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    Shooters

    Everybody was talking about the kid who shot a bunch of people because he didn’t like girls and they felt the same way about him. He didn’t kill as many people as most shooters do these days, but he wrote sort of a term paper about it. If you write lots of really ugly stuff, that makes up for being a bad shot.

    But I couldn’t think what to say. If you’re a Fool, it should be funny, whereas for other people it can just be stupid.

    I asked my sister what she thought, and she said, well, nothing surprised her, but at least he used better grammar than most of the guys she dates. My sister has kind of had it with men.

    I asked my friend Joe, but I knew what he’d say: just proves we all need to carry guns, like in the Old West, and wear cowboy hats.

    Marge, who runs the coffee stand, said they ought to test people for being crazy, but they’d probably find out that everybody was, or if they weren’t they ought to be.

    I watched TV to get the real scoop, but the newshounds were all saying, The question is why? They don’t say why the question is why.

    It’s getting harder to get on the news these days and stay there for any length of time. A dog pooped in a passenger jet and they had to land. It’s true. They ran out of paper towels. But nobody said, The question is why? The dog did it because he needed to. I guess the same with the kid.

    Put stuff in, it comes out one way or another. Question is, who fed him what?

    --Damned Fool
    (a.k.a. C. Bishop & E. Fuller, www.damnedfool.com)
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    Re: Shooters

    If you want to understand more about the context of this (and other) shooting(s), i would recommend the following videos and articles:

    https://www.democracynow.org/2014/5/...t_on_the_santa

    https://www.policymic.com/articles/8...p-out-misogyny

    https://quiteirregular.wordpress.com...-a-mens-issue/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPFc...ctr=1401686552

    best,
    Kayenne

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    Everybody was talking about the kid who shot a bunch of people because he didn’t like girls and they felt the same way about him. He didn’t kill as many people as most shooters do these days, but he wrote sort of a term paper about it. If you write lots of really ugly stuff, that makes up for being a bad shot.

    But I couldn’t think what to say. If you’re a Fool, it should be funny, whereas for other people it can just be stupid.

    I asked my sister what she thought, and she said, well, nothing surprised her, but at least he used better grammar than most of the guys she dates. My sister has kind of had it with men.

    I asked my friend Joe, but I knew what he’d say: just proves we all need to carry guns, like in the Old West, and wear cowboy hats.

    Marge, who runs the coffee stand, said they ought to test people for being crazy, but they’d probably find out that everybody was, or if they weren’t they ought to be.

    I watched TV to get the real scoop, but the newshounds were all saying, The question is why? They don’t say why the question is why.

    It’s getting harder to get on the news these days and stay there for any length of time. A dog pooped in a passenger jet and they had to land. It’s true. They ran out of paper towels. But nobody said, The question is why? The dog did it because he needed to. I guess the same with the kid.

    Put stuff in, it comes out one way or another. Question is, who fed him what?

    --Damned Fool
    (a.k.a. C. Bishop & E. Fuller, www.damnedfool.com)
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    Re: Shooters

    For me, a better question is: Why isn't there a safe, appropriate place for what needs to come out to be received? Pretty obvious for the dog. Less obvious for humans in a culture that tends to discount or ignore real human needs - especially relational or emotional needs. Things that we can't find a way to bring out in positive or constructive ways (unmet needs, unexpressed feelings) tend to get buried alive. But they still try to come out, and often they surface in ugly, destructive or tragic ways.

    My guess is that this fellow was desperate for love and/or acceptance (though largely unconscious of that) and projected onto women the responsibility for meeting that need, so blamed them for his unhappiness. I would also guess that on some level he believed he was unacceptable or unlovable, which led him to behave accordingly. Which led women to respond to him accordingly, confirming his unconscious belief. With any such unmet need comes a sense of powerlessness, and acts of extreme violence are most likely to arise from someone who feels extremely needy but powerless to get his needs met.

    CSummer

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    Everybody was talking about the kid who shot a bunch of people because he didn’t like girls and they felt the same way about him. He didn’t kill as many people as most shooters do these days...
    Last edited by Bella Stolz; 06-02-2014 at 12:35 PM.
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    Re: Shooters

    And since Reagan, these poor souls don't get psych help anymore, but are left out in the world to shoot people.....

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    For me, a better question is: Why isn't there a safe, appropriate place for what needs to come out to be received? Pretty obvious for the dog. Less obvious for humans in a culture that tends to discount or ignore real human needs - especially relational or emotional needs. Things that we can't find a way to bring out in positive or constructive ways (unmet needs, unexpressed feelings) tend to get buried alive. But they still try to come out, and often they surface in ugly, destructive or tragic ways.

    My guess is that this fellow was desperate for love and/or acceptance (though largely unconscious of that) and projected onto women the responsibility for meeting that need, so blamed them for his unhappiness. I would also guess that on some level he believed he was unacceptable or unlovable, which led him to behave accordingly. Which led women to respond to him accordingly, confirming his unconscious belief. With any such unmet need comes a sense of powerlessness, and acts of extreme violence are most likely to arise from someone who feels extremely needy but powerless to get his needs met.

    CSummer
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