up, he did not act when it was needed to overstep all the little agencies that usually help.
In the end it was the little agencies that made the diference

And here I thought it was Wall Mart that made the difference! They were there LONG before (24 hours) G.W. and friends found the dyke AND his finger. It was WalMart, Salvation Army, Home Depot and a whole host of charities and businesses that were ready to do it, certainly not the great state of Louisiana which turned out to be as crooked as a pan of guts.
That and folks there, helping other folks. It wasn't just G.W. & fiends, it's all of gov't, and people are the ONLY ones that really "do it", for my money.
Like that other thread said (the gun one) "...when seconds count and the police are only minutes away..." I like that one!

[MsTerry]

Lenny, you don't get it
Don knows what The Truth is.
How many people have you come across in your life that know The Truth?
If there are people that are following the WRONG religion, they can't be saved.
All we have to do is follow in Don's footsteps, tell Jeff to lay off his crackpipe, and we too will be saved!
Isn't that worth ?

Can I guess that answers from a bumper sticker are the only ones allowed?
I don't think parts of Methodists counts, but some of Mahayana do?
Can the answer have more than 3 syllables, but less than four letters?
The BOTH of you, knock it off!

[Lenny]

How many people have you come across in your life that know The Truth?

All of them.

Isn't that worth ?

Sometimes, Alice, ohhhhh, sometimes ZIP, POW, to the MOON, Alice.
To THE MOON.

[thewholetruth]

No Sir Dodge and Hide, you didn't answer the question at all.

I answered every question you asked, Ma'am.

Now the Almighty Don...

*bLuSh* I'm just a man, Ms. Terry.

... thinks he is really clever, but I have to conclude YOU didn't go to ANY school at all.

Parroting is never attractive, Ms. Terry. Please.

Let me try a yes or no question, Don that means the answer can only be YES or NO.
Any other answer means you don't want to tell the truth, which means you aren't truthful.
Don, is Christianity teaching the truth about God?

Yes.

Is there any religion other than Christianity that is teaching the truth about God?

Not that I'm aware of. Of course, there isn't another religion in which someone claims to BE God, is there? No. The other religions are all about Man, or about what God does.

Is it Buddhism?

Buddhism is about God's power, and His creation.

Hinduism?

Cattle worship. I don't get it.

Islam?

Islam is about a man, a man who declared war on anyone who doesn't believe as he does.

Happy now, Ms. Terry?

[thewholetruth]

Lenny, you don't get it
Don knows what The Truth is.
How many people have you come across in your life that know The Truth?
If there are people that are following the WRONG religion, they can't be saved.
All we have to do is follow in Don's footsteps, tell Jeff to lay off his crackpipe, and we too will be saved!
Isn't that worth ?

Where did you get that idea, Ms. Terry? Is this what your life is about, making it up as you go along? Ignoring fact and truth in favor of whatever way the wind blows you the right way on a given day? When you stand for nothing, Ma'am, you fall for everything.

[thewholetruth]

All of them.



Sometimes, Alice, ohhhhh, sometimes ZIP, POW, to the MOON, Alice.
To THE MOON.

I always thought it was "Bang! Zoom! to the MOON, Alice. To the MOON.