Efren Carrillo Cartoon Caption Contest!

[meherc]

Gee, And I was going to ask him to marry me.

marcwordsmith, I've already addressed your concerns in my posts #27 and #28 in this thread, so I won't redundantly beat that horse; I refer you to them.

I have some questions for you, though.

If a few snarky jokes are too "mean" a response to what appears to be very serious and scary behavior, I suppose that anything like jail or losing his job or whatever must be out of the question, eh?

Do your characterizations of some of us (or at least our self-expression) as mean, nasty, puerile, ruthless, unkind, callous, and worthy of censure qualify as "mean" behavior on your part? If not, please share the criterion by which you assign your criticisms to the righteous side of the line and ours to the nasty side. Maybe you feel that if the criticism is humorous it's mean, or...?

You refer to "...what is considered acceptable and appropriate--in our community and in our country" and you say "I'm not clear who writes the rules--other than all of us, by consensus." Leaving aside your dubious assumptions about social acceptability and who writes the rules, I'll ask this: Could you be unaware that the national, and probably the local, consensus involves revering and richly rewarding Jay Leno, David Letterman, Conan O'Brien, and hundreds if not thousands of other humorists for regularly razzing public figures over their bad behaviors? Have you sent similar protestations to them, or are you just focusing on those of us who've posted here on Wacco? And, if the latter, are you being "mean"?

[meherc]

Could you translate that into plain English, please? I thought I was following it but toward the end just said what the hell is he talking about? And I would like to know. People who value kindness and gentleness don;'t value personal safety?

hey, we all have our preferences about what are the biggest and most blame-worthy moral failings. You've stumbled into a situation where you're cool with where you draw the line, but are taking issue with where others do.
I submit that is dangerously close to hypocrisy!

people who value gentleness and kindness extremely highly seem to find those of us who don't, kind of inexplicable. To me it seems that where you lie on that spectrum correlates highly how much you value personal safety - those who value that highly also seem to find it inexplicable that others don't - or at least don't find attempts to guarantee it so compelling. So it makes coming to a consensus about what is appropriate comment and/or behavior rather difficult.

[tomcat]

I believe it was the POLICE who told the REPORTER that the woman called 911 and said that someone (who was LATER identified as Efran) tried to get into her bedroom window.
As far as I know, the woman has not given any interviews or made any public statements yet.

Did he really try to get in? ...or was he just peeping, in the wee hours, in his undies and socks, possibly high on something more than booz... or is there something else going on here? There are so many possibilities, some obvious, some not so much.

We will know more when the 911 tapes and the police report is released.


I'm still waiting for more information before I make up my mind about this crazy situation.

Not liking the cartoon caption contest so much.

Tom

No, no, of course not; the woman said that he tried to get in.

[Jacob Bayless]

"I'm here to solve the Rowdie problem, Ma'am"

(I know it's closed, but I had to - just heard about this :-) Thanks for posing the question, Barry.)

or

"No Ma'am, I'm a Dolphin."

[Sara S]

Go for his balls, Fido, if he has any....

[rossmen]

the cops are just people too, and frontline public servants, and they need to work closely with the da to complete their work. your problem is the da, who probably blames you for a significant part of your sons actions. so you have been part of the prosecution. cops will lie in this situation.

concerning efren cops prejudiced effort will be careful truth trending toward lie by omission. efren has confirmed much and denied nothing of what they have let out from their investigation. his powerful supporters and accomplished lawyer are no doubt working to suppress any additional info from emerging, including the existing police report or testimony by the victim. san diego redux.

one of the little things we can do is make jokes, a sharp pin to the oppression, both internal and external, of a civilization based on power over. perhaps you don't find it funny, perhaps thats a mirror to see your own pain.

Have to say just one more thing, then zen. I was arrested recently for "battering a police officer" then they added two more charges later that I was never told about -2 counts of resisting arrest. They lied , they lied, they lied. Completely, they might have been the Officers Grimm.
My attorney said plead no contest and get it over with and I was going to after a year long murder trial for my son -I was falling apart, have to go bankrupt and cry all the time about losing my family. Yes, I'd rather it was all done. But then I read that Slate article about how the police make up this stuff all the time and people usually just pay the fine and forget it. Well, I decided I did not do anything wrong or anything close to what they said I did. I can't believe a jury will believe that little me went after 7 cops and scared them so. Tomcat, I would never believe the police again. And why should we believe them now?

[dzerach]

No one can have an answer. I have no idea what he was doing. But, I take issue with your implication that this other behavior, in general, (on the other hand), is somehow ever so slightly acceptable, non-criminal, or less damaging to victim:
"Just peeping" ??

Did he really try to get in? ...or was he just peeping...Tom

[Barry]

Go for his balls, Fido, if he has any....

Ouch! Gosh, Sara...

[dzerach]

https://contest.newyorker.com/Captio...ate=ny-caption

You guys must not have even entered your cartoon captions -- look at the "winners"! Typical national election. And another humbling loss for me (joke).

Well, okay, Silas, I'll participate.
But weekday mornings don't have go-arounds!
Mack, run, give daddy his briefcase.

[tomcat]

...slightly acceptable? Non-criminal? Less damaging? I never said any of these things, nor did I mean to imply them. I was merely giving examples to show that anything is possible since we don't know the facts. For all we know, he could have been doing a late night window screen inspection and got lost or playing a weird online fantasy dare game or maybe he forgot that he took an Ambian to sleep and thought he locked himself out of his house and tried to get into a window he thought was his... Then again, maybe he really did want to hook up with this woman and was trying to get her attention (or worse). My point was, we don't know.
Tom

No one can have an answer. I have no idea what he was doing. But, I take issue with your implication that this other behavior, in general, (on the other hand), is somehow ever so slightly acceptable, non-criminal, or less damaging to victim:
"Just peeping" ??