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    Article: An evening with Foster and Kimberly Gamble at IONS

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    Foster and Kimberly Gamble are the producers of the well known New Age movie “Thrive.” On Thursday, March 6 they gave a presentation at the Institute of Noetic Sciences in the hills south of Petaluma. I decided to attend although I had long been a strong critic of the movie’s libertarian vision of what a thriving world would be like. Like so many ideologies, libertarianism promises infinitely more than it can deliver. I had been assured by the gathering’s organizer that I would have an opportunity to ask questions and enter into dialogue, and it seemed a worthwhile thing to do. I even took a copy of my new book Faultlines: the Sixties, the Culture War and the Return of the Divine Feminine, to give to the Gambles.

    It turned out there was no chance to enter into dialogue (I got to ask one question, answered in standard libertarian boilerplate, with no chance for any follow up). Even so, I found the evening well worth my time, though not for the reasons the Gambles would likely have preferred.

    The Gambles impressed me as good hearted, honest, intelligent, deeply committed individuals doing their best to combat many of the greatest abuses of power we are experiencing in America today. They told of their successful effort to help stop plans to spray much of northern California with pesticides to kill an invasive insect, and explained how in New Zealand the problem had been handled by moving away from monocultures and industrial agriculture towards more organic and ecologically wise methods. The described their efforts against GMOs and against predatory banks stealing people’s homes. All this was good stuff.

    The more they talked the more it became clear to me that for them libertarianism was something like the withering away of the state for the average Marxist. The Gambles had apparently been converted to it by their son, incorporated his suggested reading list into their website, and adopted the libertarian misunderstanding of the non-coercion principle as their ultimate moral vision. But I doubt they ever read the books their site recommended.
    The Gambles were clearly motivated by their hearts and perhaps more than any other ideology libertarianism is motivated by the mind alone, a mind in love with abstractions, the more removed from actual lives the better. Certainly the work of Murray Rothbard, Ayn Rand, and Ludwig von Mises, libertarianism’s recommended heavy hitters, were in no way compatible with the spiritual and New Age vision the Gambles were presenting.

    In my one question I pointed out that the inspiring examples they gave of the work they were involved in were instances of civil society at its best. Civil society is that intricate network of creative cooperation generated by men and women who are equal under the law and free to pursue whatever interest they have compatible with others’ similar freedom. The Gambles interpreted all this as examples of libertarian society, but the market around which libertarians organize their thinking is dominated by the price system and success is measured in terms of profit. At most the market is a part of civil society, and the institutions most wedded to the market system are not part of civil society at all. The corporations they blamed for many of our worst problems are expressions of pure market logic overriding free men and women when successful businesses use their resources to manipulate the law in their favor. The Gambles did not seem to grasp this fact.
    Instead, and here is where the evening got very interesting to me, according to the Gambles those and other bad things arose out of deliberate conspiracy.

    The Gambles correctly pointed out enormous damage done to us all by people motivated by the desire for power over others. These people are disproportionately drawn to the top of whatever powerful organizations exist. Today, they contended, our problems were largely rooted in the efforts of malevolent bankers to create a one-world government. That we are dominated by criminal banks and that their top people are indistinguishable from organized crime should be pretty clear to anyone paying attention to events in this country.

    But sadly the Gambles did not stop there. The bankers, they said, were a modern branch of the Illuminati, a centuries old conspiracy against liberty – one that supposedly begun when there was no liberty to speak of to conspire against. The conspiracy the Gambles described went beyond simply seeking to establish a corporatist state dominating the world, a view with significant evidence behind it, to creating an apparatus that would deliberately seek to bring down the world’s population through the gradual poisoning of us all by means of additives to our food, pesticides, and chem. trails. They showed a photo of ‘chem trails’ as contrasted with a clear sky as the way the heavens would look if there were no such conspiracy.

    And this photo helps explain one of the greatest problems with conspiracy theories and with the Gambles’ vision.

    Chem trails and contrails
    I grew up in Wichita, Kansas, home at the time of more aviation companies than any other city and of a major Air Force base as well. These trails were all over the sky. Pretty much every day. They were contrails, created by condensation as airplanes traveled high enough and fast enough to trigger the phenomena.

    As a passenger I have looked down on another passenger jet traveling below me as we passed. A few feet behind the end of each wing you could easily see the contrail forming. They look the same today as when I was a kid in Wichita well over 50 years ago. A common phenomena was made into something sinister because people did not understand it.

    (In addition, hypothetical chem. trails are a very stupid way to poison anything because they are formed so high there is no way to tell where the chemicals will land, and the poisoners live on the same planet as their supposed targets. There are much easier and more focused ways to do the job if that is the job you want to do.)

    The chain of thinking went roughly like this:– powerful bankers are organized crime (good evidence) – bankers seek world government run by them (some evidence) - bankers are part of centuries old conspiracy by Illuminati (no evidence) – this conspiracy wants to eliminate much of the world’s population (no evidence) – this conspiracy is using food additives, chem. trails, and pesticides to do so (no evidence).

    [ See our excellent earlier article on
    The Unsavory Origins of Chemtrails, here].

    Lazy thinking
    Conspiracy is the lazy way to explain problems. Something is wrong, it is obvious it is wrong, and so someone must have deliberately set out to do this bad thing. Further, once we start thinking in terms of conspiracies, there is little to stop them from growing larger and more all inclusive. They are an easy answer for why every problem exists where some benefit at the expense of others. The Gambles’ evolution from thinking about conspiratorial
    criminal bankers (where there is a case to be made) to thinking about the Bavarian Illuminati planning to kill off much of humanity is an example.

    We are pattern-perceiving beings. Our greatest strength in understanding the world is our ability to perceive patterns in the complex phenomena around us. Our greatest weakness is our relative inability to evaluate the reality of the patterns we see. Science is by far the most effective means humanity has developed to evaluate the reality of apparent patterns and eliminate the false ones, if they are amenable to scientific evaluation.

    Conspiracies are groups of people seeking to attain ends others, if they knew about them, would oppose. Consequently the conspirators seek to hide what they are doing. This kind of thing has been happening throughout history. A major problem with conspiracies as explanations is that any evidence against them can be explained away as a deliberate mystification produced by the conspirators to throw us off. They should be a last resort, not a first.

    Conspiracies exist at the micro level, and probably always have, and so it is tempting to use them as explanations for events at every level. If we make three assumptions, any evidence or argument against the existence of any particular conspiracy can be debunked. First is the one I mentioned above- any contradictory evidence was planted by the conspirators to hide their efforts. To this, which sometimes actually happens, is added the additional beliefs that the conspirators are superhumanly intelligent and malevolent and that the world is simple enough that it can be controlled, or virtually controlled - except for the valiant efforts of those opposing the conspiracy.

    With these three assumptions it is easy to believe we are pawns in a vast game far bigger than we are, like the ‘multi-dimensional chess” game Obama was fantasized to be playing whenever he disappointed his supporters. But this game is on a vastly larger canvas in time and space.

    Fantasizing on this level invites equally enormous fantasies of hidden supporters of the good side. So Foster Gamble spoke of secret Chinese families hidden away in inaccessible regions of China who, with their other Asian allies, control so much gold they could bring the criminal bankers to their knees. And they are planning to do so. Further, the Gambles were being guided themselves by immaterial entities helping them play a role in a cosmic struggle.

    I personally have no reasonable doubt that spirits exist and that some phenomena involved in channeling is from other-than-human sources. But anyone who has ever played with a Ouija Board knows that those sources are not necessarily truthful. If we are wise they need to be evaluated with the same discernment we do with human beings. Conspiracy theories lead us in the opposite direction. These entities are either malevolent and virtually all seeing (the fundamentalist Christian approach) or benevolent and virtually all-seeing (what appears to be the general New Age approach).

    At this point the Gambles’ gathering had gone about an hour over the scheduled time and as we had entered a realm of the Illumaniti, channeled authorities, and secret Chinese sages of enormous wealth, I decided it was time to depart. I left the Gambles and their supporters to pursue the constructive efforts so many were doing at the boots-on-the-ground level and wasting their time exploring the off the wall explanations they had for what it all meant.

    Clear thinking
    How should we think about conspiracies? They do exist and sometimes are important. How then do we evaluate the existence of any particular case? First, again, they should be our last explanation, not our
    first. If any alternative and more mundane explanation exists it should be given pride of place. Here is where the Gambles’ libertarianism blinds them. Supposedly if people were simply free the world would work and we would thrive. No such thing a systemic biases and independence exists to intervene between our motives and their results.

    Therefore if things go wrong, someone must be responsible. But as Adam Smith explained, to give one example of such a bias, the market acts as if there were an invisible hand. That hand has its own biases.

    Second, the more people involved in the conspiracy the less likely it is to exist. Look at the problem the White House has with controlling leaks. Imagine how much greater this problem would be with a much vaster conspiracy seeking for centuries to rule the world. Further, the conspirators, being malevolent, would conspire against one another for domination of the conspiracy, weakening it and increasing leaks even more.

    Third, the more intricate the conspiracy the less likely it is to exist. The world is unimaginably complex. The unexpected is always happening. Anyone who has ever run a business knows one of their most time-consuming tasks is dealing with unexpected problems. Organizations are messy and personal issues are often as important as more objective ones in getting things done, or causing them to unravel. This is as true for conspiracies as for anything else. The Gambles know we cannot centrally plan an economy, but think we can centrally plan Western history for hundreds of years.

    It is a pity but not unusual for good hearted, intelligent, and hard working people to get enmeshed with seeing the world as a conspiracy of the bad against the good or the simply naïve. This problem arises from our ability to see patterns all around us, and our relative inability to evaluate their reality. Seeing conspiracies requires little effort to see a pattern. Sadly, in my view the Gambles have fallen into this error.

    Hopefully they will continue to do more good than harm, but they could do so much more good had they not become so captivated by such an alluring but ultimately lazy way of making sense of our present predicament. But there is another level of irony here. Their website claims that scientists are deeply divided over the issue of anthropogenic global warming. This is demonstrably false. The Scientific American pointed out from Nov 2012 to Dec 2013 there were 2258 peer reviewed articles on climate change authored by 9136 authors. (Some had multiple authors.) ONE author rejected global warming. From 1991n to 2011, 97 percent of scientists with a stated position on the cause of global warming argue it is human caused.

    Here is a crisis that might significantly decrease the population and in most unpleasant ways, and the Gambles’ mix of libertarian ideology (which cannot solve the global warming problem and so long denied it exists and now says we are not causing it) and conspiracies of bankers blinds them to it.
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    Perhaps one reason conspiracy theories are so attractive is that they provide the assurance that someone is in charge, even if that someone is malevolent. For some that is more comfortable than the thought that there may be no plan at all - that our social reality is simply the result of the accumulated actions of all of us.
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    Re: Article: An evening with Foster and Kimberly Gamble at IONS

    Good point. I would only add that our accumulated actions are sorted and weighted not simply by our and others' responses, but also by the systems of coordination within which they exist. These systems have their own biases that give advantages to some and disadvantages to others independently of anyone's motives. Two examples: English treats nouns as independent from their actions. You can suggest otherwise (Buckminister Fuller said "I am a verb." But English's default position is that I am not a verb. The "invisible hand" of the market favors actions whose success or failure can be calculated only in terms of dollars because that is the form its feedback takes when serving to guide us.

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    Perhaps one reason conspiracy theories are so attractive is that they provide the assurance that someone is in charge, even if that someone is malevolent. For some that is more comfortable than the thought that there may be no plan at all - that our social reality is simply the result of the accumulated actions of all of us.
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    Excellent article critiquing the movie Thrive and the Gambles’ Tea Party-on-acid worldview.

    While there was some good stuff in the movie — as was pointed out — nonetheless, many of the prominent thought leaders featured in the film later disassociated themselves from the movie claiming they were misled about the content, including Deepak Chopra, Vandana Shiva, Amy Goodman, Paul Hawken, John Perkins, John Robbins, Elisabet Sahtouris, and astronaut Edgar Mitchell who was the founder of IONS where the Gambles recently appeared. (Incidentally, the recent event was not an IONS event but a Friendly Favors event using the IONS venue.) In a joint statement from these featured speakers denouncing the film they said, “We are equally dismayed that our participation is being used to give credibility to ideas and agendas that we see as dangerously misguided.” John Robbins described the film as weaving “progressive ideas into its paranoid, radical libertarian narrative.”

    Another worthwhile critique of the film is by Rob Hopkins who is the founder of the Transition Town movement. One of the problems of claiming there are existing “free energy” machines being suppressed from us is that it relieves us and society from making the hard changes we need to make. It takes the responsibility away from us. They have a free energy machine that will come out any day now! Of course, the makers of Thrive believe climate change is a hoax, so I suppose that doesn’t really matter to them.

    Much of the horrific thinking behind this film you can find on the “Get Informed” section of the Thrive movie website. Again, there is also good stuff, but found among the good stuff is content such as simplistic and outdated attacks on Al Gore and how climate change is a hoax perpetrated by bankers. Example: "Is there a financial incentive for Al Gore to have people believe his data about global warming?"

    Perhaps the most disturbing thing about the Gambles is their hard core libertarian philosophy (found here on the website) that advocates for the privatization of just about everything, including roads. I found this statement on the Thrive website interesting: “Private owners of forest land are not known to clear cut.”

    But then, I suppose it’s easy to advocate for mass privatization and for a society where everyone must pay for everything if one is the heir to the Proctor Gamble fortune.

    Scott
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    In addition, the English language, along with most other Indo-European languages, consists primarily of nouns and verbs. As a result, its native speakers are lead to experience the world as things and actions upon things. Not every language does this. Navajo, for instance, consists almost entirely of adverbs, leading its speakers to experience the world as flow and qualities of flow change.

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    Good point. I would only add that our accumulated actions are sorted and weighted not simply by our and others' responses, but also by the systems of coordination within which they exist. These systems have their own biases that give advantages to some and disadvantages to others independently of anyone's motives. Two examples: English treats nouns as independent from their actions. You can suggest otherwise (Buckminister Fuller said "I am a verb." But English's default position is that I am not a verb. The "invisible hand" of the market favors actions whose success or failure can be calculated only in terms of dollars because that is the form its feedback takes when serving to guide us.
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    And the MicMac (spelling?) language is all verbs - how different the world must look from a verbing perspective.
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    In addition, the English language, along with most other Indo-European languages, consists primarily of nouns and verbs. As a result, its native speakers are lead to experience the world as things and actions upon things. Not every language does this. Navajo, for instance, consists almost entirely of adverbs, leading its speakers to experience the world as flow and qualities of flow change.
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    And the MicMac (spelling?) language is all verbs - how different the world must look from a verbing perspective.
    these people aren't even egocentric enough to give directions relative to themselves - they don't say "in front of me" or "to my left". They have more respect for their surroundings, I guess, and don't see themselves as the center of things.
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