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    Iolchan
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    Re: Some Pictures of Hobbs's Takeover of the Jenkel Property

    Just the Facts, Ma'am…

    Quote GentiHouston wrote: “

    It continues to amaze me that our beloved West County community who preaches peace, love and progressiveness repeatedly assumes what other say to be the truth with very little additional information.


    I am sure that some of you know facts, maybe someone even knows all the facts, but I am also quite sure that most responding here are deriving their information from this thread and a few articles.

    I don't know all the facts and I am not defending Mr. Hobbs, but I do have personal knowledge that he tried to relocate some of the redwood trees - haven't seen that noted anywhere.

    And, as much as I love the waccobb experience (it has done many great things for me) I question the ability to go "viral" with possible incomplete information. I also do not believe that Mr. Hobbs or Mr. Jenkle for that matter, are required to respond to anyone's accusations, except the authorities. A similar situation happened last year with a post that several people jumped on the tar-and-feather wagon and then it just petered out, as there was nothing to back it up.


    We have strong feelings about the destruction of trees and yet we have no qualms about the destruction of a man.

    Let us not be afraid to take this issue on, and stay with it, and not “just let it peter out.” Let us establish a Fact-finding Committee. Let us begin by establishing some of the Facts, as they may be ascertained, and are known:

    A) John Jenkel is a Stanford man; he graduated at the age of twenty-one. He came from a good family. He is smart. Facts.


    B) John Jenkel purchased his original 15 acres on hwy 116, in 1965, at the age of twenty-six, with his own hard-earned money – and with only a little help towards the down payment, from his wealthy father. Fact.

    C) All his adult life, John Jenkel has been a hard-working man - as a building contractor, rancher & horseman. He was rich; once, and was, for years, a respected member of the Graton & Sebastopol Community. He raised his children – four of them, in the Community. Fact.

    D) John Jenkel has always been – and still is - a registered Republican; from the Secular, Humanist, Constitutionalist wing of the Republican Party. Fact.

    E) John Jenkel used to work for the Bohemian Grove - as the driver of his own team of horses; he pulled the Casket in their “Cremation of Care Ceremony” for many years. Fact.

    F) In 1998, A young wiz-kid vintner, Paul Hobbs, and his brother Matthew Hobbs, bought nineteen land-locked acres adjacent, and just to the North of Mr. Jenkel’s 15 acres on hwy 116. Fact.

    G) The Hobbs brothers approached Mr. Jenkel and asked him if he would grant them an easement through his property so that they could gain access by road to their land-locked 19 acres; allowing them to build a winery – which was represented to Mr. Jenkel as a wooden, Mid-Western style, Barn. Fact.

    H) John Jenkel agreed to grant them this easement; asking for no money at all – merely the consideration: 1) That they would leave intact, and agree not to log a grove of sixty trees which he loved, that were one hundred and twenty-five years old, adjacent to his own land, and 2) That they would grant an easement for a Public trail along the northern boundary of their property, that would link a foot-trail from Santa Rosa, with a foot-trail to the Coast. The Hobbs brothers agreed to these terms. Fact

    I) On September 11, 2001, Mr. John Jenkel, Republican,gentleman Equestrian, West-County Squire, had a life-changing epiphany – an inciting incident, that forever changed his life: he was able to see through the media send-up of the staged “Attack” on the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center, and realized that it was “an Inside Job.” Fact.

    J) From that point on Mr. John Jenkel became obsessed about the events of 9/11, and a man with a mission. In a manner similar to the way that the late Mae Brussell, liberal Kennedy Democrat, saw through the Media version of November 22, 1963, and was galvanized to begin years of Research & activism, exposing the perpetrators of the Kennedy assassination and cover-up; John Jenkel was galvanized by the events of September 11, 2001. He became, in like manner, a compiler of a vast corpus of Information, which he assembled in his study, in a plethora of white binders. Fact.

    K) John Jenkel came to the conclusion - through careful clipping of numerous news articles and data from the internet - that some of the favorite sons of Bohemian Grove, notably Ken Lay, of Enron, Inc, and George W. Bush, were behind the planning & execution of 9/11. Fact.


    L) In 2002, John Jenkel began to go public, at Peace Rallies and anti-War Marches, taking his Conservative stand against the invasion of Afghanistan, and the Un-constitutionality of Public Law 107-243, to the streets. He began to pro-actively express his First Amendment prerogative, and speak openly in every public forum he could find, and state publicly that 9/11 was an Inside Job, because of which, Public Law 107-243 was the equivalent of a Coup d’etat against the Constitution. Fact.

    M) Public Law 107-243 is the Law that gave W. unlimited war powers to conduct unlimited wars against “Terrorism” anywhere on the planet, in violation of the U.S. Constitution. As a Constitutionalist, John Jenkel was opposed, in principle, to this abrogation of the Constitution. Fact.

    N) Also, in 2002, the Hobbs brothers cut down four of the trees in the grove that they had promised to protect under the terms of the easement agreement they had signed with Mr. Jenkel. From that time, Mr. Jenkel informed them that he wanted nothing more to do with them. Fact.

    O) John Jenkel, having morphed from being a privileged, if lower echelon, & hired member of the Bohemian Grove, to being an outcast, & pariah to the Republican Party top brass, attributed his ostracism to the machinations of Willie Brown. Factoid – to be examined…

    P) John Jenkel took his mission for 9/11 Accountability very seriously, and at every opportunity stumped for the Cause, to demand publicly of various elected officials that they get behind his push to repeal Public Law 107-243, and to end Martial Law, and to withdraw the troops from Afghanistan and Iraq… Fact.

    Q) He also hired many part-time employees to carry and hold signs and banners with bold statements decrying the guilt of the perpetrators of 9/11. He says that he has spent over one million dollars in this Cause. Fact.

    R) By his incessant public appearances, over the course of nine years, stumping for 9/11 accountability, in the Sebastopol City Council, before the Sonoma County Board of Supervisors, in the Sonoma County Court-house, and in Sacramento, John Jenkel eventually made himself tiresome to the powers-that-be, even to some of those who had been, in closet, somewhat in agreement with his “good intentions.” Factoid - to be examined…

    S) In a similar manner, the local Left, and the Peace & Justice Community, though originally considering him to be interesting, & something of a novelty, eventually tired of him, when the novelty wore off. Through his combative, in-your-face manner, John Jenkel was in part responsible for some of this eventual ennui surrounding his one-man 9/11 Truth crusade.

    The "audacity of hype" syndrome also may have contributed to his coming to sound like a broken record to some... Another plausible explanation is the human tendency to despise Cassandras and to stone the bearers of bad news; as well as the Left’s
    own unconscious shame at being outdone and out-distanced in anti-War zeal by a man they perceived to be of the Right.

    In reality, John Jenkel’s own political path may have led him, unconsciously, to a political position somewhat akin to the camp of the old Jacobin
    wing of the early Republican Party - with
    Charles Sumner, Wade Davis, Zachariah Chandler, and Thaddeus Stevens. Hypothesis – to be examined…

    T) On the home front, even while he was out on the streets, and in the city councils and Courthouses, fighting the "good fight," John Jenkel found himself being put upon by his winery neighbors, through a series of mandamuses and torts. He retaliated, in Court, with a series of Responses & Petitions; and at home, by lining up a bunch of old junk cars along the driveway of the easement he had granted to the Hobbs Winery, LLP, and placing anti-war and anti-winery propaganda on the rusted hulks of these junk cars. Fact.

    U) Somehow – no one who was not present in the Courtroom for all of the pre-trial motions, & hearings, et cetera, et cetera, knows how - John Jenkel was found guilty of god knows what by the Superior Court of Sonoma County, and ordered to pay 350,000 dollars in damages to his winery neighbors, for allegedly damaging some of the trees in the grove they had promised to maintain for the consideration he had requested; for the easement he had freely granted them in the first place. Convoluted, I know; I didn’t make it up… Facts? – Please! - Open to Inquiry…

    V) This alleged “damage” was supposedly done because Mr. Jenkel’s well was spitting out sand for a period of seven months one winter, after it had run dry on account of the winery having run the water-table down. Water from Mr. Jenkel’s well supposedly ran down a thirteen degree slope above the trees, and caused one of the trees to fall down. Fact? – Open to Inquiry…

    W) The trees – all of them - were cut down, anyway, by the Hobbs LLP, and instead of one “Mid-western wooden barn,” there is a complex of four very ugly steel-beamed buildings that Mr. Jenkel likens to Auschwitz, and calls “Stalag 116.” Fact.

    = I agree with him: it does look like Auschwitz. =

    X) Mr. Paul Hobbs and his LLP partners, were then able, somehow – again God knows how - to swing a sweetheart deal with the Court and purchase seven acres of what was formerly Mr. Jenkel's land in three allegedly closed to the general public “Auctions” in a back room of the Sheriffs Department, for cents on the dollar. The last piece, a parcel of three acres, was acquired by Paul Hobbs in a closed “auction” for a mere one thousand dollars. – Facts? - Allegations ? – Worthy points of Inquiry, certainly.

    Y) Mr. John Jenkel maintains that he has been defrauded of his property and tenements by a Limited Liability Partnership who were willing to be used as a proxy by former governor Arnold Shwarzenegger and his sponsor and financial uncle, Enron investor Warren Buffett in their vendetta to punish him because of his nine-year political career of tirelessly stumping for repeal of Public Law 107-243, and the repeal of Martial Law, that has been in place, ever since the traumatic aftermath of 9/11. John Jenkel maintains that such procedures and land- seizures are inherently un-Constitutional, and could only happen because we are still under Martial Law. And - lo and behold - Public Law 107-243 is still in effect. Fact.

    Z) The Sum of all these circumstances and points - and all of the unresolved Questions that still remain in the minds of many people do merit a worthy Subject for an Open, Public Hearing – and a Committee of Inquiry into all of the allegations of Citizen John Jenkel. Fact.

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    I disagree with the implications inherent in the statement that neither “Mr. Hobbs or Mr. Jenkle for that matter, are required to respond to anyone's accusations, except the authorities.”

    The point of having a Town Hall meeting is to establish the ground for an Objective, Public Inquiry into all the issues relating to this case: it is a Forum in which to ask Questions, decently and orderly, according to Robert's Rules of Order - not a venue for "accusations."

    On the other hand, if the “Authorities” themselves are guilty of malfeasance, or have use the Court to persecute and penalize any Citizen for political reasons, then the Judges themselves, who have done that which is wrong, must be held accountable for their actions; if not in Time, by an alert citizenry, certainly in eternity. There is no hiding place from the bar of Justice, and there is no throne or seat of authority on earth that is not subject to the final Judgment --and to the critical Light of truth– whether that Judgment be literal or allegorical...

    Consider also, what happened in 1647, in Britain. The Parliament put the King on trial. He was found guilty of treason, and of making needless war against his own people. Perhaps he should have been shown clemency, and should not have been beheaded. But he was guilty of the charge.


    - Mark Walter Evans
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    Re: Some Pictures of Hobbs's Takeover of the Jenkel Property

    Yo, Mark, your list of facts is quite helpful in sorting things out, but I'm puzzled by the first section in your list:
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    ...John Jenkel is a Stanford man; he graduated at the age of twenty-one. He came from a good family. He is smart.
    How is Jenkel's being a Stanford man, coming from a "good family" (whatever the hell that means), or being smart relevant to the issue of whether he's credible, or right or wrong, or deserves our support? Do smart people, or those from Stanford or from "good families" deserve our support more than others?
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    Re: Some Pictures of Hobbs's Takeover of the Jenkel Property

    Who is John Jenkel?

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    Dixon Wragg wrote:

    Yo, Mark, your list of facts is quite helpful in sorting things out, but I'm puzzled by the first section in your list:
    Quote Iolchan wrote:
    ...John Jenkel is a Stanford man; he graduated at the age of twenty-one. He came from a good family. He is smart.
    How is Jenkel's being a Stanford man, coming from a "good family" (whatever the hell that means), or being smart relevant to the issue of whether he's credible, or right or wrong, or deserves our support? Do smart people, or those from Stanford or from "good families" deserve our support more than others?
    Good questions, Dixon. I love dialog, and the opportunity to answer questions, as they arrive, in the minds of others. So thank you.

    Of course, the mere fact that John Jenkel is a “Stanford man” and "smart" should not make him one whit more deserving of our support - or interest - than every homeless and ragged and simple Chicano laborer who stands in front of Graton Hall imploring each passing car for Labor to help him earn his daily bread.

    - And the fact that John Jenkel came from a “lower upper-class” family from San Francisco, and that his father was a millionaire, certainly does not make him any more worthy of our support in my book. Not one whit more worthy. - It just shows what they { Yeah, that's THEM, Inc., folks } will do to a man, even though he be of the lower upper-class, if he "steps out of line."

    {which phenomenon might signal to us, that if we own "property" in California, the title might not be all that secure these days, folks. Of course, if you happen to be an anarchist, and agree with Pierre-Joseph Proudhon that "property is theft," you might not give a damn about what has happened to "poor Mr. Jenkel." But you still might concede that some property is more theft than other property - and that some times, ironically, it is the same property that is more theft - in some circumstances... as it is in this case. You may quote me on that one.}

    I just felt that these were important points to state at the beginning of our fact-finding mission into what has gone down in this case. I was paraphrasing what KellytheSinger had written about John, earlier in this thread, and confirming it. These are facts.

    We are establishing who John Jenkel is, and who he was before 9/11: He was John Jenkel, Republican, gentleman Equestrian, respected member of the Graton and Sebastopol Community, and West-County Squire. He came from the lower upper-class; he was a Stanford man. He worked at the Bohemian Grove for years, as the drover of his own team of horses pulling the wagon carrying the casket in their damned Name:  cremation_of_care.jpg
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    "Cremation of Care Ceremony."

    These are all facts about the man.

    Significantly, he says of himself: "I am not a political activist.... I am a coachman-turned-corruption fighter." Now the former coachman is in debt to the tune of $300,000 in a very Questionable Judgment that was orchestrated by a series of Judges who sit on the Bench of the Sonoma County Superior Court; his Property Rights have been trodden down, and half of his land has been gobbled up by the ugly agribiz Winery that squats next door to his rendered horse-farm.

    John Jenkel has quite obviously – for those who have the eyes to see, and care to look intently - been made a ”public example.” He has been made to walk the plank. As I wrote before, paraphrasing Idi Amin: “This is what happens to bad mavericks.”

    As Stephen Stills sang long ago: “Step out of line, the Man comes and takes you away.” In this case, John Jenkel is still here, but his ears have been clipped, and he has been shorn of all the increase he earned during the hard work of his lifetime.

    Had John Jenkel not stepped out of line – had he, like sixty percent of American Society, in the aftermath of 9-11 gone into denial or just refused to believe that our government could ever, possibly do anything so dastardly =OR= had he stuffed his outrage about what was obviously, to him, an Inside Job” on 9-11, and had he just decided to remain a silent non- citizen and keep his mouth shut, on the issue of the criminal imposition of Martial Law upon American society by the Bush-League, and had he not stumped, actively, for almost a decade, for the Repeal of Public Law 107-243, I am sure he would not be in the position that he is now.

    = Jon Box is right about one thing: John Jenkel did " bring it all on himself." =

    Obviously, he was fed to the wolves, and his "fate" was meant to serve as a Sign - a not so subtle example to the rest of us, of what will happen in the Future to anyone who chooses to step out of the anonymous herd of zeks - or, in this case, out of the shadows of Bohemian Grove - and pro-actively exercise his or her First Amendment Rights in the Polis =OR= exercise our ancestral, Common-Law, pro se, Right to represent Ourselves as Citizens, as Sovereign Individuals, as Men, as Women, as Humans, without a Lawyer, before the Court...
    = which one may not do under Martial Law =

    John Jenkel, what ever his faults may be, is still a rare individual - one of the last of the dying breed of Anthropos Politicanus left among us. He deserves a Public hearing. And others - who have the energy of Youth, should take up his torch and work towards repealing Public Law 107-243.

    - Mark Walter Evans


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    Re: Some Pictures of Hobbs's Takeover of the Jenkel Property

    thanks for lining up some of the facts. as i understand jenkel, the water from his well which hobbs claimed damaged his trees was from a self purging sand filter jenkel installed to deal with the water drawdown from hobbs vineyard well. not a malicious leak as hobbs claims. the original civil case is now in the court of public opinion. this is democracy.

    my personal experience is that big old trees sometimes fall down, especially in winter. i don't think hobbs likes his neighbor, knows nobody else in local government does either, and used the county. civil court system to take jenkel's land. hobbs clearly cares more about wine and money than trees. hobbs has a choice to respond, and his silence does not speak well for him. jenkel has responded, and as usual does not speak well for himself.

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    Re: Some Pictures of Hobbs's Takeover of the Jenkel Property

    yes ross, this sure is a wonderful forum

    yes ross, this sure is a wonderful forum,
    in our post-modern, "cyber democracy" fall;
    but still there remains a more excellent quorum:
    = that old new england "town - meeting" hall =

    but then, here's the problem; as i see it:
    we dwell in the land of fruits and nuts;
    and also i might add, +++, there's plenty
    of flakes here - which is one of the reasons,
    in most conversations, there's so many "buts"
    ...
    if we had traditions like back in new england
    with town meeting halls on every hand =or=
    old pennsylvania, among those old pines;
    where amish and mennonite farm-folk
    are all wholesome, and help one another
    as much as they can =or= in oklahoma,
    where - you might consider - they've got
    farm aid, and okies raise barns;

    then maybe, now, some one just
    might have kind a' considered,
    to visit john jenkel & lend him a hand...

    but now he's gone mad; and they all say "too bad"
    =it has become a shibboleth, too=
    but i think his prose, now, could just use an edit;
    there's plenty of "truth" still; left in his brew...

    = Mark Walter Evans =



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    Re: Some Pictures of Hobbs's Takeover of the Jenkel Property

    Hey, Mark--

    I'm flattered that you think my opinion is so important that you wrote a long poem imploring me to respond to your earlier post, though I don't know why you posted that poem to a different thread. Don't take my non-response personally. I'm way behind on things, even on responding to posts in the comment threads of my own Wacco column "The Gospel According to Dixon". I didn't even know what posts you were referring to until I came back to this thread and dug them up.

    Please note that your having posted does not convey upon others an obligation to respond, especially if you're not directing a question to them.

    Having said that, and understanding your position a little better now, I stand by my assertion that your references to Jenkel's being from a "good family", a Stanford man, smart, etc. are irrelevant to the current discussion. I hope that's enough response to satisfy you, because it's likely all you're gonna get from me on that subject.

    Cheers;

    Dixon
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    Questions and Answers

    Q. Why can’t we enjoy the experience of Life the way we were able to do when we were
    two years old?

    A. Because we are stuck at
    twenty, at the level of lazy sophomores, hazing freshmen, and trying to force-fit the phenomenal World into categories, instead of seeing it as an integrated Whole.

    How many Ism’s are there? Quite a few. How many categories? I submit, even more. Why not just try to enjoy the world as a Manifestation of a plethora of random Meaning - all of it important, and all of it meaningful - and none of it appropriate material to be pidgin-holed?

    Conversely, also - and this is not a contradiction - one of the reasons we so often
    fail to understand the Phenomenal Reality of the World outside ourselves, is because our own conceptual framework contains too few categories.

    Let me attempt to expand your conceptual horizons, just a little, to include the category: “Stanford Man” among the Subjects that are
    Germaine to this discussion:

    The fact that John Jenkel was a
    Stanford man and the further fact that he was the Coachman for the Bohemian Grove both mean a great deal if we are attempting to understand the back-story of this present drama.

    - And for the same reason that we may obtain a better understanding of why
    Bobby became
    a member of the Bohemian Grove after Jerry died, when we realize the significance of his last name, Weir. The Weirs have been - since the time there was a Stanford University -
    on the Board of Trustees, as hereditary members of the Board of Trustees. Bobby was the black sheep of the family, who got into Sex, drugs, and Rock & Roll, back in ’64. It was always pretty inevitable, though, that he would eventually be reeled back in to the Club, to partake of the spoils of his Class. { That's Class as in Class-consciousness, kids; not class as in "class of '70," which Bobby did not make, having gone "down the road feeling bad," on that "long strange trip." }

    I maintain that it is also valid, and relevant to this conversation to say of John Jenkel that he is smart – as in “ I may be stupid, but at least I’m not crazy” =OR= “I may be Crazy, but at least I’m not Stupid.” Pick your poison.

    In this case, our man is averred by the
    Jury of the kept press; reporters for the Times Light, and the News director at KRCB, to be “Crazy.” But friends of his – and observers, too, such as myself, aver - ”Well at Least he is Smart.”
    I rest my case.

    - Mark
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    In this case, our man is averred by the
    Jury of the kept press; reporters for the Times Light,
    and the Station manager at KSRO,
    to be “Crazy.” But friends of his – and observers, too, such as myself, aver - ”Well at Least he is Smart.”
    I rest my case.
    - Mark
    KSRO Station Manager Kent Bjugstad tells me that he does not know John Jenkel or who he is. Can you explain your accusations regarding KSRO? Where did you hear or read that the station manager holds this view?
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    KSRO Station Manager Kent Bjugstad tells me that he does not know John Jenkel or who he is. Can you explain your accusations regarding KSRO? Where did you hear or read that the station manager holds this view?
    Good point, News Radio Tony, and thank you for serving as an unpaid copy-editor for me. It was Bruce Robinson, the news director at KRCB radio, who said of John Jenkel, Esquire {who prior to September 11, 2001, had been a respected gentleman Squire of the Apple Country for thirty-five years} that he was a “crazed old farmer.” Here’s a link:

    https://www.bohemian.com/bohemian/05...nmic-1120.html


    “John Jenkel is opinionated, overbearing, delusional and stubborn. His conspiratorial rants and paid screed-readers have delayed countless public meetings for years. But while Jenkel has been raving about ominous machinations that only he can see, a very real enemy, literally right next door, has disdainfully taken the crazed old farmer's measure, and is coldly executing a methodical fleecing.” – Bruce Robinson, news director at KRCB radio.

    Now, concerning your statement:

    KSRO Station Manager Kent Bjugstad tells me that he does not know John Jenkel or who he is.”

    I find that very interesting. Perhaps it is So = and then again= Perhaps it is Not So. If it is - shall we say - just a little fib, or perhaps a case of Plausible Denial, let the Station Manager of that Radio station refresh his memory Here:

    https://www.ksro.com/Programs/KSROAM...tryID=10243231

    O, and by the way, News Radio Tony, it was you, earlier in this thread, who provided that link, here:
    Quote News Radio Tony wrote:
    John Jenkel and Paul Hobbs both called-in to KSRO this morning to give their perspectives on the response to the clear cutting of the property on Gravenstein Highway. Both had more to say than the original topic. The links below should take you to the archived interviews.

    NEWSTALK 1350 KSRO Interview with John Jenkel on Gravenstein Highway Property Clear Cutting; June 01,2011

    NEWSTALK 1350 KSRO Interview with Paul Hobbs on Gravenstein Highway Property Clear Cutting; June 01, 2011
    so I thank you. If Mr. Bjugstad really has no knowledge of who Mr. John Jenkel is, I suggest he has had his head in the sand - or maybe perhaps some where else - and should familiarize himself with this thread; and with this article, from the Times Light:

    https://www.pressdemocrat.com/articl...nion/110609844


    But then, really who does know John Jenkel ? Did any of You ever taken the time to visit him, while he was fighting Hobbs LLP in a series of eight lawsuits, all of which Hobbs LLP initiated? And all of you West County types – his Neighbors – chant & prate, endlessly, about “Conscious Community" !

    As I have amended a former post to this thread {135416} to read :


    Go to the Horse's Mouth


    Perhaps you good people - those who really do care about this Issue, and the fact that an Elder has been abused - quite apart from the fact that the Earth has been raped upon half of his land - should take it in heart and mind to go, and make a personal appearance at John Jenkel's desecrated homestead, and take the time to Visit him, and offer the poor man some - you know - Aid and Comfort.

    Does anyone Remember how to do that, any longer? Is it a Reflex that we have lost - or perhaps never learned and cultivated?... Never-the-less, it is a Mitzvah, and there is a Blessing involved in actually doing so...

    You All know how to get there, don't you? It's not like this thing was done in a Corner now, was it?

    I repeat: It is a blessing to visit those who are sick and in prison, widows and orphans; the downtrodden and dispossessed, in their afflictions. Yahshua said so. And so did Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and all the other Ha'Neviim, the Prophets who are dead and gone...


    - Mark Walter Evans-
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    Re: Some Pictures of Hobbs's Takeover of the Jenkel Property

    If Paul Hobbs thinks he is doing our community a real service by eliminating blight, let us remind him that our water, air and soil will be negatively impacted by his plans. Paul Hobbs and his business associates do not have many friends in this community, 6,000+ page views will testify to that fact. Given these circumstances, he could engage in some dialogue and enlist the support of an entire community to practice the right kind of stewardship instead of just "taking and, then, taking some more." It is my humble opinion, that someone who is concerned about the spirit of trees and protecting them can be trusted a good deal more than someone who so insensitively destroys them.

    In truth, no one owns the land. Not me, not you, and certainly not Paul Hobbs.
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    Iolchan
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    Six thousand, three hundred and sixty and counting...

    Six thousand, three hundred and sixty and counting, dominus… Because it is a vitally important story, for many reasons that effect us all; a story with ramifications that reverberate far beyond the scenic corridor of highway one sixteen, and the neighborhood of the formerly lovely apple towns of Graton and Sebastopol, which are now far along in the process of “vintrification.”

    Hey ! if there are people in the WaaccoBB circuit who would be interested in forming a “Cabal,” let’s call it, of five people, to approach John Jenkel himself, and interview him and make a Documentary of him and his spiel, I throw my own hat in the ring as a challenge to all you locals. We need a camera-man, or better yet a Camerawoman! We could also use the skills of a tough, focused Woman who possesses plenty of chuztpa and has interviewing skills on a par with the late Oriana Fallachi; who can get Mr. Jenkel to focus, and stay on track with her pointed Questions. We could also utilize a Producer and a Director in the Cabal, for said documentary, tentatively entitled LAND-GRAB ... we also could use a digital or video-cam film editor, with the skills to polish the final product, and post in on YouTube.

    Meanwhile, If you would like to spread this story even further, you may copy the following missive or you may write your own, and post it all over the internet, as I have been doing.

    - Mark Walter Evans


    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



    Dear ________________

    Please regard this as a Letter that carries with it a certain amount of Responsibility. Please Read it, and check out the Links. It is an important story - one which concerns everyone who loves trees and people; who cares about the environment, ecology, and also civil rights, property rights, and vast weighty realities like “free speech,” the political persecution of all heretics and dissidents - and Social Justice - and Injustice. Please, feel free, also to post this e-letter on to all of your friends and relations...

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    A Newsworthy Under-reported Story


    At a time when, in spite of the "Change" that Barack Obama promised us, tens of thousands of mortgaged home-owners in the United States are still losing their houses and lands to banks and holding companies every week, another trend, akin to the Assizes of the late Seventeenth century in England, seems to have begun in California. We wonder if there are incidents of this happening elsewhere around the Country...

    We, the citizens and earth-dwellers on a portion of Mother Terra that Luther Burbank likened to the Garden of Eden; known, Juristically, as Sonoma County, California, United States of America, are witnesses to it.

    A very ugly example of ruthless Elder Abuse followed by Arbicide, and what appears to many in this locality to be a politically-motivated, Court-sanctioned Land-grab, has occurred before our eyes, in a very in-your-face manner, on a California State highway designated as a “Scenic Corridor” – a section of State highway 116, just north of the town of Sebastopol, and adjacent to the hamlet of Graton, California. Here are a few Links:

    https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...kel-Property&p=

    https://www.pressdemocrat.com/articl...nion/110609844


    https://www.ksro.com/Programs/KSROAM...tryID=10243231

    Since this has been, for many of us, a very alarming, eye-opening, and disturbing incident, We, the citizens and earth-dwellers of this region think it is fitting that you, who dwell outside our little fish-bowl of Western Sonoma County be made aware of this incident, for it appears to be political in Nature, and an example of political persecution-by-proxy of an unorthodox maverick, a certain John Jenkel, citizen, self-proclaimed "coachman turned corruption-fighter," and “9-11 truth” dissident; a man who has made himself a thorn-in-the-side to City Hall, and the powers-that-be, by his relentless, eight+ year, one-man campaign for 9/11 accountability. Here is his contact information :

    John Jenkel
    P. O. Box 1822, Sebastopol, California 95473

    Phone #s : 1 -707 - 823-7083; 1-800-500-7083
    E-mail: [email protected]

    We think that it is fitting that Reporters and investigative Journalists from elsewhere on the planet contact Mr. Jenkel, and interview him; towards the ends that a more objective (and perhaps somewhat less biased) Account may emerge…


    Sign here


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    deconstructing dominus’s dominos

    Dear dominus, please don’t think it amiss if I attempt to indulge in a little linguistic de-con-struct-ion, and com-ment-ary on your fine, brief, and popular missive. Just remember that I voted for ya, man.

    “If Paul Hobbs thinks he is doing our community a real service by eliminating blight, let us remind him that our water, air and soil will be negatively impacted by his plans. “

    Which “blight” are we referring to, dominus – a few old cars with anti-War & anti-Winery signs on them that John Jenkel planted along the corridor of the right-of-way that he originally granted to Paul Hobbs, asking for no money in return; only asking that Mr. Hobbs preserve a grove of one hundred and twenty-year-old trees?

    Those cars and those signs were, no doubt a nuisance to Mr.. Hobbs, but were they actually “blight?”

    Was it the blight of an old farmhouse built in 1880, which Mr. Jenkel had preserved – reconstructing the perimeter foundation himself?

    Was it the blight of an old barn, and bunkhouse, also from the eighteen-eighties, which Mr. Jenkel had maintained and preserved for the forty-five years that the title to the farm had been in his name?

    Was it the “blight” of a whole host of beautiful old trees, that are now gone?

    It might be argued that the presence of druggies and an alleged meth lab on the property was “blight”- but I ask you – and everyone else - was it worth this?

    These things may have been a ”blight” to Mr. Paul Hobbs; but, as it was written of the Romans, who also Came, Saw, and Conquered: “They make a Desert, and they call it Peace.”

    Now there is a Moonscape, where once there were beautiful trees and authentic Scenery, and, instead of the “Wooden Mid-western style Barn,” that the Hobbs brothers promised John Jenkel they would build, in order to secure their free right-of-way, there is a four-building, ugly Metal-sided, Steel-beamed Wine-Factory complex that looks like Auschwitz. To me, that is real blight.

    And I think that everyone who looks objectively at these circumstances will agree, Mr. John Jenkel was certainly a better steward of the land, during the forty-five years that the “title” to those seven acres were vested in his name, than Paul Hobbs Winery LLP has shown itself to be in the short period that has elapsed since the title was “transferred” to them.

    “ …let us remind him that our water, air and soil will be negatively impacted by his plans.”

    Done deal, dominus. I mean terme, finito, kaput; No mas, no more… It has already happened; and we have all - even those of us who live outside the sand-box of the West County - been “impacted” by the rapacity of another greedy Corporation; by the egregious disregard for the Constitutional Rights of another Citizen, by the Court.

    “Given these circumstances, he could engage in some dialogue and enlist the support of an entire community…”

    Do you really expect this man Hobbs to enter into this forum, and engage in any kind of dialog with a bund of angry West-County tree-huggers and environmentalists? – Or somehow prove himself to be a “good steward” after this? Dream on.

    “…to practice the right kind of stewardship instead of just "taking and, then, taking some more."”

    What Hobbs, LLP fully intend to do, after this little storm in a teacup blows over, is to attach the rest of Mr. Jenkel’s Farm; clear-cut and level that also, and plant more grapes.

    And they {Hobbs, LLP} will also be able to do that eventually, if there is not, soon, a concerted, organized Resistance, by Citizens, to stop them. Remember, according to the “Judgment” of the Court, Mr. John Jenkel is still three hundred thousand dollars in “debt” to Paul Hobbs, LLP.

    “It is my humble opinion, that someone who is concerned about the spirit of trees and protecting them can be trusted a good deal more than someone who so insensitively destroys them.”

    Humble is good. Let’s all be humble in this dialog, please. Perhaps you refer to John Jenkel, who lived for forty-five years on the land in Question, and who never clear-cut or logged at all – and who, instead, planted scores of trees?

    “In truth, no one owns the land. Not me, not you, and certainly not Paul Hobbs.”

    Bingo! Absolutely no one owns the Land. Except, perhaps the Great Spirit, hey? - Whoever that Self-existent, Eternal One = I AM that I AM be. And we, poor mortals, are only passing through.

    Look, dominus: All we, who are old hippies, have this same ideology in common – a preference for the world as it was, and the Reality that was at the Time way back in antiquity when the Indians of the Great Plains had no concept at all of property, or “property-rights” when it came to dividing up the Earth, our Mother, into little bite-sized morsels, the better to devour her...

    I mean, who wouldn’t prefer to have at least seen the old Primeval Forest that once covered All of Kentucky, Tennessee, and West Virginia, the Blue Ridge mountains of North Carolina, and the northern Third of Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi?

    The Conifers in that forest were, on the average, three hundred feet high; the Oaks, Elms, Maples and Sycamores, and many of the other Hardwoods were often over two hundred and fifty feet high, and the Fruit and Nut trees were on the average, two hundred feet high, and growing. When Daniel Boone first peered into this seemingly limitless, and billowing green sea from the Cumberland Gap, he must have had a moment very much like the one Keats described upon a peak in Darien.

    Those trees had been growing for thousands of years, and they had never yet been touched by an axe of iron, or two-person saw-toothed hewing blade of iron, until 1774, the year that Harrod traipsed down the old Buffalo Trace from Maysville, to a meadow south of the meadow that later became Lexington…

    And what was most delightful to them damned Yankees that began pouring in after 1776, into that narra’ path that had been the Buffalo migration route for thousands of years, with their flintlock muskets – was that “them injuns ain’t got no notion of property, nohow.”

    Look, we all agree – or at least most of us who read this thread can concur on this - as the late Susan Sontag said, back in the 60’s: “The white man is the cancer of history.” Sad; but true. Can I get a show of hands?

    So for Now, Friend, let’s be Real: that was then; this is Now - not a time when we can afford to genuflect to the faded glory of Native American Antiquity, or dwell in sophomoric platitudes about what ought to be.

    Because, at this hour, when the Plutocrats, via their Money-market Banks on Wall Street and their attendant holding-companies, are gobbling up & confiscating what little is still left of the free-holdings of the former middle class in what used to be euphemistically known as “the land of the free,” there is no hiding place or refuge in that kind of Platitude.

    If you want to invoke Indian land-ethics now, you might wind up as the kind of Indian that General Phil Sheridan preferred.

    We live in a world - the damned white man’s world - of metes and bounds; of plot-lines, and grids, and taxes, exploitation, institutionalized corruption, and City Hall.

    It's a fallen world, in which even the much-beloved U.S. Constitution that elder Jenkel still prizes so much, is being violated every day – has been violated in the case of John Jenkel’s inherent protection to life and liberty and property according to the Fifth Amendment.

    And in this world, “Some property is more theft than other property - and some times = ironically = it is the same property that is more theft - in some circumstances... “ I said that.

    Quote Iolchan wrote:
    which phenomenon might signal to us, that if we own "property" in California, the title might not be all that secure these days, folks. Of course, if you happen to be an anarchist, and agree with Pierre-Joseph Proudhon that all "property is theft," you might not give a damn about what has happened to "poor Mr. Jenkel."

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    Mark,

    I would appreciate it if you would leave characterizations of my political views out of your perambulations here. I am not, nor have I ever been a "recovering Anarchist", nor am I a character in an Uncle Remus tale.

    I've worked with Anarchists. Some of them are among the finest people I know. But I've never called myself an Anarchist, because even if a society without formal authority based on cooperation and love were possible, I have not been able to commit to that goal, since I don't think it's likely anytime soon. And to label oneself as an Anarchist, in my definition of the term, that commitment needs to be there.

    I'm a Radical Democrat.

    Radical in the sense of going to the roots of a problem, not radical in the newly tainted use of the word on MSM Cable News shows for extremist Republicans.

    Democrat in the sense of committed to governance of all aspects of our collective lives, via the most effective but egalitarian and democratic means, not democrat in the sense of being a member of the sellout mainstream party that is in the pay of corporate interests but gives lip service to the constituencies that it abandoned long ago, working people, the poor, those outside of the comfortable mainstream of our society.

    Thank you for your attention in this matter. If I wish to weigh in on this discussion, I will. As I did a few weeks ago. Otherwise leave me out of it.

    By the way, I'm not "recovering" from shit. And I resent being put in any box by someone else, whether it applies or not. And in this case it doesn't.

    Finally, do not speak for me. My participation in this discussion has been all that I wish to contribute. If I thought I had something more, hopefully useful or interesting to say, I would contribute it. I don't need, nor do I welcome, others speaking for me.

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    Iolchan
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    Re: Some Pictures of Hobbs's Takeover of the Jenkel Property

    In Response to Brother Miles Mendenhall

    Miles, old Chap

    = Bro not Brer =

    Hey Bro, Lighten up and chill out. Can't we all just get along?! No harm done; just a little jibe; as they say... and done with the best of intentions. We're All recovering from something:
    a hangover, a heartbreak, anarchism, catholicism, fundamentalism, family, school, ma, pa, our ex, the kids, parenthood, etc., etc., so chill...

    For the Record, I had written:

    Quote Of course, if you happen to be a recovering anarchist, like Brer "Mad" Miles, and agree with Pierre-Joseph Proudhon that all "property is theft," you might not give a damn about what has happened to "poor Mr. Jenkel."
    I have since deleted the words recovering, Brer, and "Mad" Miles from the text on the thread.
    That was hardly an ad hominem attack on you or your character, Miles, just a gentle poke atcha, in the hope that you mighty respond and weigh in on the points that have been raised. Instead , you have answered with an ad hominem defense yourself. Too bad.

    Indeed, Miles, ‘If you thought you had something more, hopefully useful or interesting to say, you would contribute it.’

    I, for one, however, find it rather sad that a man of your intellect and aptitude should find it more important at this hour to write reviews of local
    Restaurants, and find the issue of a Hooters for Rohnert Park more worthy of your time than the issue of Justice for John Jenkel.

    =Bread & Circuses=

    … I consider that very akin to “fiddling while Rome burns,” Bro. This thread is the most significant thread that this one has ever seen on WaccoBB, Miles. Correction: It is the most important thread that has ever been here. It woke me out of my own “Sonoma Coma;” it has caused me to come down from the mountain and into the Agora.

    Didn’t mean to bait you, or step on your corns, Old Chap. And thanks for defining your political tendency for us :
    “Radical Democrat.”

    But, Miles, in all good humor, really, just how “Radical” are you; in Reality? John Jenkel, I submit, is,
    Objectively, more Radical than you, even though he bristles at the very mention of the word.

    He’s a
    Jacobin. An old-right, Age of Reason, Voltaire-ian, Rights of Man, Constitutionalist, mid-nineteenth century, American Republican sort of Jacobin, like Thaddeus Stevens. He's quite adamant about Retribution having to be administered strictly: Lethal injections for the Perpetraitors of 9-11. That’s Jacobinism. Bring back the Guillotine. - Ironically that was "left" way back when - but now the Jenkel variety of Jacobinism has morphed into an “old-right” phenomenon. With Time, that always happens...

    That’s not my position Miles; I take a non-violent approach to the whole issue of War – hoping to see the Day when the Swords will be all beaten into Plowshares…

    But John Jenkel’s position is objectively both
    Radical and Revolutionary, Miles – and the establishment know it. That’s why they’ve stoned him, publicly, right up on the highway, for all to see. This "situation" as the dialecticians of the '30's used to say, has wonderful revolutionary potential

    Because this is not about John Jenkel : this is about the Fifth Amendment; that reads :

    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

    The Above has been violated, with respect to your neighbor; the old man down the road, Miles. Do you care? Because, truly, "an injury to one is an injury to all." I'm just enough of an Old-Left fool to still believe that mantra. God knows I've paid my dues chanting it enough...

    Hope to see your Comments back on this Thread, and weigh in on the subject of
    The Fifth Amendment - as it pertains to Property – and the appropriateness or inappropriateness of it all. I mean; we all know it's a bother - but is the bother worth it?

    Meanwhile, Open Forum / Discussion Period, Class:

    Q. Should we throw in the towel Now; throw up our hands, and
    just let the Plutes and their minions, Seize & Possess All of the lands & property & movables of the entire Continent?

    Q
    . Do you care about this Issue at all, or would you rather just read Restaurant reviews, since you don’t own any so- called “real estate” yourself?

    =OR= Perhaps you do own property but would still rather read about food than think about unpleasant things like how & why the Court looted the old man down the road?

    Q. Should we Organize, now, and attempt to do the necessary hard work that it takes to make "Democracy come to the U.S.A.?" -
    as in that wonderful song we all love by Leonard Cohen?

    -Q. Is that even
    Possible? =OR= Because Apathy is just so general, does even posing the Question betray an incredible, thick, lack of Realism?

    Q.
    Is the Process of "Democracy Coming to the U.S.A." inevitable, as old school Second Internationalists used to believe that Socialism was inevitable?

    =OR=
    Do we have to actually do something to make it come, perhaps, like organize Town Hall Meetings, for instance?

    =OR=
    Should we just pack it in & let the Fascists have all of North America, Now, and just find some nice safe place like the high Andes to ride out the Apocalypse with our honey?

    = Just thought I’d ask. =

    By the way, this is not “perambulation” Miles – whatever that means,
    Bro. I simply answer
    all Questions that are posed, as the issues come up. Sometimes the Questions are important ones, and actually deserve long answers. And sometimes New Questions, also, need to be Asked... but maybe you would rather deal with gastro-intestinal issues?

    By the way, I dig "Uncle Remus" - and all the neat lessons: briar patches, tar-babies, et al, the book has to offer us.

    Yours, Truly,

    - Mark


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    Re: Some Pictures of Hobbs's Takeover of the Jenkel Property

    I can't read all this now. A good friend and a pillar of the original Wacco community is getting married tomorrow. I'll check back in Monday eve.

    Be cool folks. Be nice to each other. Go outside and play
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    Re: Some Pictures of Hobbs's Takeover of the Jenkel Property

    [QUOTE=Iolchan;We wonder if there are incidents of this happening elsewhere around the Country...

    [url]https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/06/sunny-sheu-murdered-for-investigating-ny-foreclosure-judge-joseph-golia.html[/url]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tr3...layer_embedded
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    Re: Some Pictures of Hobbs's Takeover of the Jenkel Property

    Since John Jenkel forwarded this to me several days ago, and since it is still timely, I am posting it here:


    John Jenkel - Commentary on President Barack Obama's Speech,
    June 22, 2011


    “Good evening. Nearly 10 years ago, America suffered the worst attack on our shores since Pearl Harbor. This mass murder was planned by Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida network in Afghanistan, and signaled a new threat to our security - one in which the targets were no longer soldiers on a battlefield, but innocent men, women and children going about their daily lives.”



    Correction, Mr President: On September 11, 2001, America suffered an Enron-sponsored organized crime. It was not an attack against America, and certainly was not an act of war against the now $14.3 trillion dysfunctional United States by a foreign country, like Pearl Harbor was, as you well know. Why do you try to fool we the people? The "mass murder" on 9-11 was not as desperate Enron builder Ken Lay apparently "planned."

    The well organized crimes were delayed 41 minutes which allowed office workers to enter office buildings that would have been closed after the planned attacks. Enron puppet President George w. Bush caused 2,798 unplanned murders because he left his wife to be a sitting duck in the White House with the planned targets, who were United States Energy Czar Dick Cheney and his anti-Enron VP staff from pipeline builder Halliburton.

    The process of saving our first lady, who was supposed to be in Florida to launch her "Read don't watch" campaign, caused the 41 minute delay. Bad Boy Born-again Bush's testosterone caused 2,798 "innocent men, women, and children (?)" to be unplanned targets. They were victims of 2,798 deliberately unsolved murders on 9-11. What are you going to do about it?



    “In the days that followed, our nation was united as we struck at al-Qaida and routed the Taliban in Afghanistan. Then, our focus shifted. A second war was launched in Iraq, and we spent enormous blood and treasure to support a new government there. By the time I took office, the war in Afghanistan had entered its seventh year. But al-Qaida's leaders had escaped into Pakistan and were plotting new attacks, while the Taliban had regrouped and gone on the offensive. Without a new strategy and decisive action, our military commanders warned that we could face a resurgent al-Qaida, and a Taliban taking over large parts of Afghanistan.”



    Correction, Mr. President: In the days that followed the apparent Ken Lay-planned and clearly Bush-botched attempted assassinations, insurance scams, and USAF attacks on 9-11, our treasonously deceived nation foolishly invaded a well armed nation of atheists, allegedly looking for the planner of 9-11, Enron/CIA-operative and Saudi/muslim misfit, Osama bin Laden. This bandit:

    a) certainly did not call phantom California governor Willie Brown
    a "full eight hour before 9-11" and tell him and other CalPERS Directors not to fly to New York on 9-11 to meet Energy Czar Dick Cheney and his secret energy task force on September 12, 2001. Wizard of Deception Willie's California energy bandit pal, and the apparent 9-11 planner, desperate Enron builder Ken Lay, probably did;



    b) certainly did not arrange for NORAD to intercept only two of six Enron-sponsored al Qaeda Martyrdom Battalion hijacked airliners. Enron investor and Secretary of Offense Donald Rumsfeld did;


    c) certainly did not delay the take-off of star act United Airlines Fight 93 from Newark for 41 minutes until top Enron speculator Warren Buffett could provide a white NetJets jet to trail it, so it could be located and shot down;


    d) certainly did not demolish the Twin Towers and Building 7 by controlled demolitions, and then collect $4.6 billion in a terrorist act insurance scam. World Trade Center principal Larry Silverstein and financier Lloyd Goldman did;


    e) certainly did not shoot down recovered United Airlines Flight 93 on Bush's order to destroy evidence, after its flight crew filed a flight plan to land safely at Reagan International Airport. USAF Major Rick Gibney did;


    f) certainly did not destroy bags full of human remains scattered for eight miles in Somerset County, Pennsylvania. Shadow president Willie Brown-appointed new FBI director Robert S. Mueller, III, did;


    g)certainly did not attack the Pentagon Office of Naval Intelligence with a remote controlled USAF F-16 and its missile. The United States Air Force did;


    h) certainly did not bring in a wrecking ball to destroy evidence of an attack by an F-16 and its missile while Office of Naval Intelligence workers were still alive in the Pentagon rubble. Secretary of Offense Donald Rumsfeld did. Rumble-dumb was rewarded with a Hoover Fellowship until the faculty of Stanford University threatened to go on strike.

    Attractive Stanford grad student Mengyao "May" Zhou, who apparently was going to expose this, got snuffed. Her hacked remains were found in the locked trunk of her locked car in a Santa Rosa Junior College parking lot on January 25, 2007. It had been there for five days. The stench alerted security. Sonoma County Sheriff-Coroner Bill Cogbill dismissed May's murder as "a suicide."

    This nonsense gave aid and comfort to enemies of my state who maintain United States mass murder in undeclared wars of congressional choice for profit. He is ripe for a death sentence under California Penal Code Section 37. ANY Californian who conceals this mass murder and treason is ripe for state prison under Penal Code Sections 32 and 38. There is no statute of limitation for capital crimes in the United States.



    i) certainly did not take all of the steel from two massive 115 story steel buildings that collapsed in 10 seconds. Communist China did; and


    j) certainly did not make so much money selling insurance against terrorist acts that he had to give the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation $31 billion to stay out of jail. See's Candyman Warren Buffett did.
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    Iolchan
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    Re: Some Pictures of Hobbs's Takeover of the Jenkel Property

    Runningbare wrote:
    Quote Iolchan wrote: We wonder if there are incidents of this happening elsewhere around the Country...

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011...eph-golia.html


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tr3Q...layer_embedded
    .

    Thanks, Runingbare, for these two links, showing similar, simultaneous manifestations of Malfeasance as we have seen up on highway one sixteen... being done by a judge in Queens just a few days ago. Surely a very relevant link. - This is what we need: facts.

    There is some indication in this information, that the Foreclosure Racket is - at least in the Big Apple, now a matter of State - or perhaps, as some of us still
    may hope, { being authentic couch potato type conies ourselves,} is merely a matter of "Rotten Burough" Policy; at least let us Realize { yes, kids, as Jimi said, "There are things to Realize" } that there does seem to be more than one rotten burough in which land-Seizures are happening, these days. {as in NOW, kids. So wake up.}

    You must concede the synchronicity of these two events, i.e. the burning of Jenkel's houses in Graton - and the murder of Sunny Sheu, in Queens, both took place within the same month - Both of these Links are worth reading / studying:

    First - a mafia hanging judge who prevents the accursed a reasonable means of recovering stolen house, Then the cops kidnap and beat this Sunny Sheu and warn him that if continues to probe into the judge's dealings with organized Foreclosure Racket, he'll "get it" - and then he does "get it." Typical. And current with today's wave of Foreclosures.


    Thank you, Runningbare, for being the sort of Geek who at least does come, bearing gifts... Anyone else? Got any other evidence gathered from the worldwideweb
    o' mair Clearances a' happenin' right about Now, in Amerigusville, Ye old primary Plantation of ye old Global Village? folks? Please, go out searchin' - perhaps you'll turn up a fact or twa. Facts is what we want: Just the Facts, Ma'am.

    Geek hi'sel,
    - Mark
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    Re: Some Pictures of Hobbs's Takeover of the Jenkel Property

    The Banality of evil & the fires of Bosnia, Kosovo, & Graton


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    As a Not-so-innocent by-stander to Life, and as an Outsider to the West-County Community, who dwells on, and still "possesses"
    a clear title to fifteen acres of land facing the ridge which is the eastern perimeter and rim of the bowl of Sonoma County, I find the portent of this fire down in the valley, in Graton, to be very ominous - and the account that was rendered in the Press Democrat, to be really very appalling: The article, which accompanied the photograph above, was entitled:

    “Two houses burned in Graton fire exercise”


    Reading the article in the Link above, I was reminded of Hannah Arendt's observations about the "banality of evil," in her book, "Eichmann in Jerusalem." Neither the author of the article in the Press Democrat, nor the fire chief and captain quoted in the article, question what they are doing - either the legality of the seizure of the lands of this heretic - nor the injustice inherent in the act of burning down the houses on it - houses that rightfully should still belong to a seventy-two year old senior citizen; who was once a respected and honored Country Squire, in the days when Graton and Sebastopol were still the apples towns of my lang memory; and in the days before September 11, 2001...

    Here is the complete article:

    Published: Saturday, May 21, 2011 at 6:57 p.m.

    Quote "Two houses on property that Graton activist John Jenkel has lost to winemaker Paul Hobbs in a civil dispute were burned by firefighters Saturday during a training exercise.

    “We don't get to train on that many structure fires, it is a good opportunity for training,” said Occidental fire Capt. Dennis Sandberg. “The available houses are few and far between, on average once every year or year and a half.”

    The homes were burned between 7 a.m. and 2 p.m. by firefighters from Occidental, Forestville, Gold Ridge and Graton. The property is located in the Graton district.

    Hobbs acquired the property, which borders Highway 116, as part of a Sonoma County civil judgment of $350,000 against Jenkel that stems from a 2006 dispute between Hobbs and Jenkel.

    Fire officials said that Hobbs gave them permission to use the structures in a training drill.

    “We try and get the word out to the community as much as possible that if there is a home to demolish, we would love to use it for training,” Graton fire Deputy Chief Bill Bullard said. “It is an opportunity you can't duplicate in any type of training.”

    -- Bob Norberg
    Like the Germans who participated in the holocaust, these firemen are only doing their job - as is the journalist who gets paid to produce such banal, vapid copy. He too, is "only following orders," to write such drivel, in which, an event which resembles something from a chapter in "The Highland Clearances," - {a must read, by John Prebble} - is presented as a good thing, almost a picnic : "It is an opportunity you can't duplicate in any type of training." These firemen are not goose-stepping "fanatics or sociopaths," paraphrasing the the wikipedia, " but rather ...ordinary people who accept the premises of their state and therefore participate with the view that their actions are normal.""

    Again, from the wikipedia:

    "Explaining this phenomenon, Edward S. Herman has emphasized the importance of "normalizing the unthinkable." According to him, "doing terrible things in an organized and systematic way rests on 'normalization.' This is the process whereby ugly, degrading, murderous, and unspeakable acts become routine and are accepted as 'the way things are done.'"

    The fire itself reminds me of the fires that burned in Kosovo, in Bosnia, in Serbia, and of the ethnic cleansing that went on there in the 1990's.
    The difference is: this is not "ethnic cleansing" - it is "dissident cleansing." = It is the Inquisition = It is the Bloody Assizes = it is the Burning Times = it is the Highland Clearances. A telling photograph; that speaks to those with eyes to see, a different story than the cover story that is presented to us in the newspaper. Here is a short video of the same scene:



    - If you will note, there is a sequence of John Jenkel, himself towards the end, in the moment of his anguish and loss. sadly, there is no footage extant from any cameraman present that day who had the time to ask him any questions - or let him speak for himself.

    But let us be thankful for small things : here is an image
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Size:  1.9 KB {image} of the man himself; who was for many years the Coachman for the Bohemian Grove , who pulled the Casket, with his team of horses and wagon, in the Cremation of Care Ceremony = and this is the indignity he has merited from his former Masters, who are, verily, Drunk, on the Wine of Babylon, a' because he turned away from a life of Comfort and Ease... & Prosperity & becam' instead, a Turncoat to THEM, Inc., after he saw through the charade of the media coverage & send-up of September 11, 2001, and cam' to realize that 9-11 was an Inside Job.

    John Jenkel, I would argue, took the moral highroad, & embarked on a higher path - and a much more difficult one I may add, Chilluns & full of rigor and Resistance from the powers-that-be = And also, shame & spitting from those wha' should hae both listened to, and heard his message.

    And so has he lived, awkwardly - chaffingly, and vexingly, too - for the past eight and a half years, ever since he "came out," as an anti-War, & anti-Imperialist, old-school nineteenth-century style "left" republican & is now cam to this.... Because, by his own Voltaire -ian Light, & in his own eighteenth century, Rationalist Mind, he had to become a strident warner of the citizenry; a canary in the coalmine; a
    blunt & brusque Cassandra, telling All, high and low, that we have been under Martial Law = that we are still under Martial Law = ever since Public Law 107-243 cam' into effect.

    And he had to follow this Course, because he is a Man, and Constitutionally, very much the opposite of a Wuss. And he is even a Constitutionalist. And also, because he loved humanity, and he loved & remembered the gone days in America whan there was mair Freedom - and out of Love for his own Children, and his Grandchildren he did not want to see them living in the Future World of Fascism.

    =John Jenkel Remains on the margins of our Consciousness, as a Symbol - but of what?=

    Are we simply to leave him there, as a faceless, and voiceless object, at the edge of the final frames on this film strip
    ? =or= will we come to the Realization=Voila ! that John Jenkel is We-uns Chilluns = He is the Old Man Down the Road = … And, as Dylan told the Judge, in “Percy’s Song” : “What happened to him, it could happen to Anyone… =and= as Phil Ochs sang,There But For Fortune, Go You, or I...”

    Indeed, what they have done to John Jenkel is a foretaste of what is to come. If we -
    if you - who dwell in the West County, do not do anything more to Resist this evil than just "boycott Paul Hobbs wines" there will be more of it.
    Mark my words: If you will not learn, Soon, to practice Town Hall meetings, you will soon find that you have no Freedoms left at all - except for plenty of sexual freedom, of course, and consumer freedoms, and yummy culinary freedoms, too. Yes, and the freedom to drink plenty of wine. The oligarchy doesn't mind bestowing favors like that. They are beneficent.

    Here is another Image, from April, of this year; just one month before the fires that burned down a house, bunkhouse & barn of One of the last, strident, practitioners of Free Speech in America were lit, just down the Road, in Graton. O = and before the land was utterly altered and turned into a Moonscape. It was taken by a photographer from the
    Times Light:

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    Its Just a Photograph; the Remembrance of Things Past…
    -=La Recherche du Temps Perdu=-


    He’s a Jacobin, John Jenkel;
    he is a Heretic, too.
    They’ve bound him to the Stake,
    & They’ll do the Same to you
    -=-
    If you Speak out, like Jenkel,
    and Dare to speak your Mind
    They’ll Rope you, Brand you,
    Rack &, Stretch you,
    & Drive you
    Out O’ your Mind.


    Also, there's a Quotation,
    sometimes attributed
    -to- =Voltaire=
    – but which I learned,-
    +for sure, from my dear,+
    Socialist,
    =Jewish grandmother,=
    at the age of four :


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    “I may not agree
    with what you say,
    but I will defend to death
    your right to say it.”

    =
    =Voltaire=
    - as simplified by -
    +Ewelyn Beatrice Hall +
    & and &
    as recited by
    =Edith Fleischer Liggett=
    to her little
    -mischelling-
    grandson,

    + % +
    =Mark Walter Evans=
    +as a small+
    - tidbit, of -
    +her gift +
    @ of Ethical @
    -=Cultcha=-
    =to this one=
    -in or around-
    1954
    """"
    """"
    And so,
    Dear Readers,
    I leave it
    to Y-All
    as my Own
    Gift
    to
    the
    Stream
    O'
    Conscious-
    ness.
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    Here's the message I received from YELP this week, letting me know they've decided

    to remove my review.


    JUL 05, 2011 *|* 12:38PM PDT

    Hi inezelia,

    We're writing to inform you that we've decided to remove your review of Paul Hobbs Winery. We don't take this decision lightly, and appreciate the seriousness of the allegations in your review. Nevertheless our Content Guidelines (https://www.yelp.com/guidelines) are very clear in outlining the need for a first-hand experience, and we think this an important requirement for maintaining Yelp as a useful site for consumer reviews. Responding to a news story or other users' reviews falls outside of a core first-hand experience of the business.

    That being said, we would never wish to stifle discussion on any of the issues you've raised, and our Talk section (https://www.yelp.com/talk) may be a great forum for your opinions regarding this incident.

    Please know that we review every situation with great attention and take this matter very seriously.

    Removed Content:

    Anyone who thinks Paul Hobbs Winery constitutes an "oasis" really must look further .

    A true oasis is the breathtaking and beloved historic piece of West Sonoma County's wooded scape that Paul Hobbs acquired in a quiet and eyebrow-raising quick transaction with the County-- natural beauty that now visitors can only imagine, because as soon as his signature on the deed was dry -- without an ounce of shame and or acknowledgement of the horrified residents who pass by everyday-- Paul Hobbs brought in heavy equipment and hideously razed and destroyed everything, even date palms which could have been moved elsewhere, to make a profit charming and selling wine to tourists who have no idea of the winery's unfortunate history..
    >
    A nature-destroying cookie-cutter winery like the one Paul Hobbs built belongs in Disney World. How many more pop-up wineries before before californians are forced to go to Disney World to look at nature?

    Please boycott Paul Hobbs Winery.

    Regards,
    Zvone
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    San Francisco, California

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    They Make a Desert, & They Call it "Peace"



    Quote inezalea wrote:
    Removed Content:

    Anyone who thinks Paul Hobbs Winery constitutes an "oasis" really must look further .

    A true oasis is the breathtaking and beloved historic piece of West Sonoma County's wooded scape that Paul Hobbs acquired in a quiet and eyebrow-raising quick transaction with the County-- natural beauty that now visitors can only imagine, because as soon as his signature on the deed was dry -- without an ounce of shame and or acknowledgment of the horrified residents who pass by everyday-- Paul Hobbs brought in heavy equipment and hideously razed and destroyed everything, even date palms which could have been moved elsewhere, to make a profit charming and selling wine to tourists who have no idea of the winery's unfortunate history..
    >
    A nature-destroying cookie-cutter winery like the one Paul Hobbs built belongs in Disney World. How many more pop-up wineries before before californians are forced to go to Disney World to look at nature?

    Please boycott Paul Hobbs Winery.

    Regards,
    Zvone


    Yelp User Support
    San Francisco, California

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    Quote That being said, we would never wish to stifle discussion on any of the issues you've raised, and our Talk section (https://www.yelp.com/talk) may be a great forum for your opinions regarding this incident.

    Amen to That, Citizen
    Zvone !

    Kudos to you Zvone, for your contribution and the labor you have already dedicated in the good fight to help right -{ or at least expose }- this vast wrong that has been done : to the Earth, to the Ecology, to the local Environment, to the local Community, to the Public, to the very Concept & Practice of Equity and Justice in the Courts of Law, - and last, but not least, to John Jenkel, himself, self described "coachman-turned-corruption fighter."

    All of the above have been wronged by the above, and wounded, too, by the actions of Paul Hobbs Winery, LLP - and whoever their silent Partners may be - and by the egregious disregard for Justice that has been displayed by Members of the Bench of the Superior Court of Sonoma County, State of California, in the conduct of how the Court dealt with the series of Mandmuses and Torts, that were served
    in the Court, since 2006, by the Paul Hobbs Winery, LLP, against their neighbor, John Jenkel.

    I would encourage everyone who cares about any or all of the points
    enumerated in the litany in the first paragraph, to visit the wild old codger, himself. Bring a Notepad, or a Tape Recorder and ask him a few Questions. And while you're at it, assemble a few Facts, will ya? That way you can acquit yourselves as having the "first-hand experience" that the Yelp Guidelines call for...

    Quote Hi inezelia,

    We're writing to inform you that we've decided to remove your review of Paul Hobbs Winery. We don't take this decision lightly, and appreciate the seriousness of the allegations in your review. Nevertheless our Content Guidelines (
    https://www.yelp.com/guidelines) are very clear in outlining the need for a first-hand experience, and we think this an important requirement for maintaining Yelp as a useful site for consumer reviews. Responding to a news story or other users' reviews falls outside of a core first-hand experience of the business.

    That being said, we would never wish to stifle discussion on any of the issues you've raised, and our Talk section (
    https://www.yelp.com/talk) may be a great forum for your opinions regarding this incident.

    Please know that we review every situation with great attention and take this matter very seriously.

    We need Facts, to understand this thing = and the Nature, as they say, of the Beast. We also need first-hand scoping-out of the Scene, as they call it. No mayhem, please.

    Let John Jenkel take you up on the roof of his study, where you can see the Paul Hobbs Winery LLP operation in all its Auschwitzian banality. Indeed, the whole operation should be called "Stalag 116" as John Jenkel has termed it.
    The Paul Hobbs Winery, LLP is a blight on the landscape. Architecturally, die Fabrik is a dead-ringer for Auschwitz.

    It only lacks gas chambers, crematoria, smoke-stacks, and the unpleasant odor of smoke.

    = Mark Walter Evans =
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    Iolchan
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    Censorship @ The Press Democrat...


    Womens & Mens: May I get your attention? The following missive, which I wrote, in early June, and posted almost simultaneously on both WaccoBB and the forum section of the Press Democrat, has been pulled from the on-line edition of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat. The thread, Re: letters about John Jenkel, sent to the PD, is here:


    MY statement, which came from my gut - as well as my heart and mind, and which has been - Surprise ! - pulled; read as follows :



    Quote
    J'Accuse !

    The Judgment In John Jenkel's Case is not "Justice."


    The Judgment in John Jenkel's Case Is not Justice. It is wrong, very wrong, that this should be the outcome of Mr. Jenkel’s trial. I am in shock that such an egregious miscarriage of Justice could have happened in the Courts of Sonoma County.

    I reflect on the last several times I passed Harmony Farms and Mr. Jenkel's farm was still intact, where those bold Anti-War banners of his used to flap in the wind on the opposite hedgerow just across highway 116, all during the last decade... And now, I shudder to think what I shall feel when once again I shall pass by, or visit Harmony Farms, and see a clear-cut across the road. What a travesty.

    Yes, John Jenkel is a difficult man; a cantankerous old-right maverick, and an “unhappy camper” to boot. Everyone says so - it seems to be the consensus that fits everyone's comfort quotient. The details of his anti-Afghanistan War position - that Willie Brown was a player behind the scenes in the whole 9/11 fandango, did not resonate with the various shades of left analysis. His assertion that Willie Brown is “the most powerful political broker in California,” is at least debatable.

    He does understand - articulately - that the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan had nothing to do with the cover story of going after Osama bin Laden, and everything to do with where the oil pipeline from Kazakhstan would go.

    John Jenkel has never been popular. He does not know how to be. But John Jenkel has shown himself to be a brave and an outspoken Soul; a civil-libertarian who has the courage to express his own convictions; an unrelenting political human being, who has stuck his neck out as a Citizen – which is more than most of us do. He has shown himself to be a passionate opponent of two illegal Wars of occupation, who carries in his heart, as the ashes of Klaes, the suffering these Wars have engendered.

    This so-called “Judgment” in the Court that awarded the $350,000 settlement to Paul Hobbs is not “Justice” at all ! It is full of malice and malfeasance. It is a transparent political misuse of the Court, using Mr. Hobbs as a convenient proxy, to persecute and silence one of the last voices among us of the species of Anthropos Politicanus. A subliminal message may be read in this: "This is what happens when you step out of line and become too political."

    Yes, we all are vulnerable Now, and we are all also somewhere among the next in Line. What was it that pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer said? O yes: “First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.”

    You can paraphrase Bonhoeffer, in this case: "First they came for the eccentric Conservative Constitutionalists..." We have all let John Jenkel down. We did not support him in his lonely ordeal, nor show up at his Court hearings, though we were vaguely aware that all this was going on, and that his property was hanging in the balance. Let the clear-cutting of the redwoods on the lot opposite Harmony Farms become a rallying point. “We must all hang together or assuredly we will all hang separately.” Benjamin Franklin said that.

    - Mark Walter Evans

    That op-Ed of mine, all too true, which was Up on the Press Democrat website, is now gone. Now the editorial department down town at the Press Democrat might have done this for a number of reasons: Perhaps they took offense at this:

    Quote
    Iolchan wrote:

    Dateline, June 14, 2011, WASHINGTON'S BLOG:

    "Pentagon Papers Whistle-blower Daniel Ellsberg Says
    That
    the Government Has ORDERED the Media Not to Cover 9/11"


    https://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/...er-daniel.html

    To quote from WASHINGTON'S BLOG:


    "What Does Ellsberg Say? "

    "Ellsberg says that the government has ordered the media not to cover 9/11:
    Ellsberg seemed hardly surprised that today's American mainstream broadcast media has so far failed to take [former FBI translator and 9/11 whistleblower Sibel] Edmonds up on her offer, despite the blockbuster nature of her allegations [which Ellsberg calls "far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers"].

    As Edmonds has also alluded, Ellsberg pointed to the New York Times, who "sat on the NSA spying story for over a year" when they "could have put it out before the 2004 election, which might have changed the outcome."

    "There will be phone calls going out to the media saying 'don't even think of touching it, you will be prosecuted for violating national security,'" he told us.

    "I am confident that there is conversation inside the Government as to 'How do we deal with Sibel?'" contends Ellsberg. "The first line of defense is to ensure that she doesn't get into the media. I think any outlet that thought of using her materials would go to to the government and they would be told 'don't touch this . . . .'" He [Ellsberg] supports a new 9/11 investigation.

    He says that the case of a certain 9/11 whistleblower is "far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers". (Here's some of what that whistleblower says.) He also said that the government is ordering the media to cover up her allegations about 9/11.

    And he says that some of the claims concerning government involvement in 9/11 are credible, that "very serious questions have been raised about what they [U.S. government officials] knew beforehand and how much involvement there might have been", that engineering 9/11 would not be humanly or psychologically beyond the scope of those in office, and that there's enough evidence to justify a new, "hard-hitting" investigation into 9/11 with subpoenas and testimony taken under oath (see this and this)."

    [end quote
    ]
    -------------------------------------------------------

    We all know that our local daily, the Santa Rosa Press Democrat
    , known as the Times Light (as in Bud Light) by the smart alecs among us, and which has given local 9/11 dissident John Jenkel such “wonderful press,” is an affiliate of the New York Times.

    Consider, also, this missive from
    WASHINGTON'S BLOG,
    May 25, 2011:

    https://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/...n-be-kept.html

    One begins to wonder just how far-fetched the so-called “conspiracy theories” of Citizen John Jenkel really are…

    - Mark Walter Evans
    = Or Maybe = just Maybe it was this:

    Quote

    Iolchan wrote:
    The Banality of evil & the fires of Bosnia, Kosovo, & Graton


    As a Not-so-innocent by-stander to Life, and as an Outsider to the West-County Community, who dwells on, and still "possesses" a clear title to fifteen acres of land facing the ridge which is the eastern perimeter and rim of the bowl of Sonoma County, I find the portent of this fire down in the valley, in Graton, to be very ominous - and the account that was rendered in the Press Democrat, to be really very appalling: The article, which accompanied the photograph above, was entitled:

    “Two houses burned in Graton fire exercise”

    https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article...-fire-exercise

    Reading the article in the Link above, I was reminded of Hannah Arendt's observations about the "banality of evil," in her book, "Eichmann in Jerusalem." Neither the author of the article in the Press Democrat, nor the fire chief and captain quoted in the article, question what they are doing - either the legality of the seizure of the lands of this heretic - nor the injustice inherent in the act of burning down the houses on it - houses that rightfully should still belong to a seventy-two year old senior citizen; who was once a respected and honored Country Squire, in the days when Graton and Sebastopol were still the apples towns of my lang memory; and in the days before September 11, 2001...


    I do not know.


    Anyway, like the lonesome hobo in Dylan's song, I'd like to tell you all - before I do pass on, that i bear no ill will to the Santa Rosa Press Democrat. Like Adolf Eichmann, they, too, are only following orders. Orders which come, according to Daniel Ellsberg, from the current Administration of our dearly beloved high brown pres, who himself, is only following orders -{ Orders which come from David Rockefeller, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and the Presidium of the Trilateral Commission} - but whom one may not criticize in some circles without running the risk of being thought a racist.

    Also,
    I have nothing personal against the Press Democrat, and must state - for the Record - that it has only been since I read that missive on Washington's BLOG, that came from the desk of Daniel Ellsberg, that I started to use the common street lingo expression, "Times Light " when referring to our local Daily Newspaper.

    Members of my own family - I would add, have worked for the New York Times. My mother's maiden uncle, Walter Fletcher {nee Fleischer} was the Picture Editor of the New York Times for many years - & throughout World War II.
    My mother's father, Walter W. Liggett also worked for the Times, in the Nineteen-twenties. It was on his Resume as it appeared in Who's Who.

    So I have nothing Personal against your paper, dear editors. I just think that it is time that we learn the truth about 9-11; and that the "professional journalists" of the mainstream media should stop strait-jacketing themselves on this score...

    Also, I will add, I do not like Censorship myself. I protest ! And I also Stand by my Words, which have been deleted from your forum, and which I do reprint here, above, since they are still timely ...

    Sincerely,

    Mark Walter Evans

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    My entry on Yelp regarding Paul Hobbs was also rescinded with the same provisos you quoted here. I'm dismayed at the apparent collusion of government and press to censor concerned citizens regarding issues of great import. And I appreciate the opportunity to "speak out" here on Wacco. Thanks so much, Barry, for this forum. Perhaps prayers and meditations are our best tools for shifts and changes in the status quo.

    Regards, Nikki

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    Censorship @ The Press Democrat...


    Womens & Mens: May I get your attention? The following missive, which I wrote, in early June, and posted almost simultaneously on both WaccoBB and the forum section of the Press Democrat, has been pulled from the on-line edition of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat. ...
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    Open Letter to the International Action Center, Re: John Jenkel
    Attn: Ramsey Clark, Attorney General, retired.

    Thank you, Jim, for your concern.

    John Jenkel is a very unique, and - in some ways - a very difficult Individual. He just turned seventy-three, last Friday. He was born into a wealthy family of the the lower upper-class - but of the sort who like to work hard, and do not mind getting callouses on their hands, and dirt under their fingernails. John Jenkel has worked hard all his life. He is still very vigorous, and vital for someone his age.

    John had the advantage of having a father who put him through Stanford, where he graduated at the age of twenty-one. Although he is not a lawyer, he knows a great deal about law, and has always been aware of developments in Civic Law as they relate to Freedom in the Polis. That is one of the positive points of the ideology of the old-right libertarians, aka Paleo-Conservatives - which is the tendency that John Jenkel comes from. Thus, quite soon after 9-11, John Jenkel read,
    and was able to understand, comprehend, dissect, measure, and take stock of the significance of the fascist legislation known as Public Law 107-243.

    Until September 11, 2001, John was a well-respected Country Squire of the apple country of western Sonoma County - and had been so for many years. Politically, he was a sort of Whig, and a registered Republican. John was a building contractor, who built many houses in the neighborhood of Graton, and Sebastopol. He also was a serious horseman, and a collector of antique horse-drawn
    buggies, carriages & wagons. Significantly, he worked for years, as a high-level employee for the Bohemian Grove, pulling the Casket with his team & wagon, in the "Cremation of Care Ceremony."

    Thus, when John Jenkel "came out" as an anti-War activist, & an anti- Imperialist, after 9-11, he had a lot to lose. He is very brave, and very principled. But, I warn you: he is also quite irascible, and in some ways, [almost] his own worst enemy. {He has
    other enemies, and they are lively, and they are very real and very powerful.} Somehow, since that fateful day, September 11, 2001, John Jenkel has morphed into a kind of 21st Century Jacobin, who would send the perpetrators of 9-11 to the gallows or the guillotine. As a Quaker, I think it is enough to leave their judgment - and their ultimate punishment - in the hands of the unseen, eternal One who sees and knows all - and who does judge all human beings, ultimately...

    As an unreconstructed old - left '60's Berkeley boy with my roots planted firmly in the non- violent tradition of the Quaker Left, and the Civil Rights movement, as led by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., I do not - and also, I can not - agree with John Jenkel's adamant, unbending, harsh, and remorseless insistence on the necessity of the death penalty for George W. Bush, and all of his accomplices who were complicit in the events of 9-11, and in the imposition of the Fascist legislation known as
    Public Law 107-243.

    But I do think that John Jenkel should be heard and known, far beyond the
    Shire of western Sonoma County- and that his case merits a review in some higher Court than the Superior Court of Sonoma County, which has committed such egregious injustice in his case. His persecutors, also, who have hounded, and beaten, and oppressed him only because he has ceaselessly and very relentlessly exercised his First Amendment Rights in the Polis, should also be exposed, and put to public shame.

    And whether this is done through the Judicial process, or in the Court of the Commons, or must wait until the Judgment seat of the Lamb, I for one, do not care... I only know that it shall happen.


    Sincerely,

    Mark Walter Evans



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: IAC [email protected]
    To: [email protected]
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    MARK--AS AN ENVIRONMENTALIST (& SCIENCE TEACHER) MYSELF, MY HEART ESPECIALLY ACHED. PLEASE GIVE OUR CONDOLENCES TO ESP JOHN & HIS FAMILY. I'LL PASS THIS ON TO ORGANIZERS. SOLIDARITY & GOOD LUCK. JIM FOR IAC


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    First Name: Marko
    Last Name: Evans
    Address: 2001 Los Alamos Road
    City: Santa Rosa
    State: CA
    Zip: 95409
    Country: USA
    Phone: 707-538-1720
    Email: [email protected]
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    Dear People of the International Action Center, Greetings:

    Please regard this as a Letter that carries with it a certain amount of Responsibility. Please Read it, and check out the Links. It is an important story - one which concerns everyone who loves trees and people; who cares about the environment, ecology, and also civil rights, property rights, and vast weighty realities like “free speech,” political persecution of dissidents, and social Justice - and Injustice. Please, feel free, also to pass this e-letter on to all of your friends and relations...

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    A Newsworthy Under-reported Story

    At a time when tens of thousands of mortgaged home-owners in the United States are still losing their houses and lands to banks and holding companies every week, another trend, akin to the Assizes of the late Seventeenth century in England, seems to have begun in California. We wonder if there are incidents of this happening elsewhere around the Country...

    We, the citizens and earth-dwellers on a portion of Mother Terra that Luther Burbank likened to the Garden of Eden; known, juristically, as Sonoma County, California, are witnesses to it.

    A very ugly example of ruthless Elder Abuse followed by Arbicide, and what appears to many in this locality to be a politically-motivated, Court-sanctioned Land-grab, has occurred before our eyes, in a very in-your-face manner, on a California State highway designated as a “Scenic Corridor” – a section of State highway 116, just north of the town of Sebastopol, and adjacent to the hamlet of Graton, California. Here are the Links:

    https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showthread.php?79715-Some-Pictures-of-Hobbs-s-Takeover-of-the-Jenkel-Property&p =

    https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20110602/opinion/110609844

    https://www.ksro.com/Programs/KSROAMNews/Interviews/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10243231

    Since this has been, for many of us, a very alarming, eye-opening, and disturbing incident, We, the citizens and earth dwellers of this region think it is fitting that you, who dwell outside our little fish-bowl of Western Sonoma County be made aware of this incident, for it appears to be political in Nature, and an example of political persecution-by-proxy of an unorthodox maverick, a certain John Jenkel, citizen activist, Jacobin republican, and “9-11 Truth” self-defined ”coachman-turned-corruption-fighter;” a man who has made himself a thorn-in-the-side to City Hall, and the local powers-that-be, by his relentless decade-long, one-man campaign for 9-11 accountability. Here is his contact information :

    John Jenkel
    P. O. Box 1822, Sebastopol, California 95473
    Phone #s : 1-707-823-7083; 1-800-500-7083
    E-mail: [email protected]

    We think that it fitting that Civil Libertarians & Reporters & Investigative Journalists from elsewhere on the planet contact Mr. Jenkel, and interview him; towards the ends that a more objective (and perhaps somewhat less biased) Account may emerge…

    - Mark Walter Evans
    - [email protected]
    - www.paleoprogressives.org

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    Why I Have Stuck My Own Neck Out


    Just in case some of you out there in Waccovia think that this one {me-uns} has taken on the thankless task of keeping this “…Hobbs Takeover of the Jenkel Property” thread up & running on this bulletin board, because I have been in the pay – or have tae’en d’Argent frae John Jenkel, hi’sel, former money-bags of anti-War banners in our local Sonoma County scene, please do, disabuse your’ selves o’ that illusion.

    Fact is, I have never ever taken a cent frae the auld disgruntled anti-War warrior. Fact is, the past several times I’ve seen him, or spoken on the phone, he’s taken it upon hi’sel to brand me as his enemy – sent to betray or discredit him.

    And if you – any of you would simply go to the horse’s mouth at this hour, on Today, and would call the auld curmudgeon up {1-800-500-7083} and ask him, your ain selves about the bona fides of this one { i.e., me’sel} you’d probably hear a bit o’ cursin’ in the midst o’ the heated expletives he’d offer you on my account.

    No, he does not – nor has he ever given me a cent mair than the breakfast he bought for me on June 10th at the Willow-Wood Café, in beautiful downtown Graton. So why do I do it? – Why have I taken on the thankless job of writing my poor pathetic screeds on his miserable account, Our latter-day Dreyfus, who at least, unlike old Alfred, is not boring?

    Simple Answer: I must. & indeed, someone must take the time, to keep this thread alive and active – and also post a series o’ cover-letters all around the internet, alertin’ other folks who dwell elsewhere, about the events that have taken place up on highway one sixteen, even if the sae-called “Conscious Community” of the beautiful West County hae got a case o’ collective A.D.D. for grown-ups on the matter of the Hobbs takeover of the Jenkel property...

    I must do it in spite of the fact that I have made myself Vulnerable and Next-in-line by doing so. Truly, I also have a lot to lose, by coming out – even in this silly little forum [no offence tae yuir lovely website, Barry,] because I, Also own property here in beautiful, green Sonoma County. And I am an owner-builder, who never final-ed my beautiful Elizabethan Cottage, because it is not hooked up to a septic system, but instead has an Excel model, Sun-Mar toilet in the bathroom.

    Yes, I also have something to lose - although I won a kind of Mexican Stand-off, fair and square, by my ain combative para-legal paperwork with the Sonoma County honchos, with regards to the status us of my own house & land. I suppose, if I go down in flames, and a winery corporation gobbles up my acreage, others may rise to pontificate over the “unsavory lightness of my undoing” – and still others may say that I “brought it all upon myself.”

    The owners of The GAP do own hundreds of acres on the ridge to the North of me, approximately half a mile, as the crow flies, across a canyon. Every morning their hired Mexican workforce are up at the crack of dawn, converting more of the indigenous Mayacama hill country into vineyard. I thank the Higher Power for the favor of having put a canyon in between me and my nearest neighbors.

    So why do I do it? – Why have I taken this task on? It is not about John Jenkel – though he, involved as he is, in his own drama, may think himself to be the center of the West County universe, we all know that he is not.

    But as a symbol of what the powers-that-be are capable of doing to a man who bravely stuck his own neck out, and doggedly railed against Martial Law, imposed under Public Law 107-243, his case is exceptional and the wrong done unto him is an affront to the Rights of all Citizens in the United States of America.

    And this case must be heard, and known, far and wide – that this has happened, and that the Court has colluded with a Winery LLP to defraud an old gentleman rancher of houses & lands & wealth, all because he diligently exercised his First Amendment Right to express himself in the traditional forums of the Polis.

    The fact that this has taken place in this County should alert anybody who is astute about the nature of Fascism as to the hour we are living in and the utter audacity of the entrenched politico-criminals who currently occupy the seats of power.


    Sincerely,

    Mark Walter Evans

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    A Little bird sent this, para avion d'Electric!
    So I am postin' it to You...



    'Da vexing 9-11 Truth Campaign to end 64 years of Murder
    & Squander for Fascist Gain by Shock & Shame.


    August 6, 2011,
    Abuse News #4882
    by John Jenkel,
    'da 9-11 Bounty Hunter,
    800-500-7083,
    [email protected]


    Can't trust Congress


    Organized crime can control martial law Congress, but it can't control the Dow. Its going down. Go, economic collapse from criminal profiteering and fascist agenda!


    You can't fool the market. The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 513 points on August 4, 2011, two days after an organized crime-sponsored/MARTIAL LAW installing /mass murdering/world terrorizing Congress made a "compromise" to put every man, woman, and child in America further in debt, when we already own over $45,000 per person.


    Over half of our Congress-imposed $14.3 trillion dollar dysfunction is for Hoover Institute-advised United State mass murder and world terrorism in unconstitutional undeclared wars of congressional choice, never necessity, against CIA-fabricated enemies for fascist gain, population management, genocide by bottom feeders in the Christian right, and ALL levels of organized crime, at the expense of we the Congressionally betrayed and media deceived people, and our Democracy.


    Democracy died in our country on October 16, 2002, when sell-out Joseph Biden, pretend Constitutionalist /good Catholic John Boehner, Hillary (Mrs. Taliban) Clinton, John Kerry, Communist China's doll Dianne Feinstein, "worst foreign policy mistake" making gambler's man Harry Reid, 2,798 unplanned murder cover boy Charles Schumer, and 367 other traitors in the 106th Congress authorized the President " to use armed forces as he determines to be necessary," under Public Law 107-243. This fascist law created an elected dictatorship in the White House and installed MARTIAL LAW. If the reader has ANY doubt about this, look at my confiscated horse farm. I am THE most suppressed man in California history! The 3rd unreasonable seizure was personally driven by former constitutionalist Obama.


    Yesterday, the organized crime-sponsored Associated Press anonymously reported "Dow Jones industrial average opens 150 points higher after strong jobs report." Reporter Lucia Mutikai, at organized crime-sponsored Reuters came out with "July payrolls rise soothes recession fears." But fiercely independent Standard & Poor's lowered our Congressionally betrayed country's credit rating. You can't fool S&P!


    Maybe Congress will return FROM VACATION and void its vague and possibly fabricated "compromise" which, as always, favored domestic enemies who profit from mass murder, human suffering, and conflict now costing we the betrayed people $3 billion dollars per day to murder two Americans and dozens of our earth neighbors each day.


    Or maybe our top creditors, Japan and China, will loan us more money for mass murder and terrorism so the rest of the world will kill us for them. Japan will never get over being atomic bombed. Communists hate private property owners.


    One thing is certain. We the people can not trust our MARTIAL LAW Congress! When the average American realizes that she or he has been scammed by Congress again, maybe we the congressionally betrayed people will demand cease fires in unconstitutional undeclared wars of congressional choice, never necessity, and the annulment of democracy ending Public Law 107-243, which was authorized by the dirt bags mentioned above, and 9-11 attempted wife killer George war Bush.

    Naturally,


    John Jenkel,
    'da suppressed 9-11 Bounty Hunter




    P.S.: Google Search: Public Law 107-243.



    Scroll down through the b.s. to "Sec. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR THE USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCE. This fascist law has been used to justify my 17 false arrests and the theft of over $1 million dollars of my hard earned real property by my County of Sonoma, and to destroy over $4 million dollars of my sacred property and to deprive three of my colleagues of motherhood under MARTIAL LAW. MARTIAL LAW is subordinate to constitutional law everywhere in the State of California except against 9-11 Truth Campaigners.


    Fix-it Governor Jerry Brown: Where are you? Help we the congressionally betrayed People of the $153 trillion dysfunctional and $153 trillion congressionally robbed and 651 elected dictator murdered Californians from being suppressed by elected dictators in the Oral Office. Sign the attached executive order, or be part of the problem.




    Attachment: Proposed order ending MARTIAL LAW and

    the murder of 6 Californians per month :




    'Da Vexing 9-11 Truth Campaign to end 64 years of Murder & Squander for Fascist Gain by Shock & Shame.

    July 27, 2011,
    Abuse News #4790
    by John Jenkel,
    'da 9-11
    Bounty Hunter,
    800-500-7083,
    [email protected]


    Proposed order ending MARTIAL LAW
    and the murder of 6 Californians per month:

    State of California
    Executive Order by the
    Office of Governor

    On October 16, 2002, 373 members of the United States Congress, including Senator Dianne Feinstein and Representatives Howard Berman, Ken Calvert, David Drier, Elton Gallegly, Darrell Issa, Jerry Lewis, Mary Bono Mack, Howard McKeon, Gary Miller, Dana Roharabacher, Edward Royce and Adam Schiff from California, and President George w. Bush, installed MARTIAL LAW in the United States. They authorized the President "to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary," under Public Law 107-243.



    MARTIAL LAW is not in pursuance of the Constitution for, not of, our United States and its 27 amendments. Public Law 107-243, under which Congress authorizes "the President to use Armed Forces" at will, converted the Office of the President of the United States into an elected dictatorship and installed military rule in America without we the people being invaded or suffering domestic violence. As a result, California has been robbed of over $153.9 billion of its resources to fund United States mass murder in unconstitutional undeclared wars, and 651 Californians have been murdered by presidents who have criminally and treasonously used armed forces for their criminal profiteering sponsors.
    In our Constitution for, never of, the $153.6 billion dysfunctional and $26 billion insolvent State of California ("CC"), Section 5 of our DECLARATION OF RIGHTS, Article I, mandates: "The military is subordinate to civil power. A standing army may not be maintained in peacetime ."



    Congress has not declared war since it declared wars against Japan, Germany, Italy, Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania in World War II. Therefore, the union of states, including the State of California, is officially "in peacetime." Consequently, it is my duty as the Governor of the State of 651 elected dictator murdered Californians to order that not one cent of California's resources may be used to maintain any army in peacetime. My Office will take action against the United States to recover $153 billion of our public resources which were stolen by Congress for self-appointed commanders in chief and their fascist sponsors. It is also my duty to insure that all public officers in California understand that MARTIAL LAW in the State of California is subordinate to CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. I will use my supreme executive power to annul any action by any public officer in this state who administers martial law in conflict with constitutional law.


    Specifically, under the supreme executive power of this State that is vested in my Office under Section 1 of Article V, CC, to "see that the law is faithfully executed," I hereby annul the unreasonable seizures of Sonoma County Assessor's Parcel Numbers 130-180-051, 130-180-049, and 130-180-065 which were confiscated under Martial Law on November 4, 2009, August 25, 2010, and April 21, 2011. I compel the County of Sonoma to quitclaim these parcels back to the rightful owner, John Jenkel. These parcels were taken by the County of Sonoma under the pretense of legal authority in two harassing civil cases. They were seized without court orders under MARTIAL LAW installed by democracy ending Public betrayal 107-243. All of this was designed to terrorize my childhood friend John Jenkel and to destroy his vitally important 9-11 Truth Campaign. I will not stand for it!


    SO COMPELLED.
    Dated: By_________________________
    Governor of California

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    Why I Have Stuck My Own Neck Out



    Thank you Mark, you are a saint to keep this alive; and offer to fact check and edit Jenkel's work.

    After 8 years of doing my own discovery; I can validate most of it.

    Bless you,

    Colleen
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    Eight thousand, nine hundred, twenty-seven, and counting
    ...


    … Because it is a vitally important story, for many reasons that effect us all; a story with ramifications that reverberate far beyond the scenic corridor of highway one sixteen, and the neighborhood of the formerly lovely apple towns of Graton and Sebastopol, which are now far along in the process of “vintrification.”



    Request for Help to Make Documentary,
    Take Two:



    Hey ! If there are people in the WaaccoBB circuit who would be interested in forming a “Cabal,” let’s call it, of five people, to approach John Jenkel himself, and interview him and make a Documentary of him and his spiel, I throw my own hat in the ring as a challenge to all you locals. We need a camera-man, or better yet a Camerawoman! We could also use the skills of a tough, focused Woman who possesses plenty of chuztpa; and who is familiar with, and has interviewing skills on a par with the late Oriana Fallachi; and who can get Mr. Jenkel to focus, and stay on track with her pointed Questions.

    We could also utilize a Producer and a Director in the Cabal, for said Documentary - tentatively entitled LAND-GRAB ... We also could use a digital or video-cam Film Editor, with the skills to polish the final product, and post it on YouTube.


    Meanwhile, If you would like to spread this story even further, you may copy the following missive or you may write your own, and post it all over the internet, as I have been doing.

    - Mark Walter Evans


    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



    Dear ________________

    Please regard this as a Letter that carries with it a certain amount of Responsibility. Please Read it, and check out the Links. It is an important story - one which concerns everyone who loves trees and people; who cares about the environment, ecology, and also civil rights, property rights, and vast weighty realities like “free speech,” the political persecution of all heretics and dissidents - and Social Justice - and Injustice. Please, feel free, also to post this e-letter on to all of your friends and relations...

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    A Newsworthy Under-reported Story


    At a time when, in spite of the fact that the "Change" that Barack Obama promised us has failed to come about, and tens of thousands of mortgaged home-owners in the United States are still losing their houses and lands to banks and holding companies every week, Another trend, akin to the Assizes of the late Seventeenth Century in England, seems to have begun in California. We wonder if there are incidents of this happening elsewhere around the Country...

    We, the citizens and earth-dwellers on a portion of Mother Terra that Luther Burbank likened to the Garden of Eden; known, Juristically, as Sonoma County, California, United States of America, are witnesses to it.

    A very ugly example of ruthless Elder Abuse followed by Arbicide, and what appears to many in this locality to be a politically-motivated, Court-sanctioned Land-grab, has occurred before our eyes, in a very in-your-face manner, on a California State highway designated as a “Scenic Corridor” – a section of State highway 116, just north of the town of Sebastopol, and adjacent to the hamlet of Graton, California. Here are a few Links:


    https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showth...kel-Property&p=

    https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article...nion/110609844


    https://www.ksro.com/Programs/KSROAMN...tryID=10243231


    Since this has been, for many of us, a very alarming, eye-opening, and disturbing incident, We, the citizens and earth-dwellers of this region think it is fitting that you, who dwell outside our little fish-bowl of Western Sonoma County be made aware of this incident, for it appears to be political in Nature, and an example of political persecution-by-proxy of an unorthodox maverick, a certain John Jenkel, citizen, self-proclaimed "coachman turned corruption-fighter," and “9-11 truth” dissident; a man who has made himself a thorn-in-the-side to City Hall, and the powers-that-be, by his relentless, eight+ year, one-man campaign for 9/11 accountability. Here is his contact information :

    John Jenkel
    P. O. Box 1822,
    Sebastopol, California
    95473


    Phone #: 1-800-500-7083
    E-mail: [email protected]

    We think that it is fitting that Reporters and investigative Journalists from elsewhere on the planet contact Mr. Jenkel, and interview him; towards the ends that a more objective (and perhaps somewhat less biased) Account may emerge…


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    The Facts of the Matter :


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    Let us not be afraid to take this issue on, and stay with it, and not “just let it peter out.” Let us establish a Fact-finding Committee. Let us begin by establishing some of the Facts, as they may be ascertained, and are known:

    A) John Jenkel was born into a lower-Upper Class family in San Francisco, in 1938. He is a Stanford man; he graduated at the age of twenty-one. He "may be crazy, but he sure is smart." Facts.


    B) John Jenkel purchased his original 15 acres on hwy 116, in 1965, at the age of twenty-six, with his own hard-earned money – and with only a little help towards the down payment, from his wealthy father. Fact.

    C) All his adult life, John Jenkel has been a hard-working man - as a building contractor, rancher & horseman. He was rich; once, and was, for years, a respected member of the Graton & Sebastopol Community. He raised his children – four of them, in the Community. Fact.

    D) John Jenkel has always been – and still is - a registered Republican; from the Secular, Humanist, Constitutionalist wing of the Republican Party. Fact.

    E) John Jenkel used to work for the Bohemian Grove - as the driver of his own team of horses; he pulled the Casket in their “Cremation of Care Ceremony” for many years. Fact.

    F) In 1998, A young wiz-kid vintner, Paul Hobbs, and his brother Matthew Hobbs, bought nineteen land-locked acres adjacent, and just to the North of Mr. Jenkel’s 15 acres on hwy 116. Fact.

    G) The Hobbs brothers approached Mr. Jenkel and asked him if he would grant them an easement through his property so that they could gain access by road to their land-locked 19 acres; allowing them to build a winery – which was represented to Mr. Jenkel as a wooden, Mid-Western style, Barn. Fact.

    H) John Jenkel agreed to grant them this easement; asking for no money at all – merely the consideration: 1) That they would leave intact, and agree not to log a grove of sixty trees which he loved, that were one hundred and twenty-five years old, adjacent to his own land, and 2) That they would grant an easement for a Public trail along the northern boundary of their property, that would link a foot-trail from Santa Rosa, with a foot-trail to the Coast. The Hobbs brothers agreed to these terms. Fact

    I) On September 11, 2001, Mr. John Jenkel, Republican, gentleman Equestrian, West-County Squire, had a life-changing epiphany – an inciting incident, that forever changed his life: he was able to see through the media send-up of the staged “Attack” on the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center, and realized that it was “an Inside Job.” Fact.

    J) From that point on Mr. John Jenkel became obsessed about the events of 9/11, and a man with a mission. In a manner similar to the way that the late Mae Brussell, liberal Kennedy Democrat, saw through the Media version of November 22, 1963, and was galvanized to begin years of Research & activism, exposing the perpetrators of the Kennedy assassination and cover-up; John Jenkel was galvanized by the events of September 11, 2001. He became, in like manner, a compiler of a vast corpus of Information, which he assembled in his study, in a plethora of white binders. Fact.

    K) John Jenkel came to the conclusion - through careful clipping of numerous news articles and data from the internet - that some of the favorite sons of Bohemian Grove, notably Ken Lay, of Enron, Inc, and George W. Bush, were behind the planning & execution of 9/11. Fact.


    L) In 2002, John Jenkel began to go public, at Peace Rallies and anti-War Marches, taking his Conservative stand against the invasion of Afghanistan, and the Un-constitutionality of Public Law 107-243, to the streets. He began to pro-actively express his First Amendment prerogative, and speak openly in every public forum he could find, and state publicly that 9/11 was an Inside Job, because of which, Public Law 107-243 was the equivalent of a Coup d’etat against the Constitution. Fact.

    M) Public Law 107-243 is the Law that gave W. unlimited war powers to conduct unlimited wars against “Terrorism” anywhere on the planet, in violation of the U.S. Constitution. As a Constitutionalist, John Jenkel was opposed, in principle, to this abrogation of the Constitution. Fact.

    N) Also, in 2002, the Hobbs brothers cut down four of the trees in the grove that they had promised to protect under the terms of the easement agreement they had signed with Mr. Jenkel. From that time, Mr. Jenkel informed them that he wanted nothing more to do with them. Fact.

    O) John Jenkel, having morphed from being a privileged, if lower echelon, & hired member of the Bohemian Grove, to being an outcast, & pariah to the Republican Party top brass, attributed his ostracism to the machinations of Willie Brown. Factoid – to be examined…

    P) John Jenkel took his mission for 9/11 Accountability very seriously, and at every opportunity stumped for the Cause, to demand publicly of various elected officials that they get behind his push to repeal Public Law 107-243, and to end Martial Law, and to withdraw the troops from Afghanistan and Iraq… Fact.

    Q) He also hired many part-time employees to carry and hold signs and banners with bold statements decrying the guilt of the perpetrators of 9/11. He says that he has spent over one million dollars in this Cause. Fact.

    R) By his incessant public appearances, over the course of nine years, stumping for 9/11 accountability, in the Sebastopol City Council, before the Sonoma County Board of Supervisors, in the Sonoma County Court-house, and in Sacramento, John Jenkel eventually made himself tiresome to the powers-that-be, even to some of those who had been, in closet, somewhat in agreement with his “good intentions.” Factoid - to be examined…

    S) In a similar manner, the local Left, and the Peace & Justice Community, though originally considering him to be interesting, & something of a novelty, eventually tired of him, when the novelty wore off. Through his combative, in-your-face manner, John Jenkel was in part responsible for some of this eventual ennui surrounding his one-man 9/11 Truth crusade.

    The "audacity of hype" syndrome also may have contributed to his coming to sound like a broken record to some... Another plausible explanation is the human tendency to despise Cassandras and to stone the bearers of bad news; as well as the Left’s
    own unconscious shame at being outdone and out-distanced in anti-War zeal by a man they perceived to be of the Right.

    In Reality, John Jenkel’s own political path may have led him, unconsciously, to a political position somewhat akin to the camp of the old Jacobin
    wing of the early Republican Party - with
    Charles Sumner, Wade Davis, Zachariah Chandler, and Thaddeus Stevens. Hypothesis – to be examined…

    T) On the home front, even while he was out on the streets, and in the city councils and Courthouses, fighting the "good fight," John Jenkel found himself being put upon by his winery neighbors, through a series of mandamuses and torts. He retaliated, in Court, with a series of Responses & Petitions; and at home, by lining up a bunch of old junk cars along the driveway of the easement he had granted to the Hobbs Winery, LLP, and placing anti-war and anti-winery propaganda on the rusted hulks of these junk cars. Fact.

    U) Somehow – no one who was not present in the Courtroom for all of the pre-trial motions, & hearings, et cetera, et cetera, knows how - John Jenkel was found guilty of god knows what by the Superior Court of Sonoma County, and ordered to pay 350,000 dollars in damages to his winery neighbors, for allegedly damaging some of the trees in the grove they had promised to maintain for the consideration he had requested; for the easement he had freely granted them in the first place. Convoluted, I know; I didn’t make it up… Facts? – Please! - Open to Inquiry…

    V) This alleged “damage” was supposedly done because Mr. Jenkel’s well was spitting out sand for a period of seven months one winter, after it had run dry on account of the winery having run the water-table down. Water from Mr. Jenkel’s well supposedly ran down a thirteen degree slope above the trees, and caused one of the trees to fall down. Fact? – Open to Inquiry…

    W) The trees – all of them - were cut down, anyway, by the Hobbs LLP, and instead of one “Mid-western wooden barn,” there is a complex of four very ugly steel-beamed buildings that Mr. Jenkel likens to Auschwitz, and calls “Stalag 116.” Fact.

    = I agree with him: it does look like Auschwitz. =

    X) Mr. Paul Hobbs and his LLP partners, were then able, somehow – again God knows how - to swing a sweetheart deal with the Court and purchase seven acres of what was formerly Mr. Jenkel's land in three allegedly closed to the general public “Auctions” in a back room of the Sheriffs Department, for cents on the dollar. The last piece, a parcel of three acres, was acquired by Paul Hobbs in a closed “auction” for a mere one thousand dollars. – Facts? - Allegations ? – Worthy points of Inquiry, certainly.

    Y) Mr. John Jenkel maintains that he has been defrauded of his property and tenements by a Limited Liability Partnership who were willing to be used as a proxy by former governor Arnold Shwarzenegger and his sponsor and financial uncle, Enron investor Warren Buffett in their vendetta to punish him because of his nine-year political career of tirelessly stumping for repeal of Public Law 107-243, and the repeal of Martial Law, that has been in place, ever since the traumatic aftermath of 9/11. John Jenkel maintains that such procedures and land- seizures are inherently un-Constitutional, and could only happen because we are still under Martial Law. And - lo and behold - Public Law 107-243 is still in effect. Fact.

    Z) The Sum of all these circumstances and points - and all of the unresolved Questions that still remain in the minds of many people do merit a worthy Subject for an Open, Public Hearing – and a Committee of Inquiry into all of the allegations of Citizen John Jenkel. Fact.
    I would encourage everyone who cares about any or all of the points enumerated in the litany Above, to visit the wild old codger, himself.

    Quote Iolchan wrote:

    Bring a Notepad, or a Tape Recorder and ask him a few Questions. And while you're at it, assemble a few Facts, will ya? That way you can acquit yourselves as having the "first-hand experience" that the Yelp Guidelines call for...

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    Hi inezelia,

    We're writing to inform you that we've decided to remove your review of Paul Hobbs Winery. We don't take this decision lightly, and appreciate the seriousness of the allegations in your review. Nevertheless our Content Guidelines (
    https://www.yelp.com/guidelines) are very clear in outlining the need for a first-hand experience, and we think this an important requirement for maintaining Yelp as a useful site for consumer reviews. Responding to a news story or other users' reviews falls outside of a core first-hand experience of the business.

    That being said, we would never wish to stifle discussion on any of the issues you've raised, and our Talk section (
    https://www.yelp.com/talk) may be a great forum for your opinions regarding this incident.

    Please know that we review every situation with great attention and take this matter very seriously.
    We need Facts, to understand this thing = and the Nature, as they say, of the Beast. We also need first-hand scoping-out of the Scene, as they call it. No mayhem, please.

    Let John Jenkel take you up on the roof of his study, where you can see the Paul Hobbs Winery LLP operation in all its Auschwitzian banality. Indeed, the whole operation should be called "Stalag 116" as John Jenkel has termed it.
    The Paul Hobbs Winery, LLP is a blight on the landscape. Architecturally, die Fabrik is a dead-ringer for Auschwitz.

    It only lacks gas chambers, crematoria, smoke-stacks, and the unpleasant odor of smoke.

    Seriously,

    Mark Walter Evans

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    Re: Some Pictures of Hobbs's Takeover of the Jenkel Property

    a few more bits of info gathered in my wanderings;

    the painting contractor i talked to when i drove into hobbs land a few weeks ago told me that hobbs bought his first land from jenkel!

    the story about the civil suit on the pd watch sonoma county forum is that jenkels new sand filter did malfunction for a few months (running constantly), before it was fixed. this did damage a few of hobbs old trees, though not the one which fell and clipped the winery. most of the 160k hobbs wanted in the suit was for tree removal. judge nadler doubled the ask in the judgement and didn't say why.

    negative reviews of hobbs wine on yelp do get removed, but only when flagged by hobbsians. my last one has been up for about two weeks.

    when i listened to carrillo at the sebastopol library a week ago he trashed hobbs (he also said he would probably vote again for the massive new winery at occidental and 116 and would judge the merits of "preservation" ranch, a 1600 acre deep rip of coastal timberland for vines, when the eir is delivered). from the county government perspective, hobbs is now the bad boy of grape growers.

    i wrote a letter to the pd when hobbs wine was promoted naming paul hobbs as a "bad cork" among sonoma wineries. not published. a recent letter from his winery neighbor was, basically saying, "its not us!"

    thanks for keeping this thread alive mark, when is comes to environmental destruction locally, the grape industry is an active force. and water is the biggest issue.
    mrs ross
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    I would encourage everyone who cares about any or all of the points enumerated in the litany Above, to visit the wild old codger, himself.


    Seriously,

    Mark Walter Evans

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