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    Re: Open Committee Toward Solutions On the Homeless Crisis

    A campaign, how does it start, where does it start, what does it look like?

    First thing to note is that the only population available with the time to do this is the homeless population.
    Ever pondered the notion of "herding cats"?

    One of the problems of letting someone occupy a piece of land, room, etc by someone who has had no personal space besides their backpack or vehicle to call home is the immediate territorial imperative that takes place which is a problem even to those with a lengthy history of sensible decisions.

    Its why for a certain population the mobile solution is not only the most immediately provisioning solution but a re-socializing solution as one learns the ways of being a crew-member, it also provides the means of relocating away from those who do not choose to participate as well as creating its own publicity and bringing attention to another way of solving problems.

    Vocational Academy
    à la carte I emphasize the cart, can you imagine the media effect of 100 people being funded for rakes arriving in a home depot parking lot with their assembly putting the question to Trump, We've got our rakes, where do we go? With interesting cottage industry ready as underbrush is cleared and to be used for fuel.
    In Sebastopol is a place called Chimera, in Santa Rosa is a place called 180 Studios, these are Makers spaces, its a movement and full of fun

    The Carrot that's needed to start a Pied Piper tour is a makers studio on wheels as part of the campaign.

    The Pied Piper, contracted to get the rats out of town but as it turned out after the rats left town they turned back into humans
    It seems that for the new dispensation any Nimby that votes no must provide a yes vote to an alternative or their no doesn't count.


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    Anyone who has ever flown over the North Coast Range in California, Oregon, or Washington State in a small plane has seen and can appreciate just how much of the terrain of the Pacific Northwest is empty of human habitation....
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    Forty Acres Divided into Nine Parcels


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    4.444 - Acre Parcels for Nuclear Families


    Here is my suggestion as how the former "Public Domain" may be reasonably allotted to the currently un-landed masses: families and single persons of the able-bodied and willing, working, dispossessed of America.

    There are thirty-six square miles in every "Township" lying on a square grid on the map. There are six hundred and forty (640) acres in every square mile - otherwise known as a "Section." There are one hundred and sixty (160) acres in every Quarter-Section. -And there are forty acres (40) in every quarter of those "Quarter-Sections."

    Each parcel of forty acres can be divided by nine into parcels of 4.444 acres, with a 4.444 acre "commons" in the center. Thus, Eight nuclear families may form a Commune to share 40 Acres, with a Commons.

    = Thus, there may be as many as one hundred and forty-four (144) 4.444 -acre homesteads per every Square mile of turf. First come; first served. Bring your Kraal with you =

    Q. How many Square miles of timber-lands in the Pacific Northwest have been burned over in the recent fires?

    Q.
    Who ( =which corporations=) own(s) those thousands upon thousands of acres?

    ...This needs to be looked into...

    What I am proposing, is that the Timber-lands be made open to Homesteading. Every group of friends may bloc with their companions to press forward to make this happen. Naturally, it would be fitting and proper for folks of like affinity & like sentiments to occupy each forty acre parcel.

    These may be considered "Communes." Each nuclear family -or- single person, willing to settle in the country should be allotted a 4.444 acre parcel. In order for this to happen, the Homestead Act must be
    re-drafted & re-instituted, in accordance with the current Situation.

    Down the road from these Homesteads of the "working poor" should be established mini-homesteads for the "Homeless" who are not able to fend for themselves - the ones who have fallen through the cracks in the current "System" in Amerika.

    Some of these folks would do well if they were offered, free-of-charge, something close to half an acre, with a 'tiny house' built from rammed earth blocks, with a fir roof & rammed earth tiles on the roof.

    Those who are able to work, should be required to build their own 9x12 houses, and assist the less able-bodied and more dysfunctional in the construction of their tiny houses, out of rammed earth blocks. They should get points ( i.e. "money") for the work that is concluded; {not by the hour, but by the results.}

    The "working poor" who live up the road - in the 4.444 -acre "homesteads" - may assist in setting up the quarters for the Homeless. It is all do-able. The technology exists to make it happen.

    All that is needed are Alaskan (&/or "mobile-dimensional") mills, to make timbers out of the burned firs from the late fires - the firs that are still standing - & equipment to manufacture earth-blocks from the earth itself. Rammed earth blocks are easily created; only three (3) ingredients are necessary:

    1) Earth.
    2) Lime.
    3) Water.

    Truckloads of Lime may be shipped from Kansas and Missouri, where there is an abundance of Lime. It is all do-able. Folks with Green degrees from Humboldt State, who are adept at Perma-culture can find their life-work and a permanent home in the Process. They can become the mentors of the former veterans and more able-bodied among the "Homeless."

    After the majority of the burned timber that is still standing has been harvested and milled, the hills may be planted with orchards of fruit-trees. Orchards that are tended, are far less susceptible to "wild-fires" than timber-lands that are not properly maintained.

    What did John Lennon say, shortly before he was murdered? "There are no problems, only solutions."

    If the Democrat Party wishes to embody this in their 2020 Platform =OR= If the current Democrat -controlled Congress wishes to move forward towards this as a "Solution" to the Homeless Crisis, they may. I'm not going to hold my breath - but they may.

    If, on the other hand, Donald Trump and Doctor Ben Carson wish to redeem themselves as worthy heirs of the Republican Party Platform of 1860, they are welcome to take up the gauntlet, and run with this proposal.

    Otherwise, I suggest, that the common people Organize and force the hands of those who up-hold the vested interests of the plutocrats who have stolen the Land from those who dwell upon it.

    = A G A I N =

    We can not rely on either the Federal government =OR= the State governments to "fix" the Homeless situation in America. They must be goaded into action by the People - the middle class householders who still have homes, and the working poor; families who can handle the responsibility of a 4.444 acre parcel on former timber land.

    The Homeless should be allowed at least the opportunity of a small, 9 x 12, two story, earth-rammed block house with a fir ceiling, and a
    parcel of .49377777778 of an acre {that's almost half an acre} in planned, supportive, self-sufficient, agricultural communes, in the former timber-lands.


    [ TO BE CONT'D...]

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    Re: Open Committee Toward Solutions On the Homeless Crisis

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    Just because the Feds closed the Public Lands to occupation by humankind in 1976, does not absolve them of the responsibility of taking action today, when Homelessness has grown endemic and has become a national disaster & disgrace.
    Why do you insist on bringing the Feds into a State problem? Why do you dwell on history to substantiate a plan of yours that hasn't been laid out? Wouldn't it be better for the readership see concisely
    what you are proposing? Btw, CA has the money and the land to handle the problem.
    http://publiclands.org/Get-Books-and...p?plicstate=CA
    No one is forcing you to be a "captive audience" Jefferson. No one. If you lack the patience to wait for the ultimate package I am preparing at the end of my series of lessons, you can leave the station anytime you wish to. The train shall arrive on time eventually without you.
    Yes, I will be stepping off the slow boat to China. Your laboured retelling of history is really not productive. We just wanted your IDEAS and not a history lesson.
    I would appreciate it, also if you would not drop useless memes like the caveman one above. They add nothing to the dialog. Could you please delete it? I hesitate to call you a troll, yet your behavior as a kibitzer is borderline trolling.

    I am shocked that you would limit free speech, used to make a point. The meme was not useless, but it looks like it went over your head. And your use of "labeling" shows a intellectual tenderness that is disappointing.


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    Homeless Community on Forty Acres


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    .49377777778 - Acre
    Parcels for the Homeless


    I did the Math, and the numbers work out on the Forty-Acre grid, if the Homeless are allotted .49377777778 acres apiece. This is almost half an acre.

    Thus, each settlement - or commune - for the Homeless resembles the 4.444 -acre allotments of the Homestead parcels up the road - the settlements / communities that should properly be made available for nuclear families and those who can handle a parcel of 4.444 acres.

    Dividing forty acres by nine you get nine 4.444 acre parcels. As before, in the midst of the forty acres there should be a Commons of 4.444 Acres. As in the Eight-parcel / eight family Homesteads up the road, each one of these Communities for the Homeless should be established with the intention of them ultimately becoming Self-sufficient. As I said before: "...planned, supportive, self-sufficient, semi-agricultural communes..."

    Likewise, in the midst of these nine 4.444 acre parcels - which in the case of the indigent homeless, are divided again by nine - there is another Commons, specific for each "cell of eight." Thus there are Eight "cells of eight" on each forty-acre Parcel that is so subdivided in order to provide a Home for the Homeless. This makes a potential total of sixty-four parcels each with a "tiny house" for the currently downtrodden indigent poor on every parcel of forty acres.


    [ TO BE CONT'D...]


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    This is a Collection of Tools & Resources


    Here in good faith I offer what I hope may be the effective Playbook on how the Citizens may combine to Alleviate & End the Homeless Situation in America.

    I am confident that the Legal Leverage exists to wrest many of the Titles to the Timber-lands away from the Timber Corporations that obtained the timber-lands of the West in the late nineteenth into the early twentieth century, through an elaborate System of Fraud, that is laid bare in the book, “Looters of the Public Domain” [1908] by one Stephen A. Douglas Puter, the self-proclaimed "King of the Oregon Land-Fraud Ring."

    Here is a link towards obtaining a hard copy of the book Looters of the Public Domain - essential reading for any radical lawyer who is sincerely concerned about finding a Just Solution for the problem of Homelessness in America:

    =AND= Here is a link to the free pdf of the book “Looters of the Public Domain

    The Democrat Party of the past several decades has not shown any “leadership” in the realm of solving the problem of Homelessness – but then, neither has the
    Republican Party shown any serious "leadership" on this score. And it was under two Republican Party administrations - those of Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan - that the Homestead Act of 1862 was ultimately ended.

    The original Republican Party Platform - of 1860 – showed that Party to be the advocates of “Free Soil” – which meant, as well as being the party of anti-Slavery, the party of Free Homesteads in the West. Here is a link to the Republican Party Platform of 1860.

    It was the Party of Abraham Lincoln that passed the Homestead Act of 1862 - which was the fulfillment of Plank 13 of the Republican Party Platform of 1860. Here is a link to that document; the Homestead Act of 1862.

    It is my confirmed belief, and also the hope of my heart, that the Solution to the Problem of Homelessness - the problem that President Donald Trump and Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Doctor Ben Carter, have so recently expressed concern about - can be ended, or at least seriously “healed” by the re-drafting, and the re-institution of the Homestead Act, in conformity & in adjustment with the current Situation.

    There is no statute of limitations on Fraud. – And it was through an elaborate System of Fraud that the lands of the Public Domain were stolen by the Timber Barons of the late nineteenth century. Perhaps the will exists within the radical legal community to find the legal leverage to take on the timber corporations who “own” and are sitting, like the proverbial “dog in the manger” upon the Lands, that by right should be occupied by the Commons.

    No Statute of Limitations on Fraud...

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    Whatever Happened to the Wilderness and the Frontier?

    “There was nothing but land; not a country at all,
    but the material out of which countries are made”.

    —Willa Cather
    My Antonia, 1918


    When the first European colonists came to North America, it was a vast, verdant Continent that we would not recognize today. Relative to what it was like in pre- Columbian times, it has become a Wasteland.

    So what happened? We all know a little about the original Thirteen Colonies, and how they were established – We are all taught some of that in our schools. We know that the Thirteen Colonies united to fight a Revolutionary War against Mother England.

    Left out of those lessons in the school text-books, is the story of how, in the wake of the Pontiac Rebellion in 1763 at the end of the French & Indian War, the Bank of England, the Board of Trade, & the Crown and the Company blocked to sign the Proclamation of 1763 with the Iroquois Confederacy.

    The Brits and the Iroquois had economic interests in common - to perpetuate the Fur Trade - and to keep the “wild colonial boys” east of the Allegheny/Appalachian ridge, so as not to deplete the raw materials of the Fur Trade - which was a big deal in Europe in that era.

    The Brits had gone into the French & Indian War with their eyes open, and also fully intending to open up the Ohio River Valley to settlement after they had wrested New France from the French. But the Pontiac Rebellion changed all that, and it became expedient to agree with the Iroquois Confederacy that the Colonials were to be prevented from settling on the other side of the Mountains. This is the reason for the “Proclamation of 1763

    It was a Proclamation with a Promise to the Indians that was impossible for Whitehall to keep. The interests of the Merchants in London were definitely at odds with the land-hunger of the second, third, & fourth sons
    of the landed “Americans” in the Colonies - who became the Rebels in the Revolution. The young turks who made up the Continental Army were definitely more interested in acquiring Land for themselves than they were concerned about keeping the Fir Merchants in London in beaver pelts. Thus was lit the “long fuse” that led to the Revolution.

    After Daniel Boone saw what was on the other side of the Cumberland Gap, it was all over. The Redcoats who were posted in the forts west of the Appalachians - the ones who received the fir pelts that the Indian hunters brought them - were not able to stem the stream of the poor Scots-Irish folks pouring into Kentucky and Tennessee. It became a River around 1774 - two years before the Declaration of Independence.

    The Story of what happened on the Frontier {which, at the time, was Kentucky & Tennessee} from the
    time of the "French & Indian War" {aka the Seven Years War } (1756-1763) until about 1825, is an important Chapter in American History. It is one that most Americans know very little about. As Dylan said, “Look out kid, they keep it all hid.” They like it that way. We are most pliable when we are kept as ignorant as possible and know next to nothing about our own History.

    We are not taught in our public schools that the Royal Proclamation of 1763 was just as important as the Stamp Act of 1765 in fomenting the discontent that led up to the Revolution. We are not taught about why Kentucky was called the “dark and bloody ground” during the Revolution {1775-1783}.

    There were no major battles there; just a long bloody war of attrition between the English & their Indian allies against the Colonials {mostly Scots-Irish poor folks} who were willing to Occupy & fight for the Land.

    Here are a few good Books on the Subject:

    The Crucible of War: The Seven Years War, and the Fate of Empire in British North America, 1754-1766

    The Long Fuse: How England Lost the American Colonies, 1760-1785

    The Trans-Appalachian Frontier: People, Societies, and Institutions, 1775 – 1850

    How the West Was Lost: The Transformation of Kentucky from Daniel Boone to Henry Clay

    A Way through the Wilderness: The Natchez Trace and the Civilization of the Southern Frontier

    How the Indians Lost Their Land: Law and Power on the Frontier

    Conquest by Law: How the Discovery of America Dispossessed Indigenous Peoples of their Lands

    There are many lessons that may be gleaned from that pile of books. By 1825, the “Frontier” had crossed the Mississippi River. Daniel Boone himself – who had title to several claims around Boonesborough & Lexington, Kentucky lost all of his property in a series of
    Court litigation. So he moved on. He ended his days in Missouri. Later, in the nineteenth century, some of his descendants settled up in Mendocino County.

    The same thing happened to most of the Scots-Irish poor folk whom Daniel Boone had led into Kentucky after he first set eyes on the Cumberlands in 1769.
    They had come into the territory West of the Appalachians in Violation of a Royal Proclamation. They fought Redcoats and Redskins to the death in order to settle there. They had cleared the land in a nearly impenetrable forest, composed of trees many of which were thousands of years old.

    They had built houses from the timber of ancient trees they had felled with much labor; and spent much effort in clearing fields and making Farms. They had essentially wiped out the Buffalos of the Southeast by the Summer of 1782 -Yet they were to lose their houses and lands in Court, after the Revolution ended in 1783, because they could not contend with the Lawyers of the Rich, who became the Gentry in the nascent horse-culture in the Bluegrass region of Kentucky in the wake of the Revolution.

    It seems that the Lawyers who were employed by the Gentry who moved into the Lexington basin after the Revolution - in 1783 - were able to eventually gobble up just about all of the Lands that the Scots-Irish poor folks had been able to wrest from the Wilderness. So the poor folks crossed over into Arkansas & Missouri, along about 1825.

    This seems to be the consistent pattern throughout much of post-Revolutionary American History: Poor, un-landed folks were used to break the ground in the West, then dispossessed and forced to find - and Pioneer - another home further West...

    This pattern & process is described very well in the {very important} book, The New Nation: A History of the United States During the Confederation 1781 - 1789, by Merrill Jensen, New York, Alfred A, Knopf, 1950

    Check out the links ! zey are footnotes; some very visual

    [TO BE CONT’D…]

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    Whatever Happened to the Wilderness and the Frontier?


    = Part Two =

    During the 'Era of Good Feelings' {1817-1825} the amity within America was pretty much general. Relations between the Americanized people of European descent and the Native Americans was also at a high level of stability and mutual acceptance. In 1819 the United States of America gobbled up Florida in a land grab that was part imperialism / part retrieval of lost property. But, in general, Peace returned, after the end of the momentous & bloody Napoleonic Wars {which included, on our side of the pond, the War of 1812}.

    One branch of the Cherokees in the Southeast willingly took on the ways of the White man: They acquired an Alphabet, found Jesus, went to church in little brown churches, and sent their children to learn about European history in little white school houses. Cherokee men put on britches, and worked on their own farms.

    Out on the Prairie, in the lands West of the Mississippi River, the lands that Jefferson had “purchased” from Napoleon, the Natives roamed freely. They wore their own garb, and still practiced their old ways. Many Americans admired the Indians of the Prairie. They were regarded in Rousseauvian terms, as “noble savages.”

    All of that was to change after the rise of Andrew Jackson, and the birth of the Democrat Party of 1828 – the Party of Andrew Jackson - the Party that morphed out of the pro-Slavery faction of the old Democratic-Republican Party of Thomas Jefferson and James Madison.

    Although there were “populist” tendencies in Jacksonian Democracy, there was also a dark side to it. The hero of the Battle of New Orleans in 1815 was a Slave owner, and a prolific Indian killer. Andy Jackson was also joined at the hip with the Real Estate Interests that wanted the South-east to be Indian-free – not to be confused with judenrein.

    So, after much to-do and soul-searching among the more conscientious white folks who opposed Jackson’s Indian Policy – and there was considerable opposition - Jackson had his way; he was President after all, and the Cherokees, Choctaws, Seminoles, Creeks and Chickasaws were forcibly removed from their homes, and made to undergo the Trail of Tears.

    A Treaty was signed, solemnly, and the Indian Nations were promised the lands of the Indian Territory in the West {the present State of Oklahoma} in perpetuity, for as long as the grass shall grow…

    as above, the footnotes provide visuals

    [TO BE CONT’D…]





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    Please Dr. History, stop with the lessons. What do they have to do with the topic YOU started? Action is needed, not off topic meandering.

    https://sonomacounty.ca.gov/CDC/Homeless-Services/Homeless-Count/
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    Whatever Happened to the Wilderness and the Frontier?

    = Part Three =





    If it may be said of Andrew Jackson, that he had a “dark side” it may also be said of Abraham Lincoln – a far greater and more complex individual - that he also had a dark side.

    The Republican Party, going back to 1856, when it rose from the ruins of the Whig Party, always contained within itself a fundamental contradiction: Simultaneously, it was the Party of Northern Capitalists, Industrialists, and Railroad Barons (in other words, of Wall Street) but it was also the party of radical “Western Progressives,” who tended to be “Free-Soilers” and Abolitionists.

    Ultimately, the Wall Street faction within the Republican Party prevailed over the Progressive faction… It is ironic that the Republican Party Platform of 1860 promoted the Homestead Act, yet it was the Republican administrations of Gerald Ford, and Ronald Reagan under which the Homestead Act finally was terminated.

    Hard on the heals of the Homestead Act of 1862, came the Pacific Railway Act of 1862, which gave away millions of acres of the Public Domain to the Railroad corporations. It seems clear that the provisions of the Pacific Railway Act themselves violated the terms of the Homestead Act, which immediately preceded it.

    During the period that Mark Twain called the “Gilded Age” in the late nineteenth century, the Homestead Act of 1862 was violated through a system of institutional fraud under which millions of acres of the public domain were fraudulently acquired by the timber barons.

    It seems clear that many of the families whose names appear in the roster of the “Commissioners of the Pacific Railroad Corporation” and the families of those who acquired title by fraud, to the remaining lands of the former “Public Domain” by the System of fraud described in the Book, Looters of the Public Domain are some of the same families.

    Theodore Roosevelt, who quashed the class-action suits against these timber barons as one of his last acts as President, in 1908 was one of the Republican presidents whose decisive actions, in closing the American Frontier to Homesteading by the commons led to the current “Crisis of Homelessness” in America today.

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    Cyberanvil wrote:
    Quote Please Dr. History, stop with the lessons. What do they have to do with the topic YOU started? Action is needed, not off topic meandering.
    In the course of these "lessons" Jeferson Donley, I am answering the Big Question "Whatever Happened to the Wilderness and The Frontier ?"

    I am establishing the Facts about where it went...

    How that the Wild West, which was "purchased" with gold by the Federal government, paid to the French (1803) and Mexican governments (1848), and gotten by those governments through some erroneous European notion of divine right of kings, Papal dispensations, &/or legal mumbo jumbo about the "Right of Discovery" wound up in the hands of:

    A] The Railroad Corporations,
    B] The Lumber Corporations, & after generations of logging, deforestation & looting, sold to:
    C] The BLM, a (sub rosa) Delaware Corporation, and
    D] The "Nature Conservancy" - a Crown
    Corporation (City of London) -OR-
    E] The several States themselves...

    Yes, the Land is there. The poor do not have to be dying of exposure to the elements on the streets of the cities.

    I agree with you, cyberanvil, that the State of California could solve the problem of Homelessness in California, without any Federal involvement at all. For the state has available lands to do =OR= Allow others (private parties, or humanitarian groups) to do what I have suggested (Above) in posts numbers 32, 34, & 35.

    But I question why you take the Trump party line, & put the whole responsibility for the "Crisis" on some unnamed "Ideology" which Tucker Carlson subtly implies is peculiar to the Democrat Party, when the larger picture of Federal malfeasance & long-term advocacy for Corporate ownership of the vast bulk of the continent has led to the current "Crisis" - and it has been a "bi-partisan policy" to say the least.


    Let us consider the Question : "What is the justifying "Ideology" for the "Nature Conservancy" =AND/OR= the "Bureau of Land Management" ?
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    Thad, you wrote:
    Quote A campaign, how does it start, where does it start, what does it look like?
    If I tried your patience somewhat in my digression into the History of how the continent was gobbled up by the Rich, bear with me...

    I shall answer your Question now, Thad. There must be an organized Program. The Homeless are not in a position to organize this, but they may certainly participate - indeed, they must be active participants...

    The Homestead Act must be re-written in conformity with the current situation,
    so that eight nuclear families may share forty acres (See schema, post #32) -And that as many as sixty-four currently Homeless single people may share forty Acres with Commons, (See schema, post #34)

    This program of this movement must be promoted, become known, and gain traction...

    Then the State and Federal Governments must be pressured to move forward on this Program until it happens.

    The city fathers of the towns & cities in the United States really do not want to have the homeless camping on the streets of their cities. Neither do the bourgeoisie. I don't really blame them.

    It seems to me that the only just solution - and the opportunity for the classical "elegant solution" inasmuch as the burned over districts may be replanted (Watch this Video) - is for the Homeless & the able-bodied & willing "working poor, who are currently renters, to be allowed to Occupy homes & lands in the burned-over districts in the semi-Wilderness of the Pacific Northwest.

    The formerly "green & rolling hills of West Virginia" & eastern Kentucky, that have been strip-mined & made barren may also be repopulated & regenerated in like manner. The barrens of Western Kansas - which are relatively flat - would be perfect situations for the subdivision of lands as I have suggested in posts #32 & #34, where the homeless of the Midwest & of Denver may also find pasture.

    If there is a Public Will to make this happen - and it is in the Interest of Everyone - it should be allowed to happen...

    And It can happen - Unless there really is something to the "conspiracy theory" that the intention of "UN_Agenda_21" is to drive humans out of rural lands, & settle them in cities. So far, the local governments are not doing so well in providing pasture for the multitudes of homeless in the cities, however...

    Activists who are zealous to obtain homesteads themselves (4.444-acre parcels) must get on board and fight the good fight.

    The fact that there are two (2) schedules of Homesteads to be made available in this Plan should mitigate the qualms that land-owners have about giving away a "free home" to "bums" or "ne'er-do-wells"...
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    But I question why you take the Trump party line, & put the whole responsibility for the "Crisis" on some unnamed "Ideology" which Tucker Carlson subtly implies is peculiar to the Democrat Party, when the larger picture of Federal malfeasance & long-term advocacy for Corporate ownership of the vast bulk of the continent has led to the current "Crisis" - and it has been a "bi-partisan policy" to say the least.
    And I question you as to why you are building a case where the premise is "bad Americans". I question why Gov. Moonbeam and Gov. Gavin can tout CA as having the world's 5th largest economy and having a budget surplus. Why Progressives feel the need to raise gas taxes to the 1st or 2nd in the Nation. CA has the money, push your representatives to spend some of it on the homeless problem and stop building Bullet and SMART trains.

    On with the history lesson. Forgive me if I go dark for a bit.
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    cyberanvil wrote:
    Quote And I question you as to why you are building a case where the premise is "bad Americans". I question why Gov. Moonbeam and Gov. Gavin can tout CA as having the world's 5th largest economy and having a budget surplus. Why Progressives feel the need to raise gas taxes to the 1st or 2nd in the Nation. CA has the money, push your representatives to spend some of it on the homeless problem and stop building Bullet and SMART trains.

    The point of the history lesson was to give an account of what happened to the vast interior of the North American Continent & to bring us up to this point in time where there are hundreds of thousands of homeless souls, and millions & millions of uninhabited acres that could be put to better use than to be the property of corporations.

    It is my contention that the problem of Homelessness - and a host of other problems as well - can only be solved by Land Reform. The Homestead Act must be re-instituted - with adjustments - taking into account the fact that no one needs forty acres these days. What the future settlers in the burned-out districts of the Pacific Northwest need is the opportunity to experience Community and to practice Mutual Aid.

    The problem is both a State and a Federal Issue, Jefferson. There are homeless in every state; not just in California. There are also an increasing number of Homeless in Canada, these days. The "problem" of all the asylum seekers along the Mexican Border is also a function of people who have been made homeless and rootless in their own countries South of the Border. In every case, the "problem" can be solved by Land Reform - by allowing Pasture on which the Homeless may dwell.

    By the way, your link, to the "Public Lands Interpretive Association" is a good resource, Jefferson. Thanks for the tip.

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    And I question you as to why you are building a case where the premise is "bad Americans".
    why is the right so afraid of self-examination? When you're building a case, there's no THE premise. His point isn't to target the policy makers. But I think I understand what you mean - because the case he's building does imply criticism, that becomes the interesting squirrel. It's too hard to accept the conclusion, or even focus on it, when that might imply accepting the criticism as valid.

    This is a good example of why people think the right is obsessed with their role as victims. They throw that charge at "the left". The key difference is that a group asking for redress of wrongs is focused not on their status as victims, but on ways to address it. The right just whines about how unfair it all is.
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    One Township = Thirty-Six {36} Square Miles


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    Here is how I envision a rural township (36 square miles) of rugged, burned-out terrain being lightly inhabited in the near future by humans.{hopefully} Each square within the block of 36 is what is known as a "Section" - or one square mile of turf. Again, there are six hundred and forty
    (640) acres in every Section.

    The lettered examples: A, B, C, D, are one-hundred sixty-acre parcels made up of four parcels of forty acres. These 160-acre parcels - which may be thought of as villages - may be more frequent throughout the wilderness than I have depicted in this diagram.

    The incidence of how many villages may be settled in the wilderness is determined by the availability of ground water for human consumption & agriculture and the relative flatness & suitability for building & habitation on the specific, local terrain.

    Some of the forty acre parcels should be subdivided by nine, as described in post #32, making eight nuclear homesteads for single folks & couples to be made available as Homestead grants to the working, able-bodied, & un-landed souls of generation X.

    About three times as many of the parcels of forty acres should be subdivided by 81, in order to create Communes for the Homeless, as described in post # 34, Above. Again, every village should ideally be established with the intention of it being self-sufficient, and self-sustaining. When wisely designed, human systems may run uphill.

    There should be one forty-acre parcel of eight 4.444 acre parcels, with a central commons adjacent to every three parcels of forty acres dedicated to the Homeless. There should be social workers (retired is o.k.) living on parcels of 4.444 acres able to work among the Homeless camps.

    There must also be carpenters and builders, and gardeners & gentle souls with all manner of Green degrees & homestead & earth-skills from Humboldt State & similar institutions throughout the Pacific Northwest. Such people exist. At the present they are scattered like sheep on a thousand hills. They could do well in such a situation & with such purpose. It does take a Village.


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    Just Consider This:


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    a very informative book)

    The Bureau of Land Management was created in 1946, by merging the General Land Office and The U.S. Grazing Service. It was created as a preliminary corollary & adjunct to the Hoover Commission Report of 1947, which advised the creation of the National Security Agency, and the Central Intelligence Agency. At this point in time {2019} the BLM has “oversight over 247.3 million acres (1,001,000 km 2). It governs one eighth of the country's landmass.” - (Wikipedia)

    I
    n 1976, thirty years after the creation of the BLM, the Homestead Act of 1862 was terminated in the lower forty-eight states. In 1987, the Homestead Act of 1862 ended in Alaska. Since then, the “oversight” over the formerly “Public Lands” has basically served the corporate interests of logging, mining, and grazing concerns – in general, corporate entities. Where is the human & social element in this equation?

    If Tucker Carlson can pontificate about some unnamed “ideology” that has led to the Homeless crisis that we face in America today, perhaps we might do well to ponder the nature of the “ideology” that has determined that almost two hundred and fifty {250 *} million acres of the former “Public Domain” have been closed to Homesteading, or Occupation by human beings…???

    {* That's one eighth of the Land Mass of the Continental United States }

    -Especially when there is a crying need for homes for the younger generations, and for the hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Homeless souls in America today. There are no accurate statistics on their actual numbers…

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    One Hundred & Sixty Acre Intentional Community


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    Four Parcels of Forty Acres, with Commons (C)
    = One Quarter Section

    This then is the sum of an ideal, self-sufficient agricultural village in the hinterlands of the North American continent. It need not be in the shape of a square, as I have shown in post #45, above.

    What factors should determine the sites of these communities?

    A] The relative arability and levelness of the terrain.
    B] The presence of ground water to sustain the humans, animals & agriculture.
    C] The availability & accessibility of the land.

    Obviously, these qualifying conditions eliminate much of the two hundred and forty-seven million (247,000,000) acres of the Land owned by the BLM. But there are doubtless, still, hundreds of thousands of acres that are arable, accessible, relatively level & where water may be coaxed out of the earth. It is fitting that the land should have sufficient grade that a backhoe may dig into appropriate locations to obtain earth for the rammed-earth blocks.

    Being in the quasi-wilderness, there should be a limit on the number of vehicles that can travel to the trunk highways, & town. Every parcel of forty acres should have one Backhoe, one Cinva Earth Ram, and one Mobile dimensional mill, and trained and competent operators who can teach others how to use this potentially dangerous equipment. This is the modern equivalent of “forty acres and a mule.” All of the building materials can be extracted –with care- from the materials
    at hand: earth & timber. There is no necessity for electrical or sewer hook-ups, when solar panels and out-houses do suffice. The outhouses may be of the movable kind and orchards may be planted over time.

    Commons are an important feature of this Design: Building the Community Centers should be a priority. Every able-bodied person who receives a Homestead should be expected to build his/her own house –with the help of the Community– even as the Community Center is being built. Everyone should also be expected to work in the garden & in the tending of farm animals. In the deep country, if you don’t grow your own food, you can’t eat. Adjacent to the village, there will also be work: planting trees, and working with Nature to restore Nature from the ravages of fires &/Or mining.

    This design for a rural village may be accomplished and implemented with or without the assistance of the Federal or State governments =OR= the Homestead Act being in place. Philanthropists, also, may step up as benefactors to buy land to set up pilot projects based on this model of a planned community. This model may also be employed by any group of eight couples who wish to pool their resources to purchase forty to one hundred and sixty acres and subdivide it as shown in this diagram. If they wish to take on Homeless souls they may be selective, and pick and chose from the destitute that fill the streets of our cities.
    The point is for every able-bodied person to become self-sufficient, and not only that, but ultimately productive in society at large.

    I am hoping that folks in our government[s] are listening, and will see the wisdom in my proposals, and take note that a safe and “clean” place to provide low-budget housing for the indigent and homeless is in the burned out districts of the Pacific Northwest, the barrens of Western Kansas, and the strip-mined regions of Kentucky and West Virginia. There, they may not only find shelter; they may also be put to work in planting trees, terra-forming, and assisting Nature in her process of recovery.

    I hope that
    Dr. Ben Carson, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, will find it more compassionate and reasonable in his heart to follow this path rather than the broad road of "crackdown" & "internment" with regards to the homeless: 'Internment Camps for the Homeless'
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    An Open, Public Appeal to President Donald Trump and
    Housing & Urban Development Secretary, Dr. Ben Carson:


    Your Administration has shown signs and made statements to the effect that you are intent on finally doing something concrete about the current Crisis of Homelessness in the United States.

    Since the Crisis has reached enormous proportions coast to coast, even in Washington D.C., west Baltimore, and other cities of the Megalopolis on the eastern seaboard, I ask that you take time to consider the Spirit of the 1860 Republican Party Platform, the platform upon which Abraham Lincoln ran. For it stated:

    “...That we protest against any sale or alienation to others of the public lands held by actual settlers, and against any view of the free homestead policy which regards the settlers as paupers or suppliants for public bounty, and we demand the passage by congress of which has already passed the house...”

    Yes, Mister President, and Secretary Carson, the Republican Party was once the Party of Free Soil.

    I ask that you ponder those words and consider the fact that the Bureau of Land Management is, at present, sitting on "alienated land." - On over two hundred and forty-five million [245,000,000] acres of "alienated land" in twelve western states. In California alone there are approximately seventeen and a half million [17,500,000] acres of land owned by the BLM.

    These lands were once known as the "Public Domain." During the period between 1862 and 1976, they were open to Homesteading by freeborn American Citizens - and to newly emancipated former Slaves also, Mr. Secretary. While many of the two hundred and forty-five million acres acres are not suitable for habitation and development into intentional communities and villages, many of them are. With a sustained program of deep drilling, down to the level of the Primary Water, even the desert can be made to bloom and become a suitable habitat for Humanity.

    So I ask you Mr President, and you, Mr. Secretary, If You, Mister President, can propose a Seven Hundred and Fifty Billion [$750,000,000,000] dollar Budget request for “National Security” for the fiscal year 2020, perhaps you might take the time to consider what a small fraction of that vast allocation could do in alleviating the Housing and Homeless Crisis in our Nation.

    Mr. President, You ran as a Populist. In 2016, you appealed to disaffected supporters of Bernie Sanders. If you are actually on the side of the People, show us. Make some moves. Surely there is a more humane way to deal with the Housing Crisis and the tangential and related Homeless Crisis than warehousing the homeless in former Correctional facilities and FEMA Camps.

    Sincerely,
    Mark Walter Evans,`
    Freeborn North American
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    An Open, Public Appeal to President Donald Trump and
    Housing & Urban Development Secretary, Dr. Ben Carson:
    Rather than doing a Newsom shuffle, it's time to lay the blame on the people who created it. Newsom touts California's economic strength, so there must be money available. Newsom has seen the problem in close proximity and for a considerable time. He's of the party that claims to be of the working (and homeless) people. It's time to put the screws to whatever politician or Group that doesn't develop and act on resolving this crisis. The best observations are made by those closest to the problem. Time for Gavin to step up or step out.

    environmentalprogress.org: Unwilling To Address Homelessness Crisis

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    Quote Rather than doing a Newsom shuffle, it's time to lay the blame on the people who created it.
    Are you implying, Jefferson Donley, that I am pitch-hitting for governor Newsom? Because, I assure you, I am completely non-partisan. And “the people who created it” [the homeless crisis] are all dead. This thing has been a long time in coming.

    We can blame Teddy Roosevelt, who as a favor to his buddy George Weyerhaeuser quashed the class action lawsuits in 1908 against the Timber barons - lawsuits which intended to subsume back into the jurisdiction of the Land Office the millions of acres of the Public Domain that the Timber Corporations had fraudulently stolen through an elaborate system of fraud.

    We may blame Ronald Reagan, who upon becoming governor of California in 1966 immediately closed down the halfway houses. And who later, as president, defunded and slashed many, many social programs. Yes, we may assign a certain amount of the blame for the current crisis on things that Ronald Reagan did, both as governor and as president.

    We may attribute a certain amount of responsibility for the current crisis on the 94th Congress whose members did not read the fine print and passed the Federal Land Policy and Management Act (FLPMA) of 1976 – the Act that effectively ended Homesteading in the lower 48 states.

    But neither governor Gavin Newsom nor president Donald Trump exactly “created” the current crisis. –And, although both of them may have exacerbated it, so far neither of them has done anything concrete or tangible to alleviate the hemorrhaging of the social fabric that we are witnessing locally on the Joe Rodota Trail.

    Quote Newsom touts California's economic strength, so there must be money available. Newsom has seen the problem in close proximity and for a considerable time. He's of the party that claims to be of the working (and homeless) people.
    I agree that Gavin Newsom should do more. One thing the State could do is buy some of the burned-out timber lands from the timber corporations along the Mendocino coast, and help establish the sorts of intentional communities that I have detailed in this thread.

    Quote It's time to put the screws to whatever politician or Group that doesn't develop and act on resolving this crisis.
    I fully agree with that. But I disagree with the right-wing libertarian ideology of Grover Norquist – which is exhibited in the attitude of Secretary Carson when he says that resolving the homeless crisis is not the responsibility of the Federal Government. Because it is.

    Solving the Crisis in Homelessness in America should be both a State and Federal matter. And only the Federal government has the authority to open up the Bureau of Land Management lands to Homesteading once more.

    Most of the seventeen and a half million [17,5000,000] acres of BLM land in California are in South-eastern California;
    not too terribly far from Los Angeles, where there are many, many homeless souls on the streets. - And out on the desert, where it is relatively warm in the Winter.

    President Harry Truman had a small sign on his desk in the Oval Office that famously proclaimed “The Buck Stops Here.” One may fault the man for any number of things, but I respect that aspect of him. Newsom and Trump are both passing the buck. Where will it end? I am calling on them both to do the right thing.


    Bottom Line is this: No one should be Homeless
    in the US. It is a matter of National Security.


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    Are you implying, Jefferson Donley, that I am pitch-hitting for governor Newsom? Because, I assure you, I am completely non-partisan. And “the people who created it” [the homeless crisis] are all dead. This thing has been a long time in coming.
    I agree that Gavin Newsom should do more. One thing the State could do is buy some of the burned-out timber lands from the timber corporations along the Mendocino coast, and help establish the sorts of intentional communities that I have detailed in this thread.
    Solving the Crisis in Homelessness in America should be both a State and Federal matter. And only the Federal government has the authority to open up the Bureau of Land Management lands to Homesteading once more.

    Response to Mark Evans, aka “Mayacaman”

    Your postings have been, in many cases, long and varied. They have been entertaining and informative to an extent. To be kind and generous, I salute your vigor. But in my heart I feel that you’re following a different path than I. Your solutions and criticisms always seem to fall the same way. Bias, perhaps.

    Your historical retelling of history in order to justify land giveaways is especially mirth some. Do you really think “communes” in the wilderness would be the answer? Asking "townies" to establish themselves in the wilderness, really?

    Two people sleeping in the gutter is troubling. And what of 200 people sleeping in the woods? When did the great explosion begin? Was it really decades ago? Is that when the pee, poop and needles appeared in the streets of SF?

    Keep posting, keep expounding, but so far you are not resonating with me.
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    Mark Evans, aka “Mayacaman” wrote

    Solving the Crisis in Homelessness in America should be both a State and Federal matter. And only the Federal government has the authority to open up the Bureau of Land Management lands to Homesteading once more.

    Most of the seventeen and a half million [17,5000,000] acres of BLM land in California are in South-eastern California; not too terribly far from Los Angeles, where there are many, many homeless souls on the streets.
    - And out on the desert, where it is relatively warm in the Winter.
    ---------------------------------------------

    Perhaps the BLM could stop leasing land to the Burning Man Project and turn the land over to more useful purpose. Just a thought, what do you think?.
    Btw, the desert is far from warm at night, but I suppose solar would solve that.
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    cyberanvil wrote:
    Quote Your historical retelling of history in order to justify land giveaways is especially mirth some.
    What is not so funny or mirthsome is how the railroad and timber corporations gobbled up the West, in violation of the Homestead Act. The Union Pacific Railroad Act of 1862 itself was a violation of the Homestead Act that preceded it by only two months.

    Later, in the nineteenth century, the lands of the Public Domain in the
    North West were subjected to a systematized program of looting. Finally, in 1946, the Land Office was folded into the Bureau of Land Management, a Delaware Corporation.

    Quote Do you really think “communes” in the wilderness would be the answer? Asking "townies" to establish themselves in the wilderness, really?
    I have asked several folks on the Joe Rodota Trail if they would rather live on plots of close to half an acre and build their own tiny houses and have gardens in the near-wilderness of the burned-out former timberlands of Northern California and Oregon, and they have answered me emphatically, "Yes !"

    So I think the solution might work for some of them. It would also be a way to go cold turkey for all of those who would choose that route.

    Quote When did the great explosion begin? Was it really decades ago? Is that when the pee, poop and needles appeared in the streets of SF?
    That's real recent, Jefferson. The proverbial shit hitting the fan, since DJT and his Budget cuts in Social Services....

    Quote And what of two hundred people sleeping in the woods?
    As I have written above, on this very thread:

    "What I am proposing, is that the Timber-lands be made open to Homesteading. Every group of friends may bloc with their companions to press forward to make this happen. Naturally, it would be fitting and proper for folks of like affinity & like sentiments to occupy each forty acre parcel.

    These may be considered "Communes." Each nuclear family -or- single person, willing to settle in the country should be allotted a 4.444 acre parcel. In order for this to happen, the Homestead Act must be
    re-drafted & re-instituted, in accordance with the current Situation.

    Down the road from these Homesteads of the "working poor" should be established mini-homesteads for the "Homeless" who are not able to fend for themselves - the ones who have fallen through the cracks in the current "System" in Amerika.

    Some of these folks would do well if they were offered, free-of-charge, something close to half an acre, with a 'tiny house' built from rammed earth blocks, with a fir roof & rammed earth tiles on the roof.

    Those who are able to work, should be required to build their own 9x12 houses, and assist the less able-bodied and more dysfunctional in the construction of their tiny houses, out of rammed earth blocks. They should get points ( i.e. "money") for the work that is concluded; {not by the hour, but by the results.}

    The "working poor" who live up the road - in the 4.444 -acre "homesteads" - may assist in setting up the quarters for the Homeless. It is all do-able. The technology exists to make it happen.

    All that is needed are Alaskan (&/or "mobile-dimensional") mills, to make timbers out of the burned firs from the late fires - the firs that are still standing - & equipment to manufacture earth-blocks from the earth itself. Rammed earth blocks are easily created; only three (3) ingredients are necessary:

    1) Earth.
    2) Lime.
    3) Water.

    Truckloads of Lime may be shipped from Kansas and Missouri, where there is an abundance of Lime. It is all do-able. Folks with Green degrees from Humboldt State, who are adept at Perma-culture can find their life-work and a permanent home in the Process. They can become the mentors of the former veterans and more able-bodied among the "Homeless."

    After the majority of the burned timber that is still standing has been harvested and milled, the hills may be planted with orchards of fruit-trees. Orchards that are tended, are far less susceptible to "wild-fires" than timber-lands that are not properly maintained.

    What did John Lennon say, shortly before he was murdered? "There are no problems, only solutions."

    If the Democrat Party wishes to embody this in their 2020 Platform =OR= If the current Democrat -controlled Congress wishes to move forward towards this as a "Solution" to the Homeless Crisis, they may. I'm not going to hold my breath - but they may.

    If, on the other hand, Donald Trump and Doctor Ben Carson wish to redeem themselves as worthy heirs of the Republican Party Platform of 1860, they are welcome to take up the gauntlet, and run with this proposal.

    Otherwise, I suggest, that the common people Organize and force the hands of those who up-hold the vested interests of the plutocrats who have stolen the Land from those who dwell upon it."


    cyberanvil also wrote:
    Quote Perhaps the BLM could stop leasing land to the Burning Man Project and turn the land over to more useful purpose. Just a thought, what do you think?.
    Btw, the desert is far from warm at night, but I suppose solar would solve that.
    Yes, Yes, & YES !
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    Here is an important link about how the Capital of Texas, Austin, has established a working model of housing for (some) of those who were formerly on the Streets:

    Community First! Village


    If this can happen in Texas, California can do it also.

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    If you would like, I could introduce you to Joe Basel who has worked on the Austin project. You can PM me.

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    Here is an important link about how the Capital of Texas, Austin, has established a working model of housing for (some) of those who were formerly on the Streets:

    Community First! Village


    If this can happen in Texas, California can do it also.

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    If you would like, I could introduce you to Joe Basel who has worked on the Austin project. You can PM me.
    Thank you David. The main thrust of this thread has been my advocacy for Opening up to Homesteading a {reasonable} portion of the two hundred and forty-five million [245,000,000] acres that the Bureau of Land Management has been sitting on since 1976, when what was formerly known as the "Public Domain" was closed to Homesteads for the People of America.

    One of the major eye-opening experiences I have had when relating with the folks on the Joe Rodota Trail is coming to grips with the large number of Native American people who are currently Homeless in these United States.
    It is truly amazing and truly tragic, too.

    I truly believe that the People, United, can prevail. How is it that the B.L.M. can sit on those 245,000,000 acres of "Public Lands" in twelve Western States, and not allow We the People - especially the Native Americans among us - to dwell upon them?

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    I truly believe that the People, United, can prevail. How is it that the B.L.M. can sit on those 245,000,000 acres of "Public Lands" in twelve Western States, and not allow We the People - especially the Native Americans among us - to dwell upon them?

    Hold on to your hat, things could be changing. And not to your liking I'd guess.

    The New Guy in Charge of Public Lands Thinks We Should Sell It All
    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/j...ld-sell-it-all
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    Hold on to your hat, things could be changing. And not to your liking I'd guess.

    The New Guy in Charge of Public Lands Thinks We Should Sell It All
    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/j...ld-sell-it-all

    What else would one expect of Donald Johann Drumpf, the Businessman-President? Today, I ran the term "Bureau of Land Management" through the on-line Index of the State of Delaware, Department of State: Division of Corporations website. No luck. If the Bureau of Land Management ever was or is yet a Delaware Corporation, the facts of the matter are quite hidden from the Public. But does it really matter?

    Harold Ickes was one of the Trustees of several of the Alphabet Agencies that were established in 1933 & 1934 as Delaware corporations. That is a matter of Public Record * -&- The BLM was established in 1946 by President Harry Truman and Secretary of the Interior Harold Ickes. This set of coincidences proves nothing. Nevertheless, it is evident that the Creation of the BLM was presided over by a Secretary of the Interior who had definite Corporatist tendencies.

    The General Land Office, dating back to 1812, was folded into the Bureau of Land Management in 1946, and the Homestead Act of 1862 was terminated in the lower 48 in 1976. And Now, the Businessman's President wants to "Sell off the Public Lands." Ha !

    To whom, may I ask ? - The Chinese? And for what? - To pay off the National Debt?


    It is quite a negative trajectory, this downward spiral. That the land of Turtle Island - which No one owned in 1492, because the indigenous peoples had no concept of "land ownership" before the Europeans arrived - is now off-limits to habitation by We the People.

    There is great irony in this, and also that the push for the privatization of the former Public Domain is being promoted by men who claim to be the heirs of the party of Abraham Lincoln - who ran in 1860 on a platform of Free Soil.

    But whether it is in fact, a Delaware Corporation or Not, the BLM is an entity that should be dissolved - or at least broken up the way I.G.Farben was broken up after the War - because the BLM has abrogated its lawful powers and has outlived its usefulness as any sort of Public minded, Civil institution
    , for all of its pretense of serving the ideals of "conservation" & "ecology." For many years the BLM has functioned in the interest of Big Business; not in the Interest of the American People -Or- of the EARTH...

    = FURTHERMORE =

    At least twenty-five million of the two hundred and forty million acres of the former "Public Domain" that the BLM currently "Possesses" in the name of the "People" should, by right of Natural Law, return into the possession of a resurrected "General Land Office" and become available for homesteading & habitation by We the People - including, of course, the sons and daughters of the indigenous peoples of all of North America.


    * Scroll down to page 4048 for the beginning of the full text, in context.
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    Re: Open Committee Toward Solutions On the Homeless Crisis

    I see in this verse: Ezekiel 34:18, a picture of what the Establishment in America has done with the Public Lands; formerly known as the “Public Domain.”

    The Homestead Act in 1862 stated that no person could acquire more than 160 acres of the Public Domain.

    But the Pacific Railroad Act of 1862, (two months later) gave every other Section of the Wild West, in a vast checkerboard, to the Railroad Corporations. O well, White man speaks with fork
    éd tongue.

    Then, beginning in 1870's, the Homestead Act began to be systematically violated by an elaborate System of Fraud and Graft, which was countenanced by the powers-that-be. That was how the Timber Corporations got their Millions of Acres.

    In 1908, just as he was leaving office, Teddy Roosevelt quashed the Class-action Lawsuits that were attempting to wrest the title to the Timber-lands from the Lumber Cartels that had acquired possession of such lands by Fraud, and in Violation of the Homestead Act. This he did as a parting favor to his buddy, George Weyerhaeuser.

    In 1946, the Public Land Office was merged with the Grazing Service to form the Bureau of Land Management. Then, in 1976, they shut down the Option to Homestead in the lower Forty-eight.

    And Now, Trump's new man at the Bureau of Land Management, William Pendley, wants to 'privatize' & sell off
    to private corporations the 245,000,00 acres {in the lower 48} that the BLM has been “managing” for the last 73 years. Meanwhile, roughly one million people in the United States are homeless.

    Meanwhile, the POTUS and the Vice-POTUS and the whole hallelujah chorus in the Republican-controlled Senate pay lip-service to the Bible - as evidenced by their unctuous public piety during the State of the Union Address.

    But, Alas, they have destroyed the Pasture of the Poor.
    The prophets of Israel, who were of old, would have had plenty to say to these hypocrites of Capital Hill. And, Alas, they would have been stoned...

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    Re: Open Committee Toward Solutions On the Homeless Crisis

    Mark Evans (aka Mayacaman) writes

    Quote Meanwhile, the POTUS and the Vice-POTUS and the whole hallelujah chorus in the Republican-controlled Senate pay lip-service to the Bible - as evidenced by their unctuous public piety during the State of the Union Address.

    But, Alas, they have destroyed the Pasture of the Poor.
    The prophets of Israel, who were of old, would have had plenty to say to these hypocrites of Capital Hill. And, Alas, they would have been stoned...

    Take solace in that fact that Pelosi (pious woman that she is) cries and prays for Trump every day. At least that's what she says.
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