Al Gore & The Global Warming Agenda

[d-cat]

The First Global Revolution: A Report by the Council of the Club of Rome (1991)
https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=8RNKHGbzUuAC


"It would seem that humans need a common motivation, namely a common adversary, to organize and act together in the vacuum; such a motivation must be found to bring the divided nations together to face an outside enemy, either a real one or else one invented for the purpose."

"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill."

“Sacrilegious though this may sound, democracy is no longer well suited for the tasks ahead. The complexity and the technical nature of many of today’s problems do not always allow elected representatives to make competent decisions at the right time.”







Al Gore is a member of the Club of Rome.




Al Gore is also a member of the CFR.
Others associated with the CFR include the Clintons, the Obamas, and John McCain.





Dick Cheney was the director of the CFR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbnpN07J_zg


Here is a quote from a recent article by the current CFR president Richard Haas

"Globalisation thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves, because they cannot insulate themselves from what goes on elsewhere. Sovereignty is no longer a sanctuary."
https://www.cfr.org/publication/9903...alisation.html


These elitist groups' goals are to establish an unelected one world government (i.e. to rule the world) through the UN by manipulation of the masses (war on terror, global warming), and to reduce world population to "manageable" levels (80-90% reduction). This will be attempted through war, social unrest and race wars (research La Raza, Aztlan, Mecha), famine, "natural" disasters (research HAARP), man-made diseases and bioweapons (expect more chemtrails), and vaccines. Are you being told by their controlled media and academia that humanity is the enemy and that there are too many of us? Good, you'll be more accepting of their genocide as their plans are carried out. Or would you rather let nature handle overpopulation if it exists, instead of Al Gore and his elitist buddies?


In addition to being a "globalist", Al Gore also appears to be a protégé of the late oil tycoon and known communist operative Armand Hammer, CEO of Occidental Petroleum Corporation.






Hammer supported Gore's father, Senator Al Gore Sr of Tennessee, with business partnerships prior to his entering politics. Financial support continued throughout his political career and a job was provided following his retirement from politics. The great influence of Hammer on the Gore family has sparked speculation that Al Gore Jr. is named after Armand (Gore Jr.'s middle name is only listed as "A." on his birth certificate). Here are some articles from 2000 on the subject:
https://findarticles.com/p/articles/...16/ai_61361634
https://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/a...TICLE_ID=14917



Gore Sr on the left next to Hammer, with little Al Jr at far right


You might also look into William Jefferson Clinton and his admitted mentor, Carroll Quigley
https://www.vloggingtheapocalypse.co...key=143a57db17

as well as the following groups:
CFR, Trilateral Commission, The Bilderberg Group, Skull & Bones

(btw Obama's handlers include Zbigniew Brzezinski - Trilateral Commission, Austan Goolsbee - Skull & Bones, and James A. Johnson - Bilderberg. Change??? Obama is a puppet and as establishment as it gets).




Wake up people. Our liberty and sovereignty are at stake. The longer it takes you to wake up to this, the smaller our chance is of defeating them. They are counting on your ignorance to succeed.


ENDGAME - Blueprint for Global Enslavement
https://video.google.com/videoplay?d...29053600562261

lecture by filmmaker
https://video.google.com/videoplay?d...73366067443695

[d-cat]

Report From Iron Mountain On the Possibility and Desirability of Peace (1967)
The Dial Press, Inc. 1967, New York, Library of Congress Catalog card number 67-27553.


"Nevertheless, an effective political substitute for war would require "alternate enemies," some of which might seem equally farfetched in the context of the current war system. It may be, for instance, that gross pollution of the environment can eventually replace the possibility of mass destruction by nuclear weapons as the principal apparent threat to the survival of the species."

"It is true that the rate of pollution could be increased selectively for this purpose: in fact, the mere modifying of existing programs for the deterrence of pollution could speed up the process enough to make the threat credible much sooner. But the pollution problem has been so widely publicized in recent years that it seems highly improbably that a program of deliberate environmental poisoning could be implemented in a politically acceptable manner."


The Report From Iron Mountain is purportedly a government report on the subject of how to continue controlling the public and the economy in the absence of war. It has been renounced as a hoax by the establishment (as would be expected whether true or not) but was reported to have been verified by a top Pentagon official. True or not, the fact remains that there was discussion as far back as the 60's of the idea of using an environmental threat as a means of manipulating the masses and ushering in a one world government. In 1972, Leonard Lewin, who wrote the introduction to the published book, "admitted" that it was all a hoax and that he had written it all by himself. Quite extraordinary, considering how much of what is in the report is coming to fruition today.


the out of print book in pdf format for download:
https://www.projectcamelot.org/Repor...n_Mountain.pdf


documentary: Iron Mountain - Blueprint To Tyranny
https://video.google.com/videoplay?d...68149177312936

[Braggi]

So, which one is the AntiChrist and where do I line up for my 666?

You know, I'm all for conspiracy theories, but at least let's stick with some real ones. There are plenty out there and most of them overlap, but "chemtrails?" And HAARP? I suppose Obama caused the China earthquake? I've heard it was HAARP that did it. Those proposing that don't begin to understand anything about laws of physics. Hint: it takes a lot of power to cause an earthquake.

So anyway, what is it about putting solar panels on our roofs that creates a One World Government? I have trouble seeing how buying a fuel efficient car promotes the downfall of US sovereignty. Please connect the dots for me.

-Jeff

[d-cat]

Environ-Mentalism: A New Religion for a New Age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYl4hkFRdTk

[Braggi]

Environ-Mentalism: A New Religion for a New Age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYl4hkFRdTk

OK, so I watched it. Would you care to discuss those points that are issues for you, personally?

-Jeff

PS. You'll be happy to know the statue of Gaia featured near the middle of that video was created by my good friend and chosen family member Oberon Zell-Ravenheart. You can find more of Oberon's work at https://mythicimages.com/.

You'll also be interested to know that my wife was the original model for that statue although there were five models in total. The pose, belly and breasts are her. That's my son Braggi in Her belly. I took the photo from which Oberon's original work was inspired.

It's always nice to see the Millennial Gaia featured in media.

[Lenny]

OK, so I watched it. Would you care to discuss those points that are issues for you, personally? -Jeff

Welllllllll, Jeff, it's kind of hard. That old notion of "Christianity" that is in our culture has us being 'compassionate' or looking favorably and worth saving ALL those folks that are 'useless eaters'. Contrary to Ted Turner, according to this film, that would mean not killing 95% of the population to allow the "top" 5% to live. The most progressive person I like told me that we should "let all those others" just starve or die without any intervention. Now that is very "evolutionary" but that is not how most people are brought up, at least around America. I know there are those that find those Christian notions hateful, and it was proven by Adolph that a well educated Christian nation could be turned rather quickly, so it proves to be "problematic" to the rest of us. Now if one's values are not in line with the Judeo-Christian notion that each life has value, then the only problem left is disposal. And to think that all in this film indicate that the "reason" for the elimination of most humans is simply a made up, faux, crisis. There is no such thing as eco-crisis and the cure is not the willfull destruction of man kind, or at least most of it.
It is not unreasonable that men would gather and plan things for others, nor is it unreasonable that wealthy, influenctial and powerful folks would do the same. And in so doing, denied freedoms that we take for granted, there is a problem. If they plan to reduce consumption, via "control" and manipulation of free markets to their planned ends, and heard us into some kind of "order" that is outside the individual's choice and contrary to their perceived well being, then there is suffering. Suffering is part of the human condition, but when done at the hands of another person, it is evil, unnecessary, and needs to be addressed towards elimination. If the suffering, as defined by the elite in this film, is not the human condition but humans themselves, then eliminating me, us, or all those around us, then it's time to GET BUSY.

[thewholetruth]

Like the man said, Jeff, "They are counting on your ignorance to succeed."

Nice of you to accomodate them so enthusiastically.

I know it's hard for Liberals to imagine that any of ThEiR ilk would be involved in the "One World" goal of ruling the world that has been a plan for quite some time, or perhaps it's the idealistic version of Communism that Liberals think will work "this time" which has them coming alongside these would-be World Rulers from both the Liberal and Conservative camps. The truth is that we ALL need to step up and stop these particular fools from their power hungry quest to rule the world, and right now the citizens of the USA can be pivotal to that end by refusing to elect the stooges (Obama, Clinton, McCain) that the Wannabe World Rulers keep offering up as our leaders.

Of course, they're smart enough to know that people are so stupid that as long as they pretend that it's "Us against Them" (Liberals against Conservatives) we'll be oblivious to what "they" are really doing right now on a global scale.

If you think mankind is inherrently good, you're lost. If you think Algore is a good man, you're lost. If you think Algore is any different than McCain, you're lost. If you think Obama would make a good president, you're hopelessly lost.

In his own words: From Dreams of My Father: "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites".

"I found solace in nursing a pevasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."

"It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

"I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I had paced all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcomlm, Dubois and Mandela."

And this is my favorite, from AUDACITY OF HOPE:
"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

Do you get that, Jeff? Do you hear the man's promises and understand what they mean? So here is the part about "them" knowing how stupid we are collectively: You will still vote for the man come November, despite knowing what a racist he is, and despite his promise that he will willingly open the doors to our enemies when "the political winds shift in an ugly direction", which, btw, they already have.

So, which one is the AntiChrist and where do I line up for my 666?

You know, I'm all for conspiracy theories, but at least let's stick with some real ones. There are plenty out there and most of them overlap, but "chemtrails?" And HAARP? I suppose Obama caused the China earthquake? I've heard it was HAARP that did it. Those proposing that don't begin to understand anything about laws of physics. Hint: it takes a lot of power to cause an earthquake.

So anyway, what is it about putting solar panels on our roofs that creates a One World Government? I have trouble seeing how buying a fuel efficient car promotes the downfall of US sovereignty. Please connect the dots for me.

-Jeff

[Braggi]

Like the man said, Jeff, "They are counting on your ignorance to succeed."
...

Don, I don't think you'd have any problem with a one world government as long as you got to design it. Thing is, a Christian one world government would look like the Inquisition and I'm against it. I don't relish the idea of having my family burned at the stake.

I still don't see how putting solar panels on our roofs makes us give up our national sovereignty. I also don't think that video paints a picture that is supported by facts. I also don't think a few lines taken out of context from a book paints an accurate picture of a man.

But you know all that.

-Jeff

[Lorrie]

Don? Who would you have as president, if you had a choice?
I am curious.

Like the man said, Jeff, "They are counting on your ignorance to succeed."

Nice of you to accomodate them so enthusiastically.

I know it's hard for Liberals to imagine that any of ThEiR ilk would be involved in the "One World" goal of ruling the world that has been a plan for quite some time, or perhaps it's the idealistic version of Communism that Liberals think will work "this time" which has them coming alongside these would-be World Rulers from both the Liberal and Conservative camps. The truth is that we ALL need to step up and stop these particular fools from their power hungry quest to rule the world, and right now the citizens of the USA can be pivotal to that end by refusing to elect the stooges (Obama, Clinton, McCain) that the Wannabe World Rulers keep offering up as our leaders.

Of course, they're smart enough to know that people are so stupid that as long as they pretend that it's "Us against Them" (Liberals against Conservatives) we'll be oblivious to what "they" are really doing right now on a global scale.

If you think mankind is inherrently good, you're lost. If you think Algore is a good man, you're lost. If you think Algore is any different than McCain, you're lost. If you think Obama would make a good president, you're hopelessly lost.

In his own words: From Dreams of My Father: "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites".

"I found solace in nursing a pevasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."

"It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

"I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I had paced all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcomlm, Dubois and Mandela."

And this is my favorite, from AUDACITY OF HOPE:
"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

Do you get that, Jeff? Do you hear the man's promises and understand what they mean? So here is the part about "them" knowing how stupid we are collectively: You will still vote for the man come November, despite knowing what a racist he is, and despite his promise that he will willingly open the doors to our enemies when "the political winds shift in an ugly direction", which, btw, they already have.

[Lorrie]

Specifically...

Don? Who would you have as president, if you had a choice?
I am curious.

[Lenny]

Don, I don't think you'd have any problem with a one world government as long as you got to design it. Thing is, a Christian one world government would look like the Inquisition and I'm against it. I don't relish the idea of having my family burned at the stake.

I like the quip of Ronald Reagan, "Communism works only in heaven, where they don't need it, and in hell where they already have it".
I pray that if Don were to think of setting up any one world government, I would have to go after him myself.
There is a four part series on The Inquisition on PBS. I'll have to find it at the store to watch. I've read too little about it, but from what I gather, it wasn't all that bad!!!! By that I mean that we have a knee-jerk reaction to those words, The Inquisition, and often come up with pictures of thousands being burned at the stake (yuch) monthly, but over the period of 300 years there were fewer than 3000. Now I know 10 a year is bad, but......At least that's what I read a while back, but I don't recall where to verify.
And Jeff, if they come after your family, well, you got friends, and we got your back....."from my cold, dead fingers.....".

I still don't see how putting solar panels on our roofs makes us give up our national sovereignty. I also don't think that video paints a picture that is supported by facts. I also don't think a few lines taken out of context from a book paints an accurate picture of a man.
But you know all that. -Jeff

Putting solar panels on a roof is what it means to be a Proud American, and supports our national sovereignty, or didn't you know that?
As for that video supporting the facts: stars/ backdrop:constellation.
It's all a matter of perspective.
And for that man, I fear that he may be a bad guy too (they all are) but I've enough faith in this system that it, and we, will survive him, though he will redefine "wealth" and "tax increase" and "government control" to the max!
And in the end we will be MORE dependent on the government and more things will work with the same sharpness as the DMV, public hospitals, the prison system, and about any other government agency that one may consider.
I guess my problem is that I believed the founders: the government is the evil enemy of freedom, and not a solution as FDR tried to make it.

[Braggi]

... There is a four part series on The Inquisition ... but over the period of 300 years there were fewer than 3000. ...

Wow. That's amazing Lenny. I wondered where you got those numbers and I found them. That's what Catholics are saying online. Funny how nobody else thinks that.

Here's what one Jewish source I found says (it's worth a read): https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...quisition.html

Note that the site is focused mainly on Jewish victims but mentions others. I think the real number of victims is in the 300,000 range at the very lowest estimate. In some cases entire villages were exterminated. Also remember the protestants had their own versions of prosecuting "heretics" with equally horrific results. I spent a little very uncomfortable time in a basement torture chamber in Germany that was used in those days. Those people who were "guests" there, presumably, were far less comfortable than I was. The machinery in that place ... was absolutely horrible. It's hard to believe we have people living today who think torture should be official US government policy. I would challenge them to spend an hour in that place and then see if they still feel the same way.

... And Jeff, if they come after your family, well, you got friends, and we got your back....."from my cold, dead fingers.....".

Lenny? Is that supposed to make me feel safer?

Well, there's way too much in this thread that deserves a response that I don't have time to respond to.

I'll leave you with this: I was in Copperfield's today and picked up a book. (I hate it when I do that!) I had to then read a few pages and now I have at home and I'm reading it. It's "The Rise of the Fourth Reich" by Jim Maars. A chilling read. Very sobering. It's the conspiracy book that supports conspiracy theories from both the Right and the Left. It features a lot of those names you've heard before. All those bankers, the CFR, the Nazis, the Russians and right up to good ol' G. W. Himself.

I'll say more another time about that.

-Jeff

PS. You're right. None of them are any good. That's why it's so important to choose the lesser of the evils.

[thewholetruth]

Specifically...

No question I would have voted for Ron Paul has his army stood firm. And you? And why?

[thewholetruth]

You're wrong about that, Jeff. I have no desire to rule the world, nor do I think it's a good idea that ANYONE have that job. Even if it started with a fair and wise king, there would be a successsor, who is human, thus the likelyhood of character flaws which translate into unnecessary suffering for others.

And what are you talking about "burning people at the stake", Jeff? LOL I see you've now VILLIFIED Christians. To even make a statement like that, you have to be pretty freaking deluded, Jeff. Waaaaaaaaaaay out there, dood.

And I am all for solar power for everything: cars, homes, business, recreation. We could do it. Man is standing in the way. That is, the love of MONEY is standing in the way in the form of those who are MAKING the money right now off of oil.

Don, I don't think you'd have any problem with a one world government as long as you got to design it. Thing is, a Christian one world government would look like the Inquisition and I'm against it. I don't relish the idea of having my family burned at the stake.

I still don't see how putting solar panels on our roofs makes us give up our national sovereignty. I also don't think that video paints a picture that is supported by facts. I also don't think a few lines taken out of context from a book paints an accurate picture of a man.

But you know all that.

-Jeff

[thewholetruth]

Jeff, why would you even refer to events which occurred HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO? Are they relevant to the actions of Christians today? Rhetorical question, Jeff. The answer is "no".

The reason Christian haters point to events like that is because they don't have anything current they can hold up to try to shame Christians. But bringing up the Inquisition is like chastizing GERMANS TODAY for what HITLER did 50 years ago. Sounds silly to imagine trying to shame your German neighbors in Sebastopol for what Hitler did in Germany, doesn't it?

You sound so much sillier, Jeff. It's comical. It really says "I don't have a rock to throw so I'm going to invent one because I hate Christians so much". Hatred makes otherwise intelligent individuals behave like fools, Jeff. Yours is a case in point.

No one alive today was involved in the Inquisitions, Jeff. No one is even murdering heretics today, Jeff. Thus, bringing this up is a moot point. You might as well just post "I hate Christians" because that's all your comment accomplishes here. It reveals your bigotry toward Christians.

Wow. That's amazing Lenny. I wondered where you got those numbers and I found them. That's what Catholics are saying online. Funny how nobody else thinks that.

Here's what one Jewish source I found says (it's worth a read): https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...quisition.html

Note that the site is focused mainly on Jewish victims but mentions others. I think the real number of victims is in the 300,000 range at the very lowest estimate. In some cases entire villages were exterminated. Also remember the protestants had their own versions of prosecuting "heretics" with equally horrific results. I spent a little very uncomfortable time in a basement torture chamber in Germany that was used in those days. Those people who were "guests" there, presumably, were far less comfortable than I was. The machinery in that place ... was absolutely horrible. It's hard to believe we have people living today who think torture should be official US government policy. I would challenge them to spend an hour in that place and then see if they still feel the same way.



Lenny? Is that supposed to make me feel safer?

Well, there's way too much in this thread that deserves a response that I don't have time to respond to.

I'll leave you with this: I was in Copperfield's today and picked up a book. (I hate it when I do that!) I had to then read a few pages and now I have at home and I'm reading it. It's "The Rise of the Fourth Reich" by Jim Maars. A chilling read. Very sobering. It's the conspiracy book that supports conspiracy theories from both the Right and the Left. It features a lot of those names you've heard before. All those bankers, the CFR, the Nazis, the Russians and right up to good ol' G. W. Himself.

I'll say more another time about that.

-Jeff

PS. You're right. None of them are any good. That's why it's so important to choose the lesser of the evils.

[handy]

George said it best. RIP.

"I love people, I hate groups.
People are smart, groups are stupid."
~ George Carlin

[MsTerry]

You sound so much sillier, Jeff. It's comical.

But Don, don't you remember that that is what pot will do to you?

[Braggi]

Jeff, why would you even refer to events which occurred HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO? Are they relevant to the actions of Christians today? Rhetorical question, Jeff. The answer is "no".
...

Yes. Relevant. We are torturing "heretics" (or are they Moslems) in the name of the "War on Terror" right now, which G. W. Himself called a "Crusade."

Relevant. The Christians, argue if you will, are about 99% of our politicians and about 95% of our military and police forces.

All we need is one more manufactured "emergency" and Bush and Co. could call for martial law. There's still time. That's why it is so important to begin impeachment proceedings. To keep Him busy. (But don't worry, it won't happen.)

Let us not forget the lessons of His-story.

-Jeff

[MsTerry]

And in the end we will be MORE dependent on the government and more things will work with the same sharpness as the DMV, public hospitals, the prison system, and about any other government agency that one may consider.

Lenny, I hope you never have to dial 911, because then you can find out how governed agencies work like the fire dept. the police or even the ambulance system work.
If my house is on fire can I call you instead? how long will it take you to get over here?

[thewholetruth]

Where I work, we have to call 911 every other week or so on average. They are ALWAYS right there right now. No one has ever died because Emergency services were late. Oh, some have died, but not because Emergency services are late.

Lenny, I hope you never have to dial 911, because then you can find out how governed agencies work like the fire dept. the police or even the ambulance system.
If my house is on fire can I call you instead? how long will it take you to get over here?

[thewholetruth]

Okaaaaaaay. *sarcastic look of unbelief*

You've got to be kidding, Jeff. Why don't you do a little reading on the Inquisitions before you make a fool of yourself by calling our occupation of Iraq that.

That's how far out there Liberals let themselves get, I suppose. That's how far out there y'all talk yourselves into.

Yes. Relevant. We are torturing "heretics" (or are they Moslems) in the name of the "War on Terror" right now, which G. W. Himself called a "Crusade."

Relevant. The Christians, argue if you will, are about 99% of our politicians and about 95% of our military and police forces.

All we need is one more manufactured "emergency" and Bush and Co. could call for martial law. There's still time. That's why it is so important to begin impeachment proceedings. To keep Him busy. (But don't worry, it won't happen.)

Let us not forget the lessons of His-story.

-Jeff

[Lenny]

Lenny, I hope you never have to dial 911, because then you can find out how governed agencies work like the fire dept. the police or even the ambulance system work.
If my house is on fire can I call you instead? how long will it take you to get over here?

Thanks goodness we live in a wealthy, semi-rural area where those calls are answered by three vehicles, fire, ambulance, and cops. Redundancy, thy name is government. Of course we've all heard the horror stories of calling 911 in larger metro areas and what gov't can't do, as well as folks calling for their cats, to find food, and other notions of "emergency".
As for responding to you, it would take me forever since SWMBO would want to know every detail prior to responding. Not that I wouldn't, but you'd be one crispy critter.

[Lorrie]

Why would you vote for someone that couldn't get his army to stay firm in an election?

If they did he would have had everything necessary to win the campaign.

Not as many were behind him...Why do you suppose that is?
Wait before you answer....

No question I would have voted for Ron Paul has his army stood firm. And you? And why?

[Lorrie]

No question I would have voted for Ron Paul has his army stood firm. And you? And why?

Nothing to read into here. I don't want to say.

[Lenny]

Wow. That's amazing Lenny. I wondered where you got those numbers and I found them. That's what Catholics are saying online. Funny how nobody else thinks that.
Here's what one Jewish source I found says (it's worth a read): https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...quisition.html
Note that the site is focused mainly on Jewish victims but mentions others. I think the real number of victims is in the 300,000 range at the very lowest estimate. In some cases entire villages were exterminated. Also remember the protestants had their own versions of prosecuting "heretics" with equally horrific results. I spent a little very uncomfortable time in a basement torture chamber in Germany that was used in those days. Those people who were "guests" there, presumably, were far less comfortable than I was. The machinery in that place ... was absolutely horrible. It's hard to believe we have people living today who think torture should be official US government policy. I would challenge them to spend an hour in that place and then see if they still feel the same way.

Well, those stats seem about right from that article; however that may be history with their twist as well. Those first Jews (13 of them) were burned for murder of a child. Who knows?
But it's almost an unfair to lay it out with Spain regarding the Inquisition as "religious tool for the church" in 1492 or so, as they just kicked the Moslems out finally after about 700 years, and rooting out all of that problem was a serious political concern, not religious though dressed and promulgated as a "religious" issue; it had as much to do about religion as US in this current situation with the same group!

Quote:
Lenny wrote:
... And Jeff, if they come after your family, well, you got friends, and we got your back....."from my cold, dead fingers.....".

Lenny? Is that supposed to make me feel safer?

Now, Jeff, you know others aren't responsible for how you feel!
But it is good to know that there are those out here that are willing to fight for what is a good cause: freedom from fear and tyrannical forces that roam the world.
Knowing how you feel about G.W., if he sent 'storm troopers' out here, would you lay down and be taken to a camp? Several would not.
I recall reading about a few guns in the middle of Warsaw during WWII and a number off brave souls holding off the great German army for over a month!

I'll leave you with this: I was in Copperfield's today and picked up a book. (I hate it when I do that!) I had to then read a few pages and now I have at home and I'm reading it. It's "The Rise of the Fourth Reich" by Jim Maars. A chilling read. Very sobering. It's the conspiracy book that supports conspiracy theories from both the Right and the Left. It features a lot of those names you've heard before. All those bankers, the CFR, the Nazis, the Russians and right up to good ol' G. W. Himself. I'll say more another time about that. -Jeff

PS. You're right. None of them are any good. That's why it's so important to choose the lesser of the evils.

Well, those books need not be read after the age of 25.
After NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY, there was no reason to continue, although I did enjoy something about SUPER RICH, THE 400 FAMILIES OF AMERICA AND HOW THEY CONTROL EVERYTHING, or some such sensible read. Great book. Entrenched they are, so I'm happy just living on the fringe of what's created by the powers that be.
Oh, and voting for the lesser of evils is still evil. Conundrum we are in!
This I've never voted for a "winner".

[Braggi]

Okaaaaaaay. *sarcastic look of unbelief* ...

Come on Don, I thought you were a True Believer. Aren't you on board with the Armageddonists, trying to push through to the Final Battle? Bush and Company are supposed to be on board with "them."

Read here: https://www.opednews.com/droubay_052204_armageddon.htm

... You've got to be kidding, Jeff. Why don't you do a little reading on the Inquisitions before you make a fool of yourself by calling our occupation of Iraq that. ...

I've done a little. It was a persecution of what "Christianity" at the time thought of as "other." Herbalists and midwives were popular targets. They were labeled "baby killers." Sound familiar, Don? Now we have the Failed War on Some Drugs and the forced birth crowd. Same battle. The Inquisition never ended. It just waxes and wanes.

Like all wars, it's just about stealing and controlling people and property and like the Inquisition, our invasion of Iraq is more about religion than anything else. Oh, and gold (black gold, in this case). If you don't believe religion is about gold,go to a searchable Bible and search on Gold. You'll like how soon the authors begin to talk about how good gold is.

Religion, as most people know, is a tool to control people and property, kind of like war. Interesting that one definition of "Pagan" is "civilian" as opposed to Christian; "soldiers for Christ."

Yup. It's the Inquisition.

...That's how far out there Liberals let themselves get, I suppose. That's how far out there y'all talk yourselves into.

Oh us Liberals (I like that capital "L"), we're just a laugh a minute, you should know that. We spend a lot of time talking ourselves into things.

By the way, Don. What does Liberal mean to you? Know the root of the word? Just curious. I know you're big on the meaning of words and you are "TheWholeTruth," so I'm interested in what you say.

-Jeff

[MsTerry]

Well, Lenny, that was my point.
The government seems tobeable to do something right considering how many people are being serviced.
I have no problem with DMV either.

Thanks goodness we live in a wealthy, semi-rural area where those calls are answered by three vehicles, fire, ambulance, and cops. Redundancy, thy name is government. Of course we've all heard the horror stories of calling 911 in larger metro areas and what gov't can't do, as well as folks calling for their cats, to find food, and other notions of "emergency".
As for responding to you, it would take me forever since SWMBO would want to know every detail prior to responding. Not that I wouldn't, but you'd be one crispy critter.

[thewholetruth]

Come on Don, I thought you were a True Believer. Aren't you on board with the Armageddonists, trying to push through to the Final Battle? Bush and Company are supposed to be on board with "them."

Read here: https://www.opednews.com/droubay_052204_armageddon.htm

I don't concern myself with Armageddon, Jeff. I'm more concerned with the hear and now. Life on this level is a full-time job, IMO. Tomorrow is God's business.

I've done a little. It was a persecution of what "Christianity" at the time thought of as "other." Herbalists and midwives were popular targets. They were labeled "baby killers." Sound familiar, Don? Now we have the Failed War on Some Drugs and the forced birth crowd. Same battle. The Inquisition never ended. It just waxes and wanes.

Like all wars, it's just about stealing and controlling people and property and like the Inquisition, our invasion of Iraq is more about religion than anything else. Oh, and gold (black gold, in this case). If you don't believe religion is about gold,go to a searchable Bible and search on Gold. You'll like how soon the authors begin to talk about how good gold is.

Religion, as most people know, is a tool to control people and property, kind of like war. Interesting that one definition of "Pagan" is "civilian" as opposed to Christian; "soldiers for Christ."

Yup. It's the Inquisition.

The Liberal community is full of Conspiracy Theorists, Jeff, busy trying to connect the dots. I don't subscribe. I look for the Lord's fingerprints, which I see all day every day, evidence of what He is up to. I don't try to outguess Him like y'all try to do. It's not the Inquisition, Jeff. That's absurd.

Oh us Liberals (I like that capital "L"), we're just a laugh a minute, you should know that. We spend a lot of time talking ourselves into things.

Amen, Jeff. I agree completely. I see that. I lived that for 36 years, so I'm familiar with Liberalism and Liberal thinking. The capital "L", btw, is because I'm not talking about one's thinking or POV. I'm talking about those individuals who embrace the religion of Liberalism, in which Liberalism is worshipped and logic, reason and the truth are ignored.

By the way, Don. What does Liberal mean to you? Know the root of the word? Just curious.

What Liberal means today is very different than what it meant even 40 years ago or 2000 years ago, thank you very little human nature. Extremely affected by major societal dysfunction today, codependence and selfishness steer the Liberals of today's world. Not so 40 years ago or 2000 years ago. Today's version of Liberalism is a very bastardized, practically indistinguishable version compared to the Liberal views of yesteryear. After 50 years and two or three generations of folks believing mantras like "If it feels good do it", "Looking out for number one" and the ridiculous "my truth/your truth" b.s., I view Liberalism today as invalid, illogical, self driven, dangerous and having nothing to do with love, right and wrong, open-mindedness, tolerance, all of which are out the door when it comes to Liberals dealing with Christians and Christianity. Of course, when I identified myself as Liberal, Christian hating wasn't part of it. Discriminating against whites and Christians wasn't part of it. Codepending homosexuality wasn't part of it, either. Homosexuality was acknowledged as the annomaly that it is. Liberals weren't supporting racism like they do now (supporting "Miss Black America" pagents and events created solely for black people and "The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People" for example, when Liberals would NEVER tolerate a National Association for the advancement of White People. That's called "Racism", and Liberals today support it.)

Liberalism is a reflection of social sickness today, in large part, making homosexuals their darlings, ignoring THE truth in favor of calling everyone's OPINIONS "my truth" and "your truth", blind and oblivious to the fact that the word "truth" means something. It's gotten way out there, Jeff, and today's version of Liberalism is a major part of the problem in America today.

Fortunately, the very vocal left are extremists and nut cases and thus this version of Liberalism folks embrace today can't get a real foothold, because most people have more common sense than to support racism and discrimination against whites and Christians like y'all do today.

But all of this said, the battle is not between you and me, Jeff. It is not a battle of flesh and blood. It is truly spiritual warfare taking place and those spiritually undeveloped cannot see it going on, thus they're deluded into thinking they are the center of the Universe, when the truth is that our Creator created us and everything on the planet, we haven't the power to do anything REMOTELY similar, and we're not the center of anything, other than we're SELF-centered, which isn't the same thing at all as being the center of the Universe. It's unhealthy, this self-centeredness, and Liberalism is all about worshipping Self today.

Probably more than you expected, but I'm sure I provided plenty of ammunition for you to vilify me and attack me with.

I know you're big on the meaning of words and you are "TheWholeTruth," so I'm interested in what you say.

I'm not sure that's sincere, Jeff, but I appreciate you saying it the way you did.

[MsTerry]

the truth is that our Creator created us and everything on the planet,

How come the Creator put those darn Christian hating, Co-depending Homosexual Loving, Rascist, invalid, illogical, self driven, dangerous and having nothing to do with love, right and wrong, open-mindedness, tolerance, Liberals on this planet?

[Lenny]

Why would you vote for someone that couldn't get his army to stay firm in an election? If they did he would have had everything necessary to win the campaign.

Herding cats!
Lorrie, I find no group more "diverse" and opinionated as Libertarians. That group marries strange bedfellows for sure, so not standing together is what they do best! The fact that we got this far is amazing to many.

Not as many were behind him...Why do you suppose that is? Wait before you answer....

Wait for what before answered? The shouting will make the deaf quake.
Do you want "the abortion" answer? Or the "Israel" answer? Or the "gold" answer? How about the "marriage" answer? I mean more than most can we decide on how to disagree.
What a country!