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    This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    yes, I'm calling myself "chemical woman" now because it seems to fit and I will try for any humor possible in the face of what I'm going through ..

    Sonoma County we have a HUGE problem ... and sadly, it's a global problem and it's affecting lots of innocent people ... but we can only deal with Sonoma County so I'll tell you what's going on here ...

    I am a 59 year old animal rescuer and Home Hospice volunteer... a lot of you know me through Stray Pet Network and the Home Hospice thrift store. Around 6 months ago I reported that chemicals were being sprayed on my property ... I think that a lot of you probably thought that I had been working too hard ...

    Well, the situation has gotten worse and now I am being followed around the county and chemicals are being thrown at my car ... some kind of irritating powder that burns the tongue and face ... I've collected some of it and I will have it tested ... and here's the scary thing, there are many, many people involved in this harassment ... now if I swerve out of the way, which I've learned to do, and you're behind me, you will get the chemicals instead ... this is what's happening here in Sonoma County ... our beautiful community where our children are growing up ...

    So I've done a lot of research and the exact same thing is happening to a lot of other folks ... it's some kind of program of harassment characterized by the following: ...

    complete surveillance 24/7 ... I'm talking email hacking, phone taps, cameras, gps ... the whole shebang ....
    home, property and car vandalism
    break-ins and theft
    pet torture
    internet interference ... viruses, hacking, deleting
    physical assault ... chemicals and worse
    stalking, 24/7 by many different people
    spreading lies and trying to alienate the victim from their friends and family
    career sabotage
    noise harassment .... and it goes on ...

    you'll find some links and news footage at the bottom of this message that describe this growing problem ...

    So this has become my life after many years of community service ... I've given my pets away, my friends have been threatened and some have disappeared, my health is suffering, I am being lied about in the community, and I'm enduring constant harassment ... and why? ... well that's a good question ... I did call the cops on a group of drug and alcohol abusers who lived behind me after many nights of listening to loud obscenities and gunshots and this harassment is often used for retaliation ... I should mention that I only did this after several soft spoken attempts to reason with these people ...

    But it might be bigger then that ... there's an online conference call at https://www.freedomfchs.com/id31.html and there are many people calling in from the Bay Area and around the country to complain about the same thing ... they're basically tortured like I am ... and in the exact same way ... several mention that they were "gassed" out of their homes ...

    So, does anyone care about this? ... yes, it's unbelievable but it IS happening! ... I have had psychological testing lately because of a disability claim ( due to the affects of the chemicals ) and the psychologist confirmed that I was sane and even mentioned someone else with the same complaints ...

    Are we going to allow some criminal vigilante group the freedom to attack innocent victims in Sonoma County? ... what can be done?

    Personally, I need a safe environment and I need to become aligned with a local group who is already fighting injustice. Any suggestions? ... I wouldn't mind a 24 hour body guard but my income has been attacked also so that's just a dream ....

    I need those people out there who are also targeted to overcome their fear and step forward and join me in this fight.

    I need those people out there who are following me and harassing me to question their leaders ... who put you up to this? Did you really check their credentials? If you are stalking anyone and thinking that you're doing good then please read this:

    https://www.blogster.com/satancanthaveme/list-your-experience-of-gangstalking-tactics-110708161633

    You are being lied to and used by a criminal group ...

    I need someone who can find the gps tracker in my car and remove it. I need someone to go up on my roof and figure out how these chemicals are getting into my living space ... I need someone brave enough to help me as I truly believe that this group is trying to kill me .... I have lost the brakes in my car, PG&E found that a vent had been blocked releasing carbon monoxide into my living space, and I'm absolutely sure that my food has been poisoned ( see third link below ) ...

    Before you suggest it, I did try moving and I was followed and harassed, and the police have been useless ...

    Does any one care?

    https://sassygrrl32.hubpages.com/hub/Gangstalking-A-New-Hate-Crime
    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=490_1297716994
    https://www.kens5.com/news/Stalked-d...n-Antonio.html
    https://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter78.htm






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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    This sounds horrible. I am not sure I would know how to respond. Mindy

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    yes, I'm calling myself "chemical woman" now because it seems to fit and I will try for any humor possible in the face of what I'm going through ..
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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    Thank you Mindy,

    This is indeed horrible and the entire community is at risk. I came upon the perpetrators of these crimes accidentally and that could happen to anyone, and make no mistake, they are determined to cause me great harm. I have already lost a computer, a car, my pets, my business, and they are now working on destroying my health. If you read the information in the links that I've posted, you'll see that they work covertly making sure that the victim is the only one who is aware of these attacks. This is purposely meant to discredit the victim and to make them look insane. Once they achieve this then they can do whatever they want to the poor person.

    There are many victims of this group. I am the one being harassed but some of the community members doing the harassment ( and there are many ) are also victims. When I am able to spot them they seem like normal every day citizens ... citizens who are being recruited and lied to, or worse yet blackmailed .... Here is a video that shows how easy it is to get innocent people to attack a stranger just by waving a fake badge ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NDJl9j937EU


    In my book, throwing chemicals at someone constitutes assault with a deadly weapon and I am collecting data about the people involved. I am also working day and night to warn the community ... Since I started doing this the harassment has increased. Here are some of the results of my Craigslist postings about this subject, postings that were strictly factual with the same links that I have supplied to the Wacco community.


    flagged & removed: 3175795413 (local news and views) Are you being harassed and/or foll... - has been flagged for removal.
    flagged & removed: 3159762843 (pets) Local Crime Group Killing Pets - has been flagged for removal.
    flagged & removed: 3193435419 (local news and views) ARE YOU BEING STALKED and/or HARAS... - has been flagged for removal.
    flagged & removed: 3195895858 (general) Are you stalking an innocent victim ? - has been flagged for removal.
    flagged & removed: 3190622670 (general) Gang Stalking - 100s of People Attacking One Pe... - has been flagged for removal.
    flagged & removed: 3159635517 (politics) The Hidden Crime - has been flagged for removal.
    flagged & removed: 3165229998 (politics) Please be aware of Predatory GangStalking - has been flagged for removal.
    flagged & removed: 3169171973 (politics) ARE YOU BEING STALKED and/ or HARASSED? - has been flagged for removal.
    flagged & removed: 3175826692 (general) Knowledge is Power - has been flagged for removal.
    flagged & removed: 3166127545 (local news and views) Read this - has been flagged for removal.
    flagged & removed: 3180605165 (general) Are you stalking an innocent victim ? - has been flagged for removal.
    flagged & removed: 3162003389 (general) ARE YOU NOTICING A LOT OF DIFFICULTIES IN YOUR ... - has been flagged for removal.
    flagged & removed: 3162012487 (general) GANG STALKING EXPOSED - has been flagged for removal.
    flagged & removed: 3158461669 (general) ARE YOU BEING STALKED and/ or HARASSED? - has been flagged for removal.


    So who would be removing these postings? Obviously, someone does not want me exposing this practice.

    What is necessary here is community action. If you would like proof of what has happened to me then please write to me. I have lots of proof including written statements from others regarding the chemical smells on my property, a video of a strange man in my home, etc. etc. etc. ( Please write to me publicly as my private email accounts are often compromised. )


    Here is another lengthy but thorough description of this disgusting reality taken from one of the many online support groups who are trying to deal with this crime ... most of these things, as incredible as they sound, are happening to me ... I am in touch with others locally and nationally who are also suffering from this abuse... it's beyond disgusting ...

    Here's a link about Predatory Gangstalking

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    This sounds horrible. I am not sure I would know how to respond. Mindy
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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

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    Does any one care?
    I do. My sense is that you are "working too hard". We can all get unbalanced one way or another. I've been there myself.

    We've witnessed other members go out a little too far and after healing, they can look back and see how they had gotten untethered.

    On the bright side, if in fact this is in your head, then it may amount to a smaller problem then you think you have.

    Many people may not tell you what they really think of your concerns.

    Take care of your self, Rosanne.

    I hope this helps.

    Barry
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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    Thank you for caring, Barry ... it means a lot to me ...

    I do wish that this WAS in my head because, yes, then it would be much easier to address ...

    I do understand that this seems fantastic and hard to swallow ... unfortunately, this is by design ... by definition "covert harassment" is indeed hidden ....

    https://www.freedomfchs.com/index.html

    I am concerned though, as there does seem to be a collective denial about this and a disinterest in the proof that I offer, as if this couldn't possibly happen here or anywhere else ... since this denial is in the face of the many, many victims who have publicly told similar stories, .... and the many accredited organizations who are publicizing this and trying to help the victims, ... and the many petitions before Congress to investigate this, I find myself perplexed .... perhaps it's just too horrific to even consider ...

    Fortunately, others in the community believe me and have offered to help ... thank you so much for this !

    ... and my desire to make this public, in spite of any disbelief, might just keep this from happening to others ... or if it does, you might at least recognize it for what it is ... as they say, "knowledge is power"...

    Thank you, Barry, for giving me the opportunity to issue these warnings and to post this information ... it is wonderful to know that there is a venue which is not censored like Craigslist ...

    I have no doubt that truth will prevail ... it always does in the end ...


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    I do. My sense is that you are "working too hard". We can all get unbalanced one way or another. I've been there myself.

    We've witnessed other members go out a little too far and after healing, they can look back and see how they had gotten untethered.

    On the bright side, if in fact this is in your head, then it may amount to a smaller problem then you think you have.

    Many people may not tell you what they really think of your concerns.

    Take care of your self, Rosanne.

    I hope this helps.

    Barry
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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman" List of "HATE" groups in CA

    Recently on Rohnert Park Patch:

    After Temple Shootings, Are 'Hate' Groups in California a Concern?

    There are 27 such groups operating in California, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

    It's been less than a week since six worshippers at a Wisconsin Sikh temple were shot and killed.
    Hundreds gathered in Wisconsin on Wednesday to honor those killed.
    We have learned more about the shooter,including the former Army employee's connection to Fort Bragg (not CA)
    And concerns have been ignited about the work of extremist groups across the country.
    According to the Southern Poverty Law Center,there are 27 "hate" groups operating in California.

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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    How do we fight "organized crime" (which this is) with knowledge?

    It would be helpful if we could actually prevent these kinds of things.

    If this is happening to Roseanne as a retaliation for eviction, does that mean
    we need to be in fear if we evict an undesirable? Or in fear of calling the police
    when neighbors get drunk and rowdy, do drugs, and shoot guns? It may not
    involve gang stalking, but just one violent person can do a lot of damage.


    I'm wondering how widespread this actually is in Sonoma County? How would
    we know? Are the police investigating Roseanne's case, in addition to others?

    This seems like attempted murder, with PGE's proof of carbon monoxide pumped into her
    home, draining brake fluid, etc.

    These criminals seem well funded, and we all know that money rules. It would appeal to
    low lifes with no conscience. Although it could even be religious zealots, like those who
    murder doctors, (in God's name) who perform abortions. They could come from any of the
    "hate groups" that exist.

    Anyone can become a target, for any number of reasons, but it does no good to live in fear.
    We do have to be careful when dealing with mentally and emotionally unstable people. Although
    they can be very charming and manipulative in order to get what they want.

    If Rosanne can give us a few ways to deal with gang stalking, I'm sure it would be welcomed. She
    probably has more "knowledge" than most of us, but the torture continues.

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    Thank you for caring, Barry ... it means a lot to me ...

    I do wish that this WAS in my head because, yes, then it would be much easier to address ...

    I do understand that this seems fantastic and hard to swallow ... unfortunately, this is by design ... by definition "covert harassment" is indeed hidden ....

    https://www.freedomfchs.com/index.html

    I am concerned though, as there does seem to be a collective denial about this and a disinterest in the proof that I offer, as if this couldn't possibly happen here or anywhere else ... since this denial is in the face of the many, many victims who have publicly told similar stories, .... and the many accredited organizations who are publicizing this and trying to help the victims, ... and the many petitions before Congress to investigate this, I find myself perplexed .... perhaps it's just too horrific to even consider ...

    Fortunately, others in the community believe me and have offered to help ... thank you so much for this !

    ... and my desire to make this public, in spite of any disbelief, might just keep this from happening to others ... or if it does, you might at least recognize it for what it is ... as they say, "knowledge is power"...

    Thank you, Barry, for giving me the opportunity to issue these warnings and to post this information ... it is wonderful to know that there is a venue which is not censored like Craigslist ...

    I have no doubt that truth will prevail ... it always does in the end ...
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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    Shandi,

    You've obviously done some research ... thank you for that ...

    This is a very complex and dangerous problem and I don't know how to deal with it, to be honest. As long as these hidden groups exist, we are all in danger, because any one of us could run into any one of them at any time and we wouldn't know it. We could disagree with someone and before you know it we're "on the list" for harassment by the group. I've heard this called bullying on steroids but it's much worse than that ...

    I did not ask for this and I am not the kind of person to go out looking for trouble. I pretty much stay to myself, do my work, and I try to be pleasant to everyone that I meet. I did not ask for these tenants to be placed behind me ... it was beyond my control. I tried to reason with them but they did not care about my concerns and my life quickly became a living hell. Looking back on it, I wish that I had just moved, but that wasn't an option then. No piece of property is worth enduring constant aggression, gunfire and screaming in one's back yard.

    Regarding gang stalking, I have read that 70% of the victims are women. Mostly living alone. Easy targets. Like me.

    I know of one other victim in Sonoma County, also an older woman living alone. She is afraid to speak publicly, afraid of the consequences. She was a private investigator and responsible for criminal convictions. She has paid dearly for this and is in very poor health with constant unexplained illness. Our experiences are very similar. She has experienced break-ins, animal abuse, and theft and speaks of feeling drugged. She has a friend who fled to the East Coast after being attacked here by chemicals. He is also afraid to speak publicly, even to me, but she shares his emails with me as he tries to determine the chemicals used and the possible consequences ...

    So the only solution that I can think of is widespread exposure ... everyone must know about this ... it must become mainstream news before it can be stopped ... My energy is not great right now but I will do what I can to spread the word ... if they kill me, they kill me,... I've had a good life, .....but people are going to know about this before I die so here's how this evolved in my life ....

    Gang stalking starts off slowly ... at first you might notice that things are not where you left them in your house... they've been moved around. This is called gaslighting. This is achieved by break ins while you're gone and it's meant to make you feel confused, as if you're losing it ( which explains why I have a video of a strange man in my house ). Then you might notice things breaking around your residence. For me it was my animal traps and carriers which I left outside. Stems were broken off of my favorite plants. My bird bath was knocked over ... little things......Then you might notice more and more problems with your car, more then the usual maintenance or bad luck issues ... then you might notice more noise in your neighborhood ... loud cars going by, people honking, etc. Maybe someone throws some garbage on your lawn. All subtle things which you can pass off as just the grub of life, but it gets worse ...

    The next round of assault in my case had to do with massive computer sabotage ... all email accounts hacked ... ebay listings changed ... people messed with my online animal rescue group ... and finally viruses which destroyed my hard drive in spite of good strong protective software ....

    After that my landscaping started to die and my cats started to come home looking all crazy and pulling out their hair ... this is when I first started to smell chemicals and this is when I did my first research and came across the term "gang stalking" ... there are a couple of books out which describe the process very well ... one is called "A New Breed of Terrorism" by John Hall, the other is called "Cause Stalking" by David Lawson ..
    and here's another that I just found ....

    https://www.amazon.com/Closing-The-Gap-Gang-Stalking/dp/1453803319
    ...

    to see the role that chemicals play in gang stalking do a search using "gang stalking chemicals",,

    But back to gang stalking and what to watch for ....

    I work for myself, but if you work for someone else then another form of harassment might occur at your job ... I've heard of all kinds of job related problems ... this group will actually send someone official looking into your job to tell them that you are "a problem" in some way ... they will do the same with the neighbors, often waving a fake badge and telling people that you are under investigation for drug dealing, prostitution, child abuse, sexual misconduct, or some other awful thing ... they will also try to remove those closest to you by lying, bribing and threatening ... they wish to isolate you ....

    If this wasn't happening to me then I probably wouldn't believe it ....

    More later, if anyone's interested ...

    Quote Posted in reply to the post by Shandi: View Post
    How do we fight "organized crime" (which this is) with knowledge?

    It would be helpful if we could actually prevent these kinds of things.

    If this is happening to Roseanne as a retaliation for eviction, does that mean
    we need to be in fear if we evict an undesirable? Or in fear of calling the police
    when neighbors get drunk and rowdy, do drugs, and shoot guns? It may not
    involve gang stalking, but just one violent person can do a lot of damage.


    I'm wondering how widespread this actually is in Sonoma County? How would
    we know? Are the police investigating Roseanne's case, in addition to others?

    This seems like attempted murder, with PGE's proof of carbon monoxide pumped into her
    home, draining brake fluid, etc.

    These criminals seem well funded, and we all know that money rules. It would appeal to
    low lifes with no conscience. Although it could even be religious zealots, like those who
    murder doctors, (in God's name) who perform abortions. They could come from any of the
    "hate groups" that exist.

    Anyone can become a target, for any number of reasons, but it does no good to live in fear.
    We do have to be careful when dealing with mentally and emotionally unstable people. Although
    they can be very charming and manipulative in order to get what they want.

    If Rosanne can give us a few ways to deal with gang stalking, I'm sure it would be welcomed. She
    probably has more "knowledge" than most of us, but the torture continues.
    Last edited by Alex; 08-27-2012 at 05:08 PM. Reason: Fixed formatting
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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    I am the woman "chemical woman" was referring to.I can verify that she is an analytical and pragmatic woman whom I've known for 3 years.And yes,she is being stalked in the manner she describes...I've been a victim for almost 17 years now,but didn't know there was a term for it until recently.I also have a friend who too is very pragmatic and who has never been prone to paranoia.So when he started telling me that he was being stalked and covertly hit with chemicals,I sadly thought he had gone over the edge.Then "chemical woman"started telling me a very bizarre tale that so eerily matched my friend's.Too fantastic to make up.And all the details were the same!
    Though my experiences are different from theirs(I've had both good and bad "goblins"),I no longer have any doubt as to the veracity of what they experienced or the misery it has caused.Unfortunately, it is real and needs to be stopped...In the meantime,they need all support the can get!
    Thanks,
    Quidonyx
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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    Thank you Quidonyx and Shandi for standing publicly with me against these senseless crimes. Exposing organized crime is risky and requires bravery so if anything should occur in your lives that might constitute retaliation, please report that here.

    Thank you also to the kind man who recognized me in the post office today. Your offer of a VOC meter combined with a thorough search of the property was a God send and I look forward to your visit.

    Quote Posted in reply to the post by Quidonyx: View Post
    I am the woman "chemical woman" was referring to.I can verify that she is an analytical and pragmatic woman whom I've known for 3 years.And yes,she is being stalked in the manner she describes...I've been a victim for almost 17 years now,but didn't know there was a term for it until recently.I also have a friend who t oo is very pragmatic and who has never been prone to paranoia.So when he started telling me that he was being stalked and covertly hit with chemicals,I sadly thought he had gone over the edge.Then "chemical woman"started telling me a very bizarre tale that so eerily matched my friend's.Too fantastic to make up.And all the details were the same!
    Though my experiences are different from theirs(I've had both good and bad "goblins"),I no longer have any doubt as to the veracity of what they experienced or the misery it has caused.Unfortunately, it is real and needs to be stopped...In the meantime,they need all support the can get!
    Thanks,
    Quidonyx
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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    Would you elaborate on your "good and bad goblins"? You indicate that your experiences are different, but don't give a clue as to what they are. Would you be willing to share what and when
    you began to have these experiences, and if they're still happening, and if you might know what the trigger was? What kind of support would you like, and how can we support others?

    Quote Posted in reply to the post by Quidonyx: View Post
    I am the woman "chemical woman" was referring to.I can verify that she is an analytical and pragmatic woman whom I've known for 3 years.And yes,she is being stalked in the manner she describes...I've been a victim for almost 17 years now,but didn't know there was a term for it until recently.I also have a friend who too is very pragmatic and who has never been prone to paranoia.So when he started telling me that he was being stalked and covertly hit with chemicals,I sadly thought he had gone over the edge.Then "chemical woman"started telling me a very bizarre tale that so eerily matched my friend's.Too fantastic to make up.And all the details were the same!
    Though my experiences are different from theirs(I've had both good and bad "goblins"),I no longer have any doubt as to the veracity of what they experienced or the misery it has caused.Unfortunately, it is real and needs to be stopped...In the meantime,they need all support the can get!
    Thanks,
    Quidonyx
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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    Dear Shandi.
    I was assured by "chemical woman"that my response would be anon..Apparently,that is not the case.If you have further questions,please contact me by phone or email.
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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    At this point I must respond ... this woman is very brave to have posted anything at all ... every time that she has helped me in the past she has suffered. We are dealing with organized crime here folks, and until more people get involved we are only a few tortured individuals trying to survive against all odds. Victims are afraid to come out about this because these criminals will indeed retaliate, so though your questions are very good and aimed at helping me Shandi, it is best to let it go.

    Since I posted this story my computer was destroyed. It's a fairly new laptop, a gift from a friend after my last computer was destroyed, and there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. I was working yesterday and it appeared to be hit with an electrical current ... a wave of static across the screen and then dead. Fortunately, I was expecting this and transferred all important photos and text to online storage. I am looking for a good computer diagnostic person if any one should know of one.

    I am on a borrowed computer and all who support me are watching carefully to see if this computer is destroyed as well. As more happens to me, more people believe what I'm going through ... some consolation, at least ...

    Quote Posted in reply to the post by Quidonyx: View Post
    Dear Shandi.
    I was assured by "chemical woman"that my response would be anon..Apparently,that is not the case.If you have further questions,please contact me by phone or email.
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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    My apologies to all for being so curt yesterday.I was in extreme physical discomfort.No excuse though.
    I think Shandi's questions are generated by her concern and are valid.I will try to answer them when better able to.
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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    A friend sent me this information and I thought that it was accurate ... he has a show on talkshoe.com which exposes this protocol ... https://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/we...=120297&cmd=tc

    https://educate-yourself.org/cn/gang...w15sep06.shtml



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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    one more thing I wanted to add ... lately, I have been experiencing symptoms of heart attack ... these symptoms occur suddenly when I am home and never when I am out ... I have recently had all kinds of testing on my heart, and no problems were found ...

    I have been doing research about remote electronic weapons that are often employed by these groups ... I have never believed this information before ... it just seemed beyond belief ....but now I'm not so sure ... I just did a search combining "gang stalking & heart attacks" ... the results were chilling and I'm hoping incorrect ...

    I'm mentioning it though because I want the community to know that I do not have any heart problems ... I can and do hike many miles without any concern at all ... soooo, ... if I suddenly collapse from a heart attack then please be suspicious ...

    also, I received an email today which included a reference to a very old woman friend who rescues animals ... the email specified the town that she lived in and the email was from a stranger who shouldn't have access to this information ... I will be watching this woman carefully to make sure that she is not included in the harassment and I will continue to report all that happens to me and others around me ... whether you believe me or not, it is important to establish a written record ...
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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    Rosanne,
    Very concerned,but unable to reach you.Says "mailbox not set up yet".Please call me! Pat
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    Barry, you probably didn't realize this, but when you reduced my quoted text to a link, a lot of it got deleted. This is because I was actually quoting from two sources. Here's what got deleted:

    Predatory gangstalkers use the reaction of the targeted individual to the predatory gangstalkers against them. Every tactic that brings misery, distress, and loss is enhanced and accelerated, while those tactics that do not have significant impact are stopped. Predatory Gangstalking is an ever-improving protocol.

    Predatory gangstalkers use hi tech electronics in their activities against a targeted individual. They are known to use bugging devices, redirectors of telephone calls, GPS monitoring of vehicles, computer hacking, and many other electronic tactics. Other technology at their disposal includes jammers to jam cell phones and block recording devices, diverters to divert phone calls to and from target's phone, denial of service interrupters that prevent Internet communication of email or web researching, false busy signal generators, and mechanical disablers. In recent years, 'dischargers' that ruin all batteries instantly, including cell phone batteries, have been added to their arsenal. All of these electronics can be found for sale on the Internet or purchased on the black market. Predatory gangstalkers organize and upgrade all of their tactics, equipment, and resources against a target continually over time. Therefore, ultimately, the gangstalkers have a level of organized personnel and technology that parallels law enforcement, or in some cases, even a military operation.

    Unfortunately, predatory gangstalking is often a precursor to more serious crimes, some of which utilize military grade directed energy weapons to relentlessly physically torture a person over many years. This is the second wave of predatory gangstalking. In this case, the predatory gangstalkers presence recedes into the background in a targeted individual's life. Replaced in the forefront is technology, such as microwave, ultrasound, pulsed energy projectiles, and other modern day weapons that do not leave any trace behind after discharge. This phase is referred to as 'hi tech assaults' or 'electronic harassment.' These weapons target the central and peripheral nervous system, the eyes, and internal organs. They produce severe pain without evidence of injury, vision deterioration, and functional debilitation. They can be installed in surrounding vehicles, nearby structures, in remote locations, or in the target's home. By the time technological assaults are implemented, the targeted individual has no remaining credibility, support, or personal resources with which to obtain any help. Electronic harassment is a form of torture as defined under all treaties. Never the less, it may continue for years and even until the target dies.

    It is noteworthy that gangstalkers will stalk another groups' target if the targets attempts to escape their harassers by fleeing or relocation. This indicates an arranged cooperation and a loose affiliation among Predatory Gangstalking groups. This does not give targeted individuals much hope when in the midst of their situation.

    Who becomes a targeted individual? Targeted individuals have only speculation in their pursuit of determining why they were selected for Predatory Gangstalking. Speculation includes the idea that some people are selected in order to be a training project for new cells of gangstalkers coming into an area. Others have won court settlements which they believe then resulted in the onset of Predatory Gangstalking. Some people are whistle-blowers and have caused problems for wrongdoers with power, such as drug higher-ups, or corporations, or powerful and wealthy people and conclude this is the basis. Some people believe they were selected for being activists against a government or political power. Others believe their relatives, bosses, or neighbors set them up. Yet others believe they are this is a characteristic- based hate crime. Other believe that Homeowners' Associations target individuals with the help of HOA attorneys. For whatever the reason, it is usually true that once an individual is targeted for predatory gangstalking, they rarely are released from this devastating, strangling, encirclement of evil.

    Who can withstand such an encompassing assault on one's life? When stress, isolation, and desperation build up in a targeted individual, he or she will inevitably experience health problems. Many targeted individuals develop health problems due to stress, which most often include insomnia, hypervigilance, heart rate problems, declining immune systems, digestive disorders (irritable bowel syndrome, colitis, and ulcers), debilitating anxiety, depression, and acute traumatic stress disorder. Many targets are incorrectly diagnosed with mental health disorders as the direct result of describing to law enforcement, their families, or their doctors, the details of actual gangstalking incidences which are not believed by the hearer. Some targets are found unexpectedly deceased due to heart attacks. It has been reported that targets even committed suicide during the course of protracted PredatoryGangstalking.

    In conclusion, Predatory Gangstalking is an overwhelming and devastating assault on one's life in and of one's self. An individual who becomes a target of Predatory Gangstalking finds himself or herself in the midst of a sudden and seemingly irrational social nightmare. The elements of Predatory Gangstalking bring about a downward spiral in a person's life. The combined effects of Predatory Gangstalking often result in premature death. The tragedy is found in the fact that the actual cause of the multitude of problems in a target's life and the source of what brings about their premature death, which is Predatory Gangstalking, is not recognized by anyone other than the targeted individual. Therefore, the targeted individual lives and dies without validation or assistance. Further, the Predatory Gangstalkers have no accountablility and reap no earthly consequences for their lifestyle of torment of another human being for the majority of that person's life.

    Until society becomes aware that such predatory groups exist, and that gangstalkers perpetrate organized psychosocial and physical assaults upon individuals around the world, this type of sociopathic domination of an individual by predatory strangers will continue unabated.

    Until Predatory Gangstalking is identified as terrorism and organized crime, and until it is prosecuted as such, Predatory Gangstalking will continue to proliferate and extend further into society. There is no reasons to believe that the lifestyle of Predatory Gangstalking will do anything but increase in participation and sophistication.

    Without intervention from outside sources, those who are targets of Predatory Gangstalking will continue to be subjected to an existence of social isolation, mental torment, chronic debilitation, assaults, vandalism and theft of property, character assassination, deprivation of all human rights, legal helplessness, and premature death.

    Therefore, targets of Predatory Gangstalking look to the media and to the Internet to remove the blinders of disbelief that protects the practitioners of this merciless crime.It is the hope of all innocent citizens who are suffering this criminally-imposed hardship of terror, torture, and invisible imprisonment that public awareness will set them free.


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    A friend sent me this information and I thought that it was accurate ... he has a show on talkshoe.com which exposes this protocol ... https://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/we...=120297&cmd=tc

    https://educate-yourself.org/cn/gang...w15sep06.shtml



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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    another victim speaks out ... if you think that you can express yourself honestly in America, then think again ... if you're into any kind of activism or like to speak your mind, then you should find the time to listen to this ...

    https://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/we...43077&cmd=apop
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    Thank you for the private messages of support which I've received. There are many people now watching carefully to see if I experience further personal property damage, new illness, and/or computer and business sabotage. I will continue to report these things and I will continue to make connections with other victims for the purpose of exposing this. Once again, a huge thank you to those who have reached out to help.
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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    People have approached me asking what they can do to help. My answer is always the same, ... please use your networking skills to spread the word about this protocol of harassment. It is because it is hidden that the perpetrators of these crimes can harass anyone without consequence. A fellow victim sent this link to me, which clearly states the problem:

    https://justifiablydisturbed.wordpress.com/

    also, this harassment could not continue without the co-operation of many fine citizens who are duped into believing that they are doing something good for their community ... This is a video about how easy it is to wave a fake badge and coerce an innocent bystander into harassing a total stranger.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NDJl9j937

    and another account, from a victim, about the use of innocent community members to execute this harassment ...

    https://www.blogster.com/satancantha...s-110708161633


    Finally, I received word today about a brave victim in Oakland who has organized a public event to address these crimes. Here is the information about this: ( sorry Barry, there is no link to this information )


    COMMUNITY LEADERS CONNECT
    in conjunction with THE UNIVERSAL LEADERSHIP FOR POLITICAL ACCOUNTABILITY
    has organized an event of Health oriented Human & Civil Rights Activists
    to address the issues of covert crime in the Bay Area and elsewhere
    in addition to FILING FOR A FEDERAL (NATIONAL) GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION.

    Location: Oakland City Center; 1111 Broadway; Oakland, CA 94612;
    Date: Monday, October 29th 2012 Time: 11:30am to 4:30pm;

    This event is being filmed on location for television and internet broadcasting.
    As of Wednesday September 6th 2012 RSVP Confirmed Speakers (adding daily):
    Legendary Attorney Ann Fagan Ginger – Micklejohn Civil Liberties Institute
    Derrick Robinson - Director of Freedom From Covert Harassment
    Doug Millar – Private Investigator

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    One more thing, ... I would like to remind the community that I am in grave danger for exposing this protocol. I have been compiling written proof to document this harassment in my life and I will continue to do so.

    In the meantime, according to many reliable online sources ( which I will furnish upon request ), common methods for "silencing" me include; framing me for a crime which I did not commit, destroying my physical health with poisonings and chemicals, and destroying my financial health with business sabotage. Should any of these things happen to me, be very suspicious. As I have said repeatedly, this protocol for harassment is well documented and there are others which can testify that an identical protocol of harassment is happening to them. You have only to ask for these references to real people with verifiable contact information.

    I take these risks because it is important for the safety of the community that this be exposed.
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    So concerned about you Rosanne...Please give a call when you can.You braving the unimaginable.Take whatever time you can to spoil yourself in some small way.Replenish your batteries,if you will.This is a necessity,not a luxury.
    Love,
    Pat

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    One more thing, ... I would like to remind the community that I am in grave danger for exposing this protocol. I have been compiling written proof to document this harassment in my life and I will continue to do so.

    In the meantime, according to many reliable online sources ( which I will furnish upon request ), common methods for "silencing" me include; framing me for a crime which I did not commit, destroying my physical health with poisonings and chemicals, and destroying my financial health with business sabotage. Should any of these things happen to me, be very suspicious. As I have said repeatedly, this protocol for harassment is well documented and there are others which can testify that an identical protocol of harassment is happening to them. You have only to ask for these references to real people with verifiable contact information.

    I take these risks because it is important for the safety of the community that this be exposed.
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    To both Shandi and Surreal Woman,

    I am not comfortable relating anything concerning my situation over the Internet or by phone.I just saw that one of my "roommates" of 7 yeas was arrested for witness tampering,attempted murder,etc...Shandi,willing to relate my story,but only in person.I've related some of what I've been through to Surreal Woman and she understands my hesitancy. I still live only a mile or so away and live alone.And very ill at this point.Not aware of there being any connection between my being ill and what I've experienced(and still experiencing),but it has made me vulnerable.Open to meeting with the two of you any time you like.
    Quidoynx
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    Thank you for your concern, but I am fine. As knowledge and support in the community and elsewhere grows, I realize that this will be exposed for what it is... a very dangerous threat to whole communities.

    I am more concerned about my husband because he is now becoming involved. He wanted my help with an on-line business that he started and that business is now being sabotaged. I did warn him about this and now he's realizing that I was correct. He is elderly and not in good health and this situation is exacerbating that reality.

    This protocol does seem to target those who are least able to deal with it ... single women, the elderly, and those that are already struggling in some way ... it is beyond cruel ... may God help us all ....

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    So concerned about you Rosanne...Please give a call when you can.You braving the unimaginable.Take whatever time you can to spoil yourself in some small way.Replenish your batteries,if you will.This is a necessity,not a luxury.
    Love,
    Pat
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    I bumped into a friend who asked me how it was possible to sabotage someone financially ... in keeping with my goal to expose this criminal group I offer the following evidence, an attempt to manipulate funds in my Pay Pal account ...

    Pasted in from my PayPal account:

    We've finished reviewing your unauthorized activity claim and you'll
    receive a refund for the transaction amount. It may take up to 5 business
    days for the funds to appear in your account.

    Transaction Amount: -$471.78 USD

    ( if anyone would like to verify this actual event, then just let me know )

    add to that the cost of repairing and replacing vehicles and personal property because of vandalism and you get an idea of what I'm going through ... just recently I found that my oil pan had been loosened and all of the oil had been drained out of my car ... I can send you to my mechanic for verification of this ... he had checked the car thoroughly when I purchased it and this was not a problem....

    when I mentioned my husband's online business I am talking about online sales ... now imagine that a disproportionate number of your customers are returning items, or imagine well-packed, non-fragile items suddenly breaking during transit ... it's easy to arrange this if you want to hurt someone ... both I and my husband are suffering from these financial assaults and we are both watching this very carefully and keeping careful records ...

    Here, once again, is a link to interviews given by other victims of gang stalking and organized crime ... these are real people who are experiencing similar harassment ... scroll down and click on any interview to get a better idea of what is happening to innocent people in our country, ...

    https://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/we...=1&pageSize=15
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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    God,so sorry this is happening to you!
    Would you give me a call?Ready to join you and Geoff.Really sick and have no doubt I'm being exposed to some kind of toxin now.Still choosing to believe that my exposure is accidental.What ever it is,it's creating havoc with my central nervous system and a severe allergic reaction.Will explain how I know this.So sick and absolutely terrified...
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    I did go by your home to check on you but you were out... I have another friend who has begun to smell chemicals in his home since he has been communicating with me ... he will verify that this is happening to him which should help with exposing these crimes ... thank you for your support, Quidonyx, but please don't continue if you're experiencing retaliation ...

    Yesterday, while heading down Hwy 12, the rear window of my car blew out .. I'm so used to these events in my life now that I just pulled over and put the window in the back seat ... it's interesting to me that I can deal with all of this ... we really do have reserves of strength that are waiting to be tapped ...

    Another interesting development ... I am now frequently bumping into past roommates and their mail is being delivered to my mailbox ... several of these roommates were men and they were evicted because of extreme verbal abuse ... the pattern was always the same with wonderful, friendly guys suddenly turning on me for no good reason and screaming at the top of their lungs ... I wondered at the time if there was some kind of illness going around that provoked violent reactions ... one man start screaming because I put something of his in the dishwasher by accident, another man started screaming because I mentioned that the shower head was loud and squeaky ... I never understood their strong reactions but as these outbursts continued, it became obvious that I couldn't live with this ... perhaps these people were put in my home purposely to upset me ... if someone has access to your email accounts ( which is a proven fact in my case ) then it would be easy to send over the wrong kind of person to apply for your Craigslist ad.

    Here is an article that states " Key to the destruction of a gang stalking target is a full penetration and infiltration of their environs, including their constant surveillance and harassment in their home,"

    Continue reading at NowPublic.com: How Widespread Is Gang Stalking? | NowPublic News Coverage https://www.nowpublic.com/world/how-...#ixzz27KpHJvEl

    I have not read the complete article carefully and do not know if I agree with everything stated but the author is known for his many attempts to research and expose this protocol of harassment.

    I now wonder if this harassment is sexist in nature. I have many wonderful male friends and I certainly have no reason to attack men ( I've met many women that I wouldn't want to live with either ), but it would only take one man with deep-seated anger or rejection pain and an affiliation with a criminal group to provoke this retaliation.

    I've always tried to distance myself from verbal abuse, whether that abuse is initiated by males or females, but in the case of a woman evicting a man who is already feeling bad about past relationships, thus approaching a roommate agreement with some kind of hidden angst or agenda ... well, it's a set up for disaster. One starts off by trying to help another human being with an inexpensive room and ends up with some kind of aggression that is unexpected and unwanted.

    Would my cat have been stolen, my property vandalized, my vehicles destroyed, my animal rescue group annihilated, my health threatened, my finances compromised, and my privacy invaded if I had a penis instead of a vagina? Is this a method of control perpetrated by men to control women, ... strong women who have made the decision to eliminate abuse in their lives? According to my research, 70% of victims are women living alone. I do not know if this statistic is true but I do come across it often. If it is true then it is a scary reality in which secretive brute force is used to keep women "under control" in an otherwise advanced world that has overtly agreed to stop such practices.
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    Re: This is Surreal ... Update from "Chemical Woman"

    Dear Chemical woman",

    It's much easier for me to respond in person or by phone.Have you ever met Sandy in person?Believe she is trustworthy and looking forward to speaking with her.In the mean time,how can I help you?Never been subject to paranoia or fear of the unknown,and won't start now...
    Your'e a brave woman and I'll do whatever it takes to help.
    Please try to call again,
    Love,
    Pat
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    Thanks Pat! ... you can help me by taking care of yourself and by helping me to spread the word about this harassment. The sad reality is that the participants of these crimes are kept in the dark by the organization that involves them and they don't realize how they are being used and abused by a criminal group with destructive motives. They think that they are helping law enforcement to control a dangerous person in the community, when in reality they are destroying the life of an innocent victim. Here's one victim's appeal to these people:

    https://www.blogster.com/satancantha...s-110708161633

    There's a young man in Mill Valley who is also a victim of this harassment. He has an online radio program and he recently called attention to this link. If you are involved in this abuse then I urge you to read this, as it exposes what's really going on here and I believe that you too are at risk. To the general public, please do a search on "gang stalking" but keep in mind that information has been compromised by the organization and often appears surreal and unbelievable .. this is by design to discredit the victims and to keep the protocol in the realm of the " absurd ". But the truth IS coming out slowly but surely ....

    https://www.scribd.com/doc/104216412/The-Network
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