Best of Political Humor - January 2019 - Discussion

[Barry]

The Democrats are building their own wall. It’s a growing wall of big government statism, endless war, globalism, and higher taxes that race toward socialism.

While I welcome your contributions from another point of view, Ray, I do ask that you also pay heed to the subject of this thread, as I do, which is Political HUMOR. So please select cartoons that at least attempt to be funny, even if the vast majority of our readers may not agree with you, or, sadly, see the humor. Or to put it another way, go ahead and poke fun at the {evil} left, not just restate your talking points in graphical format.

[rossmen]

Political humor is by nature controversial. If we choose to judge what's funny in a political cartoon, maybe we just don't get it. Look at our current president. Can we all agree that the guy is hilarious? If you don't, maybe you're just a bit too serious? YES!

While I welcome your contributions from another point of view, Ray, ...

[ray50sfo]

Humor is entirely subjective, isn't it?

I often find the "humorous" cartoons posted on this board viscous, uninformed, one-sided and bitter. That said, I hope we can all still laugh at our own inherent prejudices and reflect on our feelings of moral superiority. And respect "diverse" points of view. We don't all need to think alike.

My interpretation of free speech includes the right to be offended by another's viewpoint(s) and still remain in dialogue, visual or otherwise, and in connection with each other on the basis of our common shared humanity.

Clearly my point of view is the minority in this forum, and I appreciate your openness and generosity in not censoring it.

Thanks, brother.

[occihoff]

Hey Ray, I'm actually delighted to see these very well drawn cartoons that come with a right-wing perspective! It's a rare treat, where do you find them, send more! I love the sinister, deranged expressions on the faces of Schumer and Pelosi! But a few questions: What is the red stuff pouring through the open borders door? Who is S. King, in the picture on the wall? What is the upside-down star symbol on the other picture? What's wrong with Swedish socialism--do the Swedes feel oppressed? What's with the red "Russia Russia Russia" poster--do you think the Democrats are more into Russia than the Trumpsters?! And do you really think that Democrats are more into endless war than Republicans?? Please explain!

The Democrats are building their own wall. It’s a growing wall of big government statism, endless war, globalism, and higher taxes that race toward socialism.

[Karl Frederick]

Thank you for your cartoon posts and refreshingly open attitude. Cartoons often use exaggeration to make a point humorous, and though I'm often on the other side of your political aisle, I enjoyed your perspective.

Humor is entirely subjective, isn't it? ...

[occihoff]

What do you mean by "viscous" ?

I basically agree with you that we don't all need to think alike, and that we should strive to remain in connection with each other on the basis of our common shared humanity. The problem arises when we left wingers see things such as cold blooded treatment of poor, desperate migrants, or brutal wars that seem to be solely in the interest of wealthy capitalists. It's like when you see someone being beaten up by thugs, it's not healthy to say well, we just have a different point of view from those people. If you have a loving heart you have to take a stand and oppose what you perceive to be brutality and oppression.

That said, I welcome any opportunity to discuss differences with people of a right wing bent. I'm truly curious to comprehend their mind set and feelings. Most people, including myself, only fraternize with people who share their attitudes and beliefs. I also think that most people harbor suppressed feelings of anger, which may enjoy the opportunity to put down and fight with people you have an excuse to dislike.

Humor is entirely subjective, isn't it?

I often find the "humorous" cartoons posted on this board viscous, uninformed, one-sided and bitter.

[ray50sfo]

DISCLAIMER: Do not try this at home...this is only meant for highly trained professionals...

[Jimnmartha]

DISCLAIMER: Do not try this at home...this is only meant for highly trained professionals...

So if I burn my fingers Trump won’t be my president???

[ray50sfo]

Right...the design may need to be modified...but we'll ship it as is and fix it in V 2.0...it should be ready by the time your fingers heal...

And technically, if you're still alive, burnt fingers or not, and are an American citizen, like it or not, Trump is your President.

[pdfender]

Never my president!
He is illegitimate.
Remember: Hillary is the rightful president!

...And technically, if you're still alive, burnt fingers or not, and are an American citizen, like it or not, Trump is your President.

[ray50sfo]

Sorry, it was a typo. I meant "vicious" - malicious and spiteful; not "viscous" - having a thick or sticky consistency. The consequences of late night pontification...

We do need to stay connected with our fellow humans through dialogue rather than diatribe. True dialogue includes the willingness of each participant to learn from and change opinions as a result of curiosity, open-hearted interaction and intent listening.

Personally, I don't align or identify myself as liberal, conservative, left wing, right wing, etc.. The forces that want power over us want us divided along those and many other lines; race, sex, religion to name a few. I am for spiritual independence and personal sovereignty.

An in depth discussion of the social and political ills you mentioned would exceed the limits of this board as they are complex, layered and not to be solved with slogans or pronouncements. It would require in person verbal intercourse, most likely with coffee, tea, beer, wine, kombucha, etc. involved.

What do you mean by "viscous" ?

I basically agree with you that we don't all need to think alike, and that we should strive to remain in connection with each other on the basis of our common shared humanity. ...

That said, I welcome any opportunity to discuss differences with people of a right wing bent. I'm truly curious to comprehend their mind set and feelings. ...

[ray50sfo]

While I disagree with your opinion, I respect your right to hold it.

Never my president!
He is illegitimate.
Remember: Hillary is the rightful president!

[Jimnmartha]

Not surprising that you believe the device pictured could result in death - scientific fact isn’t generally a strong suit for Trump supporters 

[ray50sfo]

Not surprising that those suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome can't take a joke...or see humor that isn't at the expense of Trump.

No, using the device pictured wouldn't result in death. Before the beaker blew the metal would heat up and as jimmartha noted, burn your finger.

Clearly, you didn't find it any funnier than I find the political "humor" usually on wacco.

But if you want to stop believing and spreading FAKE NEWS, which is opinion as opposed to fact, Trump actually is, in fact, the President of the United States. You may not like that, you may think he is the devil incarnate, or you may have the OPINION that he is not your President but when you go to whitehouse.gov you will see that Donald J Trump actually IS the President. And as a matter of fact, if you are a US citizen, then technically, in fact not opinion or preference, he IS YOUR PRESIDENT.

You may also note that under the current laws Hillary lost the election in the Electoral College. She is not the President. You may think of her as YOUR president, but that is only delusion and denial of objective fact. I get it that you don't care for Trump, but if you're going to be a stickler for FACTS, you might consider looking at ALL the facts, not just the ones that fit your perceptual bias.

We may not agree on everything :-), but nice sparring with you. Have a Nice Day

Not surprising that you believe the device pictured could result in death - scientific fact isn’t generally a strong suit for Trump supporters 

[Jimnmartha]

No, but the manufacturing was outsourced to Mexico...it was designed by the Russians, stolen and manufactured by the Chinese, brought into the country illegally by MS-13 from Honduras and sold on Amazon from the UK...truly a global triumph!

Of course you know that MS-13 originated in the USA and WE exported it to Honduras resulting in some of the refugee crisis at our southern boarder.

[ray50sfo]

Ah, yes. One more reason to hate ourselves and America...when the rest of the world is so perfect.

Actually MS-13 was started by Salvadorean immigrants, most likely illegal, in Los Angeles as a response to their persecution by the Crips and Bloods. All three were products of the CIA (Cocaine Import Agency), living on the Urban Plantation of the Democrat Party in the ghettos of the inner city.

WE THE PEOPLE, didn't export MS-13 to Honduras, the Deep State shadow government of which the CIA is a large part, exported it under the presidencies of Clinton, the Bushes and Obama. All bought and paid for silver tongued globalist stooges spouting the seductive siren song of "surrender your freedom for safety"...America is evil...open / no borders...socialism is the solution for class disparities...and much more.

What's happening at the border now is not a refugee crisis, it's an invasion. It's not an organic group of refugees. Most of these "refugees" are being bused and trucked to the border by highly organized groups that don't have your or my best interests as their goal. The women and children are being used and are pushed to the front for the news cameras by the organizers of the invasion. Like Darth Vader in Star Wars, they use our compassion against us to defeat our resistance to their agenda.

But, of course, you can dismiss it all as a wild 'conspiracy theory' because you didn't hear it on CNN, read it in the NYT, or any of the other alphabet propaganda media. Brainwashed, bent over and participating in your own destruction. I say all this because I care about human dignity and freedom. Have a Nice Day.

Of course you know that MS-13 originated in the USA and WE exported it to Honduras resulting in some of the refugee crisis at our southern boarder.

[ray50sfo]

According to the cartoonist, the red stuff is blood, the blood of the Americans killed by illegal immigrants. The scene is a parody of the elevator scene from 'The Shining", by Steven King (S. King). The inverted pentacle is a symbol of Satan. Pelosi and Schumer are like the two evil children. It is saying that their press conference was a horror show.

As for your inquiry into Socialism: Socialism is all based on theft at gunpoint. Take from one class, give to another. To paraphrase Karl Marx, "The purpose of Socialism is to lead to Communism." It has always led to totalitarianism in the end. Sweden isn't at that end yet. To quote Margaret Thatcher, "Socialism is fine until you run out of other people's money." As in Venezuela. Sweden hasn't run out yet, but it is starting to due to unchecked Islamic migration from the Middle East and Africa. Give it another 10 years and let's see how great it is.

Russia: Trump has been harder on Russia, policy wise, than any of the globalist stooge presidents: Clinton, the Bushes, and Obama. Hillary and the Democrat administration were responsible for selling 20% of our uranium to Russia after generous donations to the Clinton Foundation. The DNC paid for the fake, still uncorroborated dossier, used to obtain FISA warrants by the Obama administration to illegally spy on the Trump campaign. The Deep State establishment Democrats AND Republicans are so desperate to get rid of Trump because he upset their power base that if they had any real evidence of the so called Russia collusion he would have been gone long ago. So, yes, I think the Dems are more into Russia. Just my opinion. I respect your right to live in an alternate reality :-)...

As far as endless wars go, Eisenhower's "Beware the Military Industrial complex" quote comes to mind. They buy politicians on both sides. Trump is bringing troops home from Syria and the Deep State Media screams. They didn't scream when Obama sent them there. They want war because it makes them money. They don't care about humanity.

If you have the courage and willingness to explore an idea that would mean, as the Firesign Theater says, "Everything you know is wrong.", search for this on youtube - "Q-Plan to Save the World." It poses an alternate to the Dem / Republican, liberal / conservative plan to divide the world. Of course it has been debunked by the Fake News media as a conspiracy theory, but, think for yourself. Don't let them tell you what to think. What if it is true? Can you expand your mind and change your perspective? Maybe. Either way, I respect you and wish you well. Namaste'

... But a few questions: What is the red stuff pouring through the open borders door? Who is S. King, in the picture on the wall? What is the upside-down star symbol on the other picture? What's wrong with Swedish socialism--do the Swedes feel oppressed? What's with the red "Russia Russia Russia" poster--do you think the Democrats are more into Russia than the Trumpsters?! And do you really think that Democrats are more into endless war than Republicans?? Please explain!

[pdfender]

Somebody drank the Koolaid.

[occihoff]

So would you have felt the same if Trump had gotten almost 3 million more votes than Hilary, but still lost in the Electoral College? Just checkin' ! And do you agree that the Electoral College should be abolished in favor of a simple, straightforward majority---here in this supposed world bastion of Democracy?

...You may also note that under the current laws Hillary lost the election in the Electoral College. ...

[occihoff]

Hey Ray, how did you get all this amazing inside information about who these supposed refugees really are?

...What's happening at the border now is not a refugee crisis, it's an invasion. It's not an organic group of refugees. Most of these "refugees" are being bused and trucked to the border by highly organized groups that don't have your or my best interests as their goal.....

[occihoff]

How do you know all these things, Ray? What is your inside scoop?

No, but the manufacturing was outsourced to Mexico...it was designed by the Russians, stolen and manufactured by the Chinese, brought into the country illegally by MS-13 from Honduras and sold on Amazon from the UK...truly a global triumph!

[occihoff]

Dear me, Ray, that looks like an awful lot of blood! So how many Americans have been killed by illegal immigrants? I thought it was 6 last I heard, but perhaps you have a better source of reliable information. I had also heard that the murder rate among immigrants is lower than among American citizens, but maybe that's just hogwash from the immigrant-loving media I listen to.

I mentioned Sweden, but I have heard that Norway and many other European countries including Britain and Ireland also have government funded health care. Canada too. Is this true? So do you see signs that these counties are going down the tubes due to this socialistic folly? Are their citizens begging to do away with these medical systems and go back to a treatment for profit system like ours?

Islamic migration in Europe is indeed a problem, but isn't the source of the problem horrendous violence and oppression in their own countries?

As for Trump & Co's relationship with Russia, more and more alarming facts seem to keep bubbling up, and we'll just have to see how the Mueller investigation pans out. I must say, though, that Trump seems rather apoplectic about it already.

I certainly share your distaste for the Military Industrial Complex, and agree that both sides of the political isle are complicit in bloating it. But I think that the complaints about suddenly bringing troops home from Syria have more to do with leaving our allies unexpectedly hanging, as well as just even further abandoning the people of Syria to the tyranny of Assad and--once again--Russia!

According to the cartoonist, the red stuff is blood, the blood of the Americans killed by illegal immigrants. The scene is a parody of the elevator scene from 'The Shining", ...

As for your inquiry into Socialism: ...
Russia: ...
As far as endless wars go, ...

[ray50sfo]

Who drank the koolaid?

Dear me, Ray, that looks like an awful lot of blood! So how many Americans have been killed by illegal immigrants? I thought it was 6 last I heard, but perhaps you have a better source of reliable information. I had also heard that the murder rate among immigrants is lower than among American citizens, but maybe that's just hogwash from the immigrant-loving media I listen to.

I mentioned Sweden, but I have heard that Norway and many other European countries including Britain and Ireland also have government funded health care. Canada too. Is this true? So do you see signs that these counties are going down the tubes due to this socialistic folly? Are their citizens begging to do away with these medical systems and go back to a treatment for profit system like ours?

Islamic migration in Europe is indeed a problem, but isn't the source of the problem horrendous violence and oppression in their own countries?

As for Trump & Co's relationship with Russia, more and more alarming facts seem to keep bubbling up, and we'll just have to see how the Mueller investigation pans out. I must say, though, that Trump seems rather apoplectic about it already.

I certainly share your distaste for the Military Industrial Complex, and agree that both sides of the political isle are complicit in bloating it. But I think that the complaints about suddenly bringing troops home from Syria have more to do with leaving our allies unexpectedly hanging, as well as just even further abandoning the people of Syria to the tyranny of Assad and--once again--Russia!

[ray50sfo]

Know, nobody really knows. Unless you're actually there and see it for yourself we're all dealing with second, third, or more hand rumor. Even photos lie by implication and exclusion. For me, going off the beaten path, tuning out the corporate media, thinking a bit for myself, choosing what I want to believe are what I do.

OR, in the words of Frank Zappa:
“Drop out of school before your mind rots from exposure to our mediocre educational system. Forget about the Senior Prom and go to the library and educate yourself if you've got any guts. Some of you like Pep rallies and plastic robots who tell you what to read.”

These days, IMHO, the plastic robots are predominantly the Democrat Media Machine and their talking heads, all reading from the same script. Don't you ever notice that the same phrases and opinions masquerading as news appear on every channel you listen to / read? It's really a brilliant brainwashing tool.

HOWEVER, in the words of Zippy the Pinhead "But I didn't want my brain washed..."

How do you know all these things, Ray? What is your inside scoop?

[ray50sfo]

In terms of objective reality it matters not how you, I, or anyone else FEELS about it. I wasn't happy with Obama's treason for 8 years, but unfortunately at that time he was my president. Nothing I did changed that.

The United States is not a Demoracy, which is technically mob rule and mass bullying, we are a Representative Republic so the smaller states don't get bullied by the bigger ones.

Again, you may not like it, agree with it, or approve of it; but that is reality at the moment.

So would you have felt the same if Trump had gotten almost 3 million more votes than Hilary, but still lost in the Electoral College? Just checkin' ! And do you agree that the Electoral College should be abolished in favor of a simple, straightforward majority---here in this supposed world bastion of Democracy?

[pdfender]

Ray,
You really did drink the Koolaid.
You’re quite delusional.
Watching too much Faux news. Not news. Just bad entertainment.

[ray50sfo]

Thanks for sharing. I feel the same way about you. Given this, how can we respect and relate with each other in spite of our differences of OPINION? We are human beings first, and political beliefs second, I hope.

That could make the world a better place, right?

Or we could just yell at each other, feel morally superior, say mean things to each other, etc...let's be the change we want to see.

Ray,
You really did drink the Koolaid.
You’re quite delusional.
Watching too much Faux news. Not news. Just bad entertainment.

[pdfender]

You are entitled to your opinion. However, you write as if they were facts. You’re hiding in a cave.
Please educate yourself.

[ray50sfo]

You are entitled to your opinion. However, you write as if they were facts. You’re hiding in a cave.
Please educate yourself.

Thank you. So you mean it I disagree with your OPINIONS I am uneducated?

You seem to be parroting the Mainstream Mockingbird Media talking points that eliminate 90% of the facts and use the remaining 10% to fit a far left lunatic narrative. I've lived in Sebastopol and been in the "bubble".

If, as you stated, you believe that Hillary is your president, you may be the one living in a cave.

Consider this:

"In his 1841 book Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, Scottish journalist Charles Mackay chronicled the history of the phenomena we now see gripping the Resistance movement to the Trump presidency. Writing on national delusions, moral panics, economic bubbles, and herd behavior, Mackay observed, "We find that whole communities suddenly fix their minds upon one object, and go mad in its pursuit; that millions of people become simultaneously impressed with one delusion, and run after it, till their attention is caught by some new folly more captivating than the first."

Mackay documents the manias that made traders turn tulips into the most expensive objects on earth in the mid-1600s, caused Christian communities in the American colonies to torture and execute "witches," and caused European nobles to sponsor alchemists to turn base metals into gold (and imprison them until they succeeded). Of these and many other episodes of mass hysteria, Mackay wrote, "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."

In the present madness commonly known as "Trump Derangement Syndrome," the Resistance is led, in order of influence, by Hollywood entertainers, New York City journalists, and Washington Democrat politicians. By any objective measure, all three groups have failed utterly at their primary jobs to entertain, inform, and lead – at least in any way that inspires, educates, or solves problems. Instead, the most notable features of these groups is their desperate need for attention (in an age of unprecedented media saturation) and their obsession with being seen as morally superior to us commoners – the latter to justify the former. Two ingredients combined to create the alchemy of madness now consuming our national politics."

[Barry]

And now for the rest of the story...

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