Ron Paul, Libertarianism and the U.N.

[Valley Oak]

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I believe that big government is good and FDR's New Deal and Social Security are only two excellent examples. You sure do seem hostile to anyone who thinks we should have more government.

There is a HUGE difference between McCain or Ron Paul on the one side and Obama or Clinton on the other side. I will vote for either Obama or Clinton in November.

No, I do not work in government nor will I ever. Government workers are underpaid and disrespected by people like you.

Edward

Yup. I stated an opinion. Never called it a fact. Your point?
Yes, you do have an opinion, too. Whoopee twang... Millions of other Americans voted for Bush, too.

You really think there's a dime's worth of difference between McCain/Clinton/Obama, huh? Do you work in government? You sure do seem hostile to anyone who suggests we should have less of it...

True, dat! Try to keep that in mind.

[handy]

I have edited my original post.
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I believe that big government is good and FDR's New Deal and Social Security are only two excellent examples. You sure do seem hostile to anyone who thinks we should have more government.

There is a HUGE difference between McCain or Ron Paul on the one side and Obama or Clinton on the other side. I will vote for either Obama or Clinton in November.

No, I do not work in government nor will I ever. Government workers are underpaid and disrespected by people like you.

Edward

Okay, so you're essentially a born again Socialist? You really need to read more. Trust me, Ron Paul and John McCain are NOT on the same side. Vote your conscience.

Now your last couple of statements I have to take apart. Given the first statement, "No, I do not work in government nor will I ever.", then the first part of the second statement, "Government workers are underpaid-" is utter propaganda/nonsense/ idiocy. HOW, exactly, would YOU know?

But the last part, "and disrespected by people like you", shows the lack of courtesy, and inability to remain civil through a conversation that marks the true socialist, meanly attempting to belittle what he cannot comprehend.

My wife works for a city government. I have 10 years experience administering subsidized housing. I am also a VietNam veteran, and have seen government get FUBAR. So see if you can pick up your little turd of ignorance regarding what you know about my sense of respect, and put it back where it belongs.

Enjoy life.

[Valley Oak]

Barry, I would like to flag this inappropriate post for being very disrespectful. The poster could have made his point without the blatant insults.

Edward

Okay, so you're essentially a born again Socialist? You really need to read more. Trust me, Ron Paul and John McCain are NOT on the same side. Vote your conscience.

Now your last couple of statements I have to take apart. Given the first statement, "No, I do not work in government nor will I ever.", then the first part of the second statement, "Government workers are underpaid-" is utter propaganda/nonsense/ idiocy. HOW, exactly, would YOU know?

But the last part, "and disrespected by people like you", shows the lack of courtesy, and inability to remain civil through a conversation that marks the true socialist, meanly attempting to belittle what he cannot comprehend.

My wife works for a city government. I have 10 years experience administering subsidized housing. I am also a VietNam veteran, and have seen government get FUBAR. So see if you can pick up your little turd of ignorance regarding what you know about my sense of respect, and put it back where it belongs.

Enjoy life.

[handy]

Barry, I would like to flag this inappropriate post for being very disrespectful. The poster could have made his point without the blatant insults.

Edward

So, in lieu of civil discourse, and without knowing me, you accuse me of disrespecting government workers. That was the initial discourtesy and the first thinly veiled insult.

You're correct; I have no respect for someone making such an unfounded accusation. I merely tossed it back in your face. Somehow this becomes "blatant insults"? And you have to run to Mommy (Barry) to whine?

It's okay little valley acorn. Now that I see how thin skinned and self righteous you seem to be, I won't bother with any further attempts at conversation with you.

Have fun. Be careful. Enjoy life. Goodbye.

[OrchardDweller]

here's another great installment of Dr. Paul putting Fed chairman Bernanke in the hot seat.

Ron Paul Berates Bernanke at Joint Economic Committee 04/02/08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbi-0Tg1b_g

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini

[Valley Oak]

Now that I've put 'handy' on my ignore list, I have this to say:

Ron Paul would be almost everyone's nightmare if he ever became president, including those who helped him get there. In many regards, Paul would be like Bush on steroids and have a deplorably destructive public policy.

Extremists like Ron Paul are reckless and irresponsible and will NEVER become president. They don't stand a chance precisely because they are crazies with crackpot policies in mind that would ruin this nation even further. Only other crackpots follow him.

Either Obama or Clinton will be the next president of the United States with my vote and the votes of millions of Americans who know better.

Edward

I have edited my original post.
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I believe that big government is good and FDR's New Deal and Social Security are only two excellent examples. You sure do seem hostile to anyone who thinks we should have more government.

There is a HUGE difference between McCain or Ron Paul on the one side and Obama or Clinton on the other side. I will vote for either Obama or Clinton in November.

No, I do not work in government nor will I ever. Government workers are underpaid and disrespected by people like you.

Edward

[Lenny]

So see if you can pick up your little turd of ignorance regarding what you know about my sense of respect, and put it back where it belongs.
Enjoy life.

Toothpaste/tube: return.

Ouch.

But I do admire the Post Office. I worked for them as a youth for about 2 years, until the draft. The AMOUNT of stuff and speed we get it (generally) is truly remarkable.

[Valley Oak]

Lenny is also on my ignore list. Now I don't have his diatribe vomited all over me anymore either.

Edward

Now that I've put 'handy' on my ignore list, I have this to say:

Ron Paul would be almost everyone's nightmare if he ever became president, including those who helped him get there. In many regards, Paul would be like Bush on steroids and have a deplorably destructive public policy.

Extremists like Ron Paul are reckless and irresponsible and will NEVER become president. They don't stand a chance precisely because they are crazies with crackpot policies in mind that would ruin this nation even further. Only other crackpots follow him.

Either Obama or Clinton will be the next president of the United States with my vote and the votes of millions of Americans who know better.

Edward

[handy]

Ron Paul, Before the Joint Economic Committee, April 2, 2008: Hearing on "The Economic Outlook"

https://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul451.html

[cdegenhardt]

you are right, our economy can not afford to loose the cheap slavery work force!!!
9 trillion dollars went to Mexico???????????????
I like it how you juxtaposed those two together
if RonPaul is as crooked as your thinking, he deserve to loose

would it be possible to elaborate on your facts??

this is like a voluntary tax, right?
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this is a bunch of hogwash.
the rich pay less taxes than the poor
does Ron know about this??????

what things?
as far as I know, only one person voted against the war!
a black woman!!!
that is very beneficial for rich republicans
not many others will benefit from this candidate!!!!!!

Actually, a total of seven (7) people voted against the war that I know of. Ron Paul was, in fact, one of them. Barack Obama was another, along with the very bright and principled "Black Woman" from Berkely and four others. Ron Paul is actually very bright about financial issues and warned about the potential for our current financial situation some time ago. He's quite the straight arrow, very principled. He also understands commodities and stocks and credit amazingly well - far better than out current Treasury Director it seems. And he really is far more Libertarian in his leanings that Republican - a good thing as far as I'm concerned. All that said, I can't vote for him. He's just no where near "un" Republican enough for me.

[d-cat]

Actually, a total of seven (7) people voted against the war that I know of. Ron Paul was, in fact, one of them. Barack Obama was another...

Are you sure about Obama? Got a link?

Because Obama votes for funding the war (like McCain), according to Fact Check:

https://www.factcheck.org/elections-...p_support.html

Ron Paul is actually very bright about financial issues and warned about the potential for our current financial situation some time ago. He's quite the straight arrow, very principled. He also understands commodities and stocks and credit amazingly well - far better than out current Treasury Director it seems. And he really is far more Libertarian in his leanings that Republican - a good thing as far as I'm concerned. All that said, I can't vote for him. He's just no where near "un" Republican enough for me.

I prefer content over a label. But Ron Paul is not in the race anymore. He's busy with a Revolution.