Will 2010 be the hottest year worldwide since record keeping began??

[Zeno Swijtink]

Last month was the hottest June recorded worldwide, figures show
US government climate data suggests 2010 on course to be warmest year since records began



World temperature anomalies in June 2010 Photograph: NCDC/NESDIS/NOAA

Last month was the hottest June ever recorded worldwide and the fourth consecutive month that the combined global land and sea temperature records have been broken, according to the US government's climate data centre.

The figures released last night by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) suggest that 2010 is now on course to be the warmest year since records began in 1880.

The trend to a warmer world is now incontrovertible. According to NOAA, June was the 304th consecutive month with a combined global land and surface temperature above the 20th-century average. The last month with below-average temperatures was February 1985. Each of the 10 warmest average global temperatures recorded since 1880 have occurred in the last 15 years with the previous warmest first half of a year in 1998.

Temperature anomalies included Spain, which experienced its coolest June temperature since 1997, and Guizhou in southern China, which had its coolest June on record. According to Beijing Climate Centre, Inner Mongolia, Heilongjiang, and Jilin experienced their warmest June since their records began in 1951.

Scientists expressed surprise that the June land surface temperature exceeded the previous record by 0.11C (0.20F). "This large difference over land contributed strongly to the overall global land and ocean temperature anomaly," said John Leslie, a spokesman for NOAA.

Separate satellite data from the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre in Colorado shows that the extent of sea ice in the Arctic was at its lowest for any June since satellite records started in 1979. The icy skin over the Arctic Ocean grows each winter and shrinks in summer, reaching its annual low point in September. The monthly average for June 2010 was 10.87 km sq. The ice was declining an average of 88,000 sq km per day in June.

In a further possible sign of a warming world, the Jakobshavn Isbrae glacier, one of the largest in Greenland, lost a 2.7-square mile chunk of ice and retreated one mile between 6-7 July – one of the largest single losses to a glacier ever recorded.

The glacier, a tongue of the Greenland ice sheet, has retreated six miles since 2000 and more than 27 miles since 1850. It is believed to be the single largest contributor to sea level rise in the northern hemisphere.

Greenland's ice sheet, a vast body of ancient ice covering 1.7m sq km, is melting today more rapidly than only a few decades ago. Since 2000, the ice sheet is calculated to have lost about 1,500 cubic kilometres of water– enough to raise global sea levels by 5mm . If the entire ice sheet melted, the world's oceans would rise by over six metres.

Glaciologists expressed surprise at the speed of the break-up of the glacier: "This is unusual because it occurs on the heels of a warm winter that saw no sea ice form in the surrounding bay ... it lends credence to the theory that warming of the oceans is responsible for the ice loss observed throughout Greenland and Antarctica," said Nasa scientist Thomas Wagner.

"These are clear signs of a rapidly warming world and exactly what the climate models have predicted. Thankfully, there is a way out of it if we can get greenhouse gas emissions under control," said Ben Stewart of Greenpeace.

[Speak2Truth]

The oceans have risen over 400 feet already, most of it long before Mankind ever built a major city much less a steam engine. This is normal and predictable. It has happened before.




As for average temperatures, it is still cooler now than it was 1000 years ago. We have a long way to go to catch up, after these brief, mini ice ages.




This is all within normal parameters.

["Mad" Miles]

God Damn Socialists!

They've invented the myth of Man Made Global Warming in an evil plot to deny us all the benefits of Free Market Capitalism.

Something must be done, I tell you!

Something!!!!

[Speak2Truth]

See, you are starting to catch on.

It wasn't too long ago in human history that some clever schmucks invented the myth that they had to rip the beating heart out of a human being to make sure the sun would rise, to "save the planet". And, by the way, The People had to give them lots of loot and keep them living in luxury because they were the special ones saving everyone. Yeah, enough of the masses were stupid enough to fall for that one too.

That is why this nation was not created as a 'democracy' - o protect us from charlatans and the masses of "useful idiots" they prey upon.

Sure enough, those Socialists are getting rich off redirecting our cash into their pockets in the name of "saving the planet" - again.

Former Vice President Al Gore is co-founder and Chairman of Generation Investment Management
Team | Generation Investment Management LLP

Gore's 'carbon offsets' paid to firm he owns
Critics say justification for energy-rich lifestyle serves as way for former VP to profit
Gore's 'carbon offsets' paid to firm he owns

Gore's Home Still Guzzling Energy - energy use increased since 'green' additions made
Information obtained through a public records request to the Nashville Electric Service
https://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/...mo_code=648C-1

Stunning Pictures of Al Gore's New $9 Million Mansion in Montecito Media Totally Ignored
Stunning Pictures of Al Gore's New $9 Million Mansion Media Totally Ignored | NewsBusters.org

Al is not the only one.

Obama camp closely linked with corn ethanol. Tom Daschle on board of directors of three ethanol companies.
Industry endorsed by candidate has provided some of his top advisers
NYT: Obama closely linked with ethanol - Politics - The New York Times - msnbc.com

Climate-Gate Scientist Michael Mann Award Half A Million In Stimulus Money
Author of "hockey stick" graph rewarded for his part in climate-gate scheme
Climate-Gate Scientist Michael Mann Award Half A Million In Stimulus Money FRISK A LIBERAL

Funny thing is, whenever the planet warms, the CO2 rises and plant life prospers as a result. Warming causes the release of CO2 that "greens" the planet. Hooray!

[Sylph]

The climate denial echo chamber is again in high gear trying to assassinate the character of respected scientist Michael Mann of Penn State. Their latest ruse is to squawk that Dr. Mann is the indirect recipient of federal stimulus dollars.
That is not at all surprising since last year $3 billion in federal stimulus funds was provided to the National Science Foundation in addition to their normal budget of about $6 billion. That means that about one third of all research grants from the NSF nation-wide benefited from stimulus money.
Lets drill a little deeper into this smear campaign. Penn State and the University of Hawaii both shared a grant of $770,000 for a research project called “Improved Projections of the Climate Response to Anthropogenic Forcing: Combining Paleoclimate Proxy and Instrumental Observations with an Earth System Model”.
Of this money, Dr. Mann received $57,000 (or 7.5%) over a three-year period, or $19,000 a year. Clearly these climate scientists are in it for the money…

["Mad" Miles]

See, you are starting to catch on.

It wasn't too long ago in human history that some clever schmucks invented the myth that they had to rip the beating heart out of a human being to make sure the sun would rise, to "save the planet". And, by the way, The People had to give them lots of loot and keep them living in luxury because they were the special ones saving everyone. Yeah, enough of the masses were stupid enough to fall for that one too.

That is why this nation was not created as a 'democracy' - o protect us from charlatans and the masses of "useful idiots" they prey upon.

Sure enough, those Socialists are getting rich off redirecting our cash into their pockets in the name of "saving the planet" - again.

So the Aztecs were Socialists... God Damn Aztec Socialists. They were ruining the country, til Cortez came along and set them straight.

Yay Cortez, kill all those goddamn Socialist Aztecs. Kill Socialist Aztecs! Kill!

And since MECHA wants to reclaim Aztlan, Watch Out!!!

Angry Aztec Socialists are going to rip your heart out on top of a pyramid!

2012 is just around the corner. They're gonna get us!

Oh wait, those were Mayans. Goddamn Socialist Mayans and their anti-capitalist calendar.

Obama is an Aztec/Mayan plant who wants your heart ripped out by Socialist priests.

The Masonic Illuminati are in on it too!!!

Them's the FACTS!!!

I've got the websites to prove it!!!!

[Speak2Truth]

Miles, are you having a meltdown? LOL!!!

If you can't discuss the facts, just go nutz. It's the leftist way.

[jbox]

God Damn Socialists!

They've invented the myth of Man Made Global Warming in an evil plot to deny us all the benefits of Free Market Capitalism.

Something must be done, I tell you!

Something!!!!

Miles - Please, take a breath, or else you're gonna be singing I GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS !!!!!!!!!

["Mad" Miles]

Miles - Please, take a breath, or else you're gonna be singing I GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS !!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the good advice, good buddy jbox.

But it's more like bedsores on my butt and a bigger paunch from sitting in front of this flat screen with my feet up for hours on end, day in day out.

Oh, and the carpal tunnel creeping up in my right hand.

What I sacrifice for the common good, I tells ya! (Sic.)

(G.D.F.S.S.S.A.!!!)

[OrchardDweller]

Minneapolis Metrodome's inflatable roof collapses as 20 INCHES of snow is dumped on Midwest in ONE DAY
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-ONE-DAY.html

WEATHER: 35,000 DEATHS FEAR IN NEW ARCTIC BLIZZARDS
https://www.express.co.uk/posts/view...ctic-blizzards

Return of the big freeze threatens delivery of your online Christmas presents
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-presents.html

L.A. sets more record low temperatures
https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...eratures-.html

San Diego's second day of record low temperatures
https://www.signonsandiego.com/news/...-straight-day/

Fort Lauderdale breaks cold record for Dec. 7
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/br...,6900801.story

Record low temperature set this morning in Oklahoma City
https://newsok.com/record-low-temper...rticle/3501242

Record low of 32 set at Spokane airport today
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/20...low-60s-today/

Sandstorms, snow and floods hit Middle East
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ddle-East.html

Cold Record in the Antarctic
https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...ctic-last-week

Cold snap drives residents to shelter in DeFuniak
https://dailyme.com/story/2010121100...-defuniak.html

Hard freeze forecast for area likely to devastate crops; cold weather shelters to open
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/weathe...e-1116483.html

Record low temperatures recorded in Long Beach, Santa Barbara
https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...ta-barbara.htm

Cold blast hits eastern half of USA
https://www.usatoday.com/weather/new...old07_ST_N.htm

Too many to list!

and then there are all the news stories about record low temperatures in Cancun during Al Gore/the UN's recent summit...
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/...cancun-mexico/

[Barry]

[B]Minneapolis Metrodome's inflatable roof collapses as 20 INCHES of snow is dumped on Midwest in ONE DAY...

All of which is about weather rather than climate.

And the issue is more about climate "change" rather than warming, since as the global warms overall, the climate may get colder in certain places. So your links are actually supportive of climate change, even if they are really about weather.

[Clancy]

[B]Minneapolis Metrodome's inflatable roof collapses as 20 INCHES of snow is dumped on Midwest in ONE DAY...

Didn't you just make a post lamenting how stupid Americans have become? The very same scientific method used to record the low temperatures you cite also shows that "June was the 304th consecutive month with a combined global land and surface temperature above the 20th-century average. The last month with below-average temperatures was February 1985. Each of the 10 warmest average global temperatures recorded since 1880 have occurred in the last 15 years..."

Being familiar with your recent post history, I expect the above scientific facts to sadly run off you like water off a duck, but for anyone else reading this, cherry-picked local records aren't relevant, (and there's no doubt far more record HIGHS that our OrchardDweller is conveniently ignoring), but what the original post is saying is that the average global temperature is continuing to break record highs.

sheesh.

[OrchardDweller]

I watched Al Gore’s movie and it was about Global Warming. That evil CO2 was gonna push temperatures so high that Al had to get on a crane to get to the top of that graph. Global warming! Global warming! Don’t you remember?

But when it became obvious that world temperatures were declining, it was changed to “climate change” as if the climate isn’t supposed to change. The climate has always changed. They used to have vinyards in northern England. The climate also changes on other planets. In fact, the other planets in our solar system have been warming and cooling right along with us. Do a search using a planet's name and add "global warming", or "climate change". Pay attention to the dates of the NASA and MIT stories.

Climate change. What’ll we be blamed for next? Weather change? Temperature change? I think there’s scientific evidence now that the seasons have been changing. Hear that Al? David Rockefeller? You better come save us with your regulations and taxes which benefit you and your associates. Come save us on your private jets please.

Believe and say what you want. You’re the WaccoBB core. Despite all the evidence that has been presented here over the years, you continue to push global warming. And vaccines. And bad politicians (or are you still defending Obama?). You show no respect for our intelligent community. Just who do you think you’re fooling?

[OrchardDweller]

I've dealt with Clancy before. You can see a three year old thread here (Clancy went back and removed or changed posts)

https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...-Warming-Fraud

[OrchardDweller]

Hundreds of new cold and snow records set in the USA

Record Events for Mon Dec 6, 2010 through Sun Dec 12, 2010
Total Records: 2002
Rainfall: 319
Snowfall: 320
High Temperatures: 71
Low Temperatures: 426
Lowest Max Temperatures: 767
Highest Min Temperatures: 99

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/...et-in-the-usa/

This probably will also be upsetting to the WaccoBB core. The thread is called "Will 2010 be the hottest year worldwide since record keeping began??". But if you post articles showing how the weather has been, it'll upset them.

[Clancy]

This probably will also be upsetting to the WaccoBB core. The thread is called "Will 2010 be the hottest year worldwide since record keeping began??". But if you post articles showing how the weather has been, it'll upset them.

Yes, it's true that there are many record low temperatures being set. What you're intentionally ignoring is that there are TWICE as many record HIGH temperatures being set at the same time. If there were no global warming, the rate of high and low records being set would be approximately the same. Please, show just the slightest bit of integrity (intellectual and otherwise) and read the following article.



Record High Temperatures Far Outpace Record Lows Across US

ScienceDaily (Nov. 13, 2009) — Spurred by a warming climate, daily record high temperatures occurred twice as often as record lows over the last decade across the continental United States, new research shows. The ratio of record highs to lows is likely to increase dramatically in coming decades if emissions of greenhouse gases continue to climb.
https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...Lows-Across-US

[someguy]

Dr. Uffe Ravnskov M.D. explains " If a scientific hypothesis is sound, it must agree with ALL observations. A hypothesis is not like a sports event, where the team with greatest number of points wins the game. Even one observation that does not support a hypothesis is enough to disprove it. The proponents of a scientific idea have the burden of proof on their shoulders. The opponent doesn't have to present an alternative idea; his task is only to find the weakness in the hypothesis. If there is only one proof against it, one proof that can not be denied and that is based on reliable scientific observations, the hypothesis must be rejected."

Of course Dr. Ravnskov was talking about the diet heart hypothesis stating that cholesterol and saturated fat are the cause of heart disease (another false consensus among the scientific community and general public), but it applies across the board to all scientific hypotheses.

Want to see the weakness in the Man Made Climate Change hypothesis (as I have posted before and no one has yet to comment on) : Page four on this report is a graph from peer reviewed scientific literature authored by Lindzen and Choi.
https://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/i...rt_july_09.pdf

Here is the actual peer reviewed Lindzen and Choi paper: https://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/20...GL039628.shtml

For those who do not wish to read the links I'll explain what the paper proves. A large part of the Man Made Climate Change hypothesis states that out-going long wave radiation is being trapped in our atmosphere and there have been many prediction models based on this assumption. However, this actual measurement of long wave radiation shows quite the opposite is taking place.

Another key observation that contradicts the supposed catastrophic effects caused by a increase in global temperature can be found here: https://www.sciencemag.org/content/3...os%20Jaramillo

This report published in Science magazine examines the effects of rapid global warming as seen in the Paleocene-Eocene era. temperatures back then raised 3 - 5 degrees Celsius (certain doom as predicted by the IPCC) and most all life forms flourished, especially plants, which saw an increase in diversity in tropical regions. So much for the dooms day theory.

[Barry]

Believe and say what you want. You’re the WaccoBB core. Despite all the evidence that has been presented here over the years, you continue to push global warming. And vaccines. And bad politicians (or are you still defending Obama?). You show no respect for our intelligent community. Just who do you think you’re fooling?

Are you talking about me? Yes, I still think Man Made Climate Change is happening, and so do 90+% of scientists. There's even a couple Republican Representative that can no longer deny the evidence.

I don't recall pushing vaccines. The only one I get is tetanus and skip the rest, for both me and my kids.
I've got alot of problems with Obama, but he's clearly the best electable option! You'd prefer McCain? Nadar and Paul are not going to get elected, ever! Obama maybe becoming a better leader, even if the direction he is leading is drifting further off course!

You're the one out of step around here, but that's OK.

[OrchardDweller]

no Barry, but you might question your news sources.


Americans cool to global warming: poll
https://news.smh.com.au/breaking-new...1208-kg0l.html

Americans' Global Warming Concerns Continue to Drop
https://www.gallup.com/poll/126560/a...inue-drop.aspx

Global warming is not our fault, say most voters in Times poll
https://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne...cle6916648.ece

Majority Now Disbelieve Man-Made Global Warming Propaganda
https://www.prisonplanet.com/majorit...ropaganda.html
https://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/bs...matechange.pdf

Poll: Less Than 1/3 Of Americans Believe “Most Scientists Agree” On Global Warming
https://www.prisonplanet.com/poll-le...l-warming.html
https://www.ap-gfkpoll.com/pdf/AP-St...ll_Topline.pdf


Can't win? How negative. Any candidate can win if the people vote for them and the votes are fairly counted. "He can't win" is something the corporate media pushes. It's apparently an accepted truth now. TV pushes it, it bypasses critical thinking, and people repeat it. Should one vote for the candidate that he thinks will win, or the candidate that he thinks should win. If everybody did the latter, I think we'd have a better country and we might finally see some actual progress. Besides, a third party candidate just getting a significant percentage of the vote can have a influence in politics. The other parties will shift for those votes. Vote your conscience.

[Clancy]

...bypasses critical thinking...

Amazing. When shown proof that record highs are happening twice as often as lows you simply ignore it. Talk about a lack of critical thinking; watching your evasions is genuinely unsettling.

[someguy]

Amazing. When shown proof that record highs are happening twice as often as lows you simply ignore it. Talk about a lack of critical thinking; watching your evasions is genuinely unsettling.

What is truly amazing is that I have presented the facts that prove the hypothesis of Man Made Climate Change and it's impact to be flawed at it's core and nobody will even consider it here. That's something else. What else is interesting is the temperature hasn't risen in over a decade and you won't dare to acknowledge that. What else is super insane, is that a warmer climate would be beneficial for us and we are arguing about what is causing this amazing process as if it matters. Like Simon Winchester (noted intellectual and liberal) said on KPFA's Letter's to Washington show a few weeks ago, it is so very egotistical to think that man has any significant impact when it comes to something as massive and complex as our environment.

[Clancy]

I know you feel neglected, but we're talking about the ratio of record high temps compared to record lows. Given that record highs are happening twice as often as record lows, does that mean anything to you?

What is truly amazing is that I have presented the facts that prove the hypothesis of Man Made Climate Change and it's impact to be flawed at it's core and nobody will even consider it here. That's something else. What else is interesting is the temperature hasn't risen in over a decade and you won't dare to acknowledge that. What else is super insane, is that a warmer climate would be beneficial for us and we are arguing about what is causing this amazing process as if it matters. Like Simon Winchester (noted intellectual and liberal) said on KPFA's Letter's to Washington show a few weeks ago, it is so very egotistical to think that man has any significant impact when it comes to something as massive and complex as our environment.

[someguy]

I know you feel neglected, but we're talking about the ratio of record high temps compared to record lows. Given that record highs are happening twice as often as record lows, does that mean anything to you?

Yes it does. It indicates that the temperatures have risen a little bit. What caused it? Who knows? But the temperature has risen above this before and it has been a good thing for the majority of life on this planet as I pointed out earlier. So this debate you are seeking is really for nothing at all since we already have read the Climategate emails, which are damning pieces of evidence, observed the actual data (not models) that proves this theory to be flawed, observed time and again how consensus based science is flawed as our collective knowledge of everything is continually growing and updating, and discovered that warming would be a good thing for our planet and us!

[Clancy]

The "climategate" emails are nothing but a tempest in a teapot, created by organizations that have a financial interest in denying reality.

Newsweek: Climategate Doesn't Refute Global Warming
https://www.newsweek.com/2009/12/10/climategate.html

Yes it does. It indicates that the temperatures have risen a little bit. What caused it? Who knows? But the temperature has risen above this before and it has been a good thing for the majority of life on this planet as I pointed out earlier. So this debate you are seeking is really for nothing at all since we already have read the Climategate emails, which are damning pieces of evidence, observed the actual data (not models) that proves this theory to be flawed, observed time and again how consensus based science is flawed as our collective knowledge of everything is continually growing and updating, and discovered that warming would be a good thing for our planet and us!

[busyb555]

Problem is they just don't want to remove the Obama in 08 and the global warming/climate change bumper stickers from the back of their cars no matter what the facts of the case. Amazing as it may be they are stuck on their truth and the facts will never reach them.

[Clancy]

Problem is they just don't want to remove the Obama in 08 and the global warming/climate change bumper stickers from the back of their cars no matter what the facts of the case. Amazing as it may be they are stuck on their truth and the facts will never reach them.

Your ignorance of the people you're whining about is funny; I'm probably Obama's biggest critic here. Your intentional ignorance of science is tragic.

[someguy]

The "climategate" emails are nothing but a tempest in a teapot, created by organizations that have a financial interest in denying reality.

Newsweek: Climategate Doesn't Refute Global Warming
https://www.newsweek.com/2009/12/10/climategate.html

Rather than reading Newsweek, why don't you read the hacked e-mails for yourself? What have you got to lose?

And why don't you address the whole argument I laid out? You talk a lot about intellectual integrity...... I'm just saying.

[Clancy]

Rather than reading Newsweek, why don;t you read them for yourself? What have you got to lose?

I did, thank you. To make the absurd claim they invalidate the top climatologists from over 100 nations is criminal. The perps should be in jail for the damage they've done.

[OrchardDweller]

Hey Clancy - tell ya what. Let's just see if it gets warmer or colder. It's of no importance to me what you believe.

[Clancy]

Hey Clancy - tell ya what. Let's just see if it gets warmer or colder. It's of no importance to me what you believe.

There are rewards for living life with integrity, you should try it sometime.