Al Gore & The Global Warming Agenda

[Valley Oak]

I absolutely agree, Jeff!

It's horrifying to see these out of hand liburuls like Gore and company committing acts of terrorism and sabotage just to further their un-American and unpatriotic agendas, such as the environment and other neo-Communist, government takeover policies.

I'm joining a militia soon to help keep the gummint in check. You can join a militia too! Just look at this map to contact one in your area:
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Edward

It's really amazing how far Al Gore will go in support of his agenda. I still haven't figured out exactly how he's making those glaciers melt. He's such a phony. He's probably up there with a magnifying glass.

-Jeff

[lynn]

Again...The debate, the agenda is about 'man-made' climate change...The pro 'AGW-theory' people in the media have been lying for yrs. now, saying the 'debate is over'...

It's never been over...I have read debates by scientists, and science teachers the whole time...

Many of the pro AGW theory have out and out LIED!...

Whatever changes we make...It needs to be because it betters our quality of life...and because we care about each other and our biodiversity...Not because we are so arrogant as to think we can actually change the earth's 'climate'...

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..."It's really amazing how far Al Gore will go in support of his agenda. I still haven't figured out exactly how he's making those glaciers melt. He's such a phony. He's probably up there with a magnifying glass."...

..."It's horrifying to see these out of hand liburuls like Gore and company committing acts of terrorism and sabotage just to further their un-American and unpatriotic agendas, such as the environment and other neo-Communist, government takeover policies.

I'm joining a militia soon to help keep the gummint in check. You can join a militia too! Just look at this map to contact one in your area:
SPLCenter.org: Hate Groups Map"...

[Clancy]

U.N. Report: Global Warming Man-Made

PARIS — Scientists from 113 countries issued a landmark report Friday saying they have little doubt global warming is caused by man, and predicting that hotter temperatures and rises in sea level will "continue for centuries" no matter how much humans control their pollution.

A top U.S. government scientist, Susan Solomon, said "there can be no question that the increase in greenhouse gases are dominated by human activities."

Environmental campaigners urged the United States and other industrial nations to significantly cut their emissions of greenhouse gases in response to the long-awaited report by Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
FOXNews.com - U.N. Report: Global Warming Man-Made, Basically Unstoppable - Science News | Science & Technology | Technology News

Again...The debate, the agenda is about 'man-made' climate change...The pro 'AGW-theory' people in the media have been lying for yrs. now, saying the 'debate is over'...

It's never been over...I have read debates by scientists, and science teachers the whole time...

Many of the pro AGW theory have out and out LIED!...

Whatever changes we make...It needs to be because it betters our quality of life...and because we care about each other and our biodiversity...Not because we are so arrogant as to think we can actually change the earth's 'climate'...

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..."It's really amazing how far Al Gore will go in support of his agenda. I still haven't figured out exactly how he's making those glaciers melt. He's such a phony. He's probably up there with a magnifying glass."...

..."It's horrifying to see these out of hand liburuls like Gore and company committing acts of terrorism and sabotage just to further their un-American and unpatriotic agendas, such as the environment and other neo-Communist, government takeover policies.

I'm joining a militia soon to help keep the gummint in check. You can join a militia too! Just look at this map to contact one in your area:
SPLCenter.org: Hate Groups Map"...

[geomancer]

[QUOTE=lynn;101494]Again...The debate, the agenda is about 'man-made' climate change...The pro 'AGW-theory' people in the media have been lying for yrs. now, saying the 'debate is over'...

It's never been over...I have read debates by scientists, and science teachers the whole time...

Many of the pro AGW theory have out and out LIED!...
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Goodness, them's harsh words: "LIED" - all caps no less. Stand back and give her room I say. Not sure where you found the lies, but it's very hard to get away with that for long in peer reviewed scientific journals. One can debate the relative merits of the scientific arguments, but a presumption of bad faith (lies) on the part of the scientific community makes debating you pointless (rather like arguing with my dining room table in Barney Frank's inimitable words).

BTW, I'm a professional geologist (state certified so I must be good) and I've been following the professional literature on this subject since the 1980's. There is so much inertia in the climate/economic system today that not only has the CO2 horse escaped from the barn, but the damn thing burned down years ago. The future for young people is well and truly fucked, and not in a good way.

Richard

[Hotspring 44]

I suspect that the debating is not about whether or not greenhouse gases exist, whether or not, they cause climate temperature changes, whether or not they are observing and using climate models; human caused, etc. no, I think the main greenhouse gases, or, for that matter, reflective particulates (man made or not) are “scientifically proven” to exist. I think the main debating between the scientists is about how much human caused greenhouse gases affect the climate change and not whether or not, they have any effect whatsoever.

“When Hansen went to testify again in 1989 an official in the White House Office of Management and Budget changed his testimony so as to negate the conclusion that global warming would cause the hydrologic cycle to intensify resulting in periods of excessive precipitation and severe drought.” (“The Bush White House complained to NASA. Also many scientists even some who privately agreed with Hansen accused him of stretching the facts. Science ran an article called "Hansen vs. the World on the Greenhouse Threat " and the business magazine Barron's quoted the climatologist Reid Bryson of the University of Wisconsin as calling Hansen's testimony a "phenomenal snow job"-an odd metaphor given that the subject was global warming. Faced with this criticism and serious personal problems (his father died and his wife had breast cancer though she survived) Hansen did not back down. Scientifically he was again ahead of his time-by seven years in this case. In 1995 the hundreds of scientists on the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change concluded that "the balance of evidence suggests that there is a discernible human influence on global climate.") Gleaned from audubonmagazine.org article: Audubon: Global Warming )

I think there have been exaggerations.
Are exaggerations lies? Or is it just over-emphasis on facts? What about the Bush administration ordering the actual meaning of Hanson’s Scientific papers to be changed? Is that lying? Is withholding certain facts lying? If somebody has enough power to kill the message or the messenger does that change the facts contained in the original message itself?

Whatever changes we make...It needs to be because it betters our quality of life...and because we care about each other and our biodiversity...Not because we are so arrogant as to think we can actually change the earth's 'climate'...

I almost agree with the gist of that statement except the fourth to the last word. (I think) The word should be control, not “change”. Does that make me as “arrogant” as the Bush Admin was for changing / omitting of certen statements on Hanson’s scientific document?

Humans can do (and have done) things that do / have affected the climate that could be legitimately referred to as affecting changes in localized and also global climate.
Example 1: clear-cutting Brazilian rain forests. Example 2: climate - definition of climate by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. 1. The meteorological conditions, including temperature, precipitation, and wind, that characteristically prevail in a particular region.
2. A region of the earth having particular meteorological conditions: lives in a cold climate.
3. A prevailing condition or set of attitudes in human affairs: a climate of unrest.
In the case of this discussion, I think 3 is the most consistently contributed to in large part by humans.

[handy]

Alan Schwartz has an interesting point here:

COWBOYS AND INDIANS

COWBOYS AND INDIANS

The Greenhouse Effect is guilt-edged Enviro-whiner pogrom. Anthropogenic carbon dioxide from burning fossil fuels increases its atmospheric concentration by 1.5 ppm/year from a 1997 level of 366 ppm. Colossal natural sources of carbon dioxide such as volcanism, sea floor spreading, partially defrosted bog permafost, and aerobic metabolism dwarfing societies' contributions are ignored. The problem is that folks who predict gloom and doom via massive parameterized (finagle-factored) computer simulations to many nugatory decimal places have misplaced some hundreds of gigagrams of elemental carbon.

We know almost to the ton how much coal, natural gas, and oil is burned annually. Empirical measurement plus carbon isotope ratios pin geological and biological additions. The carbon cycle spreadsheet does not balance. About 10% of human contribution vanishes without a trace. It is like losing the New York World Trade Center a few times each year (been there, done that, didn't like it), or a mountain.

The oceans could be dissolving it, but not nearly enough as reflected in pH and unbound carbon dioxide content. Assumed global warming pushes the tree line up and north. The added millionss of square miles of forests could not perform nearly enough photosynthesis. The only large scale sponge for carbon dioxide is chemical weathering of rock.

Carbon dioxide in rainwater reversibly hydrates to carbonic acid. Carbonic acid reacts with insoluble calcium carbonate (limestone, dolomite, marble) to form soluble calcium bicarbonate, washing down to the sea to be reformed as seashells, skeletons, and coral. All we need to solve our prickly planetary carbon dioxide disappearance problem is a tremendous, stupendous square mileage of exposed limestone and carbonate-containing sedimentary rock that has been ignored by geologists for the past 250 years.

The Tibetan Plateau will do nicely by both location and politics. As India crashes into Asia it pushes up and fragments an immense volume of what was ocean floor sediment. The average height of the Tibetan Plateau is three miles and rising. The seaward side is heir to incessant precipitation as the jet stream is kicked upside its head by the huge protrusion. The Alps and the Andes are also multiple mile-high sea sediment mountains bursting with reactive carbonates. The fun starts when we run the numbers.

Each gram of atmospheric elemental carbon washes out as 13.5 grams of solubilized calcium bicarbonate. The carbon mountain that goes missing each year erodes 13 mountains' worth of the Himalayas and the Tibetan Plateau (the rock is not explicitly missed on any given square foot - there is lots of real estate). Shaving down a cancerously growing counterweight wobbling Earths' rotation at the interface of India and Tibet is not a bad thing.

The continental plate that is India pushes inexorably northward into Asia. Chemical weathering and erosion continuously eat away at the formidable area of the growing three mile high pile of rock at the interface. Brobdingnagian mass so lofted could have nasty effects upon the Earth's rotation unless progressively pared. In the absence of anthropogenic carbon dioxide additions the atmosphere would be scrubbed of carbon dioxide. Agriculture and forests would be smacked hard as plants gasped for a dwindling concentration of carbon dioxide. Vast windows to ground infrared radiation would open in the atmosphere, plunging the entire planet into an intractable ice age.

How close are we to a terrestrial deep freeze? As a solid block of rock erodes it fragments and the surface area of its substance increases: A one meter cubed block has a surface area of six square meters. Fragment it into millimeter cubic sand and get 6000 square meters of reactive surface. We burn barely enough fossil fuel to keep pace with the geometrically expanding Tibetan hunger for carbonated rainwater. If we slacken even a trifle we cause Gaia to freeze solid as every green plant suffers horribly.

Enviro-whiner cowboys would have First World civilization gelded, branded, and put out to pasture. Third World slash and burn agriculture, cooking fires, and squalid human existence are celebrated as being ineffably ethnically cute, and contribute 23% of all carbon released into the atmosphere by man - 1.6 petagrams of the seven petagram annual total (Science 277(5330) 1205 (1997)). Eco-priests would thrust us into a 14th century miasma of de facto energy thrift, which amazingly would increase the problem manyfold. Let's slash and burn Kansas.

We are balanced upon a knife edge. As the Himalayas and the Tibetan Plateau are unstoppably dissected by weathering a vast extraction of atmospheric carbon dioxide explosively yawns open and breathes deeply. It does not exhale. Religion is notable for conjuring tragedy and then offering more of the same to cure it. The Greenhouse Effect is a multi-level marketing eco-scam. Do not buy into it.


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[Hotspring 44]

I have this to share with that:
There is a vast difference between putting forth a point of view, honestly held, and intentionally sowing the seeds of confusion. Free speech does not include the right to deceive. (Like Yelling fire in a crowded theater just because someone lights a cigarette.) Deception is not a point of view. And the right to disagree does not include a right to intentionally subvert the public awareness.
Although all public relations professionals are bound by a duty to not knowingly mislead the public, some have executed comprehensive campaigns of misinformation on behalf of industry clients on issues ranging from tobacco and asbestos to seat belts.
Lately, these fringe players have turned their efforts to creating confusion about climate change. This PR campaign could not be accomplished without the compliance of media as well as the assent and participation of leaders in government and business.

read more here
or here:
https://www.desmogblog.com/climate-c...enier-research

Alan Schwartz has an interesting point here:

COWBOYS AND INDIANS

The Greenhouse Effect is guilt-edged Enviro-whiner pogrom. ...

[lynn]

Clancy…Re: “U.N. Report: Global Warming Man-Made”… “Environmental campaigners urged the United States and other industrial nations to significantly cut their emissions of greenhouse gases in response to the long-awaited report by Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.”…

And I have been coming across some of the debates, and criticisms ever since…Scientists and science teachers who don’t think much of the IPCC…It being more of a political agenda body, than a scientific one…And critical of the AGW alarmist propaganda…(Again...The point being is that ‘the debate’ has never yet been over as far as I can tell...despite certain people constantly saying it has been.)…

Some examples:

…”More than 60 prominent German scientists have publicly declared their dissent from man-made global warming fears in an Open Letter to German Chancellor Angela Merkel. The more than 60 signers of the letter include several United Nations IPCC scientists.
The scientists declared that global warming has become a “pseudo religion” and they noted that rising CO2 has “had no measurable effect” on temperatures. The German scientists, also wrote that the “UN IPCC has lost its scientific credibility.””…
https://www.climatedepot.com/a/2282/BREAKING-More-than-60-German-Scientists-Dissent-Over-ManMade-Global-Warming-Claims-Call-Climate-Fears-Pseudo-Religion-Urge-Chancellor-to-reconsider-viewsDeveloping

”How the IPCC is not peer reviewed, but political.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd6B2iOZLt0&feature=related

“A respected botanist and the author of 35 books, he had presented around 400 programmes over the years and was appreciated by audiences for his boundless enthusiasm.
Yet for more than 10 years he has been out of the limelight, shunned by bosses at the BBC where he made his name, as well as fellow scientists and environmentalists.
His crime? Bellamy says he doesn’t believe in man-made global warming.”
https://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/69623

“A French scientist’s temperature data show results different from the official climate science. Why was he stonewalled? Climate Research Unit emails detail efforts to deny access to global temperature data.”…
https://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/11/26/skewed-science.aspx

“The science is settled? Oh no it isn’t.”…
https://members.iinet.net.au/~glrmc/4%20-%20AGW%20Balancing%20Views%20-%20Z6.rtf

Peter Steinberg (Letters, August 18) says: The vast majority of specialists in the field say we have a major [global warming] problem, that it is caused by humans, and it is probably getting
worse". This is untrue.
https://members.iinet.net.au/~glrmc/2009%2008-19%20RMC%20letter%20re%20Steinberg%20in%20SMH.pdf

…”Believing is easier than calculus”…”The debate in my mind, as someone who has studied climate for decades is certainly not over”…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs7t475ZVXQ

…”we haven’t had a good argument, Al Gore and many people say that the scientific question is over, it hasn’t been debated yet”…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-NybQwA2hY&feature=channel

…”I would very much disagree with you…It’s arrogance to feel that you can write code for all the complex climate signal and integrate that hundreds of thousands of times in the future…climate models can’t do it”…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW-wkCtdLZM

…”It is also very important to note that global climate models are unable to produce an output that is verifiable. In other words the output can neither be proved nor disproved. What grounds do those who use these models have to refute observations made by others to the effect that there is no believable evidence of the postulated dramatic adverse changes produced by the models?”…
https://anhonestclimatedebate.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/climate-change-–-the-clash-of-theories-by-professor-will-alexander/

“Climate change, like Lysenkoism, is much easier to understand than the complexities of real science. This appeals to the public, and also to politicians and other influential people, who can talk as if they understand it. If questioned about details, they simply refer back to the IPCC reports.”…
https://www.lavoisier.com.au/articles/greenhouse-science/method/ollier2008-28.php

Part 1: Skeptic side of the RCRC Climate Debate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AJ9-fwSMWY

Global Warming Debate : Real World Observation Vs Climate Models (Part 1/9)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ml9zs9aZQ

Global Warming: Natural or Manmade?
https://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-natural-or-manmade/

Global Warming Swindle Debate Pt1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIjGynF4qkE

Pachauri is a railway engineer and enthusiastic amateur cricketer who happens to chair the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change but he is not a climate scientist, nor has he ever done any research in the field. He might be a better bowler but I'm pretty sure my mother could take him in atmospheric physics (she doesn't bat too badly, either).
https://www.junkscience.org/

“Why is this so important? It really invalidates climate models since they are allegedly driven by the global energy budget and how energy moves through the system. If we can not account for what is happening in the climate system we can not model it nor is there any basis for climate model "projections", "predictions" or whatever you want to call the fairytales released by Gore, the IPCC or anyone else.”…
https://www.junkscience.org/

Flashback to Bali: UN tactics to silence dissent… “Color lazer printers produced about 7000 copies of missing hot spot graphs, recent temperature trends, copies of scientific papers, and lists of eminent professors who are disturbed by the IPCC science. Plenty of jaws dropped when full color science was on display.”…
https://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/flashback-to-bali-un-tactics-to-silence-dissent/

Wayne Clough, Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution, describes what fossils can reveal about ancient periods of global warming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1ZdH4r8Tss&feature=PlayList&p=0ACEC6D445E7DD7C&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=49

“Alternative energy, less reliance on foreign energy sources, cleaner cars, less pollution are all worthy objectives, but controlling CO2 is not something we need to do, it is a waste of resources that will not accomplish anything.”…
https://www.mlive.com/opinion/flint/index.ssf/2009/01/its_time_to_pray_for_global_wa.html

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Geomancer…“Goodness, them's harsh words: "LIED" - all caps no less”…

Yes…That’s what I wrote, “LIED”…

It’s one thing to be honest, and state you think those who disagree with you are wrong…It’s another to state that ‘the debate is over’…

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Good little video to clarify the different pov’s…
https://tvnz.co.nz/close-up/climate-change-confusion-you-decide-3241785/video

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“I love global warming. I think they use to call it SUMMER.”…

[OrchardDweller]

Al Gore Confronted (video) November 24th, 2009




December 2009:

Gore cancels Copenhagen climate conference event
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ce-copenhagen/

Armed Response to 'Climategate' question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUtzMBfDrpI

Inconvenient Question to Al Gore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fooYtalS9Gc

Hide the Decline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAlMomLvu_4

The First Global Revolution: A Report by the Council of the Club of Rome (1991)
https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=8RNKHGbzUuAC


"It would seem that humans need a common motivation, namely a common adversary, to organize and act together in the vacuum; such a motivation must be found to bring the divided nations together to face an outside enemy, either a real one or else one invented for the purpose."

"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill."

“Sacrilegious though this may sound, democracy is no longer well suited for the tasks ahead. The complexity and the technical nature of many of today’s problems do not always allow elected representatives to make competent decisions at the right time.”







Al Gore is a member of the Club of Rome.




Al Gore is also a member of the CFR.
Others associated with the CFR include the Clintons, the Obamas, and John McCain.





Dick Cheney was the director of the CFR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbnpN07J_zg


Here is a quote from a recent article by the current CFR president Richard Haas

"Globalisation thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves, because they cannot insulate themselves from what goes on elsewhere. Sovereignty is no longer a sanctuary."
https://www.cfr.org/publication/9903...alisation.html


These elitist groups' goals are to establish an unelected one world government (i.e. to rule the world) through the UN by manipulation of the masses (war on terror, global warming), and to reduce world population to "manageable" levels (80-90% reduction). This will be attempted through war, social unrest and race wars (research La Raza, Aztlan, Mecha), famine, "natural" disasters (research HAARP), man-made diseases and bioweapons (expect more chemtrails), and vaccines. Are you being told by their controlled media and academia that humanity is the enemy and that there are too many of us? Good, you'll be more accepting of their genocide as their plans are carried out. Or would you rather let nature handle overpopulation if it exists, instead of Al Gore and his elitist buddies?


In addition to being a "globalist", Al Gore also appears to be a protégé of the late oil tycoon and known communist operative Armand Hammer, CEO of Occidental Petroleum Corporation.






Hammer supported Gore's father, Senator Al Gore Sr of Tennessee, with business partnerships prior to his entering politics. Financial support continued throughout his political career and a job was provided following his retirement from politics. The great influence of Hammer on the Gore family has sparked speculation that Al Gore Jr. is named after Armand (Gore Jr.'s middle name is only listed as "A." on his birth certificate). Here are some articles from 2000 on the subject:
https://findarticles.com/p/articles/...16/ai_61361634
https://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/a...TICLE_ID=14917



Gore Sr on the left next to Hammer, with little Al Jr at far right


You might also look into William Jefferson Clinton and his admitted mentor, Carroll Quigley
https://www.vloggingtheapocalypse.co...key=143a57db17

as well as the following groups:
CFR, Trilateral Commission, The Bilderberg Group, Skull & Bones

(btw Obama's handlers include Zbigniew Brzezinski - Trilateral Commission, Austan Goolsbee - Skull & Bones, and James A. Johnson - Bilderberg. Change??? Obama is a puppet and as establishment as it gets).




Wake up people. Our liberty and sovereignty are at stake. The longer it takes you to wake up to this, the smaller our chance is of defeating them. They are counting on your ignorance to succeed.


ENDGAME - Blueprint for Global Enslavement
https://video.google.com/videoplay?d...29053600562261

lecture by filmmaker
https://video.google.com/videoplay?d...73366067443695