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 Santa Rosa downtown businesses grapple with challenges to stay afloat cw707
 Local Coastal Plan Update being pushed through by County, action needed O.W.
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Re: Santa Rosa downtown businesses grapple with challenges to stay afloat
From: patnicholson  Supporting Member   Posted: December 10, 2019, 5:29 pm
Free parking, 2 hrs.which all those other towns have.
Get someone besides first graders w/crayons to design traffic flow.
encourage daily usage , commerce, of the dwtwn. plaza.
use stop signs and people to control traffic besides traffic lights
sanctioned camping for homeless. Hldsbg, pet. ,Sebastopol don't have homeless in their dwntwns?

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Re: Santa Rosa downtown businesses grapple with challenges to stay afloat
From: american dream  Supporting Member  
Posted: December 10, 2019, 7:20 pm
-also the unpopular, ugly, expensive mess made of Courthouse Square, which has made driving in downtown Santa Rosa more arduous.

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Santa Rosa's downtown merchants are struggling. Is it because of too many banks downtown, or not enough housing? What can keep Santa Rosa's downtown busting in the age of Amazon?

Barry


Santa Rosa downtown businesses grapple with challenges to stay afloat
MARTIN ESPINOZA
THE PRESS DEMOCRAT December 6, 2019, 9:07PM

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Because the businesses hated the homeless people who hung out in the park they got the council to destroy a treasured art work, took out trees that were long standing and turned a beautiful park space into a cold and sterile and unfriendly space all the while extolling how wonderful it would be.

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-also the unpopular, ugly, expensive mess made of Courthouse Square, which has made driving in downtown Santa Rosa more arduous.

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Re: Santa Rosa downtown businesses grapple with challenges to stay afloat
From: american dream  Supporting Member  
Posted: December 10, 2019, 9:01 pm
That Courthouse Square nightmare took longer and cost more than projected. I went to three meetings about it (open to the public only after word had leaked out that they were planning this). Everyone who spoke up was against it. The developer posted three post-its on the blackboard, each with a different approach. Someone in the room then posted a fourth post-it, which read: 'none of the above;. That roomful of people lined up to each add her or his name to that fourth option. Made no difference.

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I stopped shopping downtown Santa Rosa (5th Street area) when I got a parking ticket 5 years ago. I parked on the street, close to the business instead of the garage, because it was pouring down rain.
Also, I would love to go to my favorite Thai restaurant on 4th Street in Railroad Square more frequently, but haven't been in over a year. I often choose not to because of parking costs, if I can find parking at the time I am there. The plus side is that it saves me $: no meter cost, no need to splurge on that wonderful Thai food...
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I haven't been to downtown S.R. in many years. Why? Because of the inconvenience and the parking situation. ...
We have to show up Saturday and let the county know this draft is unacceptable for the following reasons:
WHY YOU NEED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE REVISION
OF THE DRAFT LOCAL COASTAL PLAN (LCP)
In the current version ofthe Draft Local Coastal Plan proposed by the Sonoma County Permit and ResourceManagement Department (Permit Sonoma), did you know
that . . .
Endangered Species Habitat Area (ESHA) zones have been reduced from the originalthree to only one;
Marine Protection Areas (MPA) have been entirely eliminated;
the current draft LCP makes no provision to prevent Bodega Bay from serving asan incoming shale oil port and transfer nexus for Bay Area fossil fuel refineries;
Tourism — and related impacts, already beyond ecological andinfrastructural carrying capacities — is actively promoted through permittingof new roads, non-permanent residential housing, and other commercial enterprisesthat will further strain overburdened local facilities and environments;
With vacation rentals already comprising 53% of coastal zone housing, PermitSonoma is planning and promoting additional residences for this purpose, whilelocal residents and employees cannot find or afford housing;
References to studies and other scientific data are outdated (to 2005-2008),especially in light of the ready availability of more recent scientific andsocial data that MUST inform this process;
Permit Sonoma has not consulted or requested participation from publicagencies, such as the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)and the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS), local non-profits and landmanagers (e.g., the University of California, The Wildlands Conservancy, SonomaLand Trust), and other agencies, academic institutions, and organizations thathave conducted highly relevant research on climate change, impacts on coastalecology and wildlife, effects of climate and oceanic process on marine biology,et al.;
Once approved by Permit Sonoma and the County Board of Supervisors, changes tozoning designations will not subject to appeals to the California CoastalCommission;
The current Draft LCP usurps authority for “discretionary” permitting, whichbypasses public notice of and participation in review of such permitting (underthe California Environmental Quality Act and other regulatory standards);
While the Sonoma County Board of Supervisors retains legal authority to review timberharvest plans and otherwise regulate timber extraction in the county, the DraftLCP defers local authority to the California Department of Forestry and FireProtection through a streamlined permitting process (the Timber Regulation andForest Restoration Program) that over-rides many of the environmentalsafeguards in the California Environmental Quality Act?
If you answer “No” aboutany of these proposals and their provisions or lack thereof, please considerthat your participation is critical towards creating a truly democraticresponse to poor planning. These are but a few of the many oversights,omissions, and inconsistencies in the current Draft LCP — a policy documentthat, in its current content, is egregiously inadequate and misinformed towardsproviding for the essentials of a healthy coastal environment and its humancommunity, that is, all of us! This is not so much a planning document asa rubber stamp of approval for further development, exploitation and thecontinuing deterioration of the coastal environment.

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Do you support tourism and tasting rooms on the Sonoma Coast?
The next public meeting for the new Local Coastal plan is THIS SATURDAY, December 14 10 am-12 pm at the Bodega Bay Fire Station, 510 State Hwy 1, Bodega Bay.
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Spiritual: 12-12-12 Cosmic Gateway - Transformational Light & Sound Journey
From: Alchemical Sounds  Supporting Member  
Posted: December 10, 2019, 9:53 pm


When
Thursday, December 12th; 7:15 am - 9:30 am
Where Lomitas Center 2421 Lomitas Avenue in Santa Rosa
Cost $22 to $55
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12-12-12 Cosmic Gateway
Transformational Light & Sound Journey


On December 12th, a Cosmic Gateway opens between 12:12 and 12:21. This year is a '12' year (add 2019) that blesses us with an amplified 12:12:12 Gateway. 12:12is the day the cosmic portal opens throughout the galaxy for access to higher dimensional realms of consciousness and the activation of divine human crystalline 12 strands of DNA.

When the gateway opens, your bioelectric field attunes to the ascension codes embedded in the light infusion. As the 38" Paiste Sun Gong transports you to the Galactic Center, you are paving the pathway home to Creator.

Patricia will play a set of 9 Solfeggio Tuning Fork frequencies in an ascending order before we start the journey. This creates a sacred spiral that seems to encode itself as a matrix upon a cellular structure, and particularly on the DNA.


Hans Cousto says, "The Paiste Sun Gong opens the door from world to another". Other instrumental allies include chimes, drums, rainstick, Heart crystal bowl, tuning forks, Peruvian whistling vessel and intuitive
voice.

Bring a mat or pad for lying on the floor, pillow, blanket, eye cover and water in a closed container. You may want to charge a crystal or sacred piece in these transformational energies.

Patricia Everitt is a sound healing ceremonialist, and shamanic practitioner. www.alchemicalsounds.net


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Community: Re: Grange Holiday Party
From: Shepherd  Supporting Member  
Posted: December 11, 2019, 3:27 pm
When:  Tuesday, December 17th; 6:00 pm - 9:00 pm
Location: Sebastopol Grange, 6000 Sebastopol Ave., Sebastopol
The Grange parties tend to be a lot of fun. Please consider joining us.

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Potluck, music, and real good company!

Music by the Sebtown Strutters, playing Dixieland, other jazz and some popular music including holiday tunes.

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Re: Medicare for All is a losing general election position!
From: podfish  Supporting Member  
Posted: December 10, 2019, 5:41 pm
Quote kburgess wrote: View Post
and I suppose that you are endorsing socialism?...
and your believing it doesn't make it any more true.

sure, I, along with JC and others, endorse socialism. It's kind of odd that you think it's not a sustainable system, but simultaneously imagine an "un-shackled society where truth and human value were the basis...". Yeah, that's hard-nosed realism, much more plausible than being able to, say, build on the style of socialism that the Euros have been experimenting with. The governments of the world through history have incorporated more or less socialism, just as they have more or less democracy, with varying levels of success. There have been promising results for both, certainly both trends should continue while learning from the failures.

Your world-view is revealed again (i'd forgotten) by the invocation of the cabal that is apparently the real reason we can't have nice things. I guess if they weren't there, we'd be living in the land of milk & honey? Seems to me that instead, the problem is with human nature; capitalism, especially crony capitalism, leads to the rise of what look like cabals just as much as socialism can. Centralizing power is the problem. Democracy is one attempt at limiting that, and socialism, if it's implemented in a way that maximizes everyone's power, actually helps maintain equality. It's more in the nature of capitalism to allow for the rise of an uber-class and a race to the bottom for the rest. Uber (the company, not the class), which some tout as a sign of the miracle of a free economy, actually is a better example for my argument. Cabbies were solidly middle-class, while Uberists are fighting to stay there.
Re: Medicare for All is a losing general election position!
From: podfish  Supporting Member  
Posted: December 10, 2019, 5:56 pm
Quote cyberanvil wrote: View Post
Not following you. With a fixed income of $70K, more taxes mean less discretionary income.
all else being equal, sure. But you're talking about a Swede making $70K, paying $40K in taxes. Sounds high, but whatever. Still, he pays rent, food, etc. and then sits outside watching the northern lights while drinking up whatever pittance he has left over. After paying his bills, how much did he have left to buy beer for himself and his friends?

while here, I take my $70K and pay taxes, health insurance, rent - and maybe I pay higher rent so I don't have to live near people in their tents, car and gas costs since there's no public transit, car repairs due to the beat-up roads, and then sit outside watching the whales at Bodega head. Which of us can buy more beer? ok, our beer's probably better so we have to account for volume vs. quality, but the principle stands.

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Re: Medicare for All is a losing general election position!
From: pbrinton     
Posted: December 11, 2019, 3:54 am
You are correct, you are not following him. Discretionary income is what is left over after you pay taxes and other necessary expenses. If some of the taxation pays for things that you would otherwise have to pay more for yourself (for instance if an extra $500 a month on your taxes saves you $1,000 in health insurance premiums) you can indeed have more discretionary money along with higher taxes. Plus you may well have a better standard of living too.

Patrick Brinton

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Not following you. With a fixed income of $70K, more taxes mean less discretionary income.

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Re: Medicare for All is a losing general election position!
From: pbrinton     
Posted: December 11, 2019, 4:39 am
I do not think it is useful to talk about "isms", especially when we do not have anything approaching agreement on how they are defined. Also, while I support your general position, I see the history that has brought us here somewhat differently. For the entire 10,000 years or so of the feudal system, with the exception of a brief period in Greece and a similar period in Rome, the (so called civilized) world was run entirely by autocratic monarchies, with not a trace of socialism. Even Greece and Rome were democratic, not socialist. It was not until the Enlightenment and the Industrial Revolution that governments were instituted from scratch with the people (as opposed to already existing power structures) in mind, first here in the US and then in France. Most of the western democracies followed their lead not through revolution as much as deterioration of the old power structures. A fair degree of socialism came along for the ride, but the very first (and so far only) true socialist system was ironically imposed by dictatorial decree by Castro in Cuba. All of these with varying degrees of success. This is a broad and sweeping summary, and I am sure minor counter examples can be found, but the fact is that it is incredibly rare for government systems to be invented. They have been instead imposed from above by those in power wishing to consolidate their power.

Technological advances, particularly in communications, give us the opportunity to do it differently going forward. We can think about how we want things to be. But we have come to agreement on what principles we want our society to embody. I would suggest we start with equality of opportunity (not equality of result), and a floor below which nobody can fall. Nobody should get seconds until everyone has had firsts. In other words (if you must put it in terms of "isms") socialism for necessities and capitalism for luxuries.

Patrick Brinton

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and your believing it doesn't make it any more true....

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Re: Medicare for All is a losing general election position!
From: kburgess     
Posted: December 11, 2019, 6:48 am
Quote podfish wrote: View Post
and your believing it doesn't make it any more true.sure, ....
I understand that the cabal idea can be a bit tough to swallow, but there are a lot of folks who have done some pretty extensive research on the matter and one of the best is Anna Von Rietz.This is a quick article on her site with over 2000 other articles that might help to clarify things.Take a look at the rest of her site for a wealth of good information and simple solutions.Thanks, Ken.http://annavonreitz.com/factsfirmlyinmind.pdf
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Re: Poem for the day from Larry Robinson
From: Larry Robinson  WaccoBB Poet Laureate  
Posted: December 11, 2019, 4:02 pm
Writing To Iraq


It would
take them
no trouble
to approve
your next
hour
by seconds
and minutes


with a
rag tied
over
your eyes


The next
morning
could be
put into
a rubber
hose


and used
to beat
you


When you
march
in the streets
together


when you
ask them
to give
you back
your country


And then
many
are shot /
killed
and wounded
around you


They tell you
there is
still time
to turn back
into history


But instead you
keep moving


And the streets
under your
sky
continue to
gather


to swell
with even
more voices


All pain
can be
doubled


But you
see a way
to welcome
another future
into your
hands


And that
keeps you moving forward




- Beau Beausoleil

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