Peyote Ceremony

[nurturetruth]

I must say... I took the option of allowing myself to embrace a sense of hope in the opening/awakening of consciousness when reading Tecumseh's most recently self-realized posts....realizing his own inner work!

Sure we all have our knee jerk reactions at times....but not all of us can hold ourselves accountable for our actions, reactions or responses...

What once was, is not what is. Especially in the NOW!





"Although I may not be able to prevent the worst from happening, I am responsible for my attitude toward the inevitable misfortunes that darken life. Bad things do happen; how I respond to them defines my character and the quality of my life. I can choose to sit in perpetual sadness, immobilized by the gravity of my loss, or I can choose to rise from the pain and treasure the most precious gift I have – life itself."

[Carl]

I still don't like seeing white people play Indian. Won't human beings, as such, continue to experience anger and shame in their lives? As for fitting in, I fit in my own skin.

And I still don't like hearing self-righteous indignant "back to the land natives" complain about how outsiders are imitating their culture. Hey, there are ways of life that all humans inhabit. Since there is no court decreed copyright on this behavior, thank God and the Great Spirit, we must be free to live as we see fit. We all live by imitating our elders. There is much that is positive and life affirming about the Native Cultures from around the whole earth. As there is much that is NOT worth imitating. So let it be.

And regarding your emotional reaction to this "invasion of your cultural purity", if I may coin a phrase, perhaps someday you will relax and let it go. But as long as you hold on to it, though, you will be part of a large contingent of fundamentalist religio-secularists who exist in all cultural groups who try to hedge themselves off against the rolling changes that we face as human beings. Maybe instead, we can help each other to find what is worth doing to grow in spirit and consciousness and not just in population.

[Tecumseh]

Buh, it's "apples"... "Red on the outside, white on the inside", not "bananas". Oh, but wait, that's right, you said you're Cherokee.

S-qua-ni?-di-i, tsu-s-ga.

I've met many Indians who were bananas
yellow on the outside, white on the inside

who are you really mad at Indians or the rest of the world?
is it OK for Mexicans to play Indian?

[Tecumseh]

Guess I'd better throw my cell phone & PC away and tell the wife we're gonna move outta town and go live in a cave cuz we're "back to the land natives" eh? You know any Indians livin' in caves? I don't......

"So let it be"? Oh hell no. Not while fake "shamans" are charging $500.00 for a "sweat lodge" that some Marin county newpaper reporter writes up in a column refering to it as though she spent a day at the spa. Not while dark skinned Indians are living in tarpaper shacks while blond haired-blue eyed "1/132" are getting new government houses and tribal jobs.

('sides, follow your own words and "grow in consciousness", cuz who do you think you are to tell me to leave something be?)

"We all imitate our elders"??? I don't live by imitating my elders. My family is full of alcoholics. Like I said before, YOU DO NOT KNOW ME. And regarding my "emotional reaction", you're soundin' pretty puffed up and self-righteous your own self seems to me.

And I still don't like hearing self-righteous indignant "back to the land natives" complain about how outsiders are imitating their culture. Hey, there are ways of life that all humans inhabit. Since there is no court decreed copyright on this behavior, thank God and the Great Spirit, we must be free to live as we see fit. We all live by imitating our elders. There is much that is positive and life affirming about the Native Cultures from around the whole earth. As there is much that is NOT worth imitating. So let it be.

And regarding your emotional reaction to this "invasion of your cultural purity", if I may coin a phrase, perhaps someday you will relax and let it go. But as long as you hold on to it, though, you will be part of a large contingent of fundamentalist religio-secularists who exist in all cultural groups who try to hedge themselves off against the rolling changes that we face as human beings. Maybe instead, we can help each other to find what is worth doing to grow in spirit and consciousness and not just in population.

[GiGi]

I am glad I made you giggle!

Buh, it's "apples"... "Red on the outside, white on the inside", not "bananas". Oh, but wait, that's right, you said you're Cherokee.

S-qua-ni?-di-i, tsu-s-ga.

[GiGi]

so tell me, what are you doing to help AI and yourself.
I can tell you right now that some of your reactions make Natives cringe
why are you bothered by fake Shamans?
it doesn't bother the truth
how can we help and how are YOU helping?

Guess I'd better throw my cell phone & PC away and tell the wife we're gonna move outta town and go live in a cave cuz we're "back to the land natives" eh? You know any Indians livin' in caves? I don't......

"So let it be"? Oh hell no. Not while fake "shamans" are charging $500.00 for a "sweat lodge" that some Marin county newpaper reporter writes up in a column refering to it as though she spent a day at the spa. Not while dark skinned Indians are living in tarpaper shacks while blond haired-blue eyed "1/132" are getting new government houses and tribal jobs.

('sides, follow your own words and "grow in consciousness", cuz who do you think you are to tell me to leave something be?)

"We all imitate our elders"??? I don't live by imitating my elders. My family is full of alcoholics. Like I said before, YOU DO NOT KNOW ME. And regarding my "emotional reaction", you're soundin' pretty puffed up and self-righteous your own self seems to me.

[nurturetruth]

tsi-ge-yu-i (love) nv-wa-ti (medicine) a-le (and) a-do-hi (family) IS e-lo-hi-no-do-hi-yi-ge-se-s-ti !! (peace on earth!)

sv-ga-ta- (apples) a-le (and) qua-me-na-a (banana's) are both yummy
u-da-ta-nv-a-gi-s-di (fruits) !

and...they are BOTH white on the inside!

and if they are filled with chemicals and unorganic.. they are definitely "white man" origin.

again... many native americans go to the sonoma county indian health clinic daily to receive their pharmaceutical "white man" pills these days.
of course..there is an herbalist on hand for those interested...

Buh, it's "apples"... "Red on the outside, white on the inside", not "bananas". Oh, but wait, that's right, you said you're Cherokee.

S-qua-ni?-di-i, tsu-s-ga.

[nurturetruth]

GOOD REFLECTIVE QUESTION. HOW CAN WE HELP ONE ANOTHER ?!

~ do i have to re-mention that native americans often turn to white medicine rather than herbal alternative remedies? again..there are soo many forms of healing...

its all about the intent.

so tell me, what are you doing to help AI and yourself.
I can tell you right now that some of your reactions make Natives cringe
why are you bothered by fake Shamans?
it doesn't bother the truth
how can we help and how are YOU helping?

[Tecumseh]

I don't have to explain myself to anyone, however since you've asked.....

1. Support an adult rehab center in OK ran by members of my tribe with clothing and $.

2. Lifetime member of my tribe's historical society which I support with $

3. Feed homeless native people

Last year my wife and I took 1,000 lbs. of recycled aluminum, glass and plastics we collected from many places, much of it by cleaning up the Russian River and county parks and rural roads.

We took the money that 1,000 lbs. generated and, along with our regular income, donated to:

1. The Council on Aging Services For Seniors
2. The United States Humane Society
3. The Wilderness Society
4. Defenders of Wildlife
5. Healdsburg Memorial Hospital
6. The Climate Protection Campaign
7. Vietnam Veterans of America


We donated a new cordless telephone and clothing to a battered women's shelter, and clothing to a halfway house for the homeless - Nice NEW or like new clothes.

We don't use the Indian Health facility, we have our own medical insurance and don't take away the resources needed by others.

As for my reactions, they make even me cringe at times.... I am not stupid or blind to my own issues. I work very hard on myself, thus I'm not dead or addicted.

Fake shaman bother me just as much as Jim Jones bothered the surviving families of his followers who drank Kool-Aid. Extrapolate it from there.

Now, what have YOU done lately?

so tell me, what are you doing to help AI and yourself.
I can tell you right now that some of your reactions make Natives cringe
why are you bothered by fake Shamans?
it doesn't bother the truth
how can we help and how are YOU helping?

[Tecumseh]

Oh yea, and donated to "Comic Relief" for the hurricane Katrina folks and "The Human Race" to support Restorative Justice programs.

BTW, fake shamans & plenty of New Age folks make lots of Indians cringe too...

so tell me, what are you doing to help AI and yourself.
I can tell you right now that some of your reactions make Natives cringe
why are you bothered by fake Shamans?
it doesn't bother the truth
how can we help and how are YOU helping?

[GiGi]

so it is fake indians going to a fake shaman to do some fake sweating
that sounds like a comic relief donation to me!
sign me up!

Oh yea, and donated to "Comic Relief" for the hurricane Katrina folks and "The Human Race" to support Restorative Justice programs.

BTW, fake shamans & plenty of New Age folks make lots of Indians cringe too...

[GiGi]

you wanted to know what I do to help?

I teach my children to be nice to the trees on our land
to say hi to the deer
and pray for the gophers when the cat has caught another one
to say thank you when they pick a flower or apple
to pull the weeds instead of spray
to talk to the neighbors
to walk instead of drive
to bike instead of run
but most of all
I tell them to laugh at the end of the day
caus we never know what tmw will bring

I don't have to explain myself to anyone, however since you've asked.....

1. Support an adult rehab center in OK ran by members of my tribe with clothing and $.

2. Lifetime member of my tribe's historical society which I support with $

3. Feed homeless native people

Last year my wife and I took 1,000 lbs. of recycled aluminum, glass and plastics we collected from many places, much of it by cleaning up the Russian River and county parks and rural roads.

We took the money that 1,000 lbs. generated and, along with our regular income, donated to:

1. The Council on Aging Services For Seniors
2. The United States Humane Society
3. The Wilderness Society
4. Defenders of Wildlife
5. Healdsburg Memorial Hospital
6. The Climate Protection Campaign
7. Vietnam Veterans of America


We donated a new cordless telephone and clothing to a battered women's shelter, and clothing to a halfway house for the homeless - Nice NEW or like new clothes.

We don't use the Indian Health facility, we have our own medical insurance and don't take away the resources needed by others.

As for my reactions, they make even me cringe at times.... I am not stupid or blind to my own issues. I work very hard on myself, thus I'm not dead or addicted.

Fake shaman bother me just as much as Jim Jones bothered the surviving families of his followers who drank Kool-Aid. Extrapolate it from there.

Now, what have YOU done lately?

[Tecumseh]

Yea that does sound like comic relief. Thanks.

so it is fake indians going to a fake shaman to do some fake sweating
that sounds like a comic relief donation to me!
sign me up!

[Tecumseh]

Sounds like your kids gotta good mother, they're very lucky. Good for you and them.

you wanted to know what I do to help?

I teach my children to be nice to the trees on our land
to say hi to the deer
and pray for the gophers when the cat has caught another one
to say thank you when they pick a flower or apple
to pull the weeds instead of spray
to talk to the neighbors
to walk instead of drive
to bike instead of run
but most of all
I tell them to laugh at the end of the day
caus we never know what tmw will bring

[Dixon]

BTW, fake shamans & plenty of New Age folks make lots of Indians cringe too...

It's not just Indians they make cringe, believe me! This white boy has been cringing his ass off ever since coming to New Age Sonoma County!

Dixon

[Barton Stone]

This is a valuable discussion.
In the face of enormous environmental changes happening right now, I think the revival, rediscovery, and/or invention of local earth-based religion is a very positive step toward our survival.
I believe it will be non-patriarchal, non-monotheistic, and will have similarities to all previous earth-based religions, including indian ones.
Fundamentalists of all sorts will attack its emergence.
A spirit of openness and innovation will help to bring it about.

[Sara S]

I would like to invite you to my Buddhist sangha, which is a couple of miles south of Sebastopol. We have two Lamas who can answer questions, as well as a library full of information.

We have a website: www.goldridgesangha.org, and some ongoing discussion groups, as well as a monthly "Introduction to Buddhism and to Gold Ridge Sangha".

[earthspirit]

Dear Liz,
I wish you the best of fortune on your path to self-realization...

a realization
~ a well packed question
carries its answer on it's back
like a snail carries its shell

whatever question/answer you seek of the peyote/elder lies within you as it does within us all.

i humbly ask you to reconsider your wish to take the life force of a single peyote cactus from the gentle embrace of the earth. they are endangered and need our protection. you know well the rippling effect on consciousness that but one radiant human being has...it is the same for one of the beings we call peyote...
imagine how powerful it would be to find a circle of people to sit around ONE of these wise beings and shower it with love and blessings and songs...


if you seek it's wisdom give yourself over to the peyote~
sit with one in nature and marvel at its beauty and give thanks for it simply existing and radiating its truth...then the peyote will give itself to you and the answers you seek will reveal themselves and the gentle one will sit and thrive and await another true truth seeker.

we must transform. we must wean ourselves of the need to "take" from nature or thing else. we must find nourishment and joy in color, beauty, sound, & smell...so much so that the act of eating brings tears of gratitude to our eyes...
for the miracle and blessing of a pulsing life force absorbed into another...then our need to "consume" will be healed and we will need very little because the little we have is holy and blessed by our love and gratitude...
in this way we will heal ourselves and this wondrous living being we call Earth

much love and respect to you
angela
feel free to write me I'd be happy to share my experiences with you
[email protected]

In case you are wondering...no, i have not and never will take the life of a single peyote cactus...
i have too much respect for them to do that.

[Dixon]

...no, i have not and never will take the life of a single peyote cactus...
i have too much respect for them to do that.

I hope you have less respect for things like carrots, potatoes, turnips, etc. Otherwise, you won't be with us much longer. :^)

Dixon

[Tars]

If you put on or know where one of those Peyote Ceremonies happens, won't you email me the information?

Why....thank ya.

Tars

[iaim2xl]

Angela:

I know I live on the left coast, and I thought I had heard everything, but that was before I read your post. I am appalled!

How can you discriminate so against the OTHER plant life on this planet in favor of peyote? I mean, here you are calling for Liz not to take the life of a peyote button... But you utter not one word about all the other plants she's probably killing daily. And I'll bet you're killing quite a few yourself.

What about all the helpless vegetables whose slaughter you condone simply because you want to eat? Or the terrified fruits that shed their life juice at the altar of your savage appetite? But it doesn't end there. Do you even stop to think about the innocent unborn seeds that these "food items" carry deep within their bosom? I'll bet you don't give it a thought.

You probably even clothe yourself with "natural" fabrics. My guess is that you openly flaunt the dead and discarded carcasses of cotton, hemp and other valiant entities. Stop being so thoughtless! You could just as easily use synthetic fibers where no living plant must die in service of your quest for fashion.

Ever drink wine, Angela? There you go again! You're fine with a little grapecide as long as it happens behind closed winery doors... But just don't touch one of your precious peyote buttons. What hypocrisy!

The next time you issue public defense of one plant species, I ask you to expand your plea to include ALL plants--not just those whom you favor.

And then there's the thinly veiled condemnation of native spiritual practices that permeates your post. You are insinuating that tribes which engage in peyote ceremonies are murderers. Bet you didn't even think about that, did you?

The discrimination and bigotry must end, Angela. For shame!

Dear Liz,
I wish you the best of fortune on your path to self-realization...

a realization
~ a well packed question
carries its answer on it's back
like a snail carries its shell

whatever question/answer you seek of the peyote/elder lies within you as it does within us all.

i humbly ask you to reconsider your wish to take the life force of a single peyote cactus from the gentle embrace of the earth. they are endangered and need our protection. you know well the rippling effect on consciousness that but one radiant human being has...it is the same for one of the beings we call peyote...
imagine how powerful it would be to find a circle of people to sit around ONE of these wise beings and shower it with love and blessings and songs...


if you seek it's wisdom give yourself over to the peyote~
sit with one in nature and marvel at its beauty and give thanks for it simply existing and radiating its truth...then the peyote will give itself to you and the answers you seek will reveal themselves and the gentle one will sit and thrive and await another true truth seeker.

we must transform. we must wean ourselves of the need to "take" from nature or thing else. we must find nourishment and joy in color, beauty, sound, & smell...so much so that the act of eating brings tears of gratitude to our eyes...
for the miracle and blessing of a pulsing life force absorbed into another...then our need to "consume" will be healed and we will need very little because the little we have is holy and blessed by our love and gratitude...
in this way we will heal ourselves and this wondrous living being we call Earth

much love and respect to you
angela
feel free to write me I'd be happy to share my experiences with you
[email protected]

In case you are wondering...no, i have not and never will take the life of a single peyote cactus...
i have too much respect for them to do that.

[earthspirit]

for all those that emailed me assuming that i did not value all life as sacred...

i ran out of time while writing my post, my son awoke and i was exhausted...

i do value all life equally. not just the life of peyote. although i do have to say that cabbages and apples are not endangered like peyote...save maybe from gmos.
i value all life and the life that was given to make "inanimate" objects that surround us... the rocks, the pavement, the spoon which came from the belly of the same mother that embraces us all. the plastics,were once ancient plant or animals. i garden gently with my hands, sing to the plants and bugs on my walks, worship the dirt & thank all the elements that sustain life on a daily and constant basis...
i shop at the second hand store, save the seeds from the fruits and vegetables i eat and on my walks with my son scatter the seeds that the cycle may be completed. on occasion i do take a crap in a toilet. and my prayer is there for all the elements and i ask for forgiveness for the waste it produces. i prefer to go outside and do so often...
in short, to all of you that wrote to me with love or something else...it is all a reflection of yourself...not of who i am. you know me not. if you would like ask me questions instead and you will know what is in my heart. we can help eachother to speak more mindfully, but more often this is accomplished with kindness than anger and harsh words. ask me to clarify or expand on my ideas and i will be happy to do so. peace and love to you all. let us be that which we wish to see in this world and let us remember and honor that wacco was INTENDED to "connect conscious community". let us therefore consciously communicate our IDEAS in a loving way that our seeds/intentions will grow up to become what we REALLY want.

In Lake'ch,
~ (In La-Kesh): Mayan greeting meaning "I am another yourself"
ANGELA

[nurturetruth]

Thank you Angela for clarifying yourself and expressing/sharing a bit more of "who you are". Beautiful crafty response!

Thank you for enjoying the simple things in life, for singing to the plants, and for keeping the cycle of life going...by planting seeds!

It is my vision that we all receive what we need for our own individual awakening/opening of consciousness as well as for our Healing. ( if that means peyote, ayawaska, salvia divinorium..or just dancin/trancin..or eating ALIVE vibe food...so be it! and be well! )

In Lake'ch,

Kalina

for all those that emailed me assuming that i did not value all life as sacred...

i ran out of time while writing my post, my son awoke and i was exhausted...

i do value all life equally. not just the life of peyote. ...

[earthspirit]

Thank You,

Thank you Angela for clarifying yourself and expressing/sharing a bit more of "who you are". Beautiful crafty response!
...

[jpstillwater]

So, Bottom line....

Does anybody out there know how to get in touch with a (hopefully legal)
peyote ceremony, source, ritual, shaman, whatever?

I'm wondering if anyone knows if there is anything in Northern California or outside where I could do a vision quest using peyote. I'm very into knowing more about my path and where it will lead in the past psychedelics have helped along with books, people, workshops, volunteering etc. I would love to speak with a Shaman study and understand more but I'm being called out right now in my heart to try peyote not for "fun" but for spirit.

[LifeIsSweet]

Google "shaman ceremony big sur" and you will find a couple results. Best of luck on your journey.

Hi,

I'm wondering if anyone knows if there is anything in Northern California or outside where I could do a vision quest using peyote. I'm very into knowing more about my path and where it will lead in the past psychedelics have helped along with books, people, workshops, volunteering etc. I would love to speak with a Shaman study and understand more but I'm being called out right now in my heart to try peyote not for "fun" but for spirit.

Namaste,
Liz

[oldbaldman]

This is happening tonight. You can talk with kindred souls there:

Join our friends at PSYCHONAUT PRODUCTIONS for “AYAHUASCA MONOLOGUES: TALES OF THE SPIRIT VINE”

When: This Thursday, June 19th, 2014
Where: The Center SF, 548 Fillmore (Near Fell St), SF, 94117
Doors - 7pm. Performance Starts at 7:30pm (Storytellers listed below)
-Sliding Scale: $20-$45
-Adv Tix (recommended): Paypal [email protected] with SF Monologues in subject line.
-$100 includes pre-event dinner celebration fundraiser with speakers & hosts (paypal Payment-Talathealing.com)
-This will likely be standing room only, so arrive early for a good spot, even if you buy in advance.
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Over the last 8 years, the NYC “Ayahuasca Monologues” has captivated audiences with stories of the potent Amazonian psychoactive brew. And for the first time, the show’s creator, Evolver co-founder Jonathan Talat Phillips will be directing and hosting the California shows alongside his PSYCHONAUT PRODUCTIONS co-pilot Claudia Wheeler Rappe.

For millennia, indigenous shamans have utilized this powerful concoction to heal illness, obtain mystical insights, contact spirit guides, and explore magical realms. Its recent and rapid introduction to the West has drawn seekers looking for spiritual development, alternative treatments for physical and emotional illnesses, and daredevil journeys into wild and weird psychonautic frontiers. Whatever the case, nearly everyone comes back with an incredible story.

As ayahuasca spreads across the West, for one night in SF and LA, we’ll come together as a culture and community to hear stories both miraculous and terrifying, humorous and adventurous, humbling and revelatory as Westerners access ayahuasca’s incredible gifts.

Live auction fundraiser to create the first “Center of Psychonautics,” an innovation center, cultural hub, and community events space in the East Bay. Healthy elixirs and snacks will be sold at both events.

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HOST

Jonathan Talat Phillips: Author of “The Electric Jesus: The Healing Journey of a Contemporary Gnostic;” co-founder of PSYCHONAUT PRODUCTIONS, The Evolver Network, & Reality Sandwich; “Huffington Post” religion blogger; “Professional psychonaut, energy healer, & quantum medicine guide. Set up a session or psychonautic journey at www.TalatHealing.com.

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SF STORYTELLERS
Thurs, June 19
The Center SF, 7pm

Erik Davis: Host of the podcast Expanding Mind; author of the cult classic “Techgnosis: Myth, Magic, and Mysticism in the Age of Information,” and “Nomad Codes: Adventures in Modern Esoterica”; PhD candidate in Religious Studies. Davis is a contributing writer for “Wired” magazine, and wrote "The Posthuman Condition" column for Feed. His essays have appeared in over half a dozen books. www.techgnosis.com

Meriana Dinkova is a psychotherapist and workshop facilitator. She organizes retreats to Peru, combining medicine work with neo-shamanistic and psychotherapeutic techniques. There she works with with experienced indigenous shamans, and teaches workshops on tools for navigating non-ordinary states of consciousness. For more info about her work and upcoming retreats go to: www.merianadinkova.com.

Ken Adams: Transmedia artist and film maker. His current film project, “Imaginatrix: The Terence McKenna Experience,” will be released this summer. Previous films include “Alien DreamTime,” “Imaginary Muslims,” and “Strange Attractor.” He has screened at Esalen Institute, Cloud 9, East Bay Media Center, Burning Man and related festivals. Recent interviews are available thru Palenque Norte, Sol Purpose, Dr. Future, and other podcasts.

Michaelangelo: improvisational performance and multi-media artist instilling wonder and excitement for the creative mystery of every moment. This "Astroverted EntheoGentleman" distills essences into illuminating images, sounds, and words with his sixth sense of humor. A painter, writer, bard, musician, and Scottish Rapper from the Netherlands, Michaelangelo is launching his Kickstarter - a Necromantic Scottish Rap epoch, Void Denizen.www.voidandimagination.com

Claudia Wheeler-Rappe: Photographer and multimedia artist who has spent the last decade exploring and expanding her psychonautic edge. She has lived abroad in both Europe and Asia; spent extensive time studying and dieting under the tutelage of the Gringo Shaman of the Amazon, Ron Wheelock; and spent over a year photo-documenting the underbellies of San Francisco, focusing on substance users in the Tenderloin. She is the co-founder of Psychonaut Productions, a media platform for promoting psychonautic education and transformation.

Peter Touchard: NLP Practitioner, campfire storyteller and giver of most excellent hugs. Touchard has been on “a rapid-fire self exploration and personal growth path” over the last few years, including Marin style NLP, plant medicine and psychonautics, and learning “the world of curandismo.” He is available for transformational NLP sessions at www.PeterTouchard.com.


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