Are you hopeful and excited about getting Pfitzer's vaccine?

[M/M]

People are scared and abandon truth-tellers quickly... Vanessa Beeley has more integrity in small finger - let alone her reporting - than most. She however was hosting articles by someone else et cetera.
https://thewallwillfall.org/2021/01/23/

after that link: type in:BioNTech-vaccine if that remains in web address, it should bring you to article.
Makia also wrote this: https://www.globalresearch.ca/mrna-c...accine/5734464

[geomancer]

I'm not naming anyone, but there are several people on WACCO who are pushing Russian-style disinformation to the effect that the vaccines are more dangerous than the virus. You are doing active harm to the body politic. Meanwhile, the crematoria in LA are burning overtime under relaxed air-pollution rules.

"All from air, into air
Let the misty curtains part,
All is ended, all is done,
What has been must now be gone . . ."

Party on dudes, party on.

[M/M]

pushing Russian-style disinformation to the effect that the vaccines are more dangerous than the virus. You are doing active harm to the body politic

We are each entitled to believe what Life has taught and continues to teach us. I sure hope that we'll all know very soon what is fact and big-R Reality...

The division, tension, blame, accusations of 'harm' -- when discussing ideas -- are hardly 'fun' or a 'party'... for me anyway; and I believe views contrary to yours et al are also posted in an effort to prevent harm..

[pamelaL]

I would not say the virus is more dangerous than the vaccine, but I would say the virus can be treated because I've seen that with mine own eyes. I would also say it is very likely prevented altogether with a combination of simple supplements anyone can get OTC. Whether or not the chronic fall-out from a memoryRNA "vaccine" can be ameliorated later is a total unknown. The reported sequela from the virus is something I have not yet seen demonstrated as well, not even in the covid positive patients we have treated. I am skeptical of all things governed by the profiteers....

I did read a study of patients who became ill enough with covid they were hospitalized, and those with Vitamin D levels 30 and above never got so acute they needed ICU, while those with low levels did. As far as incinerating bodies in LA goes, I have not heard that on the news, but I do not subscribe to media that is funded by pharma. It is sad that the profiteers have so undermined our health care system; sadder still that fear has been so promulgated in our culture, and businesses are shuttering on main streets all over the world. Be patient and wait for the better vaccine if you seek a vaccine is still my best advice, and good luck.

[caromia333]

here's the deaths and injuries so far from the vaccine

https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/fi...NA&VAX=COVID19

[Goat Rock Ukulele]

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines DO NOT HACK YOUR CELLS DNA!!! Contrary to assertions, it won’t turn you or anyone else into a GMO. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm, where the ribosomes are. It does not enter the nucleus and cannot interact with your DNA or cause any changes to the genome. That cell destroys the mRNA after it has been read. There are viruses that can attach to your DNA and damage it (HPV, HIV are a few) Covid is not one of them nor are the vaccines.

There is a lot of BS info being posted about these two vaccines. About .....oh no mRNA. Guess what most vaccines use mRNA. The J & J vaccine uses a cold virus AD26 to insert DNA stands into certain of your cells. Those DNA strands produce mRNA which instructs the machinery of that cell to produce the spikes of Covid-19. Is this better or are you going to be terrified of that as well? Or what about the Astra Zeneca/ Oxford vaccine. They use a chimpanzee virus to inject the portion of Covid RNA that produces the mRNA that in turn causes your cells to produce the spiked protein.

The major difference between the Pfizer, Moderna and J&J vaccine (next one coming) is the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines do not use a virus to insert the mRNA instructions into certain of your muscle cells they use fatty acids to attach to muscle cells in your arm. They also skip the step of inserting the DNA strands that produce the mRNA.

One should keep in mind that Covid and every virus you have ever had that you are aware of and the hundreds you likely were unaware of because they didn't make you sick use mRNA to replicate in your cells. The difference between the virus and the vaccines is the virus can replicated a complete version of itself in your cells and the vaccines can not and are limited by dose and ability to only replicate the virus spikes.

[geomancer]

FYI, Pamela. I've also read that the mortality rate for severe COVID-19 has doubled because the glut of patients has stressed the health-care system to the breaking point.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...aths-skyrocket

Cremation Limits Lifted In LA Due To 'Backlog' As COVID-19 Deaths Skyrocket

The South Coast Air Quality Management District said in a press release Sunday that it is suspending certain permit conditions for crematoriums at the request of the county's medical-examiner coroner and public health department. Crematorium permits typically carry limits based on potential air quality impacts, but can be suspended during a state of emergency.

"The current rate of death is more than double that of pre-pandemic years, leading to hospitals, funeral homes, and crematoriums exceeding capacity without the ability to process the backlog of cases," officials said.
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As of Jan. 15, more than 2,700 bodies were being stored at hospitals and the coroner's office, according to the order. It adds that the county's 28 crematoriums have the "resources and capability" to perform more cremations than regulatory limits allow.

[pamelaL]

Unfortunately, the vaers database is woefully inadequate regarding reported vaccine injuries; to wit, people dying 18 days after the administration of the vaccine that are not considered related to the vaccine.The following is from Kennedy's The Defender January 24th issue: it is free to anyone who wants to subscribe; news that is generally censored by the main stream, and has taken a clear turn to positive headlines since the admin. change in this country.
As health officials strive to brush off as “coincidences” the mounting number of deaths and other serious adverse reactions occurring worldwide in connection with Pfizer’s and Moderna’s experimental mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, the need for independent scrutiny of vaccine safety data has never been more apparent.
A new peer-reviewed study about adverse events following immunization (AEFI) and the measles-mumps-rubella-varicella (MMRV) vaccine brings home the urgent need for independent research.
The study, published by two northern Italian researchers on an open access platform suggests that most existing safety monitoring systems, whether in Italy or the U.S., are “utterly inadequate to document the real incidence of serious AEFIs and that current methods of assessing [vaccine-related] causality may be questioned.”
The study also reveals how an unbiased reanalysis of adverse event data puts the lie to the “reassuring conclusions” officials like to disseminate about vaccine safety.
Scrutinizing the existing data

Italy made MMRV vaccination compulsory for young children in 2017. In their 2021 open access study, Italian researchers Paolo Bellavite and Alberto Donzelli indirectly assess the impact of this policy by examining the incidence of MMRV-related AEFI as reported to or studied by Italy’s pharmacovigilance system.
Bellavite and Donzelli note that while Italy’s vaccine surveillance “is mainly of the ‘passive’ type” (characterized, as in the U.S., by vast underreporting), it also includes occasional “active vigilance” studies.
Bellavite and Donzelli summarize the findings of one such study, conducted in the region of Apulia in 2017 and 2018. The Apulia study’s university- and health-department-based researchers asked the parents of more than 2,500 children to keep diaries for three weeks post-MMRV-vaccination. The researchers then followed up with phone calls and review of relevant hospitalization records.
The Apulia researchers detected 992 post-MMRV adverse events among the 2,149 children for whom they were able to complete the three-week telephone follow-up — an AEFI reporting rate of 462 events per 1000 enrolled children. One hundred nine of the 992 adverse events (11%) met World Health Organization (WHO) criteria classifying them as “serious,” meaning fatal or life-threatening; requiring intervention or hospitalization; or causing persistent disability or incapacity.
The most common serious adverse events experienced by young MMRV recipients in Apulia were hyperpyrexia (very high fever in excess of 106°F — a medical emergency), neurological symptoms (including balance disorders and agitation), gastrointestinal problems and thrombocytopenia (abnormally low platelet levels). All of the adverse events are listed as side effects in the package insert for the Merck-manufactured MMRV vaccine (brand name ProQuad) as well as in the inserts for a number of other childhood and adult vaccines. (Notably, the healthy 56-year-old Florida doctor who recently died after getting Pfizer’s mRNA COVID-19 vaccine developed an ultimately fatal form of thrombocytopenia three days after vaccination.)
The MMRV insert also lists dozens of other post-vaccination reactions, including anaphylaxis, febrile seizures, muscle and joint pain, arthritis, bleeding disorders, autoimmune problems and serious infections, including both measles and varicella (chickenpox)!
The next step for the Apulia investigators was to apply the WHO’s causality assessment algorithm to their findings. According to the inflexible and somewhat paradoxical WHO criteria, “Only reactions that have previously been acknowledged in epidemiological studies to be caused by the vaccine are classified as a vaccine-product-related-reaction. New serious adverse reactions that emerge post-licensure “are labelled as ‘coincidental deaths/events’ or ‘unclassifiable.’”
Even so, the Apulia study showed that 82 of 109 serious adverse reactions displayed a causal association “consistent with MMRV immunization.” This translates to 38 serious adverse events per 1,000 children enrolled — or one in 26.
In the U.S., which relies almost exclusively on passive surveillance, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) has received 13,382 reports of MMRV-related adverse events since the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved ProQuad in 2005 — an average of 836 reported incidents annually over the 16 years.
VAERS classifies roughly one in 20 of these (4.7%) as “serious,” including 19 deaths. Over the same time frame (that is, since 2005), VAERS accumulated another 40,070 reports of adverse events following MMR vaccination (2,500 annually on average), with one in 10 categorized as serious.
A 2016 FDA study that looked at 204 VAERS reports (through 2014) for infants who, largely due to “vaccination errors,” received the MMR or MMRV vaccines before nine months of age (rather than at the recommended 12 to 15 months of age) found that nearly one in six of the reported adverse events (17%) were serious.
Critiquing the spin

Knowledgeable experts have roundly criticized the WHO algorithm for being biased toward rejecting vaccine-related causality (describing the algorithm as being “not fit for purpose”).
Thus, the fact that there was one serious WHO-confirmed adverse event for every 26 enrolled children should have been extremely noteworthy.
Apparently, the Apulia researchers did not think so. As Bellavite and Donzelli note, though the Apulia study was unique in applying WHO causality assessment methods to comprehensive active surveillance data, the investigators vastly downplayed their own results, describing serious AEFIs as “absolutely rare” and reporting that “the active surveillance program confirmed and reinforced the safety profile of the [MMRV] vaccine.”
Bellavite and Donzelli dispute this tame characterization of the Apulia findings, explaining the following:

• An AEFI rate of 38 per 1000 — one in 26 — should appropriately be classified as “common” rather than “absolutely rare.”
• Apulia’s active surveillance data, when compared with Italian health authorities’ passive surveillance data, show a MMRV-related rate of serious AEFIs “hundreds of times higher than expected.”
• Comparing the serious AEFIs that showed a consistent MMRV-related causal association (as per the WHO algorithm) to the Italian Medicines Agency’s passive surveillance data reveals an even greater “977 times difference.”
• The frequency of serious, MMRV-related neurological and gastrointestinal symptoms identified through active surveillance — which stands out in comparison to the incidence documented in the literature and passive surveillance systems — should be interpreted as a safety signal.
• Projecting the AEFI rate of 38 per 1000 onto an Italian birth cohort would yield “tens of thousands of serious AEFIs.”

In the U.S., the FDA and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention researchers maintain that neither the MMR nor MMRV vaccines display “any major safety concerns,” despite the thousands of adverse events reported each year and the vast iceberg of additional adverse reactions that go unreported.

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U.S. regulators’ nonchalance is further contradicted by a U.S. government study estimating that one of every 39 vaccines administered results in vaccine injury.
Bellavite and Donzelli also call attention to other considerations typically ignored or overlooked by researchers for whom a “confirmed” vaccine safety profile is the a priori conclusion — considerations that are as pertinent in the U.S. as they are in Italy. For example:

• Studies focusing on vaccine-related adverse events should take into account each and all rounds of vaccination. The Apulia research was limited to reactions following the first MMRV injection only.
• Vaccine safety surveillance rarely (if ever) accounts for administration of multiple vaccines at one time, yet the same-day injection of the MMRV and hepatitis A vaccines in Italy — and multiple combination vaccines in one healthcare visit in the U.S. — could be a factor contributing to elevated AEFI rates.
• In persons with underlying genetic susceptibilities or a concomitant infectious or inflammatory disease, vaccination “can act as a synergistic or triggering factor” and should not be discounted when considering causality.

Drawing appropriate conclusions

Overall, Bellavite and Donzelli are unsparing in their critique of the systems usually relied on to monitor vaccine safety. Discussing “the inadequacy of passive surveillance to represent the real incidence of even short-term AEFIs, both of mild and serious kind,” they recommend directing more resources toward active surveillance of representative samples of the population, while also continuing to collect spontaneous reports through passive surveillance to capture “rare events that active surveillance would have little chance to intercept.”
These and other recommendations, articulated by Children’s Health Defense and many others, have fallen on deaf ears in the U.S.
More broadly, the Italian authors emphasize the fundamental principles of vaccine choice and informed consent, stating that “the choice of whether to vaccinate or not [is] a choice that must be made by the patient or by parents of underage children, properly advised by their doctors.”
They also noted how vaccine mandates alter doctors’ roles and turn them into “public officer[s] enforcing the government’s decisions.” Americans who are leery of experimental COVID-19 vaccines — and the improbable fairy tales being spun about the vaccines’ risk-benefit calculus — would likely agree with the Italians’ conclusions. The principle of informed consent cannot be satisfied “by a generic statement of a ‘safe profile’ or ‘lack of worrying signals,’” particularly when researchers ignore evidence of serious adverse effects in a significant percentage of vaccine recipients.

[geomancer]

And, here we go!

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...-in-l-a-county

Percentage of hospitalized COVID-19 patients dying in L.A. County doubles

That’s according to an analysis released Wednesday by the county’s Department of Health Services, which found that the share of people who died of the disease while hospitalized increased from about 1 in 8 people in September and October to roughly 1 in 4 since early November.

The increased percentage of deaths coincide with a devastating spike in L.A. County’s death toll. In early November, when the current coronavirus surge began, there were fewer than 20 COVID-19 deaths per day, on average. But over the weeklong period that ended Wednesday, there were roughly 206 deaths reported each day, according to data compiled by The Times.
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Dr. Roger Lewis, director of COVID-19 hospital demand modeling for the L.A. County Department of Health Services, said the increased percentage of deaths is a result of hospitals being so crowded that only the sickest patients are being admitted.

Because hospitalized COVID-19 patients are now uniformly more severely ill, a greater percentage of them are dying.

[pamelaL]

sadly...Richard...I started to loose faith in NPR during the Kerry vs Bush campaign, but totally lost faith when I listened to Amy Goodman speak in person about how they are told what they can and cannot say on air.... and that was some years ago now. I think the public only believes we own NPR, look to see who the meg-bucks donors are for a hint as to who really "owns" NPR; corporations, banks etc....

[caromia333]

Many of us have been long time financial supporters of NPR and rely on their fair and unbiased reporting of the news. NPR cannot provide this if they accept money from corporate interests that are known to use their money to influence the organizations to which they give. Koch Industries is notorious for influencing organizations in a way that only benefits them and the ultra wealthy at the cost of our citizens and our planet. Their primary industry is big oil and they have worked to bring down alternative energy industries. The bias of NPR became very clear in NPR's reporting on the North Dakota pipeline. The focus was not on the native americans protecting their land and water, but instead portrayed them as violent and as criminals.

[geomancer]

People are scared and abandon truth-tellers quickly... Vanessa Beeley has more integrity in small finger - let alone her reporting - than most. She however was hosting articles by someone else et cetera.
https://thewallwillfall.org/2021/01/23/
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Vanessa Beeley is an apologist for Putin's other puppet Saddam Assad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_Beeley
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after that link: type in:BioNTech-vaccine if that remains in web address, it should bring you to article.
Makia also wrote this: https://www.globalresearch.ca/mrna-c...accine/5734464
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Ahh, GlobalResearch! Rational Wiki has this to say about them:

Globalresearch is an "anti-Western" website that can't distinguish between serious analysis and discreditable junk — and so publishes both. It's basically the moonbat equivalent to Infowars or WND. While some of GlobalResearch's articles discuss legitimate humanitarian concerns, its view of science, economics, and geopolitics is conspiracist — if something goes wrong, the Jews West didit! The site has long been a crank magnet: If you disagree with "Western" sources on 9/11, or HAARP, or vaccines, or H1N1, or climate change, or anythingpublished by the "mainstream" media, then GlobalResearch is guaranteed to have a page you will love.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch

[geomancer]

I also quit listening to NPR many years ago. In this case, they were reporting the South Coast Air Quality Management District's press release (the link is in the part I quoted):

http://www.aqmd.gov/docs/default-sou...jan17-2021.pdf

South Coast AQMD Issues Emergency Order for Crematoriums due to COVID-19

DIAMOND BAR—Today, the South Coast Air Quality Management District (South Coast AQMD) issued an Emergency Order (Order) to temporarily suspend certain permit conditions for crematories in Los Angeles County to assist with the backlog caused by the COVID-19 pandemic.

South Coast AQMD permits for crematoriums contain limits on the number of human remains that may be cremated each month, based on potential air quality impacts. The current rate of death is more than double that of pre-pandemic years, leading to hospitals, funeral homes, and crematoriums exceeding capacity without the ability to process the backlog of cases. The Los Angeles County Medical-Examiner Coroner (ME-Coroner) and the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health have requested that South Coast AQMD suspend limits on cremations in order to protect public health and to respond to the current emergency.

The Order applies to crematories in Los Angeles County and other facilities that have an agreement with the ME- Coroner. Facilities are required to submit an email notice to the South Coast AQMD Emergency Relief Mailbox ([email protected]) with intent to exceed permit limits. Additional requirements are listed in the Order which can be found here.

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[M/M]

No one is perfect... Things slip in, but overall integrity is quite fine from our Canadian neighbor.

Bob D once sang... 'You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you'... One way we can do that is by looking up other people's opinions of other people, rather than forming our own.

[podfish]

Many of us have been long time financial supporters of NPR and rely on their fair and unbiased reporting of the news. NPR cannot provide this if they accept money from corporate interests that are known to use their money to influence the organizations to which they give. K

NPR has several problems, but excessive bias in favor of their contributors doesn't seem to be one of them. Far more problematic is their tendency to shape stories to fit their format. Steve Inskeep is the worst, often partly ignoring what his interviewee actually says and restating it in a form that clearly fits the story he already had in mind. Another thing to notice - how often they say, "in the ten seconds remaining, tell me...".
I think they do try to be fair, but they're not very good at seeking out or following up unexpected information.

[podfish]

We are each entitled to believe what Life has taught..

hey, you're gonna believe what you're gonna believe. So I guess that fits the definition of 'entitled' - it's not possible to stop people from believing anything. Just look at all the people who invaded the capitol recently. Their firmly-held beliefs are well publicized. Of course, we all know why our beliefs make sense, despite how firmly other people hold on to ones that don't.

[geomancer]

By doing "harm to the body politic," this is an example of what I mean. Not only are they refusing the vaccine, but they are actively preventing others from getting it. Meanwhile, the crematoria are burning overtime in LA.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...er-at-entrance

Dodger Stadium’s COVID-19 vaccination site temporarily shut down after protesters gather at entrance

A post on social media described the demonstration as the “Scamdemic Protest/March.” It advised participants to “please refrain from wearing Trump/MAGA attire as we want our statement to resonate with the sheeple. No flags but informational signs only.

“This is a sharing information protest and march against everything COVID, Vaccine, PCR Tests, Lockdowns, Masks, Fauci, Gates, Newsom, China, digital tracking, etc.”

[M/M]

Stories meant to terrify. Maybe consider less frightening information:
Doctors Slash COVID-19 Mortality Rate From 5.8% TO 3/10ths of One Percent With Telemedicine, Home Treatment

[geomancer]

Fool, you DISHONESTLY continue to ignore the threat of long COVID. How about a double lung transplant for starters.

covid lung transplant surgery

https://stm.sciencemag.org/content/12/574/eabe4282

Lungs from these five patients with prolonged COVID-19 disease were free of SARS-CoV-2 as detected by smFISH, but pathology showed extensive evidence of injury and fibrosis that resembled end-stage pulmonary fibrosis. Using machine learning, we compared single-cell RNA sequencing data from the lungs of patients with late-stage COVID-19 to that from the lungs of patients with pulmonary fibrosis and identified similarities in gene expression across cell lineages. Our findings suggest that some patients with severe COVID-19 develop fibrotic lung disease for which lung transplantation is their only option for survival.

Or brain rot:

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-o...he-brain-68369

That SARS-CoV-2, the culprit of the COVID-19 pandemic, is also associated with neurological symptoms isn’t entirely surprising, given some evidence that its close relatives, MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV-1, have been associated with neurological symptoms too. But the proportion of patients developing such symptoms—and their mounting collective numbers—has startled some scientists. When the news broke early last year that some 36 percent of COVID-19 patients in Wuhan hospitals were developing impaired consciousness, seizures, sensory impairments, and other neurological symptoms, “that floored me,” remarks Shibani Mukerji, a neuroinfectious disease specialist at Massachusetts General Hospital.

Stories meant to terrify. Maybe consider less frightening information:
Doctors Slash COVID-19 Mortality Rate From 5.8% TO 3/10ths of One Percent With Telemedicine, Home Treatment

[Mayacaman]

Richard Ely, It is rude to call anyone a fool just because you disagree with them. It is especially uncivil to say that to a Woman. You should know that by now. It is also contrary to the teaching in the Sermon on the Mount.

Granted, SARS-CoV-2 is potentially deadly, and can do a number on the lungs.

[Jude Iam]

Thank you, Mark.
Yes, this breath-taking verbal violence, doubtless self-justified, has been shocking, repeated and previously gone unmentioned.

Civil interchange - as the low bar for community dialogue - was one of the process values of Wacco.
Still being learned.

[geomancer]

More below on Long COVID:

https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/long-covid

One in 20 people likely to suffer from ‘Long COVID’, but who are they?

The latest analysis of data from thousands of users of the COVID Symptom Study app from ZOE, published as a preprint, shows that one in 20 people are likely to suffer from COVID-19 symptoms lasting more than 8 weeks.

We also found that it’s possible to predict who is likely to develop long COVID based on the very earliest signs of their illness. The more different symptoms a person experienced within the first week of illness, the more likely they were to develop long COVID. Using this together with age, gender and body mass index meant we could accurately predict who is most at risk of developing long-term symptoms.
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https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32705-7/fulltext

Long COVID guidelines need to reflect lived experience

According to the Office for National Statistics (ONS), an estimated 186 000 people . . . in private households in England currently have COVID-19 symptoms 5–12 weeks or longer after acute infection.2 The ONS estimate that one in five people have symptoms that persist after 5 weeks, and one in ten have symptoms for 12 weeks or longer after acute COVID-19
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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/one-third-of-patients-may-experience-long-covid

One-third of patients may experience ‘long COVID’

A study has found that 32% of people who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 were still experiencing at least one symptom 6 weeks after their tests. The most common of these symptoms were fatigue, shortness of breath, and a loss of taste or smell.

Fool, you DISHONESTLY continue to ignore the threat of long COVID. How about a double lung transplant for starters.

covid lung transplant surgery

[SRB]

So calling this a “vaccine” is misleading, as it is not one by the normal definition. It is not made from actual pathogens, weakened by heat or other methods. It is manufactured viral spike protein sequences, from a factory. In other words, gene-therapy. As there are no claims for prevention of the disease either, why would anyone wish to allow it to be done to them? Lessening of symptoms is the main claim, and that surely can be done by boosting your own immune system as much as possible. Loads of Vitamin D, without which your immune system is a sitting duck for any pathogen, and also the Zinc, Vit C, Quercitin etc to boost the antiviral action which your T-cell memory can carry out, using your natural immunity from previous exposure to other coronaviruses. This is what I believe, from a lot of investigating. Getting hold of the effective medication like Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine is not easy. It would be useful to ask your doctor for these instead of the “vaccine”, and see what the response is. In South Africa, and Slovakia, they just recently promoted Ivermectin as a treatment. It works.
The NIH also recently reversed their policy on Ivermectin, from “opposed” to a permission to use policy. Big of them. (12 mg. dose as a useful prophylactic.) At least that way you can take responsibility for your own health and not be frightened by all the hype.
Look at www.ivmmeta.com or www.covid19criticalcare.com for what you need. There is a giant stash of HCQ somewhere, taken off the shelves at the beginning of the pandemic. Whoever has it needs to fess up, hand it over, and go to jail, imho.