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    Worth a shot: Petition Electoral College: make Hillary Clinton president on December 19th

    Here is something sent to me by a friend. It offers a glimmer of hope. There are now over a million signers. Join them and then post this widely.

    Friends-

    There is plenty of evidence that this election WAS rigged. Not like the
    Tangerine Turd claimed, but as investigated and reported on by Greg Palast,
    Democracy Now!, the League of Women Voters and many others. Voter
    suppression, voter roll purges, touch screen voting machines with their
    anti-fraud software turned off, intimidation of minority voters, Republican
    gerrymandering of voter districts: the list goes on. The techniques have
    been refined since 2000 when Bush stole the election with the help of the
    right-wing Supreme Court Justices. This election was stolen too.

    Do you know in your gut that the election results are a potentially fatal
    body blow to the republic? I do.

    Do you want to do something about it? Well, here's something. It's a long
    shot, but worth a few moments of your time.

    Below is a link to a Change.org petition to the folks who actually cast the
    Electoral College votes on Dec. 19th, the formal process to choose the
    President. These Electors can vote for Hillary Clinton if they so choose.
    There is no law against it, and it would actually fulfill the mandate of the
    Electoral College, which the country's founders said should reflect "the
    will of the people." Since Hillary won the majority of the popular vote
    (even in the face of widespread rigging), and Trump is clearly unfit for
    office, the petition calls for the Electors to vote for Clinton.

    Sign the petition here (you'll have to cut and paste into your browser):

    He's not my President, and he's not America's President either. We cannot
    make the same mistake of 2000, where we sat idly by and let the corruption
    of the democratic process happen. Sign the petition. This time we resist and
    fight back! Start here.

    Thanks, Matt

    The Petition:

    Letter to: Electoral College Electors

    Electoral College make Hillary Clinton president on December 19th

    The Founders created the Electoral College to balance two important values:
    the will of the people, and the need for a President who is fit for office.

    Denying Mr. Trump the Presidency accomplishes both goals while violating no
    Constitutional principle.

    In Federalist No. 68, Hamilton explains that the "sense of the people", must
    be expressed in the outcome. But, "Men most capable of analyzing the
    qualities adapted to the station and acting under circumstances favorable to
    deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and
    inducements which were proper to govern their choice," should make the final
    decision.

    Hamilton pointed out that, "Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of
    popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a
    single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of
    merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or
    of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a
    successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United
    States".

    Casting your ballot for Hillary preserves majority rule - the "sense of the
    people" - and prevents the most unqualified candidate in history from taking
    office. Never in our Republic's 240 years has our President has no previous
    experience in an office of public trust, be it elected or appointed,
    civilian or military. Never has a President admitted to sexual assaults.
    Never has a President encouraged violence at campaign events.

    There is no reason electors cannot vote with their conscience, and at the
    same time preserve majority rule.

    Please protect our Constitution and our Republic by casting your ballot for
    Hillary Clinton.
    Last edited by Barry; 11-11-2016 at 01:37 PM.
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    Re: Worth a shot: Petition Electoral College: make Hillary Clinton president on December 1

    As far as I can tell, the only reason there even is an Electoral College is to appease the states'-rights folks; but democratic process takes precedence over any such consideration. We definitely need to de-commission the EC ASAP.
    Last edited by Barry; 11-12-2016 at 08:57 AM.
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    Re: Worth a shot: Petition Electoral College: make Hillary Clinton president on December 1

    As it happens, Moon, there was an article in today's PD about the EC.

    The Electoral College was a sop tossed to the smaller, rural states when the Constitution was being written so they would get a fairer representation (3/5) in elections. Today, it gives greater weight to the southern states (white rural). There have been 4 times in our history when the President-elect got fewer popular votes than the loser and every time, it was a Republican who won the electoral votes. The ONLY way to change it or dismantle it is through a Constitutional amendment, and that will never happen as long as the Repugs control either house of Congress.
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