45% of Sebastopol Budget dedicated to Police Services

[rossmen]

All charges dismissed, he and her were slapped with felonies after rough treatment despite being compliant. The daughters video plus Floyd's killing got da ravich to back down. He will get a county settlement for getting tased and chewed on unnecessarily.

Have you heard of the incident on April 4, 2020, when Mr. Anglero-Wyrick, an Afro-American man, was detained at his home in Graton by County Sheriffs, who then released a K-9 dog on him, for 2 minutes. He received dog bite wounds in his leg. Mr Anglero-Wyrick was arrested for parole violation & resisting arrest.

I'd think, based on his wounds, there will be a lawsuit. It seems that the use of the dog was excessive. There are reports of this on FB.

I was at my home in Graton that day. I thought there was a massive bust underway, as a helicopter flew round and around Graton, for 10-15 minutes.

[Jude Iam]

yes AND all fines, all monies paid out to victims of police come out of public coffers rather than from the individual cop themselves, as far as i know; courtesy of police unions. they're brutal and are FINALLY CAUGHT AND PUNISHED, WE PAY, THEY DON'T. jude

All charges dismissed, ... He will get a county settlement for getting tased and chewed on unnecessarily.

[barfly]

Exactly. That along with qualified immunity making it almost impossible to prosecute even for heinous crimes makes accountability zero and encourages this behavior among those disposed to do it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified_immunity

yes AND all fines, all monies paid out to victims of police come out of public coffers rather than from the individual cop themselves, as far as i know; courtesy of police unions. they're brutal and are FINALLY CAUGHT AND PUNISHED, WE PAY, THEY DON'T. jude

[gaiasophia]

There are calls now, and perhaps been passed elsewhere, that these paymentc come from the law enforcement officer's retirement account.

[american dream]

There are calls now, and perhaps been passed elsewhere, that these paymentc come from the law enforcement officer's retirement account.

That's exactly what should have happened all along!!!

[geomancer]

Given the multimillion dollar size of many judgements, the retirement funds of all officers in the force should be pooled while paying awards. This would provide a strong economic incentive for fellow officers to rein in the excesses of the brutalists among them.

There are calls now, and perhaps been passed elsewhere, that these paymentc come from the law enforcement officer's retirement account.

[american dream]

Very true. Lousy metaphor in this case, but hit them where it apparently would hurt the most.

[geomancer]

I'm no lawyer, but I suspect that making the retirement funds liable in police brutality cases would need a state law. The net result would be that each police retirement fund would have to purchase liability insurance. This insurance would not be cheap, and any punitive judgement would cause the rate to go up. The rate of increase would accelerate with each event. The 2nd derivative gonna whup your ass (= rate of change of the rate of change).

Given the multimillion dollar size of many judgements, the retirement funds of all officers in the force should be pooled while paying awards. This would provide a strong economic incentive for fellow officers to rein in the excesses of the brutalists among them.

[geomancer]

Another practice that think should be drug testing every time time a police officer unholsters hir weapon. Some instances of police brutality are so unhinged that amphetamines and steroids may be involved. Get rid of the tweekers before they kill someone. .

[Jude Iam]

So what's happened with this 45% budget allotment - anything?
Reallocated to preventive programs? Mental health pros? school counselors?
Anyone followed up?

[jitterbug]

This item is on the agenda at the next city council meeting 7/21: https://ci.sebastopol.ca.us/getattachment/Meeting-Event/City-Council/2020/City-Council-Meeting-July-21,-2020/Agenda-Item-Number-11-Next-Steps-Community-Policing-Scope-of-Work.pdf.aspx

The full agenda with zoom connection details here: https://ci.sebastopol.ca.us/Meeting-...-July-21,-2020

So what's happened with this 45% budget allotment - anything?
Reallocated to preventive programs? Mental health pros? school counselors?
Anyone followed up?

[Lilith Rogers]

Yes, it certainly needs to be discussed--and changed immediately. Ridiculous that in a peaceful small town like ours so much money is going to the police when the Community and Senior Center, Parks,library, social services, etc. could use it for greater benefit to us all. Let's change this!!

This item is on the agenda at the next city council meeting 7/21: https://ci.sebastopol.ca.us/getattachment/Meeting-Event/City-Council/2020/City-Council-Meeting-July-21,-2020/Agenda-Item-Number-11-Next-Steps-Community-Policing-Scope-of-Work.pdf.aspx

The full agenda with zoom connection details here: https://ci.sebastopol.ca.us/Meeting-...-July-21,-2020

[rossmen]

While policing is being discussed through a council/staff/community input model likely little will change. There are a number of reasons for this. First the spd is popular and trusted in the community to maintain the economic segregation and safety of a small elderly town with the whitest demographic in the county. The current examination is fueled by liberal angst stimulated by current events, nothing local like questioning the last police shooting of an undocumented immigrant.

Second the review is being facilitated by Jerry threet, town resident and former director of iolero. While he didn't get on well with the sheriff department, especially the current sheriff essick, his approach to police reform has always been more money for better training and oversight.

It's too bad because this is a moment where real change is possible. The current drivers of crime, poverty, addiction, mental illness, will be more present in this town. Police are not the answer.

So what's happened with this 45% budget allotment - anything?
Reallocated to preventive programs? Mental health pros? school counselors?
Anyone followed up?

[redbutton]

Yes, it certainly needs to be discussed--and changed immediately. Ridiculous that in a peaceful small town like ours so much money is going to the police when the Community and Senior Center, Parks,library, social services, etc. could use it for greater benefit to us all. Let's change this!!

Give more to the community center senior center and library. I really miss the library and senior center