Barry, thanks for presenting THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY.
I am just wondering if you personally have been led to a reasoned conclusion in the matter.

I think it would be very helpful to research all donations to the BOS from explicit supporters of fluoridation.
"Sunshine" is a better disinfectant than fluoride!

(Activists should be sure to...

I am trying to understand the water fluoridation issue, and I am totally new to it. I don't claim to know anything beyond what I have learned this afternoon, prompted by the previous post. Thank you,...

(Elizabeth here) --

That's a big chunk of change. Even though some of the programs listed might not have been solely dedicated to promoting fluoridation (what did KRCB actually broadcast,...

I emailed each supervisor last night, but wish I could have included this article that just came to me today...from The Lancet Neurology:...

PJ, you are absolutely spot-on that this needs to be a red-line issue for elected officials and candidates at all levels. Along with public employees such as the ones running our county Department of...

After watching this fluoride drama unfold for years now it seems to me that Carrillo and this Lynn Chafin character are in their positions because of the fluoride industry. Carrillo, if he was just a...

And to support you in this:
https://therebel.org/resistance/666083-new-studies-conspiracy-theorists-sane-government-dupes-crazy-hostile?hitcount=0

Recent studies by psychologists and social...

I found this article recently, it concerns the pineal gland and its secret properties, powers, chemical, and spiritual functionality, as well as how to decalcify and cleanse the pineal gland.

I...

Penny VanDerwolk is currently the Director of Development at Sutter Health of Sonoma County. She is a member of the "Fluoridation Advisory Committee" and claims that she submitted this op-ed as a...

From the Sonoma County: No Fluoride page on FaceBook: Check out this great response to Penny Vanderwolk's pro-fluoride piece in the Press Democrat. [Peggy Vanderwolk is also a member of the DHS...

imao...Good question. Good answers...Waccobb readers and posters alone probably don't have the full power to change Efren's vote....Even if everyone on waccobb was against the initiative to...

Someone had written me asking what I thought would be a solution for dental health since I use to be in the field. I thought that proper instructions on brushing and flossing was important to remove...

Lilypads....

Sebastacat is in total agreement with your post. No one is saying that there isn't a problem with dental disease.
But municipal water fluoridation is not the way to tackle this...

thanks to the wonders of digital audio and social media, you can listen to that exchange again and determine for yourself who is "on it" who is "full of it."

Gorin's questions and comments are...

I'm going to add in the cost of that election!

Portland, Eugene, & many other communities in Oregon are aware of how their water source is much purer than average. Whatever people value, they...

Sonoma County's Healthy Beverage Initiative... AND? For now, an "awareness" posting only. From the busy office of DHS. Yes, here it comes, the already expected drive to reduce sugary soda...

Remember Deep Throat, who was living here right under our noses for decades, and his famous advice: "follow the money." It was great advice then, and is great advice now. An accurate and legitimate...

Well, welcome to the Brave New World of the U.N. Agenda 21—

Everyone who opposes fluoridating Sonoma County water you are being Delphied as Rosie Koire, “Behind the Green Mask”, would say. As we...

I just returned from this afternoon's meeting of the Fluoridation Task Force Advisory meeting.
I will have some comments at the end of this post, but after having a highly restrictive one-minute...

Right now the Board is most probably poised to approve judging by public health officer Lynn Silver-Chalfin, the person they picked to sell us the idea.
Its going to take alot of us going to the...

Well. I can't thank you enough, anyone who attends these meetings. Thank you very much.:Clap:I just spoke with my elder cousin in SR and couldn't feel more helpless and infuriated at the moment that...

At the first FAC meeting in May, I was the only member of the public there who spoke during the "public comment" section. Incidentally, there was only one other member of the public there at all -- a...

Lilypads, Thank you, well, yes, but I'm lacking an instinct for that type of more abstract research. Here is a September 2012 Press Democrat article. It's interweaving -- is this the level that...

dzerach.....

No need to apologize or regret! In fact, Sebastacat, being the affable (!) cat that he is, welcomes any corrections made to his posts which will add to the discourse of the day and...

Thanks, Glia, for your inspiring and on-target post. I, too, believe that this is a classic case of an employee who has been given the task of carrying out an unpopular agenda using whatever means...

Thanks again for your insight and taking the time to share with us.

Of course the county BoS need a face-saving way to back out of this mess. Zane needs a winch to get her foot out of her mouth,...

I understand what you're saying and please don't be discouraged, I don't think you are. This will probably sound naive, but my personal opinion for now, where I'm coming from -- these people have...

Thank you for this enlightening, and very disturbing, background.

What is coming through loud and clear from what you have shared here is that the County "health" apparatus is basically in bed...

I wanted people to know how there's another meeting going on behind the scenes. One that is closed. And nested. It's called CHI (Committee for Healthcare Improvement ). It shows Sonoma County...

The County of Sonoma Department of Health Services (DHS) has created a "Fluoridation Advisory Committee" supposedly to make a recommendation regarding adding fluoride to the water provided by SCWA....

The foreword to the Fluoride Fatigue booklet (1418.pdf link below) by Albert Burgstahler, PhD hits the nail on the head:


FOREWORD BY PROFESSOR EMERITUS ALBERT W BURGSTAHLER
This is a vitally...

Problem solved. Good to know!

To LilyPads and dzerach:

I wish to reiterate everything that I said in my post made at 1:53 p.m., but I will add one word:

WOW!

Okay. Sorry. Sebastacat just...

How to "git 'er done!," in your community, which is exactly the approach sups are taking....For now, an excerpt from this same seminal pamphlet? Can't help but share! (Christopher Bryson quoted from...

Lilypads and Sharingwisdom, thank you both for your thorough and well-presented information.

Part of Silver-Chalfin's schtick is to repeatedly describe Sonoma County as "behind the rest of...

When Silver repeatedly spews the canned line that "a fluorine ion in solution is a fluorine ion, and it does not matter where it comes from" she is telling only half the story, which is a lie by...

LilyPads.....

I wish to take this opportunity to sincerely thank you for the incredible amount of time, energy and research which you have been putting into this important and timely topic, which...

Fluorine should not be confused with fluoride, although in the early fluoridation literature the words were used interchangeably. Fluorine is an element. Fluoride denotes that fluorine has...

Well, as I said, I think it's a bit of a rabbit hole to try to trace every way that we could get exposed to fluoridation of our water supply. But since this has become a thread here, I want to...

Thanks all for the passion and concern about this vital topic. And thanks Sebastacat for your kind words about my work. I blush! But really it's nice to see my efforts appreciated.

I am very...

I think there's another dimension to add to this - all this fluoride is going to end up in the environment and I think potentially in all water supplies (individual wells, other water sources, etc.)....

I do not want to ingest ANY fluoridated water, period. No matter where I may chose to travel and alight in other parts of this county, I want to have the assurance at all times that I will not be...

We all agree that fluoridating Sonoma County's public water supply is a terrible idea. Let's not waste our energy quibbling about how much or how little fluoridated water would be ingested by...

Tommy, were you there at the meeting? I was and did not see you. IMO both the title and content of this post are spot-on.

Public employees doing the bidding of the pro-fluoride lobby on the...

Let us not forget those small -- but sometimes forgotten -- words which appear an all tubes of toothpaste containing fluoride:

"If more than used for brushing is accidentally swallowed, get...

Alexia: Thanks for your enlightening and informational post.

What I gleaned from it was that you truly understand the ramifications that enacting this proposal will have on not only the...

22382A little humor -- while seriously putting this controversy into proper perspective?

"Dental hygiene is important for gorillas as well as humans. Not only does Koko know how to brush her...

dzerach:

I agree with you. To my knowledge, there has not been any abscription of evil intent to anyone.
If there had been, perhaps it would have alleviated some of the frustration felt by many...

WOW!!!Thanks so much, Lilypads, for posting one of the finest posts I have ever read since I have been a member of this forum. This should be required reading for the "supes," who "claim" they are...