alone again...

[mykil]

Alone again! I truly have never been alone before. I alwayz have had someone to hang with or a live in roommate or kidz to keep me amused. What shall I manifest this time around? Shall I try and see how far I can make it on my own? BORING! Hmmmmm what will she look like? What style of clothing shall she wear? Will she be short or tall? Will she wander very far? Will she be just what I need, not another learning experience I alwayz seem to seed? How will I know? I am pretty sure the evolution will provide and of course you all know I don’t even care as long as it is good energy for all concerned!

Finding a lover or lovers has never been a difficult task for me. AS a matter of fact I have just alwayz taken it for granted and never paid much attention to my own needs. What do I truly desired in a companion? I do have an idea, just not sure if it is real or will hold true to my way of thinking, presuming she even exists to begin with! True love may be hard to find because we are all caught up in our own little worlds and never truly imagining what we really need, want, or desire. I have a list! Manifesting a truly amazing woman that fits the bill probably will be easier said than done for me. I am not truly a fanatic that has to have things just so. Just my own way!!!

Are there things that I find in a woman that truly are turn-ons to me? There really are not limits to this question. The amazing task at hand is she must be free enough to understand that I love to flirt and will flirt with everyone at any given moment in time soooo… As long as she may understand I am hers and she is mine who cares who we flirt with? I have a few friends that are in need on occasion and drop in to see me just for cheering up purposes and to leave with a smile. Just friends yet friends I have no intentions on giving up or turning my back on! My most recent encounter was something along the lines of “Mykil, you may only date poly bi woman from now on” Now I would never hold anyone to those terms or conditions but you might get better meaning of my friends!

Things that need to be addressed? If I have to use my own made up words, such as Hyper- critical, dinglehopper, or a large number of others describing you more than once a week it probably won’t work out!

If you are afraid to be seen with me in public, get lost, if I am afraid to be seen with you in a public place, forgive me! I will work on my ethics, still it won’t work!

I tend to fall in head over heels and am really into the person I am pursuing, I love to be in deep when it comes to romance, so if you are not into me as much as I am into you. Then no, it won’t work for more than a quick fling!

I am extremely good at what I do so just be warned if you are not good you will soon be… Don’t be scared…

Although I am all around and everywhere all at once I am an extremely private person in my own home. I am betting not more than one or two of you actually know where I live, I like it this way. My home is a sacred sanctuary and will remain this way!
I know that I will probably never find what I am looking for here on Wacco, most of you that read this will already know what and whom I really am, just a little manifesto to start my new found freedom, and work on getting myself up to speed to start over and on with this life and into the next! Day to day living in the moment. Not really thinking too much about what will be next more on the lines of just living, breathing and really being in the moment!

Oh ya and I am really cute! PEACE!

Oh and if you need any more info MzT. Or any other number of people around this joint will be sure to chime in and give all kinds of free advice for dating the Myk…

[shellebelle]

Hehehehe Your home is a sacred sanctuary - now! I am going to hold you to this!!!!

And yes Poly women! I am so sick of the cheating on both sides! BAD Karma! And women, please, whose husbands/spouses/lovers KNOW they are poly!!! Not that the ones whose spouses don't know aren't nice women but honesty is really a nice energy!

I have a few friends that are in need on occasion and drop in to see me just for cheering up purposes and to leave with a smile. Just friends yet friends I have no intentions on giving up or turning my back on! My most recent encounter was something along the lines of “Mykil, you may only date poly bi woman from now on” Now I would never hold anyone to those terms or conditions but you might get better meaning of my friends!

My home is a sacred sanctuary and will remain this way!

[MsTerry]

LMAO
you THINK you're going to be alone?
You just got a grand child,
It won't be long before the figure out the free babysitter is in Forestville.

[Tinque]

Mykil.. One thing is you are not alone.. You have a new grandbaby and alot of REAL friends, like me , whom adore you ! I hope that you know how much I appreciate you , your cander , your , YOU ! Maybe it is time to just ENJOY you for a while ! I will help ...

[nurturetruth]

Msterry is onto something i think mykil regarding the baby sitting job.


And as you probably already know... many women get 'soft' and are attracted to a guy holding a cute baby.

When these women find out you are not the father but baby sittin' and being grandpops... they might even get your number !!!

The only other young good lookin' "grandfather" i have met besides you is my grandfather...

LMAO
you THINK you're going to be alone?
You just got a grand child,
It won't be long before the figure out the free babysitter is in Forestville.

[Lorrie]

I think this is very interesting Mykil...

IMHO:I think you think too much from the man's phyche.

You would do well to do some serious investigation into a woman's phyche... you know put yourself in their place...try to understand how we think.

Here is a good site: www.askmen.com

I think that if you did, you would find that most normal women do not think like that.

And I wanna wish you a whole lotta luck finding one...

[mykil]

Oh come on now Lushous Lorrie! You know I may act all like I know everything and am really full of myself, but that just scares the hell out of me. Soemthings are best left to the imagination my lady!!! LMAO!!!

I think this is very interesting Mykil...

IMHO:I think you think too much from the man's phyche.

You would do well to do some serious investigation into a woman's phyche... you know put yourself in their place...try to understand how we think.

Here is a good site: www.askmen.com

I think that if you did, you would find that most normal women do not think like that.

And I wanna wish you a whole lotta luck finding one...

[shellebelle]

Ummm Can you help me understand what you are saying?

I don't know if I guessed correctly and I am guessing here but I must go on, LOL!

I don't think Mykil is looking for anything unreasonable. He wants someone who understands him and can mesh in his life and him into hers while still maintaining independence and sense of self while being totally accepting of being loved and loving.

I love his psyche and I don't find it typical or overly male in many ways.

I think this is very interesting Mykil...

IMHO:I think you think too much from the man's phyche.

You would do well to do some serious investigation into a woman's phyche... you know put yourself in their place...try to understand how we think.

Here is a good site: www.askmen.com

I think that if you did, you would find that most normal women do not think like that.

And I wanna wish you a whole lotta luck finding one...

[Sylph]

I don't think Mykil is looking for anything unreasonable. He wants someone who understands him and can mesh in his life and him into hers while still maintaining independence and sense of self while being totally accepting of being loved and loving.

Is this accurate Mykil? You want a special lover/partner/soulmate to spend most of your time with and really commit to. You also want the freedom to 'date' many women, whenever the opportunity presents itself. (Correct me if I'm misreading you!) As Lorrie says, good luck with that! Most of us women want a monogamous love relationship, don't we? How does that whole 'poly' thing work for people? Sexual jealousy is hardwired into us, even if we want to be 'open minded'. Open relationships are fraught with disaster, I would imagine, with hearts being broken and people getting really angry!

[shellebelle]

I am not hardwired to jealousy. Treat my men with respect and I share them beyond willingly! Hell - I promote them!

I haven't had my heart broken yet and in fact it's great.

Might read "The Ethical Slut" and get a feel for it.

Not everyone can "do" poly it's true. But if it's prorgammed into it's great.

I guess I would ask

Is cheating healthy? Cause I think that Mykil has been in many monogamous relationships and never stopped flirting and never been monogamous either. So why not be open and honest. Why build a relationship on lies when you know you can't live within the other persons boundaries and will cheat? Seems honesty first even if it takes longer to find a woman. I have many men avoid the needy ones and you'll not have too many problems. But that's true in dating too.

Is this accurate Mykil? You want a special lover/partner/soulmate to spend most of your time with and really commit to. You also want the freedom to 'date' many women, whenever the opportunity presents itself. (Correct me if I'm misreading you!) As Lorrie says, good luck with that! Most of us women want a monogamous love relationship, don't we? How does that whole 'poly' thing work for people? Sexual jealousy is hardwired into us, even if we want to be 'open minded'. Open relationships are fraught with disaster, I would imagine, with hearts being broken and people getting really angry!

[Sylph]

Shelley, I respect you for being honest and believe that you can make it work for you and your partner/s. I just think that if I was single and a guy came along (even a 'really cute guy') and said he really loved me but was up-front and said that I wasn't going to be the only one...it would be a big turn-off! A woman has to be very secure with herself to be OK with that, a guy, too. Frankly, I think you are one in a million, but I don't have the stats on that.

[shellebelle]

Thank you!

I don't think I am one in a million since I knwo many other woman just as secure. And I am sure you are right in that the couple must be secure.

I just also think his honesty is best. It feels really ugly when one isn't honest about ones truth. I love that he's honest. I know where Mykil stands. Then I get to make choices based on my truth and with full knowledge of his. No cheating or dishonesty. I appreciate that. On the other hand when he tells me the rules of other people then expects me to play uhhhhh "no". LOL Not my game, not my rules, I don't want to play! What fun is playing a game you have to cheat to win at? Why not change the rules! LOL!

Shelley, I respect you for being honest and believe that you can make it work for you and your partner/s. I just think that if I was single and a guy came along (even a 'really cute guy') and said he really loved me but was up-front and said that I wasn't going to be the only one...it would be a big turn-off! A woman has to be very secure with herself to be OK with that, a guy, too. Frankly, I think you are one in a million, but I don't have the stats on that.

[Tinque]

I personally think that we are all , all alone , and that if we embrace that and nurture ourselves, then we will have stregnth for others. We can all feel lonely, with or without a partner. I am thinking our goal should be, one huge embrace from everyone ,at anytime, anywhere.. We all cry and all get angry and all feel intense love at times.. We are HUMAN.. I personally wish I was a cat.. I could curl up in ones lap , be fed , loved unconditionally, petted, stroked , brushed , and talked to with complete admiration.. I would definetely be purring !

[mykil]

Well all being said and done, I myself have not had to much control over what will happen in my love life or my maturity or personal growth. Like I have stated, I tend to fall in love head over heels and really am pathetic when it comes to these particular terms. Now if I fall for someone and she falls for me in the same light, head over heels, [boy id like to see that], then all bets are off! Plain and simple! I will abide by some sort of boundaries to make her feels she is the only one. If after time there develops some sort of miss communication or new reposition, than I will feel obligated to move on or find love elsewhere. Truly I just want to date and take my time and really have a little fun. Untrue to popular belief, I was monogamous for over six months with my lovely Amy. I had went out before with her permission when she was busy with other venues, and after when I new it was over. But when she was her with me we were a couple. I was faithful, with the exception of hugging kissing and really turning a few women on, I was truly faithful. It did not last long I will give it that, but that was not my doing and I tried my hardest to stand by this woman! I can do it when I want to! I am just not sure if I truly am up for that challenge any time soon. I do like the idea of dating a poly woman for sure and would love to find someone that shares in my true flirtatious wayz with the same desires as I have this goes without saying, but truly the heart is an amazing realm and it is the hardest for me to control. Others have no problem telling their heart were to fall or whom to fall in heart with, but for me it is like a pleasure dome that needs attention 24/7 and there is not allot I can do to stop the little sucker from wanting to connect with a wondrous women or two or three or… morning vent!

[wunda]

My question is:

Is polyamory viewed as some sort of enlightened state of romance or is it an excuse to sleep around?

On the one hand, it seems sort of like an idealized hedonism, and that definitely has its points

But I wunda, how is the intimacy? not the sex. The time where you lay in one another's arms and look deeply into one another's eyes. Where exchanging that deep knowing of desire, pleasure, need, promise and understanding is done... How is that done with more than one person?

For me, I choose not separate carnal pleasure from my emotions. There are wonderful delicious strings for the one i choose to be intimate with (when i do) and there should be for him as well. I am lousy at the FWB thing anyhow. Is this the way the world of intimacy is headed?

Mykil are you responsible for this? LOL I do love reading this thread!

[shellebelle]

Depends on the person I am with honestly.

I am "body fluid bonded" to two men. For me everything about those encounters tends to be powerful and in one case a true "merge" the other has moved from long standing lovers to friends with benefits but unbonding doesn't feel good so we remain bonded.

Others are not so much of a merge but on the other hand I have one lover who talking and cuddling, snuggling is the relationship. It is emotionally amazing and warm. It is not about sex but about each other.

I love spending time talking, embraced, emotional vulnerable. I have to admit though I am learning I can't do that with every lover.

My question is:

Is polyamory viewed as some sort of enlightened state of romance or is it an excuse to sleep around?

On the one hand, it seems sort of like an idealized hedonism, and that definitely has its points

But I wunda, how is the intimacy? not the sex. The time where you lay in one another's arms and look deeply into one another's eyes. Where exchanging that deep knowing of desire, pleasure, need, promise and understanding is done... How is that done with more than one person?

For me, I choose not separate carnal pleasure from my emotions. There are wonderful delicious strings for the one i choose to be intimate with (when i do) and there should be for him as well. I am lousy at the FWB thing anyhow. Is this the way the world of intimacy is headed?

Mykil are you responsible for this? LOL I do love reading this thread!

[mykil]

Last night I pulled out my oils, placed my home made redwood easel next to my computer in my living room facing my TV, now I can see all three, so as to start a wondrous winter all by my lonesome, in my cave, on a hill, in the trees, in the woods. Sitting painting next to a warm fire does it for me. I went into the closet and pulled out my trunk and found all my brushes, I have many, a hundred atleast, these have been sitting in seclusion with no one to forward there beauty upon a canvas in years. I have been neglecting my duties as an artist to these little brushes knowing someday soon I would, still the time never seemed right with children under foot running about and never having a moment of peace to myself. This is what I think I am after for a while! Will I get it? Who knows, I am content in my life as of now. I am alwayz content though, so what is the difference? Is there a difference? Not really, I am connected at the hip with the conscience community at hand every step of my life and this is important to me. I am transparent to you all, yet my own evolution is a little elusive even to me! I am thinking it is good things I have do not put much stock into worrying to the extent that some seem to! I am really in no hurry to find a soul mate or a new live in roommate this is for sure. Dating and entertaining a few friends now and again seems appealing to me. Till one day someone with such a strong need will appear with her heart on her sleeve and I will not be able to stop my soul from trying to evolve her and give her the support she needs, all along knowing I will br4ak her heart, and mine. IT will only be a matter of time… This is my pattern and I know it will. Should I evolve and try the poly routine that some many adhere to? Should I stop myself from saving the next poor soul that walks into my life and has the over powering sensation that has the need that can stop a train? Hmmm only time will tell. In the mean time I will just go on with my life and do what I do best. Maybe paint a picture of a broken heart or of all of us combined as one soul in need of our own … ~P~E~A~C~E~ … ;-{

[Lorrie]

Well, I can only speak for myself (I guess) but I also can assume I speak for alot of women that are like me. Upon discussions with them and information from the internet and dr phil...

Women are looking for one particular man to devote to; that in her opinion will supply the best seed for offspring, and are wired to be with only that person.

A man is wired to get as many offspring out there as possible in their life times. So the population endures.

Only when a man is absolutely attracted to a woman, will he stay with her.

Least that is MHO, not no phd or ba (or anything else that I should have gotten) here.

Shellbelle, no offense, but I don't get you either...
You and mykil are very definately very different to me in my norm...so to speak.So I suppose you two could understand each other.

And I definately think that everyone is allowed to be who they are and believe what they believe. I am very tolerant that way... Doesn't mean I believe their way. Just believe they believe it...

The way I grew up...
My mom was a waitress and my dad was a mechanic, My dad was the BOSS, and my mom was the mother, cook, laundress, and whatever else kept the unit together. I have two brothers one older and one younger (I was a tomboy) and we lived on a farm. Watched all the "All American Shows of the 60/70/80's" Had meat and potatoes for dinner. And bbq parties with close relatives and friends. Fed the cows, pigs, chickens and dogs...
All in Santa Rosa, CA when all those houses on Peterson lane weren't there...as a matter of fact that is where my long(10acres) dirt driveway to my house was.
I was 10 when they built the houses and we moved to the "city" over on the north side of the freeway by the fairgrounds.

I grew up law: you find a man get married and have children. (That never played out for me, but I don't care)

There never was talk about women with women and men with men and women with more than one man and men with more than one woman while with a particular woman... you know? Although there were stories of married friends' affairs...

Mykil wants a woman to devote to him and he to her while he is flirting an covorting with other women, and he wants the woman to not care. I say good luck with that because Sylph and I and alot of my girlfriends know that is not how women in general think.

You are not a general woman Shelley...You are evolutionated! I guess.

And with the way most of my friends and I go, I wouldn't do it. I know alot of them wouldn't either. They want a man to put every bit of themselves into the relationship as they are. They want a man to help them feel special and be the only one to love. Like its supposed to be. It is hard to be made to feel special if the man is paying attention to a bunch of other women. That will usually just make them feel like the rest...And if the man did think the woman special enough to spend the quality time with than the rest of the women. Wouldn't he want her to know it, feel it?

Women get to do the choosing...we wanna know we made a good choice.

If I chose a man and he didn't feel the same about me I wouldn't be with him...if he wanted others, he should go be with them and leave me out of it. I would be spending most of my time thinking "Oh! I wonder what they're doing tonight?" "I wonder who he is spending MY time with tonight?" That is too much for me I'm out!

That is pretty much where I am coming from...I know I am probably kind of an "old fashioned hick". But that's okay cause I did recently make a choice and it is recipricated with the same mentality, so I am happy.

Ummm Can you help me understand what you are saying?

I don't know if I guessed correctly and I am guessing here but I must go on, LOL!

I don't think Mykil is looking for anything unreasonable. He wants someone who understands him and can mesh in his life and him into hers while still maintaining independence and sense of self while being totally accepting of being loved and loving.

I love his psyche and I don't find it typical or overly male in many ways.

[shellebelle]

Other than the line quoted I think you made the right choice for you.

I appreciate your thinking I am evolved in some way. I don't think I am I think I just love to share. I just don't share beyond dresses with my girlfriends I share men. It's an amazing freedom. It's like having a library account of men with references and reviews!!! I sooo love it!

Like its supposed to be.

[Lorrie]

Well yes, and that is how other women would choose for themselves. Most all that I know anyway.

I knew you would have issue with the "How it is supposed to be" I kinda did too, but that is the conditioning I had growing up...That is how it is supposed to be...Was how it was. I still think it is how it is supposed to be. But I understand that you don't.
And that's okay with me.

Other than the line quoted I think you made the right choice for you.

I appreciate your thinking I am evolved in some way. I don't think I am I think I just love to share. I just don't share beyond dresses with my girlfriends I share men. It's an amazing freedom. It's like having a library account of men with references and reviews!!! I sooo love it!

[Sylph]

Mykil,
When you have painted a few masterpieces out there in your lonely solitude...
and get bored, I think you should look into being a:

Biblical patriarch (lots of wives and concubines)
Rock star (all the women you want) or
Cult leader (they seem to have lots of women and sleeping with the leader is a religious experience)...all you need is a walled compound and some sort of compelling philosophy, like 'Evolution through breaking the bubbles of your boundaries!'

[hales]

I salute you, Shellebelle, for your honesty, self-confidence, and integrity.

I will throw in my opinion, and say that I think that honesty is more important than monogamy, as long as everyone involved accepts responsibility for their own choices to be in or out of the shared relationship.. and everyone is mature and strong enough to carry that responsibility. (no abusive use of age, status, power, wealth, etc..)

That being said, I think that (for me!), having multiple (sexual) partners tends to increase all the variables and thus makes relationship more complicated and fraught with problems.

However, if I wanted to have multiple partners, I would much prefer to be honest and above board, if at all possible. I did some of that in my twenties, and did not feel good about the repercussions, but probably there was not equal agreement about the "terms of engagement". ; / Maybe not full honesty, in a mature, responsible sense.

I am exploring some of these issues, currently, not that I am practicing polyamory in the sexual sense, but I am expanding my ability to be in relationship with more people, which is stretching my my own ability to be unattached, (not be dependent or needy), as well as to enjoy being with more people, while remaining responsible in my primary relationship. (ie: honest and in integrity; (so far, our agreement is that we don't have sex with anyone else, without telling the other partner). My own tendency is to be more "romantic" and monogamous, although it has turned out that I am generally a serial-monogamist, as my old model hasn't worked out that well, long term. (by romantic, I think I mean sort of an idealized, and not terribly realistic view of love, relationship, commitment.. one that has been hard to live up to, for even me!) I have been in some longer term relationships, including a marriage. My current sweetie is younger and we've been sort of on and off and on.. for about 3 years. She's more independent, generally, but I am trying to find more balance in that equation. I'm exploring getting more of my intimacy needs met outside my primary relationship, through weekly dance, social activities, friendships, etc.

I like to flirt, have deep conversations and even physical affection with various people, but I guess my need for sexual intimacy is not so strong that I am strongly drawn to multiple parnters.

Thanks again, for all your honest communication; it's refreshing! ; )

Scott.

Thank you!

I don't think I am one in a million since I know many other woman just as secure. And I am sure you are right in that the couple must be secure.

I just also think his honesty is best. It feels really ugly when one isn't honest about ones truth. I love that he's honest. I know where Mykil stands. Then I get to make choices based on my truth and with full knowledge of his. No cheating or dishonesty. I appreciate that. On the other hand when he tells me the rules of other people then expects me to play uhhhhh "no". LOL Not my game, not my rules, I don't want to play! What fun is playing a game you have to cheat to win at? Why not change the rules! LOL!

[Tinque]

I just want to express my love to ALL of you !

[constantconnection]

Hey there, Tinque!

You go, girl. Thanks so much for your ever-valuable contributions to WACCOBB threads.

As for you, Mykil, picture this:

A woman places a personal ad, looking for a man, saying she wants everything her own way, on her own terms, as do you. She expects you to not only tolerate but enjoy her flirting with every other man in sight.

Tell us all, honestly, if you were really, truly, deeply, arduously, fanatically head over heels in love with this woman and it was her and her alone for you not only for right now but from hereon through eternity, just how, exactly, would you feel about her spending a significant amount of her time coming on to other men in your presence in order to boost her ego and her sense of worth and her sense of being able to arouse (i.e. control) other men?

Can you honestly say you want this equal of yours -- a woman who insists on having things her own way in total disregard and disrespect of what you want and what is important to you? Can you honestly say you want this equal of yours -- a woman who openly gets aroused by and gets an ego boost from flirting with other men right in front of you by turning them on sexually by very cheap and easy means?

Is that what you get off on? No judgment call on my part, but how about being honest with all of us. Is that what you get off on? You getting off on blatantly flirting with other women and turning them on right in front of the woman you love, and insisting on having everything in your relationship on entirely your own terms, and being involved with a woman who likewise gets off on flirting with other men and turning them on right in front of you and insisting on having everything in your relationship on entirely her own terms.

Sounds like a match made in heaven to me. Go for it! And please do let us know how it all turns out! We'll all be absolutely dying to hear!

[wunda]

Hmmm some replies sound like ringing endorsements for Mykil and others... not so much. so Ladies, tell the truth... would you set a friend up with him?

[shellebelle]

I would have no problem playing wingman to Mykil.

But the question was "would you set a friend up with him?"- some of my friend yes - others no. But if I changed that question slightly it would be yes - everyone of them. "Would you introduce a friend to him?"

The first question feels like I would have to know both well enough to feel safe in the set up on both sides. I have many friends I wouldn't date and I certainly wouldn't want Mykil to either! I have friends who range the line and go from "uhhh no!" to "oh yes!" The second question is simply connecting two friends and what they do together is their doing. As long as truth is the basis then I am good have at it!

Hmmm some replies sound like ringing endorsements for Mykil and others... not so much. so Ladies, tell the truth... would you set a friend up with him?

[shellebelle]

Hmmmm You paint an interesting picture.

Not particularly a healthy one though. Let me paint the truth as I know it.

Mykil and I flirt in front my spouses all the time. Geeze if I don't have a conversation hugging Mykil or from within Mykil's arms when he's around my domestic partner asks if we've had a fight. It's a norm; my norm and my core family loves Mykil. They trust him implicitly. If I could give that to every female friend I have I would.

I have never felt like Mykil flirted to turn anyone on but me. I have always gotten the concept, feeling, message that for that brief little moment in time I am not mom, wife, spouse, employee, employer or anything else. I am but woman. Desired, wanted, appreciated, hugged, held, cherished; as woman. If I could give that to every female friend I have I would.

If Mykil's message to the female world is simply "YOU are woman; desired, wanted, appreciated, hugged, held, cherished; as woman." It is the most blessed message anyone has sent to us. It's perfect in its passion and in its need to be said and heard. If I could give that to every female friend I have I would.



That's how I see it.

So yeh I do enjoy introducing people to Mykil and most enjoy flirting with him as much as I do.

Hey there, Tinque!

You go, girl. Thanks so much for your ever-valuable contributions to WACCOBB threads.

As for you, Mykil, picture this:

A woman places a personal ad, looking for a man, saying she wants everything her own way, on her own terms, as do you. She expects you to not only tolerate but enjoy her flirting with every other man in sight.

Tell us all, honestly, if you were really, truly, deeply, arduously, fanatically head over heels in love with this woman and it was her and her alone for you not only for right now but from hereon through eternity, just how, exactly, would you feel about her spending a significant amount of her time coming on to other men in your presence in order to boost her ego and her sense of worth and her sense of being able to arouse (i.e. control) other men?

Can you honestly say you want this equal of yours -- a woman who insists on having things her own way in total disregard and disrespect of what you want and what is important to you? Can you honestly say you want this equal of yours -- a woman who openly gets aroused by and gets an ego boost from flirting with other men right in front of you by turning them on sexually by very cheap and easy means?

Is that what you get off on? No judgment call on my part, but how about being honest with all of us. Is that what you get off on? You getting off on blatantly flirting with other women and turning them on right in front of the woman you love, and insisting on having everything in your relationship on entirely your own terms, and being involved with a woman who likewise gets off on flirting with other men and turning them on right in front of you and insisting on having everything in your relationship on entirely her own terms.

Sounds like a match made in heaven to me. Go for it! And please do let us know how it all turns out! We'll all be absolutely dying to hear!

[mykil]

Golly Jeepers there Deb; don’t hold anything back! Did ya read a book or what! Too many really bad relationships turned bad eh? LOL! Teasing of course this is what I do! Hmmm yes this is truly what I want, not only that but this is what I will have. This is what I did have! And not day in and day out in front of my loving partner. Most women have their moments just like men! Theirs are just more often and you may only take their true self one day at a time. Just like me this goes without saying, she is usually as flirtatious as I. I was born this way BTW! And no I do not want to change. As far as the ego goes, hmmm what can I say YEAH flirting with a women and making her day DOES something for me. And it might just boost my ego

As for getting off what do you mean? Do you surmise I go home and masturbate after flirting with these women? Never really crossed my mind but what the hell ill give it a try!!!!! Hmmm could be a new hobby. I will get back to you on that one… Do you really have that insight to say they are all women? Have you ever met me before or are you getting all you information second hand thru the eyes of the repulsed individuals that I have accosted? Or are so into themselves their dryness or their personality has overtaken their spiritual body and has drained them of any forth site and therefore the only good thing about humor is it hasn’t happed to them… yet? LMAO!! I could go on but you might get what I am saying!

OK sooo with my rising in Capricorn what does that tell you? I was born a Gemini with a rising sign in Capricorn what does that tell you? Will I ever be able to find true love? And if I do will it be enough? These are things that the common women will not understand. Astrology have you heard of it? Do you put any sort of stock into this what so ever? Have you had your own chart done so you can understand what is going on in your own true life, why you are the way you are? Hmmm if sooo then you know why you wrote such a letter, probably to boost you ego as well… hope it worded my lady…

Sooo on with the show… if I were to fall madly in love with a woman that did not want me to have fun while she was not at my side. Meaning I could not even look at another women or talk to another women unless I had her permission I would be damaged good for sure. What would she get out of trying to hang on to a man like me? I will try and answer more of you riddle in a few I need to get off, HA, to work! Peace!

Hey there, Tinque!

You go, girl. Thanks so much for your ever-valuable contributions to WACCOBB threads.

As for you, Mykil, picture this:

A woman places a personal ad, looking for a man, saying she wants everything her own way, on her own terms, as do you. She expects you to not only tolerate but enjoy her flirting with every other man in sight.

Tell us all, honestly, if you were really, truly, deeply, arduously, fanatically head over heels in love with this woman and it was her and her alone for you not only for right now but from hereon through eternity, just how, exactly, would you feel about her spending a significant amount of her time coming on to other men in your presence in order to boost her ego and her sense of worth and her sense of being able to arouse (i.e. control) other men?

Can you honestly say you want this equal of yours -- a woman who insists on having things her own way in total disregard and disrespect of what you want and what is important to you? Can you honestly say you want this equal of yours -- a woman who openly gets aroused by and gets an ego boost from flirting with other men right in front of you by turning them on sexually by very cheap and easy means?

Is that what you get off on? No judgment call on my part, but how about being honest with all of us. Is that what you get off on? You getting off on blatantly flirting with other women and turning them on right in front of the woman you love, and insisting on having everything in your relationship on entirely your own terms, and being involved with a woman who likewise gets off on flirting with other men and turning them on right in front of you and insisting on having everything in your relationship on entirely her own terms.

Sounds like a match made in heaven to me. Go for it! And please do let us know how it all turns out! We'll all be absolutely dying to hear!

[mykil]

sooooo on with the show…as alwayz, to all concerned, today anywayz, and I do mean just for today, cause I am an evolution in progress, this goes without saying, thank you all for being her to witness my evolution!

Now TheCeCe has brought up a few entertaining questions about my morality that seems to be a concerning image to all women in general. Did I over step my boundaries by listing what my intentions were? What I was after? Or even thinking out loud? Hmmm If I was a woman and listed the same intentions would she have said “you go girl”? This is concerning to me for a few strong reasons. All point to issues that are irrelevant to my particular situation, so I will not go on with that venue!

But to be honest, when and not if I am head over heels for a women, she is what occupies my whole, my being, my soul, my heart, make no mistake! Speaking of her at every moment in every day I may get away with, emailing her constantly, calling her on her cell just to say hi, even when I am flirting or toying, or laughing and having a good time with a customer or a friend or a stranger at a yard sale it is still all about her make no mistake.

This is a big, very large part of my personality. It is who I am! Plain and simple I am not going to change, and when someone is with me that adheres to the same personality that I seem to be blessed with mind you, it is all the more compelling. Just ask Tink. When the two of us are together and start flirting or being over zealous in a situation that is overwhelmingly just over the top. The people we are having a blast with have nothing but a pure remissible remarkable scenario they are sure to never forget! This is who we are and putting a joyful expression on another or many others faces in a singe day has to be one of the most joyfulness expressions we can give to the community or the single person that had not laughed or been flirted with in years! Over and over we make people laugh, with the exception of a few that forgot how to laugh, and they can almost crack a smile sometimes on occasion. Hmmmm yes if I was wanting a women that was dry and could not stand in the kitchen due to the heat than I might have stated this in my manifesto yes?

Anywayz enough of dwelling on this and thank you for getting the much needed mykil bashing out of the way, or you may continue because I love the attention mind you! LOL!

There are a few things I would love to stress about all of us thou if you can bear to stand more on a few subjects? WE are all in an evolutionary state at all times. What I write, or think, or even looked like last week, is not necessarily the same I am today! Although I will probably never vary from the path of enlightenment I adhere to, this does not mean my thoughts will never change. When I wrote the first part on that day a week or soo ago, I was in a certain state and that was that, where I was at that given time. AS are all of you today, tomorrow will be a new day and thru personal growth, we will all evolve. From this thread, to the way the sun shines in our souls, tomorrow will be a new day and will bring in a new way of thinking. It will probably not vary much, but it will have evolved and will be somewhat different. Some will have a good day while others will have a bad one. I will have a good day, because I alwayz do, No matter what, my day will be good. This is a wondrous way of life and I hope it never changes. I am happy no matter what. So I tend to make people happy around me! If they are in a bad mood when we meet, chances are they will be in a good mood before they depart my company. Atleast they will have smiled and this is what it is all about. If you want to live a plain simple life then this is who you will be. Who am I to try to change this? yet if I can make you smile, I am going to give this a try! By flirting, being sarcastic and cracking a joke, if you are near me you will have evolved and had personal growth. No matter what, so I might try and make this as pleasant as possible ya?

Anyone can read whatever they want in any scenario, writing, conversation, look, appearance. The vast majority of people I see in a given day, I say the same thing to on any given day “The price for you is ten bucks because you are special”! What does this mean to you? This is as vague and saying the sky is blue everyday of the year! Yet the remarks that come from the thought patterns are amazing to say the least. I say this same thing over and over and have said it ten times today already, if not more. What does this statement leave on the tip of your tongue? It is amazing to me to see words shaped and manipulated to fit ones own true thought pattern, so remarkable that I have to write them down when I hear a phenomenal remark that has a lasting impression on my own cranial cortex. What does that statement mean to you? It is five bucks because you are special? Does it mean I am hitting on you? Does it mean you ride the small bus? Does it make you mad, happy, what?

I am willing to go deep with anyone at pretty much any given time. I love to be outwitted or try and outwit someone else, anyone. soooo don’t be shy, tell it like you see it, give it your best shot, I would even be open to your trying and change my wayz, anyway of thinking is OK as long as it is appealing and has meat! If you have a comment and would love to share how I should be living my life, feel free. What have you got to lose!

OK enough already. I need to get some work done and just wanted to vent that is what I do best to ease my daily pent up emotions. Being happy all the time is a tough gig! PEACE!

[kltkwmn]

I highly, highly recommend reading Jenny Block's book "Open: Love, Sex & Life in an Open Marriage".
It is an honest look at one person's experiences with monogamy and heterosexuality- 2 dominant themes in our culture. Think about it: what are all of the soap operas about but NOT being honest and open. That's one place where drama thrives.