Hooters in Rohnert Park?

[Ronaldo]

It helps me to consider Hooters ladies as being in between the two ladies in the attached image.

[inezalea]

Jun 15th 2009 By The Hooters Girl

The Good and the Bad of Being a Hooters Girl
https://www.lemondrop.com/2009/06/15...-hooters-girl/
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Being a server is tough. And when you're doing all this in shiny, orange hot pants and a cleavage-baring top with a wide-eyed owl, well, it only gets worse.
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I've worked as a waitress for the last four years -- since I was 17 -- and I've been a Hooters Girl for the past eight months. But before you shout "Objectification!" here are the pros and cons of being a Hooters Girl.

The Dark Side
1. The Uniform
It's hard to say which part of the Hooters uniform is the most ridiculous: the miniscule, camel-toe inducing, unflatteringly-colored tangerine hot pants? The bodacious, "Flashdance" scrunch socks? The thick, suffocating, unnaturally colored pantyhose that require a gymnastics routine to peel on and off? Each time I wrestle myself into this outrageous ensemble, I struggle to comprehend how anyone can find such an absurd outfit sexy. Seriously, no one's ass looks good in shiny orange shorts!

2. The Dramatics
At any restaurant, a certain amount of gossip and conflict is inevitable. But when you're working with 30 to 150 attractive women in their late teens and early 20s, well, jealous bickering, immature backstabbing and angry tears are all too common. Allegations of table thieving, mascara stealing and pantyhose poaching are bandied about regularly and are damn near impossible to avoid. And it almost always ends in tears.

3. The Stigma
Whenever I tell someone what I do, I brace for their reaction. More often than not, it's negative. Many people -- who often have never even set foot in the restaurant -- carry a wealth of erroneous, preconceived opinions about the company and the women who work there. We're stereotyped as ditzy, slutty, gold-digging bimbos. They picture a strip joint filled with topless waitresses, wet T-shirt contests, body shots and hidden champagne rooms. In reality, we show less skin than the typical high school student. Also, the vast majority Hooters Girls are intelligent college students or working professionals.

4. Bizarre Rules
Like most corporate environments, Hooters has strict policies. But some of them are really bizarre -- seemingly inconsequential things like bobby pins or elastic hair bands are banned and grounds for termination. We can be fired regularly for things like rolling the waistband of their shorts (some girls who aren't as bootylicious as others do this to make their shorts fit better), neglecting to change torn nylons, or for wearing the wrong-colored bra (white or nude) – and it happens regularly. The turnover rate at Hooters is high, even by restaurant standards, but there is always a long list of girls who are eager to fill their places. Everyone is completely expendable.

5. The Customers
As part of my job description, I am required to engage customers -- many of whom are socially disinclined -- in conversation, coaching fully formed words from the ones who cannot look a woman in the eye without blushing and feigning interest in the ones who drone on and on while staring intently at my breasts. I tolerate horrendous body odor, tired jokes, hot sauce-smeared faces and enough sexual innuendo to make me want to switch teams.


The Good Stuff
1. The Money

Make no mistake about it; we're paid well for our troubles. While the hourly wage for a server is usually around $2, the average tip more than makes up for it. A server at Applebee's or Red Robin can expect about 15 to 20 percent, our tips begin at 20 percent. But it's more often around 50 or 100 percent, if not more. A Hooters Girl at a high-volume restaurant may leave for the night with several hundred dollars in her pocket. Whether these exorbitant tips are left out of appreciation or pity that we must dress like an '80s gym teacher is debatable.

2. The Lack of Physical Effort Required
In many restaurants, servers have a hefty amount of aptly named side work -- rolling silverware, busing tables, washing dishes, sweeping, mopping, and dusting the ridiculous array of assorted crap that is tacked to the walls in nearly every mid-level restaurant. At Hooters, such mundane chores are kept to a minimum. Instead, free time is spent entertaining customers, sitting and chatting with your tables and prancing around looking pretty.

3. The Atmosphere
Unless you are one of the cast members of "High School Musical," it's unlikely that your job includes dancing and singing. But these things are encouraged as a Hooters Girl. Choreographed dances, birthday chants, bachelor party songs, trivia games, scavenger hunts, hop scotch, hula-hooping ... those are just some of the activities we get to do. While working. And we learn fun bar tricks, like how to balance a pitcher of sangria on our heads without losing a drop, or how to pour a beer while swirling a hula hoop around our waist. And when we're not doing that, we're just chilling with our customers. You'd be hard-pressed to find a work atmosphere like this anywhere else.

4. The Camaraderie
When dozens of young women are faced with the daunting task of keeping a restaurant full of lecherous old men under control on a regular basis, a bit of a bond is formed. Though conflict between co-workers is common (see above), in the end, we all have one another's backs. This, combined with the almost brotherly sense of protection that the kitchen crew has for us, makes for a surprisingly secure and loving workplace.

5. The Customers
Though they may be few and far between, most Hooters Girls cultivate a crew of dependable regulars over time. These are the gentlemen who offset our most horrid customers and prevent us from becoming too jaded against men. We see them at least once or twice a week. They always sit in our section, tipping well and treating us even better. Over time, these guys often become close friends with their favorite Hooters Girls, the Hooters managers, and the kitchen staff. Occasionally, they become part of the Hooters family.

The Hooters Girl writes about life at the delightfully tacky restaurant and other things like sex, relationships and current events on her blog, "The Hooters Girl."

[ There are comments on this article that are worth a read as well. https://www.lemondrop.com/2009/06/15...hooters-girl/]

[Dixon]

Yes, the US is a "free" country -- free to exploit anything and anyone for profit, ethics and morals be damned.

Attila, if you're saying that a place like Hooters is any more exploitive than, say, McDonald's or some other business, and/or that it violates reasonable ethics or morals, well, go ahead and make your case.

[inezalea]

Philip DeFranco vs Mean-Faced Feminist Girl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrpn...el_video_title

Do you think this man is a philistine because he is unable to view a work of
Art without thinking about sex? Or do you think the bar for singleminded artistic focus has been raised so exceptionally high by the Wacco Gentlemen of this forum, that it is unfair and unkind to put a man of this simple fellow's ilk into an arena for our scrutiny. The man has made it clear that he has an evolved eye for what is artful, and a good deal of respect and admiration for the distaff subject matter of our discussion. Is it possible that what some would construe to be his flaw, or weakness, or victimhood, might be symptomatic of a treatable medical condition, perhaps nothing more than a simple ace of unmedicated ADD?

I shall take my time before judging or jumping to conclusions.

[podfish]

Yes, the US is a "free" country -- free to exploit anything and anyone for profit, ethics and morals be damned.

yeah, freedom's kind of a bad idea. It's so easily abused. I hate watching people do things I disapprove of. 'Cuz it's pretty easy to recognize those immoral bastards. Determining ethical and moral behavior's easy - anyone just knows it when they see it.

[eliselb]

It will be a wonderful day if we ever all agree to stop using women's sexuality to sell things. I'll never go to Hooters, and I'm no prude. I love to swim and sunbathe au naturale and am very left leaning. I have watched my nieces and daughters all struggle mightily with their self images growing up in our culture.

[Shandi]

It will be a wonderful day if we ever all agree to stop using women's sexuality to sell things. I'll never go to Hooters, and I'm no prude. I love to swim and sunbathe au naturale and am very left leaning. I have watched my nieces and daughters all struggle mightily with their self images growing up in our culture.

I don't think the day will come when we all agree on anything; that's diversity for you.

I think girls usually have self image issues, as do boys, when they get to a certain age.
I also don't think it's restricted to our culture. I don't know much about how it is for
teens in other cultures, but self image may be low on the list, if they're just trying to
survive. Growing up usually involves having some person or persons that we look up to,
for a variety of reasons. We may try to emulate them in whatever ways we can.
Peer pressure can be a very difficult for teens and young adults.

If we can remember our own struggles, it can offer remarkable insight to help us deal
with today's issues.

All we can do as loving adults in their lives, is to be an example they respect, and let
them know that we trust them to make good decisions. Of course, those decisions may
only come after some experimentation, and undesirable consequences. Hopefully
they get through it, like many of us have.

I rarely go to restaurants, since I enjoy my own cooking, but I'd give Hooter's a try,
at a quiet time. I don't like to eat in noisy places. It could be a way to get
some photography business. Most women with good self images love to be
photographed, and I enjoy being on both ends of the camera.

[Shandi]

Hooters wants to open a restaurant in Rohnert Park. See the PD article here. What do you ladies and gentlemen think of that?

Have you seen the Poll in The Community Voice? I think it's great to get people doing an actual vote.
So far it looks like about 40% wouldn't go at all.

I'd like to encourage the Wacco community to vote, so we can add our opinion to the rest.
Has anyone here voted on The Community Voice online poll? Care to share how you voted?
I understand that may be too revealing for some, maybe even most, but at least it would show
the restaurant some polling figures, which may be more important than just our comments here.

[The Owl]

Have you seen the Poll in The Community Voice? I think it's great to get people doing an actual vote.
So far it looks like about 40% wouldn't go at all.

I'd like to encourage the Wacco community to vote, so we can add our opinion to the rest.
Has anyone here voted on The Community Voice online poll? Care to share how you voted?
I understand that may be too revealing for some, maybe even most, but at least it would show
the restaurant some polling figures, which may be more important than just our comments here.

This is such a non issue - Yippie! ...another restaurant featuring unremarkable Americana food a la Denny's, etc... just what the area needs to maintain its general obesity... Oh - but the waitresses wear uniforms that are more like what a high school girl wears for gym class... I mean - we can't have our kids seeing what they see every week at school out in the world. - Come on... !

The thing for me is does the area really need another artery constricting restaurant like that? If it helps fatten Rohnert Parks business tax flow, apparently so.

[meherc]

This is such a non issue - Yippie! ...another restaurant featuring unremarkable Americana food a la Denny's, etc... just what the area needs to maintain its general obesity... Oh - but the waitresses wear uniforms that are more like what a high school girl wears for gym class... I mean - we can't have our kids seeing what they see every week at school out in the world. - Come on... !

The thing for me is does the area really need another artery constricting restaurant like that? If it helps fatten Rohnert Parks business tax flow, apparently so.

Yes, whereas the interminable discussion here about leafblowers in Sebastopol is really important stuff. Puh-leeze.
I, for one, would have second thoughts about going out with any guy who frequented Hooters. And sure wouldn't want my daughter to think that's the kind of job she can look forward to as a woman.

[meherc]

I don't think the day will come when we all agree on anything; that's diversity for you.

I think girls usually have self image issues, as do boys, when they get to a certain age.
I also don't think it's restricted to our culture. I don't know much about how it is for
teens in other cultures, but self image may be low on the list, if they're just trying to
survive. Growing up usually involves having some person or persons that we look up to,
for a variety of reasons. We may try to emulate them in whatever ways we can.
Peer pressure can be a very difficult for teens and young adults.

If we can remember our own struggles, it can offer remarkable insight to help us deal
with today's issues.

All we can do as loving adults in their lives, is to be an example they respect, and let
them know that we trust them to make good decisions. Of course, those decisions may
only come after some experimentation, and undesirable consequences. Hopefully
they get through it, like many of us have.

I rarely go to restaurants, since I enjoy my own cooking, but I'd give Hooter's a try,
at a quiet time. I don't like to eat in noisy places. It could be a way to get
some photography business. Most women with good self images love to be
photographed, and I enjoy being on both ends of the camera.

I wouldn't necessarily assume that Hooters waitresses have good self images if that's who you are talking about photographing. I've found that women who don't have such good self esteem focus on their looks to reassure themselves of their value. But on the other hand, hey, it's a living. Once again, not one I would steer my daughter toward.

[Dixon]

And sure wouldn't want my daughter to think that's the kind of job she can look forward to as a woman.

It's an option she has that's not open to me! Nothing wrong with having more options.

Many years ago I tried to get hired as a stripper at a club in S.F. that featured male strippers. Didn't get the job, though. :crying2:I guess it was because I wasn't buff enough (was kinda skinny in those days), and also I don't think they liked my long hair and beard look. Too bad, 'cause I'd have done a great job and would have enjoyed the dancing, and picking out my music too.

[Imagery]

Care to share how you voted?
I understand that may be too revealing for some, maybe even most, but at least it would show
the restaurant some polling figures, which may be more important than just our comments here.

If I cared enough to find the poll, I'd vote that I won't bother going there.

[Dixon]

Oh - but the waitresses wear uniforms that are more like what a high school girl wears for gym class... I mean - we can't have our kids seeing what they see every week at school out in the world. - Come on... !

You mean they're not topless? All this time I thought they were topless. People are getting all worked up over young women in tight t-shirts and short shorts????? The prudishness of Bible-thumpin' America knows no bounds!

[Shandi]

This is such a non issue - Yippie! ...another restaurant featuring unremarkable Americana food a la Denny's, etc... just what the area needs to maintain its general obesity... Oh - but the waitresses wear uniforms that are more like what a high school girl wears for gym class... I mean - we can't have our kids seeing what they see every week at school out in the world. - Come on... !

The thing for me is does the area really need another artery constricting restaurant like that? If it helps fatten Rohnert Parks business tax flow, apparently so.

It may be a "non-issue" for you and many others, but obviously for some, it is an issue, a controversial one. Rohnert Park, like
all other cities isn't in the health business, and fortunately aren't in charge of telling us what we should be eating or
looking at. Cities don't look at eateries with an eye to what's on the menu. They let the community decide
for themselves, which I'm in favor of. If any restaurant isn't patronized enough, it will die of "natural" causes.

I really don't know if the restaurant owners will be influenced by the poll....probably not, but it gives a way for the community
to express their opinions. I also don't know how many people would actually take the minute to do it.

I think that much of the food served in most restaurants isn't healthy, but again, the menu choices are up to us. If we want
to eat healthy food, we get to choose it, or not. I personally prefer to prepare my own food, since I know what's in it, and
I prefer my own cooking to any restaurant.

So, I wouldn't go to Hooter's for the food, but just to take a look at the cleavage, etc. I hope it's successful, only because I'll benefit in the long run if it helps Rohnert Park's finances. I'm not in the position of monitoring what people choose to eat or
look at, nor would I want to be. It's interesting to see how many seem to want to take that on, even though it seems irrational.

I've found in my lifetime so far, that there are always people who would tell me how and what to do. And I've also discovered
that there are many people who seem to want that. I see it as lack of confidence, and a desire to be free of the responsibility
of choosing for themselves. I never ask anyone "what should I do?" because I realize that they aren't in my skin. Even authorities have different opinions who've had exactly the same training. Ah, diversity rears it's head once again!

If only we could think, feel, and act as a unit, these problems would be solved. Those that feel strongly against Hooters,
could band together and picket, or fast until they faint. That might get a message to someone who can put a stop to this
"free enterprise" stuff.

[Shandi]

Yes, whereas the interminable discussion here about leafblowers in Sebastopol is really important stuff. Puh-leeze.
"I, for one, would have second thoughts about going out with any guy who frequented Hooters."

The problem is that you may not "know" because he may not tell you, especially now that you've
put all potential dates "on notice". That could be a good "qualifier question" from the get go. Next...

And sure wouldn't want my daughter to think that's the kind of job she can look forward to as a woman.

Part of the job of parenting is deciding what to allow your child to be exposed to, when you have that option, which
is the very early years, and only if you control every minute of their environment. They will ultimately be exposed
to things you never would have wanted, if you had a choice. Just because your daughter may think of the job as
a possibility, doesn't mean she would do it. Part of your job is to encourage and support your daughter's natural
interests....unless you don't agree with them, which is more common that we realize. Then she may do it, just
to rebel, knowing that you don't approve. Isn't that part of the teenage role? You don't mention her age, or what you'd like her to look forward to doing when she does start working.

[Shandi]

If I cared enough to find the poll, I'd vote that I won't bother going there.

The poll is easy to find under Community Voice online, but you mention that you don't care enough to find it, so
your vote doesn't count.

[Shandi]

I wouldn't necessarily assume that Hooters waitresses have good self images if that's who you are talking about photographing. I've found that women who don't have such good self esteem focus on their looks to reassure themselves of their value. But on the other hand, hey, it's a living. Once again, not one I would steer my daughter toward.

I wouldn't make the assumption that if a woman chooses to expose her cleavage and ass that she has "good self-image",
but it wouldn't stop me from asking if they would like photos. I've taken plenty of pictures of women who didn't have
good "self-images" who would never expose themselves, just because of that.

I don't take that into consideration when doing photos; otherwise I wouldn't have taken as many as I have. Women seem to come to life when I'm behind the camera, and their self image improves if only for awhile.

I think most women care about their looks...preserving or enhancing isn't a sign of lack of "good self image". Nor is wanting
to show it off. It may be, but then again it may not be.

I just got inspired to do something with the Hooters waitresses, but that will have to wait until we have some.

[Imagery]

I just found out that we have a non-corporate version of Hooters in Santa Rosa.
Last night, I went to play in the BCA pool league, and we played at Ticket's Sports Bar and Grille on Cleveland Avenue in Santa Rosa.

Skimpy black shorts - check
White tank tops with ample cleavage showing - check
Service that relied more on the previous two than actual service? - check

Yeah, not impressed when I wait ten minutes for a soda, after watching the server come back to the next table three times in the interim. When I went to the bar and asked her, she claimed she'd already put the soda on my table, although there were no sodas to be found...

[Shandi]

I just found out that we have a non-corporate version of Hooters in Santa Rosa.
Last night, I went to play in the BCA pool league, and we played at Ticket's Sports Bar and Grille on Cleveland Avenue in Santa Rosa.

Skimpy black shorts - check
White tank tops with ample cleavage showing - check
Service that relied more on the previous two than actual service? - check

Yeah, not impressed when I wait ten minutes for a soda, after watching the server come back to the next table three times in the interim. When I went to the bar and asked her, she claimed she'd already put the soda on my table, although there were no sodas to be found...

Well, I've waited for service longer that I thought was reasonable even in expensive restaurants, so
I don't think we can blame the poor service entirely on the skimpy shorts, and ample cleavage. There's a
"person" in those shorts, and your experience just shows that person wasn't paying close enough attention.

I don't think service relies on anything but "service". What a person wears has nothing to do with their
service.
It happens all the time, and not just in restaurants. It's upsetting not to be served in a timely manner, and
I bet almost everyone including yourself has had that experience more than once, and the server wasn't
wearing skimpy shorts and a tank top. What we do about it is up to us. You could upset her day, by
reporting her to the mgr. I doubt if one complaint would cause her to be fired, but if she does it a lot,
complaints will add up, and she'll be looking for work at the official Hooters when it arrives, and
make more money! So, her lack of service may get her a better paying job.

There's just no justice when it comes to those skimpy outfits and beautiful cleavage. :playboy:
Hef would never put up with that!

But thanks for letting us know where to go.