Swine/Bird Flu Info

[d-cat]

WARNING: VERY SHOCKING INFORMATION ON THIS THREAD

First of all, I'd like to say I'm very sorry to have to bring you this information. Some of it will be very shocking, probably even to those who are aware of the dangers of vaccines. If you feel you cannot handle very shocking news, please be forewarned.

It is my hope that those who are concerned about this can use this info to warn others. I will group related subjects by separate posts so that one can refer others to (or reply to/add to) specific subjects.

This may take a few days for me to complete, so please refrain from posting until the all initial postings have been completed. Thanks.

[d-cat]

Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus
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Baxter Sent Bird Flu Virus to European Labs by Error
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Baxter Pharmaceutical Mixed Avian Flu with Flu Vaccine
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Virus mix-up by lab could have resulted in pandemic
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Vaccines as Biological Weapons? Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18 Countries
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Flu Vaccines Deliberately Contaminated
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‘Accidental’ Contamination Of Vaccine With Live Avian Flu Virus Virtually Impossible
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[d-cat]

Baxter could have pandemic flu vaccine in July
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Baxter: Swine flu vaccine due in July
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Baxter To Develop Swine Flu Vaccine Despite Bird Flu Scandal
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[d-cat]

Homeless people die after bird flu vaccine trial in Poland
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[d-cat]

Legal immunity set for swine flu vaccine makers
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US government gives Baxter, Novartis legal immunity in advance for any injury and death caused by H1N1 vaccine this autumn
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[d-cat]

Medical Director Admits That This Strain of Swine Flu Was Cultured In A Laboratory (video)
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New flu strain is a genetic mix
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US Air Force Study Suggests 2009 Influenza Pandemic in 1996
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Baxter Files Swine Flu Vaccine Patent a Year Ahead of Outbreak
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Border Patrol ordered NOT to wear masks to protect from Mexican Swine flu (ABC News video)
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[Zeno Swijtink]

This is not information but misinformation.

It's all untraceable, from fringe rumor mills that copy and paste the same crab over and over, like in the story about the "200 Polish vagrants."

Not the careful journalism we need.

WARNING: VERY SHOCKING INFORMATION ON THIS THREAD

First of all, I'd like to say I'm very sorry to have to bring you this information. Some of it will be very shocking, probably even to those who are aware of the dangers of vaccines. If you feel you cannot handle very shocking news, please be forewarned.

It is my hope that those who are concerned about this subject can use this info to warn others. I will group related subjects by separate posts so that one can refer others to (or reply to/add to) specific subjects.

This may take a few days for me to complete, so please refrain from posting until the initial postings have been completed. Thanks.

[d-cat]

This is not information but misinformation.

It's all untraceable, from fringe rumor mills that copy and paste the same crab over and over, like in the story about the "200 Polish vagrants."

Not the careful journalism we need.

Zeno Swijtink

Please do not post until all the info has been posted as requested. And you might also withhold judgement until all the info is up. There is still much more to come.

I believe you're from The Netherlands? I was told by a Dutch friend that there is a lot of info available on Dutch online newspapers - it's even in the mainstream media over there. (update: he just emailed me these. don't miss the comments, he said)
https://anonym.to/?https://www.teleg...plegers__.html
https://anonym.to/?https://www.vkblo...wang_in_Europa!!!!


Don't you find it odd that there was no coverage here in the US on the Baxter story? Click the links on post #2. It's foreign mainstream media. Nothing from CNN or other corporate media sources over here. It was only reported in the alternative ("fringe" as you call it) press. Didn't we have an exchange once about the views of Galileo, Copernicus, and Columbus being "fringe"?

Please kindly delete your post. If you need to comment now, start another thread. Thanks

and click this for a MSM story on Poland in the London Telegraph (which had been already posted):
https://anonym.to/?https://www.teleg...in-Poland.html


Fun Fact: Queen Beatrix of The Netherlands, daughter of Prince Bernhard (who is reputed to have been a Nazi), founder of the Bilderberg Group, now heads the secretive organization.


the upper half of this post will be deleted after Zeno kindly deletes his post


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Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder
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Interview with Jane Burgermeister (the journalist filing charges) with Dr. Rebecca Carley 7/3/2009 (audio)
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This Video Could Save Your Life Part 1 of 8 with Dr. Carley, Jane Burgermeister, Dr. Patricia Jordan 7/12/2009
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Very informative. You can find the other segments to the right under "Related Videos"


Interview with Dr. Rebecca Carley with Alex Jones (video) 2/5/2009
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[d-cat]

The Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918


...In the two years that this scourge ravaged the earth, a fifth of the world's population was infected. The flu was most deadly for people ages 20 to 40. This pattern of morbidity was unusual for influenza which is usually a killer of the elderly and young children. It infected 28% of all Americans. An estimated 675,000 Americans died of influenza during the pandemic, ten times as many as in the world war. Of the U.S. soldiers who died in Europe, half of them fell to the influenza virus and not to the enemy. An estimated 43,000 servicemen mobilized for WWI died of influenza (Crosby). 1918 would go down as unforgettable year of suffering and death...
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The Spanish Flu had an odd characteristic: it seemed to preferentially target young healthy people. Usually influenza is lethal only to the old or immune-compromised. Yet this virus was spectacularly deadly to young men and women in their 20's and 30's. This is one of the key reasons why this virus became so interesting to biological warfare researchers of later decades.
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I WAS AN ON-THE-SPOT OBSERVER OF THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

Written about 30 years ago by Eleanor McBean. These excerpts are from chapter two of her book, Vaccination Condemned By Competent Doctors, "the largest and most informative book on the subject of vaccinations ever written in America." It contains data collected from medical records, army reports, and findings from researchers all over the world.

"Those who had refused the shots escaped the flu. My family had refused all the vaccinations so we remained well all the time. We knew from the health teachings of Graham, Trail, Tilden and others, that people cannot contaminate the body with poisons without causing disease."

"There was seven times more disease among the vaccinated soldiers than among the unvaccinated civilians, and the diseases were those they had been vaccinated against. One soldier who had returned from overseas in 1912 told me that the army hospitals were filled with cases of infantile paralysis and he wondered why grown men should have an infant disease. Now, we know that paralysis is a common after-effect of vaccine poisoning. Those at home didn’t get the paralysis until after the world-wide vaccination campaign in 1918."

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[d-cat]

Most Mexico fatal flu victims aged between 25-45
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Swine Flu Symptoms Worse in Mexico than U.S.
...Nearly all those who died in Mexico were between 20 and 40 years old, and they died of severe pneumonia from a flu-like illness believed caused by a unique swine flu virus...
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New flu resembles feared 1918 virus
The new H1N1 influenza virus bears a disturbing resemblance to the virus strain that caused the 1918 flu pandemic, with a greater ability to infect the lungs than common seasonal flu viruses...
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Alaskan Victim of 1918 Flu Yields Sample of Killer Virus (1998)
A specimen of the influenza virus that killed 21 million people in the 1918 worldwide epidemic has been recovered from the frozen remains of a flu victim buried in Alaska...
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Scientists Uncover Clues To Flu Epidemic of 1918 (1999)
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"Bird Flu" Similar to Deadly 1918 Flu, Gene Study Finds (2005)
Scientists have reconstructed the genetic code of the deadly 1918 "Spanish flu... AFIP [Armed Forces Institute of Pathology] preserved tissue samples from 1918 flu victims. Those 87-year-old samples—and others from a victim who was buried in, and preserved by, Alaskan permafrost—yielded tiny fragments of genetic material that were used to piece together the virus's genetic coding signature... it is currently contained at Atlanta, Georgia's Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) under extremely strict security...
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Scientists isolate genes that made 1918 flu lethal (2008)

...Conventional flu viruses replicate mainly in the upper respiratory tract: the mouth, nose and throat. The 1918 virus replicates in the upper respiratory tract, but also in the lungs...

...substituting single genes from the 1918 virus onto the template of a much more benign contemporary virus yielded agents that could only replicate in the upper respiratory tract. One exception, however, included a complex of three genes that, acting in concert with another key gene, allowed the virus to efficiently colonize lung cells and make RNA polymerase, a protein necessary for the virus to reproduce...

...In the late 1990s, scientists were able to recover genes from the 1918 virus by looking in the preserved lung tissue of some of the pandemic's victims. Using the relic genes, Kawaoka's group was able to generate viruses that carry different combinations of the 1918 virus and modern seasonal influenza virus...

...When tested, most of the hybrid viruses only infected the nasal passages of ferrets and didn't cause pneumonia. But one did infect the lungs, and it carried the RNA polymerase genes from the 1918 virus that allowed the virus to make the key step of synthesizing its proteins...
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[d-cat]

to be continued...

In the meantime, give this a look please:

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“The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it” - Albert Einstein

[d-cat]

Swine Flu 1976
segment from 60 Minutes

Swine Flu 1976 & Propaganda

[d-cat]

The UN's Agenda 21



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New World Order Depopulation Plans Exposed (8 min)
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NWO's agenda - Eugenics And Depopulation (10 min)
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Agenda 21 For Dummies (10 min)
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Speaking of Agenda 21 (110 min)

Michael Shaw of Freedom 21 Santa Cruz ( Freedom Advocates)
and Dr. Stanley Monteith of Radio Liberty (Radio Liberty Home Page )
explain United Nations Agenda 21

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link to Agenda 21 text
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The Georgia Guidestones

some additional NWO related info in posts 1 & 2 here

[d-cat]

The Population Reduction Agenda For Dummies (article)
The elite agenda for global population control is not a “conspiracy theory,” it is on the record and documented.
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Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation
America's richest people meet to discuss ways of tackling a 'disastrous' environmental, social and industrial threat
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UK population must fall to 30m
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[d-cat]

WHO declares flu pandemic (video)
Rockefeller's group of unelected officials declare fake Phase 6 pandemic, activating Patriot Act's forced vaccination policy
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World Health Organization Facts & Rumors
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[d-cat]

Obama's Mad Science Adviser
Compulsory abortion and sterilization aren't youthful indiscretions
When it comes to having past views that should frighten every American citizen, Ezekiel Emanuel has nothing on the president's "chief science adviser," John P. Holdren. The combination of Mr. Holdren with Dr. Emanuel should make the public seriously concerned with this administration's moral compass concerning care for the old and weak...
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John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet
(with scans of Holdren's book Ecoscience)
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Obama Science Czar John Holdren With Paul Ehrlich Promote Depopulation Using Vaccinations For Mass Sterilization
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Obama Science Advisor Called For “Planetary Regime” To Enforce Totalitarian Population Control Measures
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Obama Science Czar’s Plan To Sterilize Population Through Water Supply Already Happening
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Holdren Forced To Respond To Controversy Over Totalitarian Population Control Proposals
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Obama Picks Bilderberger for Health Secretary
It is also fair to say that any health care agenda Obama puts forward will be vetted by the elite who attend secretive meetings initially organized by Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, a confirmed Nazi...
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Documentary on the Bilderberg Group and Eugenics:
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Ezekiel Emanuel confronted about depopulation policy (video)
(Obama's special adviser for health care, & Chief of Staff Raum Emanuel's brother)
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[d-cat]

Swine flu vaccine fears as first jabs available before full details of clinical safety trials are known
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Swine flu vaccine rushed through safety checks
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Swine flu vaccine strategy 'risky'
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'Dangers' of the fast-track swine flu vaccine
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Infectious disease risk in swine flu jabs
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Does virus vaccine increase the risk of cancer?
The swine flu vaccine has been hit by new cancer fears after a German health expert gave a shock warning about its safety.
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Diseased African Monkeys Used to Make Swine Flu Vaccines; Private Military Contractor Holds Key Patents
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[d-cat]

International Swine Flu Conference brochure (pdf)
Mass Fatality Management Planning
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highly priced to keep public out, according to Dr. Sherri Tenpenny
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[d-cat]

Mass graves planned for swine flu outbreak
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Mass graves could be dug for autumn bout of swine flu
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Graves plan for swine flu pandemic
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PLANS for mass graves have been drawn up to cope with a second wave of swine flu this Autumn
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Fear, Intimidation & Media Disinformation: U.K Government is Planning Mass Graves in Case of H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic
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Inside source reveals FEMA & DHS preparing for mass graves and martial law near Chicago
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Plans for Mass Graves Confirmed: Government Surveying Cemetery Readiness for Flu Outbreak
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Flu Pandemic: Mass Graves and Martial Law
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[d-cat]

to be continued...


if you're wondering why there isn't much press over here on all this, have a look:

Freedom of Press by Ranking
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[pbrinton]

So are you saying that for the government to be making contingency plans for a pandemic is a bad thing? Even if there is only an outside chance of so many deaths that the regular system is overwhelmed, they have an absolute duty to be prepared ahead of time.

Most of the links were from the UK (and displayed a notable lack of paranoia) but at least one of the ones from the US mentioned that the government wanted to know the locations and state of preparedness of police stations, power ststions, hospitals and the like. This was presented as some kind of fascist takeover attempt. Personally (and I am probably about as left-wing a person as you could find) I would be very angry if some kind of major disaster hit and nobody knew the nature or location of needed resources. Like it or not we live in a world where we have by our own activities made virtually inevitable some kind of large-scale disaster, from huge fires caused by our policies regarding brush and undergrowth to pandemics caused by our similar shortsighted approach to disease prevention. Perhaps you prefer the Bush doctrine of appointing political hacks to jobs requiring planning and preparation, resulting in such triumphs of disaster handling as hurricane Katrina?

Do you suggest that municipalities should regard the state and federal governments as enemies that must be at all costs kept from knowing where the police stations and hospitals are? This is paranoid scare-mongering (sadly a feature of the both extremes of the political spectrum.)

Now if you want something real to fear, let's talk about the corporate takeover of the election system through the legalized bribery system that we call campaign contributions. Now there is something worth fighting. But if there is likely to be an out of control fire, I want the disaster planners to know where the fire extinguishers are kept.

Patrick Brinton

Mass graves planned for swine flu outbreak
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Mass graves could be dug for autumn bout of swine flu
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Graves plan for swine flu pandemic
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PLANS for mass graves have been drawn up to cope with a second wave of swine flu this Autumn
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Fear, Intimidation & Media Disinformation: U.K Government is Planning Mass Graves in Case of H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic
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Inside source reveals FEMA & DHS preparing for mass graves and martial law near Chicago
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Plans for Mass Graves Confirmed: Government Surveying Cemetery Readiness for Flu Outbreak
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Flu Pandemic: Mass Graves and Martial Law
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[Dram]

This response is not to condone authoritative measures but in a similar vein look at the Chinese response to the era of opium trade.

In looking at the world through the meetings with people along the way, I do not see the grasp of reality to turn the tide in the inevitable conclusion of diminishing resources and rising populations. In my own hopes I can only see the solution of mass population reduction coming from geological, viral or climatic sources.

Does a government wait in hopes of some futuristic moment to hopefully solve things or rely on its individuals who mostly become active and aware when something immediately impacts then...

So what is there to do?

Whatever you condone for the lower orders will eventually be done to you...

Does anyone have a grief over Americas incarceration rate and the population of " monsters " set aside to be forgotten? Isn't it convenient to think of that population as being so much beneath concern and void of human qualities?

Whats so wonderful about humans that the world couldn't afford to have fewer of them?

So are you saying that for the government to be making contingency plans for a pandemic is a bad thing? Even if there is only an outside chance of so many deaths that the regular system is overwhelmed, they have an absolute duty to be prepared ahead of time.

Most of the links were from the UK (and displayed a notable lack of paranoia) but at least one of the ones from the US mentioned that the government wanted to know the locations and state of preparedness of police stations, power ststions, hospitals and the like. This was presented as some kind of fascist takeover attempt. Personally (and I am probably about as left-wing a person as you could find) I would be very angry if some kind of major disaster hit and nobody knew the nature or location of needed resources. Like it or not we live in a world where we have by our own activities made virtually inevitable some kind of large-scale disaster, from huge fires caused by our policies regarding brush and undergrowth to pandemics caused by our similar shortsighted approach to disease prevention. Perhaps you prefer the Bush doctrine of appointing political hacks to jobs requiring planning and preparation, resulting in such triumphs of disaster handling as hurricane Katrina?

Do you suggest that municipalities should regard the state and federal governments as enemies that must be at all costs kept from knowing where the police stations and hospitals are? This is paranoid scare-mongering (sadly a feature of the both extremes of the political spectrum.)

Now if you want something real to fear, let's talk about the corporate takeover of the election system through the legalized bribery system that we call campaign contributions. Now there is something worth fighting. But if there is likely to be an out of control fire, I want the disaster planners to know where the fire extinguishers are kept.

Patrick Brinton

[d-cat]

So are you saying that for the government to be making contingency plans for a pandemic is a bad thing?

No. I'm only reporting that they are doing it.

Most of the links were from the UK

I posted articles that are in English (except the ones for Zeno).

Perhaps you prefer the Bush doctrine of appointing political hacks to jobs requiring planning and preparation, resulting in such triumphs of disaster handling as hurricane Katrina?

No, I don't.

Do you suggest that municipalities should regard the state and federal governments as enemies that must be at all costs kept from knowing where the police stations and hospitals are?

Again, no.

Now if you want something real to fear, let's talk about the corporate takeover of the election system through the legalized bribery system that we call campaign contributions. Now there is something worth fighting.

I have discussed that before, including posting a link to the documentary 'Hacking Democracy'. It's a very important issue. However, it is not the topic of this thread.

In the first post, I had requested that people hold off on commenting until I get all the info posted. The reason for this is that I wish for the info to be easily accessible to those interested in this very important subject. I'm putting a lot of hard work into this, and I'm trying to do it in a clear, concise manner. I believe that time is of the essence, and responding to posts right now is a distraction for me. If you would kindly delete you post, I will delete this. Feel free to start your own thread if you'd like. Thanks.

[d-cat]

this will have to be continued again. I was hoping to get some more info up in the time I had this morning. I'll try to get back later today...

[Clancy]

WARNING: VERY SHOCKING INFORMATION ON THIS THREAD...

I'm not sure what to make of the swine flu hysteria. On average, 36,000 Americans die of influenza each year.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/diseas...ted_deaths.htm

As of August 13, only 1,799 people in the entire world had died from H1N1, and the southern hemisphere is now at the height of the flu season. And to top it off, the rate of new H1N1 infections is now decreasing in most countries.
CDC 2009 H1N1 Flu | 2009 H1N1 Flu: International Situation Update

Yes, influenza is lethal, but this strain appears relatively benign. If H1N1 was engineered to cause an apocalyptic pandemic, the engineers seem to have failed.

[pbrinton]

No. I'm only reporting that they are doing it.

...and...

In the first post, I had requested that people hold off on commenting until I get all the info posted. The reason for this is that I wish for the info to be easily accessible to those interested in this very important subject. I'm putting a lot of hard work into this, and I'm trying to do it in a clear, concise manner. I believe that time is of the essence, and responding to posts right now is a distraction for me. If you would kindly delete you post, I will delete this. Feel free to start your own thread if you'd like. Thanks.

You are being disingenuous here. You are not "only reporting". Your first post speaks of "very shocking information" and throughout the thread you make it clear that you are reporting things you disapprove of.

It is my impression that WaccoTalk is for discussion, so your attempt to stifle any discussion of what you are posting seems a little out of place. If you want to stop people commenting, create a web page for your links, and then post a single link to that page. That way you will not have to use your precious time responding to (shock! horror!) contrary opinions. I will not remove my post, and I will continue to post comments as I think fit.

Patrick Brinton