ICU beds is where the rubber meets the road! Numbers of new cases is not that informative because as testing increases "new" cases will increase.

Remember the key reason for the lock down was the...

Since I posted the link above, the Sheriff has had yet another change of heart, and now says "“I’m not following this f--king health order, and my original statement that we’re done on June 1 stands...

This thread is beginning to sound like the previous climate change arguments: a few scientists declare it's a hoax, while 98-99% scientists worldwide say it's real. Add to that the reality we are...

You have it backward, Jude. Almost all scientists (and mathematicians) quickly accepted Galileo's paradigm-shifting theories—and the paradigm-shifting theories of Copernicus, Kepler, and...

I've read some, in fact more than I'd like, considering I am trying to moderate this list...

Some has value, some doesn't. Most of which is bridled with such a heavy agenda to find how they are...

Plandemic and the Meme-O-Sphere

Now, as you may have noticed, things have ticked up a couple of notches in the meme-o-sphere into flat out batshit crazy (that’s a statistical term if you’re...

"Easily available with a click", you said somewhere. Now that is some serious research. Yes Barry, why don't you read or listen to every posting of some asinine crap on the internet that satisfies...

I'm ready to read certain things, such as the article Chauncey Gardener cited, and completely got wrong, with regard to polio. Most of the stuff you guys link is utter bullshit and I'm not going to...

This from Wikipedia about one of the 20th Century's most influential thinkers, Ivan Illich:

In his Medical Nemesis, first published in 1975, also known as Limits to Medicine, Illich subjected...

Sounds sort of like Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, and Mark Zuckerman and the Winklevoss brothers. The idealists v. the entrepreneurs ( euphemism).

I'll never forgive Gates for inflicting Windows 95 on me (and the world), but he's cleaned up his act after retiring. Timothy Eagan of the NYT has something to say about him:

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The impression I'm getting, all over the country, is that people have basically decided to switch from Shelter-In-Place to the Herd Immunity model, consequences be damned. It's exactly what happened...

The truth about vaccines is complicated. There are many, smallpox is the star, this disease has been eliminated. Polio is still around, despite the latest Gates efforts. The other extreme is...

Further, that’s the age that autism symptoms generally start.

No regulatory authority in the developed world would approve a vaccine with anything close to a 10% mortality rate.

What is crazy about anti-vax conspiracy theories is this: If vaccines were so...

Coincidence does not prove causation. There is one chance in 365 per year that autism symptoms will develop the day after a vaccination. What pray tell is the mechanism? Where, pay tell, are the...

I would very dearly like to know the truth about vaccines. How can I possibly know the truth if my bias is against them, hence looking for evidence to support my already made up opinion on vaccines?...

How is it that that people can be looking at the same things and come to 180° diametrically opposite conclusions?:hmmm::thinking::dunno:

Clearly senile? My dude, speak for yourself. I've closely watched two lengthy Larry O'Donnel interviews with Biden on MSNBC: his mind works just fine. He's not a gifted speaker and has a mild speech...

Dolores Cahill certainly has impressive medical credentials. However her evaluation of COVID-19 includes at least three assertions that are questionable. First, she states that after a person is...

I did a small job for a couple here in Santa Rosa about 30 years ago. They were anti vaccine trying to to the best for their only child. They did not give the child the polio vaccine. He got polio...

It need not be an Either/Or situation in this case, podfish / Peter. There is the potential - in the very near future - for Both/And.

Maybe I'm just dense, Shandi, but I don't read anything particularly sinister in this article.

If covid 19 was "planned biowarfare," why has it spread all over the world? What would the military...

Thanks, podfish. My issue is not whether people could accept that Ray could be pleasant. My issue is about accepting people with a different political point of view on this forum. I now understand...

Curious which wildlife is being freaked out by the howling? I had one evening where I opened my front door to join in and started the howl even before the door was completely open...when I looked...

Not so! Margaret Sanger only advocated depopulation via birth control rather than mass murder. From wikipedia:

Sanger's eugenics policies included an exclusionary immigration policy, free access...

Except the percentage of positive results is going to be grossly skewed by who gets tested. As tests are more available and the requirement for serious symptoms to be teated goes away, the %...

Occihoff, you are wasting your time. And now you are wasting my time and that of the rest of the Waccobb *progressive* community too.

Cyberanvil and Ray were not looking to communicate. They were...

Here's my take on the situation: no, COVID-19 and the pandemic in general are not hoaxes. The credible evidence leads me to the conclusion that it is a naturally-occurring virus normally found in a...

First, what is something "worth"? Typically, something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Which is interesting because it can change from person to person and from time to time. And you...

I did some of my own 'homework', I admit it was low in sources I investigated, brief and not totally complete.t.

That being said; from what I have found so far, Dr. Francis Boyle is not a...

I'll grant you Ralph Nader has done a lot of good as a tireless advocate for consumer safety and ordinary people. He also has a big ego that totally backfired when he ran for President in 2000 and...

I've also been tracking our progress in Sonoma County. For personal reasons I've also been tracking the progress in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, which has more or less the same population, as well...

Whenever anyone tries to raise the specter of "conspiracy" to discredit a line of reasoning, I simply invoke the nationally televised 1975 US Senate Church Committee hearings into various illegal...

The Bakersfield doctors are the worst kind of opportunists, spreading dangerous information. It is despicable. They are firm supporters of a leader who has advocated for lethal "treatments" of this...

I'm sorry to hear that, SPC. I've always valued your input. There have been several Trumpsters we have welcomed as guests. If they are thoughtful and respectful they are welcome as guests. I ask our...

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."

No one has been banned from wacco TMK. Barry just proposed a separate category for the far right's perspective. He got a lot of "gratitude" when he...

Yes, I do think Fauci has the best interests of mankind in his heart. Yes, we should wait for a vaccine (the alternative being?), and I think it would be best if a sufficient percentage of people...

Sure, Barry has a right to do anything he wants with his website creation. For me, the question is: what do we Waccos really prefer this site to be? I am as passionate a progressive as any of you,...

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No, I did not know this. Probably because much of it is misrepresentation or outright BS...

I think 6-7 of the current childhood vaccines are cultured on aborted fetal tissue. So be it. I have no...

I'm not a steady visitor to Wacco: I tend to drop in and out and sometimes am gone for months. So I may not have the steady experience with cyberanvil that gives many of you such a negative feeling...

Of course the DNC "rejected" Bernie... he is not a Democrat! He is an independent, always has been and probably always will be. The so-called Bernie Bros -- I'm guessing this is your pejorative term...

While I've tried allowing thoughtful Trumpsters to post here, as well as allowing space for various conspiracy theories, however lately I and other members have felt these topics are getting out of...

^^^ well, there you go. The key words *against* *funding* *China*. Look at who is saying this.

This has little to do with the current crisis- and everything to do with the ignorance and partisan...

Well- it should be noted- that as much as I despised him on oh so many levels- it was actually Bush who put in place much of Americas pandemic response and cooperation with foreign nations- policies...

Lengthy but good enumeration of the obstacles Biden faces in the coming campaign.

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Trump Has a Gut Feeling About What Covid-19 Means for...

My environmental science teacher said, "all environmental problems are caused by simplistic thinking in a complex, cyclic world ..." Humans have a tendency to flatten reality, rather than take in...

“80% confident” the vaccine would work, and could be ready by September... ok, but what does this actually mean? A vaccine can't be 80%. And what does she mean by "ready"? It has to be not only...

Interesting perspective. We won't have a vaccine by October. It's not possible to do all the testing required to make sure the vaccine is safe and effective and able to be produced in that timeframe....