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Thanks for sharing the link. I posted it on Paul Hobb's Facebook page, thinking that his fans might be interested. To be seen how long it stays there.
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The Anderson Valley Advertiser Link - is one exemplary article on the now infamous Hobbs. A fine piece of research.
This is Joan here. I did not copy "peace voyager's" whole post, just the first sentence/above, because the post is lengthy, and these message boards get to be redundant.
Peace Voyager, you write very well, and have given much time, energy & data on the Grand Jury Process. Anyone can take it to the next step using your posting.
I commit to file a Grand Jury complaint. Anyone else care to join me?
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You basically need to have some reason that gives you the right to intervene, typically that you have a financial interest in the case in some way. Moral reasons alone are not enough. (There are some exceptions, but none that I can see apply in this case.)
... If someone were to have intervened legally on Jenkel's behalf, when he has adamantly refused to hire his own counsel or legal representative, and has been deemed competent to represent himself in front of a judge, and if John Jenkel were to reject that support (which I suspect is likely in this hypothetical scenario, since I don't believe anyone has actually offered or gone beside or around him, we probably will never know what he would have actually done) would such an advocate have any standing in a court of law? In other words if someone doesn't want, and refuses, legal help, can they be helped legally anyway? Counselor's? Anybody?
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I for one am totally OK with the druggy’s being gone! That place was a drug haven; the four houses and the water tower were full of Meth to the end!
I actually like John [Mr. Jenkels] but you guys truly are missing a huge part of the whole conspiracy theory here! After being John’s Neighbor for over ten years I can tell you a thing or two about what really went down in his own little world, I was there for every step of the law suit, the fight, the stupidity!
Now John is a brilliant environmentalist, community representative, and a true hero to the world around us. Hell, he can fight the good fight. I just really wish he had his true mind; He would be a savior to us all! He has Schizophrenia and that is that. He refuses to do anything about his delusions. On his remaining property there are several Meth addicts still traipsing around. This is why the fire department and the sheriff’s department went in on the substation on top of the hill, mainly for the drugs. The sheriff needed a place; it was a huge part of why Graton built the fire station/substation up on top. Well, pretty much the ONLY reason!!! Didn’t hear anyone saying anything about the removal of anything right down the street so I guess they are OK?
John started this fight with Hobbs plain and simple, and when Hobbs had to defend himself against a man that literally spends one third of his days in courts, what is a man to do. I knew day one about the lawsuit; John came it and told me he was suing Mr. Hobbs for some trees he had killed. I heard every aspect of this, and let me tell you John got what he had coming!!! I love you John, do us all a favor and get some help so you can really see the world for what it is, instead of the voices in your head!
Yeah the grapes versus a few dozen drug addicts, hmmm, well the grapes won, I for one am glad! As a matter of fact I can’t wait till that whole friggin block and surrounding area is one big sloth of grapes!!!![]()
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Hello Concerned Neighbors, I think perhaps it is important to step back from the picture to get a clearer perspective.
There are many unfortunate realities at play here, and then there is what what is ahead.This forum bring clarity to our situation. The Agencies of our government and the agents we have elected do not have our long term best interest stated in law. Maybe in the beginning it was thought reasonable to encourage economic growth and revenue by allowing agriculture(Vineyards) free reign, and then the world went Uber corporate. This unchecked advantage simply needs to be addressed. There is still no good reason that this slash and burn policy, in what is known as a scenic corridor, should be allowed for the personal profit of an LLC. We share this county with each other don't we? These 150 year old trees did not take anything away from Mr. Hobbs bottom line, and belonged to everyone on the "Scenic corridor". There is no happy ending to this story unless we as a community offer some positive route to correct this by updating and expanding the law to consider all of us. I continue to be offended at the thoughtless lack of response or crocodile tears from all responsible parties, but it speak volumes about personal character doesn't it? Ok, want something done right ,do it yourself.What to do? Any wisdom on a path folks? Thanks
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I want to say in response to the above that unless someone has read an actual clinical assessment of John Jenkel, that makes that diagnosis, I don't believe he is schizophrenic. He is exasperating, megalomaniacal, grandiose and irrational. There is something profoundly amiss in his thinking and personality structure which doesn't appear to be softening, changing or recovering. But I have worked at close quarters with schizophrenics, and from what I see that is not Jenkel's problem.Now John is a brilliant environmentalist, community representative, and a true hero to the world around us. Hell, he can fight the good fight. I just really wish he had his true mind; He would be a savior to us all! He has Schizophrenia and that is that. He refuses to do anything about his delusions.
It's important not to start floating that misconception into the public rumor mill. Moreover attributing John's extreme, self-defeating and community-harming actions to "schizophrenia" reinforces very inaccurate and sinister misconceptions about this tragically painful disability in the public mind.
I certainly wouldn't agree that John Jenkel is a "brilliant" activist of any sort. Or a lucid and constructive environmentalist. Or a community spokesperson (God help us). Nor do I see him as fighting a good fight. He's too self-absorbed and invested in his own grandiose drama to be any of those things. It's valid to denounce the injustice and corruption which was perpetrated with John as a pawn and foil. But if peoples' campaign to right the wrongs of this incident attempts to center on Jenkel as an abused victim, it will only take about a two-second interview or letter to the editor by Jenkel to utterly discredit that story, and any campaign trying to sell it , for 95% of the Sonoma County public.
No I don't want to see stands of redwoods irrevocally destroyed as a supposed antidote to the meth epidemic.
No I don't believe that either the Graton Police or Fire substation was sited where it is to surveil meth labs on Jenkel's land.
Someone who insists that is true is not using sound or coherent reasoning.
I don't plan to get sucked into a pissing match with Mykil about any of this. So I won't be posting further on these points. If people think what I wrote is accurate, fine. If not, that's as much as I plan to discuss it. Waccobb community forum flaming orgies have blessed Humanity with some of the most pointless and wasteful egotistical shit-storms in all of cosmic history.
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There are many unfortunate realities at play here, and then there is what what is ahead.This forum bring clarity to our situation. The Agencies of our government and the agents we have elected do not have our long term best interest stated in law. Maybe in the beginning it was thought reasonable to encourage economic growth and revenue by allowing agriculture(Vineyards) free reign, and then the world went Uber corporate. This unchecked advantage simply needs to be addressed. There is still no good reason that this slash and burn policy, in what is known as a scenic corridor, should be allowed for the personal profit of an LLC. We share this county with each other don't we? These 150 year old trees did not take anything away from Mr. Hobbs bottom line, and belonged to everyone on the "Scenic corridor". There is no happy ending to this story unless we as a community offer some positive route to correct this by updating and expanding the law to consider all of us. I continue to be offended at the thoughtless lack of response or crocodile tears from all responsible parties, but it speak volumes about personal character doesn't it? Ok, want something done right ,do it yourself.What to do? Any wisdom on a path folks? Thanks
WELL PUT AND RIGHTLY SAID, GREENBUDDY
I have other priorities, so I'm not available to implement or be part of any campaign myself. For those who are, here is a possible suggestion:
Use the sad and ugly reality of what's happened, as a major exhibit, in a public campaign to amend (NOT repeal) the Right to Farm ordinance.
Real farmers DO have many legitimate grievances. Big problems are created for farmers when sentimental suburbanites move in around them who can't stand the smell of manure, or think farmers shouldn't plow if doing so makes a dust cloud. Or who expect farmers to pay for road resurfacing that gives beamers and CRVs a smooth ride.
It's not the existence of farm protections which is the culprit here. It's the astroturfing agri-business lobbyists that hijacked the cause of the real farmer to blow a loophole in environmental protection and community accountability. The ordinance needs to be amended to be and do what it claims, while kicking speculative profiteers off the bus.
Real farmers are facing an economic crisis that makes their livelihoods and traditional lives impossible. There SHOULD be protections for them. Whatever portions of the Right to Farm ordinance provide valid protections for those actual farmers need to be preserved. Any campaign to modify the ordinance needs to be clear about that. As a matter of justice, and as a matter of electoral tactics. Better yet, add some new, stronger protections for real farmers that can't be hijacked and deformed in ways that arrogant scheming wine profiteers and other investor-gamers can't misuse to circumvent environmental protections and rape our Mother.
This will take some calm, detached, technically sophisticated statutory and legal analysis. It can be done. There are excellent, reputable, technically astute and principled environmental groups who can guide sincere but un-trained grass-roots activists through the labyrinth. Just pick someone capable, mature and responsible. No flashy grandstanders or messiahs. And john Jenkel should not be on the planning committee. This isn't a rescue John Jenkel campaign. It's a rational, mature restore community, justice and environment campaign. (If you want it to succeed, that is.)
This may not win any money back for Jenkel from Hobbs. Making Jenkel whole may or may not be achievable. If so, that needs to be a completely separate endeaver, with different advocates and players. I doubt it's winnable, with a client who is as fiecely contemptuous of the court and suspicious of potential allies as Jenkel is. But people can try.
Reforming the Right to Farm ordinance definitely can't and won't bring a murdered sacred grove of redwoods back to life. For that shameful crime against nature and community we have to grieve, let our pain solidify our determination, and move forward.
I hope among the talented and committed people posting to this thread, some will develop a corrective amendment to the Right to Farm initiative and get it enacted. If you do I'll be cheering from the sidelines. while I fight some different struggles that have already claimed my attention and energy.
God bless and good luck. God bless Jenkel. He's hurting and he's been wronged.
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Peace seeker;it does not sound like you want to know the truth or seek peace! If you don't belive what I have wrote go find out for yourself! Please do not discredit my complete and honest assessment of the facts! Ten years next door and you know things! P~E~A~C~E !
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Hey, wait a minute, Lady!
At least they were well-written shit-storms!
And this is not one of the them (you and beloved iconoclast, Mykil, not withstanding!).
This is what we are here for...
Please continue....
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Very well put!
WELL PUT AND RIGHTLY SAID, GREENBUDDY
I have other priorities, so I'm not available to implement or be part of any campaign myself. For those who are, here is a possible suggestion:
Use the sad and ugly reality of what's happened, as a major exhibit, in a public campaign to amend (NOT repeal) the Right to Farm ordinance.
Real farmers DO have many legitimate grievances. Big problems are created for farmers when sentimental suburbanites move in around them who can't stand the smell of manure, or think farmers shouldn't plow if doing so makes a dust cloud. Or who expect farmers to pay for road resurfacing that gives beamers and CRVs a smooth ride.
It's not the existence of farm protections which is the culprit here. It's the astroturfing agri-business lobbyists that hijacked the cause of the real farmer to blow a loophole in environmental protection and community accountability. The ordinance needs to be amended to be and do what it claims, while kicking speculative profiteers off the bus.
Real farmers are facing an economic crisis that makes their livelihoods and traditional lives impossible. There SHOULD be protections for them. Whatever portions of the Right to Farm ordinance provide valid protections for those actual farmers need to be preserved. Any campaign to modify the ordinance needs to be clear about that. As a matter of justice, and as a matter of electoral tactics. Better yet, add some new, stronger protections for real farmers that can't be hijacked and deformed in ways that arrogant scheming wine profiteers and other investor-gamers can't misuse to circumvent environmental protections and rape our Mother.
This will take some calm, detached, technically sophisticated statutory and legal analysis. It can be done. There are excellent, reputable, technically astute and principled environmental groups who can guide sincere but un-trained grass-roots activists through the labyrinth. Just pick someone capable, mature and responsible. No flashy grandstanders or messiahs. And john Jenkel should not be on the planning committee. This isn't a rescue John Jenkel campaign. It's a rational, mature restore community, justice and environment campaign. (If you want it to succeed, that is.)
This may not win any money back for Jenkel from Hobbs. Making Jenkel whole may or may not be achievable. If so, that needs to be a completely separate endeaver, with different advocates and players. I doubt it's winnable, with a client who is as fiecely contemptuous of the court and suspicious of potential allies as Jenkel is. But people can try.
Reforming the Right to Farm ordinance definitely can't and won't bring a murdered sacred grove of redwoods back to life. For that shameful crime against nature and community we have to grieve, let our pain solidify our determination, and move forward.
I hope among the talented and committed people posting to this thread, some will develop a corrective amendment to the Right to Farm initiative and get it enacted. If you do I'll be cheering from the sidelines. while I fight some different struggles that have already claimed my attention and energy.
God bless and good luck. God bless Jenkel. He's hurting and he's been wronged.
Would all of you, in person at the next Board of Supervisors meeting (Tue. June 7th), or by letter, phone, fax; make a request to have the Hobb's/Jenkel issues, along with these right-to-farm issues, be put on their agenda?
Much thanks,
Colleen Fernald
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I drove down our devastated scenic corridor this morning. Judging by the location of the utility poles it seems to me that some of the trees cut down were on Caltrans property. If so, that would mean that the trees belonged to the people of California. Can anyone confirm this?
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The road by Jenkel's (north of the devastation) looks like an access road, probably private property, the firetruck was parked on it when the fire practice was happening.
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in the courts i believe it is possible for anyone to join in, amicus curiae, "friend of the court"
trying to find time to locate a law firm (with some pro bono work to do) to review everything in hope of finding grounds for an appeal. (As a friend of the people here.)
was thinking Mr. Jenkel's thought pattern could be something as simple as blocked or semi-blocked carotid arteries (not enough O2 to the brain). Mr. Jenkel's quote in the press democrat last week, "I want my land back." is completely clear and well said.
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"YOUR SONOMA COUNTY GRAND JURY"
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Dear Community:
Here follows a cleaned-up text, sans spaces, of the very important Information about the process of public participation in the social adventure of the formation and edification of the Social Entity known as the Grand Jury, information that Colleen Fernald, Peace Voyager was very gracious to share, for our mutual and collective Information and Imagination...
It is very important information, so I thought you ought to be able to see it twice in this thread, without the distracting spaces which, wouldn’t you know it, often get inserted into the text, when an especially important piece of Information is being transmitted electronically on the Internet these days. Here follows the Treatment:
- Mark Walter Evans
YOUR SONOMA COUNTY GRAND JURY
https://sonoma.courts.ca.gov/info/ad...ion/grand-jury
File your complaint here...
https://sonoma.courts.ca.gov/sites/al...complaint1.pdf
“Watchdog” . . . “Ombuds Agency” . . . “Forum of Last Resort” . . . all of these terms correctly describe the Grand Jury. Under State law the Grand Jury is an independent institution that oversees the legislative and administrative departments that make up county, city and special district governments. The Grand Jury has the power to investigate them to ensure that they are efficient, honest, fair and dedicated to serving the public and individual citizens.
Many people associate grand juries with indictments in criminal cases, perhaps because the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution provides that no person can be prosecuted for a federal crime except upon indictment by a grand jury. Today in California there are two types of grand juries, civil and criminal. They are separate bodies and are governed by different rules. In Sonoma County, criminal grand juries are rarely used, because alternative methods are available to the District Attorney to bring criminal charges. This brochure describes the civil Grand Jury.
HISTORY
The civil grand jury is an ancient institution. In England, the Magna Carta decreed by King John in 1215 provided for the election of 25 barons who were given the responsibility “to maintain and cause to be observed, the peace and privileges which we [the King] have granted to them.” They had the power to investigate misconduct by the King’s officials and “to distrain and oppress” the King by taking his “castles, lands and possessions ... until amends have been made according to their judgment.” California has used grand juries since it became a state, and every county has a civil grand jury, although they are not so powerful as the barons composing England’s civil grand jury.
CITIZEN COMPLAINTS
Any individual who feels unfairly treated by the county, a city or a special district, or who believes that any agency, or any officer or employee thereof, is acting improperly, may file a written complaint with the Sonoma County Grand Jury. All complaints are held in strict confidence. Complaint forms may be obtained by calling the Grand Jury at 707-537-6330. Completed forms should be mailed to P.O. Box 5109, Santa Rosa, CA 95402. (Only the Grand Jury has access to this postal box.)
FUNCTION AND OPERATION
The principal function of the Grand Jury is to exercise oversight of all aspects of county and city government and special districts within Sonoma County to ensure that the best interests of its citizens are being served.
Although investigations are usually begun on the basis of citizen complaints, the Grand Jury also acts on its own initiative. A minimum of 12 of the 19 Grand Jurors must authorize the undertaking of an investigation. In conducting its investigations, the Grand Jury is authorized to:
· Inspect and audit books, financial expenditures of county and city departments and special districts to ensure that public funds are properly accounted for and legally spent.
· Inquire into conditions of jails and the treatment of inmates.
· Inquire into the performance of any county, city, or special district public official or employee.
The Sonoma County Grand Jury has four standing committees that carry out authorized investigations: Law and Justice, Human Services, County, and Cities and Special Districts. Ad hoc committees are created as circumstances warrant. Under the supervision of the full Grand Jury, the committees interview and in some cases obtain sworn testimony from witnesses.
The committees also evaluate the procedures, methods, and systems used by the various agencies to determine whether they are conducting their operations in a fair, efficient and economical manner and in compliance with applicable laws and regulations. They then prepare draft reports of the results of their investigations for consideration by the full Grand Jury.
SECRECY
By law Grand Jurors are prohibited from disclosing the evidence obtained in their investigations and revealing the names of complainants or witnesses. Similarly, witnesses are prohibited from disclosing any proceedings of the Grand Jury.
GRAND JURY REPORTS
The results of most Sonoma County Grand Jury investigations are contained in reports that set forth findings concerning the problems investigated and make recommendations for solutions. These documents are published either as Interim Reports during the year or in the Grand Jury’s Final Report at the expiration of its term of office. A minimum of 12 of the 19 Grand Jurors must approve the content of any report. Once approved, all reports are reviewed by County Counsel and the Presiding Judge for compliance with the law before being released to the public.
By law, the governing body of any agency that is the subject of a Grand Jury report must comment on the findings and recommendations of the report within 90 days of its publication date, except that every elected county officer or agency head must comment within 60 days. The comments must be submitted to the Presiding Judge and must specify what action, if any, has been or will be taken by the department or agency in regard to the recommendations or explain why no action has been taken. This requirement gives the sitting Grand Jury or its successor the opportunity to track the results of investigations.
Copies of the Final Report of the Sonoma County Grand Jury are distributed in July as an insert of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat and are sent to the regional branches of the Sonoma County Library. Additional copies may be obtained by calling the Grand Jury at 707-537-6330.
GUIDANCE
The Grand Jury may call upon the following officials for advice and guidance in discharging its responsibilities:
· The Presiding Judge of the Superior Court for any type of advice and counsel it deems necessary for its efficient functioning.
· The County Counsel in connection with its operation and the rights, duties and obligations of grand jurors generally.
· The District Attorney in connection with possible criminal conduct uncovered in the course of an investigation.
TIME COMMITMENT
In Sonoma County, the full Grand Jury usually meets weekly throughout the year at its offices in the county’s Los Guilicos facility. In addition to those meetings, the committees of the Grand Jury meet as required, and their members spend additional time interviewing witnesses and reviewing documents. Typically, Grand Jury membership involves a time commitment of some portion of two or three days a week.
SELECTION
The Sonoma County Grand Jury is composed of 19 members selected annually under the supervision of the Presiding Judge of the Sonoma County Superior Court with the assistance of the court’s Administrative Office. By law, a Grand Juror must be a U.S. citizen 18 years of age or older, a resident of Sonoma County for at least one year, have knowledge of the English language, and have no convictions for malfeasance in office or any felony or any other high crime. In addition to meeting the statutory requirements, a Grand Juror should:
· Be able to fulfill the time commitment required to be an effective Grand Juror.
· Be in good health.
· Have the ability to work with others and be tolerant of their views
· Have a genuine interest in community affairs.
· Have investigative skills and an ability to write reports.
Each spring, applications for the new Grand Jury are solicited from the public. (Application forms may be obtained at the Administrative Office of the Sonoma County Courts, 600 Administration Drive, Room 107-J, Santa Rosa, CA 95403, telephone 707-527-1160.) From the applicant pool, the judges of the Superior Court nominate 30 prospective Grand Jurors. In addition, several members of the existing Grand Jury are selected to serve another one year term in order to provide institutional continuity.
The prospective Grand Jurors are summoned to appear before the Presiding Judge of the Superior Court in a public session. At this time, the clerk of the court draws individual names at random. They are added to the holdover members until a total of 19 is reached; that body constitutes the Grand Jury for the next fiscal year. All 19 members then take the oath of office and are “charged” by the Presiding Judge concerning their duties and responsibilities. These citizens begin their one-year term in July.
ORIENTATION
New members of the Grand Jury participate in a comprehensive orientation and training program organized by the holdover members. This program includes a review of investigative procedures, techniques of report writing, visits to county and city facilities, and meetings with various county and city administrators and law enforcement officers, as well as members of the previous Grand Jury.
WHY BECOME A GRAND JUROR?
Those who serve on the Sonoma County Grand Jury feel privileged to be selected. They enter their service with interest and curiosity in learning more about the administration and operation of the government in the county in which they live. They give generously of their time for the betterment of government which, ultimately, belongs to them and to their fellow citizens of Sonoma County.
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Here's some more information from the Sonoma County Grand Jury website: https://sonoma.courts.ca.gov/info/ad...ion/grand-jury - Barry
Sonoma County Civil Grand Jury
Email: [email protected]
Mail: PO BOX 5109, Santa Rosa, CA 95402
(707) 565-6330
www.sonomagrandjury.org
GRAND JURY INFORMATION
Video: Your Grand Jury at Work
Your interest in serving on the Sonoma County Civil Grand Jury is sincerely appreciated. Before submitting it, it may be helpful for you to understand what is involved, and how the Grand Jury is selected. For more information, please read the information included in the Grand Jury Application Form. This form can be filled in online and printed.
Please note: the deadline to submit an application for the 2011/2012 Grand Jury has passed. However, if you are interested in applying to serve on the 2012/2013 panel, please feel free to forward an application to the address listed.
Final Reports and Final Responses
- Sonoma County Grand Jury Informational Brochure
- Your Sonoma County Grand Jury Operational Summary
- El Gran Jurado del Condado de Sonoma esde Usted
- Request to be a Grand Juror
- Citizens Complaint Form-English
- Formulario de Reclamo por un Ciudadano – Confidencial
Grand Jury 2010-2011
Individual Interim Reports 2010-2011
Grand Jury 2009-2010
Final Report 2009-2010
Individual Final Reports and Responses 2009-2010
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[Here's John Jenkel's latest "Abuse News". In it he outlines various issues with the legal proceedings that ended up with the confiscation of his land. - Barry]
JOHN JENKEL
Desecrated Splinterbar Horse Farm
P. O. Box 1822, Sebastopol, California 95473
Phone: 707-823-7083, E-mail: [email protected]
June 4, 2011 (Abuse News #4818)
The Honorable Kamala Harris,
Attorney General of the $153.6 billion dysfunctional and $151.9 billion congressionally robbed State of 37.6 million congressionally betrayed and over 643 congressionally murdered Californians, in care of the Victim's Services Unit, California Attorney General's Office, P.O. Box 944255, Sacramento, California, 94344-2550, Phone 887-433-9069
Dear Madam:
1. I am one of 16 at all times mentioned inclusive victims of 16 crimes listed in Point 111 of the attached CROSS COMPLAINT TO SET ASIDE CONSTITUTIONALLY DEFECTIVE JUDGMENTS; TO QUIET TITLE ON CONSTITUTIONAL GROUNDS; FOR RESTITUTION; AND FOR DAMAGES FROM DESECRATION.
2. I am not able to get local legislative recognition of these 16 crimes or local executive enforcement against these 16 crimes from public officers in my County of Sonoma because all local public officers claim each crime "is a court matter." Please issue an opinion that the legislative and executive branches of a county government are equally empowered and have duties separate from the judicial branch to see that all laws of the $153.6 billion dysfunctional and $151.9 billion congressionally robbed State of 37.6 million congressionally betrayed and over 643 congressionally murdered Californians are faithfully executed.
3. Please issue an opinion that all public officers in all three coequal and independent branches of government in California are bound by their Oaths of Office and are paid under public contracts to see that the laws of the $153.6 billion dysfunctional and $151.9 billion congressionally robbed State of 37.6 million congressionally betrayed and over 643 congressionally murdered Californians are faithfully executed.
4. It is impossible for me to defend myself in civil court because I have been declared to be a vexatious litigant even though I have never been a plaintiff. Please issue an opinion that no defendant, respondent, or petitioner is a vexatious litigant.
5. I was denied several scheduled critical civil court appearances in Sonoma County because I did not call to reserve court time by 4:00 p.m. the day before a scheduled court hearing. Please issue an opinion that no litigant may be required to reserve time for a scheduled court hearing.
6. I am assessed damages of $320,158.00 by California judicial officer Gary Nadler as one of 16 at all times mentioned inclusive defendants in groundless California Superior Court tort-turned-winery-land-grab/desecration Case SCV-238697. Please issue an opinion that no single defendant may be targeted in a case where codefendants are at all times mentioned equally inclusive.
7. I was assessed damages of $320,158.00 by California judicial officer Gary Nadler in groundless California Superior Court tort-turned-winery-land-grab/desecration Case SCV-238697 while prevented from confronting witnesses and examining evidence against me. Please issue an opinion that no damages can be awarded to a plaintiff following a hearing in which defendants are prevented from defending themselves.
8. I am assessed damages of $90,676.75 in groundless California Superior Court mandamus-turned-winery-land-grab/desecration Case SCV-238698 by California judicial officer Robert S. Boyd as one of 16 coequal respondents in a mandamus action without benefit of any hearing. Please issue an opinion that damages may not be awarded to any petitioner in any action to compel performance.
9. I am assessed damages of $90,676.75 in groundless California Superior Court mandamus-turned-winery-land-grab/desecration Case SCV-238698 by California judicial officer Robert S. Boyd as one of 16 coequal respondents in a mandamus action without benefit of a hearing. Please issue an opinion that damages may not be assessed against any adverse party without benefit of a hearing.
10. There have been several court orders unilaterally issued by California judicial officer Dean A. Beaupré apparently to destroy me, 'da 9-11 Bounty Hunter, and my all too effective 9-11 Truth Campaign that exposes the Enron-sponsored organized crimes of 9-11, 2,798 unplanned murders on 9-11, and mass murder for fascist gain in undeclared war. Judicial traitor Beaupré was assigned by former Supreme Court Chief Justice Ronald M. George under former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger who was an Enron investor. These public officers conspired to issue several orders against me without requests from the opposing parties. Please issue an opinion that California judicial officers have duties to decide disputes under Code of Civil Procedure Section 170 according to constitutional law. Please confirm that unless there is a proposed order by one of the parties to a duly filed dispute, there can be no California Superior Court action to settle or dismiss such dispute.
Naturally, John Jenkel, 'da 9-11 Bounty Hunter
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If you really want to see this thread go viral, there is a simple way to make it happen. We all need to do our bit, though, and take the time to wrack our brains thinking of creative places to post this information all over the internet; each of us doing his or her own bit to see that every newsroom, newspaper, magazine, and internet bulletin board and news-wire in the country – as well as overseas - gets to see these three links:
https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...kel-Property&p=
https://www.pressdemocrat.com/articl...nion/110609844
https://www.ksro.com/Programs/KSROAM...tryID=10243231
That’s the Worm of Ouroboros, right there, kids.
Write your own cover letter in a Word document , and include the links listed above. Just tell the story in your own words and say why you think this a very important story, that everyone needs to know about. Be very recursive, and perfect it, just as if you were writing a one-page cover letter in a Journalism class at Columbia, then send it out, willy-nilly, everywhere, Folks! Send it abroad, to France & the Benelux, as well, Folks.
Post ! Paste ! Post !
People over there in France will lap this up. They love to read about American barbarities, folks. What we really need – and what the Court downtown really needs - is a few reporters from Paris Match, Radio Netherlands, and Deutsch Radio Velte, turning up at Jenkel’s Ranch on hwy 116, covering a sit-down occupation/protest on the desecrated & ripped off property of old man Jenkel.
Hey, Let’s all remember Birmingham, and those sit-down protests of the Civil Rights movement, Folks.
Strike ! Organize! Protest !
Here are several resource Websites and Links that might be of aid in this Quest:
https://www.google.com/search?q=inve...afe=images&tbs=
https://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml
https://lists.indymedia.org/
https://www.info.com/internet%20bill...FQEKbAodZEcVvA
https://www.google.com/search?num=10...&aqi=&aql=&oq=
Someone who feels competent, & up to the task, should contact 60 Minutes, and Pacifica, and every other pseudo-Muckraking outfit that’s still out there, with this story. It’s a very, very vital and important story, Community. It’s like “It Can’t Happen Here.” Wake up.
- Mark Walter Evans
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Filing a complaint with YOUR SONOMA COUNTY GRAND JURY { and what are the details on the water supply that Hobbs will be useing so much of = Who to contact
to protest this ???!!!! } .
File your complaint here...
https://sonoma.courts.ca.gov/sites/al...complaint1.pdf
Any individual who feels unfairly treated by the county, a city or a special district, or who believes that any agency, or any officer or employee thereof, is acting improperly, may file a written complaint with the Sonoma County Grand Jury. All complaints are held in strict confidence. Complaint forms may be obtained by calling the Grand Jury at 707-537-6330.
Could some one clarify how to state this complaint ???!!! Who specifically { an official-agency-employee } are we citing for what particular action { or in-action } ??
With this information we can each properly file this grand jury request for justice . i&we thank you.
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Go to the Horse's Mouth
Perhaps you good people - those who really do care about this Issue, and the fact that an Elder has been abused - quite apart from the fact that the Earth has been raped upon half of his land - should take it in heart and mind to go, and make a personal appearance at John Jenkel's desecrated homestead, and take the time to Visit him, and offer the poor man some - you know - Aid and Comfort.
Does anyone Remember how to do that, any longer; is it a Reflex that we have lost - or perhaps never learned and cultivated?... Never-the-less, it is a Mitzvah, and there is a Blessing involved in actually doing so...
You All know how to get there, don't you? It's not like this thing was done in a Corner now, was it? I repeat, it is a blessing to visit those who are sick and in prison, widows and orphans; the downtrodden and dispossessed, in their afflictions. Christ said so. And so did Buddha, and Krishna, and old man Lao, etc...
- Mark Walter Evans
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Imagine you are the Attorney General and you receive this letter. What do you do with it? Throw it in the circular file where it belongs, of course. I'll say it again, John Jenkel brought all of his misfortune down on himself (and the rest of us) because of his perverse desire to keep getting shot down in flames in a spectacular fashion. When he believes he's right and everyone else is wrong he should know he's not playing with a full deck. Everyone else knows it. Not to defend Hobbs, but he is just using the legal system in a neighbor dispute and is gonna win every time due to Jenkel's right to be a goofy guy who insists on seppuku at every opportunity, If we question Hobbs' morality and ethics, we must also question Jenkel's.[Here's John Jenkel's latest "Abuse News". In it he outlines various issues with the legal proceedings that ended up with the confiscation of his land. - Barry]
JOHN JENKEL
Desecrated Splinterbar Horse Farm
P. O. Box 1822, Sebastopol, California 95473
Phone: 707-823-7083, E-mail: [email protected]
June 4, 2011 (Abuse News #4818)
The Honorable Kamala Harris,
Attorney General of the $153.6 billion dysfunctional and $151.9 billion congressionally robbed State of 37.6 million congressionally betrayed and over 643 congressionally murdered Californians, in care of the Victim's Services Unit, California Attorney General's Office, P.O. Box 944255, Sacramento, California, 94344-2550, Phone 887-433-9069
Dear Madam:
1. I am one of 16 at all times mentioned inclusive victims of 16 crimes listed in Point 111 of the attached CROSS COMPLAINT TO SET ASIDE CONSTITUTIONALLY DEFECTIVE JUDGMENTS; TO QUIET TITLE ON CONSTITUTIONAL GROUNDS; FOR RESTITUTION; AND FOR DAMAGES FROM DESECRATION.
2. I am not able to get local legislative recognition of these 16 crimes or local executive enforcement against these 16 crimes from public officers in my County of Sonoma because all local public officers claim each crime "is a court matter." Please issue an opinion that the legislative and executive branches of a county government are equally empowered and have duties separate from the judicial branch to see that all laws of the $153.6 billion dysfunctional and $151.9 billion congressionally robbed State of 37.6 million congressionally betrayed and over 643 congressionally murdered Californians are faithfully executed.
3. Please issue an opinion that all public officers in all three coequal and independent branches of government in California are bound by their Oaths of Office and are paid under public contracts to see that the laws of the $153.6 billion dysfunctional and $151.9 billion congressionally robbed State of 37.6 million congressionally betrayed and over 643 congressionally murdered Californians are faithfully executed.
4. It is impossible for me to defend myself in civil court because I have been declared to be a vexatious litigant even though I have never been a plaintiff. Please issue an opinion that no defendant, respondent, or petitioner is a vexatious litigant.
5. I was denied several scheduled critical civil court appearances in Sonoma County because I did not call to reserve court time by 4:00 p.m. the day before a scheduled court hearing. Please issue an opinion that no litigant may be required to reserve time for a scheduled court hearing.
6. I am assessed damages of $320,158.00 by California judicial officer Gary Nadler as one of 16 at all times mentioned inclusive defendants in groundless California Superior Court tort-turned-winery-land-grab/desecration Case SCV-238697. Please issue an opinion that no single defendant may be targeted in a case where codefendants are at all times mentioned equally inclusive.
7. I was assessed damages of $320,158.00 by California judicial officer Gary Nadler in groundless California Superior Court tort-turned-winery-land-grab/desecration Case SCV-238697 while prevented from confronting witnesses and examining evidence against me. Please issue an opinion that no damages can be awarded to a plaintiff following a hearing in which defendants are prevented from defending themselves.
8. I am assessed damages of $90,676.75 in groundless California Superior Court mandamus-turned-winery-land-grab/desecration Case SCV-238698 by California judicial officer Robert S. Boyd as one of 16 coequal respondents in a mandamus action without benefit of any hearing. Please issue an opinion that damages may not be awarded to any petitioner in any action to compel performance.
9. I am assessed damages of $90,676.75 in groundless California Superior Court mandamus-turned-winery-land-grab/desecration Case SCV-238698 by California judicial officer Robert S. Boyd as one of 16 coequal respondents in a mandamus action without benefit of a hearing. Please issue an opinion that damages may not be assessed against any adverse party without benefit of a hearing.
10. There have been several court orders unilaterally issued by California judicial officer Dean A. Beaupré apparently to destroy me, 'da 9-11 Bounty Hunter, and my all too effective 9-11 Truth Campaign that exposes the Enron-sponsored organized crimes of 9-11, 2,798 unplanned murders on 9-11, and mass murder for fascist gain in undeclared war. Judicial traitor Beaupré was assigned by former Supreme Court Chief Justice Ronald M. George under former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger who was an Enron investor. These public officers conspired to issue several orders against me without requests from the opposing parties. Please issue an opinion that California judicial officers have duties to decide disputes under Code of Civil Procedure Section 170 according to constitutional law. Please confirm that unless there is a proposed order by one of the parties to a duly filed dispute, there can be no California Superior Court action to settle or dismiss such dispute.
Naturally, John Jenkel, 'da 9-11 Bounty Hunter
PS - He requests the AG issue an opinion that nobody can be declared a vexatious litigant? Are you kidding me?
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I can't recall if Bruce Robinson's piece published in the Bohemian has been shared on this thread. When I read it a week or so ago, I found it to be the best summation of this mess that I've seen. Just in case those interested haven't read it, here it is:
https://www.bohemian.com/bohemian/05...nmic-1120.html
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sometimes in communicating with the myriad of people that comprise humanity, it's necessary to actively edit statements (perhaps take in every 20th word)...rapidly see the point the person is trying to make and pass your judgment on those insights.
in this case with Mr. Jenkel don't think it is appropriate to say [this guy's a little off, therefore it's OK to ROB HIM].
the Magna Carta made no such qualifications in its text which is the basis for our justice system.
in my humblest of opinions, this entire matter needs an intelligent, compassionate and fair person to review it in its entirety and a fair resolution MUST be made.
fundamentally Hobbs unjustly enriched himself and seems to have had a lot of gracious help!! we all need to pay attention because if this happened to him, it probably could happen to any one of us. we all had a lovely stretch of the Gravenstein Highway denuded.
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Thanks for this, Miles. One thing I might add that neither Robinson nor several others have taken into account: Hobbs has said that when he took Jenkel's land, there were liens on the land that needed to be paid off. I don't know if this was true, but if so, then he probably paid a lot more for the land than the numbers that have been thrown around. Don't get me wrong; I agree with the tone of Robinson's editorial -- Hobbs appears to be "a well-heeled bully in a three-piece suit ... one smooth operator armed with money, lawyers and an ugly sense of entitlement" -- but those who would fight should get the facts correct.
I can't recall if Bruce Robinson's piece published in the Bohemian has been shared on this thread. When I read it a week or so ago, I found it to be the best summation of this mess that I've seen. Just in case those interested haven't read it, here it is:
https://www.bohemian.com/bohemian/05...nmic-1120.html
Hope this helps.
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liens on land can be recorded by both private and public parties. its hard for me to imagine that jenkel didn't/doesn't have public liens on his land, he is a proud lawscoff.
liens, especially public ones, ie government generated, are negotiatable. if hobbs is really as he claims, he would honestly reveal his process (maybe he got public liens released for letting fire departments torch the houses?). so far all i have seen and heard from hobbs is silence and bs.
Thanks for this, Miles. One thing I might add that neither Robinson nor several others have taken into account: Hobbs has said that when he took Jenkel's land, there were liens on the land that needed to be paid off. I don't know if this was true, but if so, then he probably paid a lot more for the land than the numbers that have been thrown around. Don't get me wrong; I agree with the tone of Robinson's editorial -- Hobbs appears to be "a well-heeled bully in a three-piece suit ... one smooth operator armed with money, lawyers and an ugly sense of entitlement" -- but those who would fight should get the facts correct.
Hope this helps.
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i'll take goofy over greedy any day. granted jenkel has been incapable of handling his own business and this has impacted his neighbor hobbs. how would i like the access of my world class winery to be through a neighbor who can't evict drug addicted squatters? yes this is a tough situation.
hobbs seems to have chosen greed as his guide.
Imagine you are the Attorney General and you receive this letter. What do you do with it? Throw it in the circular file where it belongs, of course. I'll say it again, John Jenkel brought all of his misfortune down on himself (and the rest of us) because of his perverse desire to keep getting shot down in flames in a spectacular fashion. When he believes he's right and everyone else is wrong he should know he's not playing with a full deck. Everyone else knows it. Not to defend Hobbs, but he is just using the legal system in a neighbor dispute and is gonna win every time due to Jenkel's right to be a goofy guy who insists on seppuku at every opportunity, If we question Hobbs' morality and ethics, we must also question Jenkel's.
PS - He requests the AG issue an opinion that nobody can be declared a vexatious litigant? Are you kidding me?
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Here's the response from Whole Foods. They are not going to pull Paul Hobbs wines:Today, I posted two emails to Whole Foods/Sebastopol and Whole Foods/Corporate. (Go to their Website to do email)
Unfortunately, WF/Sebastopol carries two wine products by the infamous Paul Hobbs. WF professes high corporate values, believes in "fair trade" etc. which was my subject when I asked them to STOP selling Paul Hobbs products....
From: Brian Cofran (NC SRS)"a positive participant in our community"???
Subject: Selling Paul Hobbs wines at Whole Foods Market
Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 10:36 AM
First of all, thank you for writing in to our website. We are always happy and interested to hear from our local community. I have done some research on the issue you mentioned (https://www.watchsonomacounty.com/20...nto-his-ranch/) and have found valid points on both sides. Here at Whole Foods Market one of our prime mission statements is to support our local farmers and community. The Paul Hobbs winery employs many locals and is a positive participant in our community. At this time I cannot in good faith make the decision to stop carrying his wines. I hope this decision does not stop you from shopping in our store. You are a valued customer and I hope you continue to value us as well.
Sounds like a boycott and picket in in order!
Whole Foods supports
Paul Hobbs clear cutting![]()
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the grand jury is an interesting strategy to fill a desire for justice in this situation. i have my doubts that a citizen panel with a high requirement for facts and accountability can deal with the history and morality of the jenkel/hobbs dynamic. still its worth a try, just for the grand juries sake.
i choose to tell the tale of neighborly avarice far and wide as i am easily able. hoping hobbs will answer rather than sulk in silence or sheepishly targeted message, what i have heard so far. how about it robert m, father of paul, are you willing to be more than a troll, and speak to the morals of your son?
Filing a complaint with YOUR SONOMA COUNTY GRAND JURY { and what are the details on the water supply that Hobbs will be useing so much of = Who to contact
to protest this ???!!!! } .
File your complaint here...
https://sonoma.courts.ca.gov/sites/al...complaint1.pdf
Any individual who feels unfairly treated by the county, a city or a special district, or who believes that any agency, or any officer or employee thereof, is acting improperly, may file a written complaint with the Sonoma County Grand Jury. All complaints are held in strict confidence. Complaint forms may be obtained by calling the Grand Jury at 707-537-6330.
Could some one clarify how to state this complaint ???!!! Who specifically { an official-agency-employee } are we citing for what particular action { or in-action } ??
With this information we can each properly file this grand jury request for justice . i&we thank you.
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