For anyone who'd like to see censored interview w/the two Bakersfield MDs. You can now.

[M/M]

https://thewallwillfall.org/2020/04/...on-california/


Note: This link is no longer viable... Bitchute version was also removed.

Bakersfieldnow link is working... Thank you Hotspring 44:
https://bakersfieldnow.com/news/coro...te-on-covid-19

[gypsey]

my understanding is that it wasn't censored-it was taken down because of material falseehoods including volume of tests, their credentials etc.

https://thewallwillfall.org/2020/04/...on-california/

[M/M]

my understanding is that it wasn't censored-it was taken down because of material falseehoods including volume of tests, their credentials etc.

Why not see it and make up your own mind?

[Hotspring 44]

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Why not see it and make up your own mind?

Tried to follow link and such. All I got to under the titled was more of an anti-Bill Gates and so-called "globalist elites" than a straight-forward 'interview' with the Dr in Bakersfield. The video was too propagandist for my mood when I checked it out.

I am not a fan of Bill Gates or any power-tripping elitists etc.
For me the video's premise seemed too focused on the elite individuals like Gates and Rockefeller etc.

I guess I feel bate-and-switched-on regarding the video's premise which has the tone of a sophisticated rant format than any actual up to date real and specific information about the Covid-19 and confirmable statistics that were eluded to with the Dr from Bakersfield, the word "banned" and such hyperbole...

...Also... I did read the so-called 'transcript' of what the Dr from Bakersfield 'supposedly' said on the linked-to page.
About the comparing of Germany's testing and US testing... ...The math is incomplete because there is no mention of population density, (in the transcript), or what the actual rate comparison, which made me suspect the validity of it is not and probably won't be substantiated...

...So, I looked things up... ...I found some info that you can 'decide for yourself' about, if you are interested enough to investigate further than just reading this or making the assumption and/or believe you already know, or have already made up your mind... ...Anyhow, what I found with my minimal investigation, in part is...

...The UN estimates the July 1, 2020 population of Germany at 83,783,942.
Germany has tested around 23.9% of it's total population which is double the rate as US.
Germany's population Density 240/km² which is 'statistically' 6 times as densely populated as US.


The UN estimates the July 1, 2020 population of US at 331,002,651.

Therefore, my math shows that the US has tested around 12.0% of it's total population which, according to the figures stated, is half the rate as Germany.


The US population Density is 36/km² which is 'statistically' about 1/6 as densely populated landmass as Germany.

That being said, There are densely populated cities and also very rural areas in US.

In the article, the Coved-19 virus, as was stated by the Dr. from Bakersfield, who is comparing Covid-19 with other illness causing things like the flu or a common cold. The Doctor's comparisons are mostly concentrated in the context of death rate per-infection per capita of large swaths of differing population densities which can skew the results for making a reasonable comparison.

Because of the lack of available testing for Covid-19 and considering the contagious aspects of what is already known about it, without enough available tests, no one can know for sure the actual total stats.


The pending questions that are most prevalent in my mind are; to what level of personal risk to one's self and the more vulnerable loved ones is society willing to risk?... ...What are the things or who are the ones that have to be deemed the most and least important to maintaining society's ability to, (do what exactly) ____________?; you fill-in the blank.

What anyone/society: et al. etc. fills in the blank with is an age-old dilemma of human kind that has two extremes and many so-called 'middle-ground compromises' that may or may not be viable ones.

To one extreme there is the authoritarian and at the other end of the spectrum there is egalitarian and of course there is the where we are at today here in the US: one of the the 'middle-ground compromising' 'zones'.


BTW, Bakersfield is in Kern County California. It is one of the highest air-pollution cities in US...
...According to weather.com. It's ranking of the top 10 nationwide per air pollution type is:
Ozone:
3. Bakersfield, California, (third most),

Year-Round Particle Pollution:
2. Bakersfield, California, (second most),

and Bakersfield, CA ranks number 1 for Short-Term Particle Pollution, (the highest in US).

It is remarkable to me that a Dr. in Bakersfield would have such an opinion considering that there are statistics showing initial results pointing to air pollution being linked with higher COVID-19 death rates.

The transcript leaves me with more unanswered questions than it has answers...

...Does this Dr. know something that most the world's experts in the field of study on the spread of viruses and the outbreak of pandemics haven't considered or have failed on?... ...Or is what has been published about what the Dr. said more based on opinion than on science?

I am mildly surprised that there was no mention of Valley Fever.
Just for kicks, here are 2 links. One is more informative and does not claim to know it all... ...The other has few written factual references in it.
If you had to choose which source to trust, which would you choose?... ...did you go to links?... ...If so, which one would you trust?... ...Both?... ...They don't necessarily disagree.

More questions:
If I am supposed to use the video and correlate it with what is in the 'transcript' and use that as a basis for information and I am asked to make up my own mind, I have another question: Are the world's expert scientists Bill Gates' and other elites' tools as the video suggests, or should I just make-up what ever coincides with that particular "conspiracy theory" and expand on it from there?

That last question was rhetorical.

[M/M]

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Tried to follow link and such. All I got to under the titled was more of an anti-Bill Gates and so-called "globalist elites" than a straight-forward 'interview' with the Dr in Bakersfield. The video was too propagandist for my mood when I checked it out.
......The math is incomplete because there is no mention of population density, (in the transcript), or what the actual rate comparison

I understand; and I see now that the interview - which was on bitchute - has been taken down as well... I think interview is worth seeing and evaluating - on its own merits, but that option apparently no longer exists.

They had actual figures based on their clinics, and from several locations around US from colleagues or other published sources.. They talked about how ERs in NY were at maximal capacity... whereas many areas with less dense populations were nowhere near capacity. One of many points they wanted to make - 2 months ago we had only speculative figures about what to expect. In light of unknown, it made sense to shut down and flatten the curve. Now we have 2 months worth of actual figures from many areas. In most places, high transmissible disease and relatively few people died - compared w/expectations based on models. They were not callous about the deaths; they were also quite concerned about what other things were bringing people to ER and acute care - child molestation, spousal abuse, increase in alcohol use, suicides...


The Bill Gates video is a Corbett Report and its premise is very different than MDs were making.

[Hotspring 44]

After investigating further, I found the video/interview of Doctors Dan Erickson and Artin Massihi from Bakersfield.

I have not watched it yet.
I suspect there were copyright issues more than I think the interview was 'Banned'.
The interview on this website seemed complete without any cuts, so I do not think it was 'censored'.

Just recorded the audio and will listen to it later.
The audio quality of the video is poor and the interviewer is very hard to hear and understand, but the Dr's are audible enough.

https://bakersfieldnow.com/news/coro...te-on-covid-19

[M/M]

Great that you found the whole interview for anyone wanting to see.... I'm not going to watch it again, but I believe focus is clear after initial adjustments of camera were made etc.. Doctors' answers make interviewers' questions clear where they may not be during interview itself. Interviewers and camera were a long table away from doctors and their volume seemed low.

After investigating further, I found the video/interview of Doctors Dan Erickson and Artin Massihi from Bakersfield....

[garywalker]

Why not see it and make up your own mind?

That's fine if you also read the critiques of the video before making up your mind.

[podfish]

That's fine if you also read the critiques of the video before making up your mind.

a lot of times "make up your mind" means "that person seems convincing to me". It's hard not to fall into that.

[forveterans49]

Seems it is all about Bill Gates.

https://thewallwillfall.org/2020/04/...on-california/

[Hotspring 44]

I just went to the bakersfieldnow webpage that I linked to and it did come up right away for me just a few minutes ago- ~ 6:50 pm, 05/04/2020.