Henry,

I don't have the desire to re-read all the posts on this now very tiresome topic but it occurs to me that you joined wacco on July 14, the day this story broke. It is clear you, and maybe...

I have never talked about absolving Efren, just waiting until he has a chance to defend himself. You do seem to want to discredit anyone who disagrees with you, Henry ... and I'm sure that many...

You're attacking a straw-man, Henry. I see no indication by Arthunter of abrogating the public's right to recall. All I see is a request to wait for a trial, before requesting Efren resign, and...

Maybe he was talking on the phone and needed to take a leak?
And I repeat I do not agree with Efren's voting and pro development record, but I do think he should not be tried by newspaper.
Marty

Thank you for writing, Sandy.
Firstly, I would like to state that I have been deeply disappointed with Efren Carrillo's pro development voting record. I love rural Sonoma County and would very...

The last few comments on this thread have disturbed me and I'd like to address them:



While I agree that "being respectful in situations like these is the most effective way" I don't agree that...

Thank you, Edward, for the contact information.

I have just written an email to Efren Carrillo with a copy to Susan Upchurch. I stated my opinion that, given the meager facts available to us,...

With all due respect sir ... you would ask for his resignation before he goes to trial? ... before he has a chance to defend himself? ... isn't that a presumption of guilt? ... isn't that what the...

I agree. I was about to move it to the Censored category when heresbruce, arthunter and henry called her on it.

Susan Upchurch may be many things, but "bimbo" certainly isn't one of them. A...

Pardon my abrupt crudeness, but I am amazed at the general stupidity, vapidity and ignorance of the people posting here: regarding mamaj's remark, Susan Upchurch, Efren Carrillo's assistant is a...

Barry,

Thank you for your well articulated posting and for creating the poll. However, I found it difficult to choose among your four categories and felt I wanted a more nuanced choice. While I...

Thanks for all your comments about this bizarre episode.

I have combined the two threads on this topic.

As this has been a very active thread, for those of you who have already posted, please...

Jonathan,

Why don't you wait until the whole truth comes out before you make up your mind. You and many others have pre-judged the situation ( prejudice ?? - OMG !! ). What if the second 911 call...

I lack the imagination that some of the rest of you have. Someone has really got to have a good one to come up with scenarios that would present the man as having been misunderstood. An example...

Regarding the WACCO response to the charges against Efren Carillo, I find this rush to judgment by a generally progressive, reasonable group of people surprising and appalling Is this kneejerk mob...

I am so grateful to see this thread, it brought home again what I had witnessed in prior threads: I had falsely believed that west county was where liberal progressive open minded people were......

Conrad,

You and Elizabeth remain two of the wisest people in Sonoma County.

That said, I want to mention Game of Thrones, a ridiculously violent HBO show that I've unaccountably come to love....

I, for one, do not believe I have enough facts from the Press Democrat article to make even an educated guess about what actually happened or was potentially about to happen. I certainly don't know...

I agree that it seems unlikely that he would flat-out resign, unless there's actually a conviction for an offense that mandates more than just a fine. Is there such a thing as a leave of absence,...

To: Producers of KWMF 2013

I would like to give you some feedback with regard to this year's KW festival.

I have come to 3 festivals, and have brought my family to the last 2. I was very...

I have been using this parking lot for years to gain access to the trail, but I did notice that their was a no parking sign put up at the entrance about two to three months ago. I did park in the lot...

The following article by the Sebastopol Famers Market board appeared on the opinion section of the Sonoma West website today.

https://i.imgur.com/yv1Iu.png

Setting the record straight by the...

There's at least two bits of misinformation above. First, there have been several architects on The Barlow. The one immediately proceeding Kathy Austin was Thad Geldert out of Sonoma. I don't know...

It's been pointed out to me that my post at the end of the earlier thread on this topic (which helped kicked off this current discussion) which characterized a Sunday farmers market at The Barlow as...

Barry, PRECISELY. Another ice cream parlor (used as only an example, Mimi's!) would simply offer another choice for people. Several vendors at the market offer the very same vegetables and lilacs....

By my count there have been 33 people who have posted to this thread. That's not bad (and thank you all for chiming in!) , but I agree with you that more would be better! If you haven't posted your...

While we may not agree on a Barlow Sunday Market I really appreciate the way you expressed your opinion without vilifying opposing points of view. One of the things I appreciate about Sebastopol is...

So. OK... what does the rest of the community think of this wearying thread? I am finally weighing in:

I’m a new vendor at the S F M where I sell my hand-crafted jewelry. It’s a tiny little...

Wow, lots of back-and-forth opinions on this thread, but there really are only a few people participating.

So . . . I hope no one is going around spreading gossip that the residents of...

Sebastopol Farmers Market is crowded. The produce is fine but extremely over-priced. Expand the market and provide a real venue for real farmers and hobby vegetable gardens. When my kids were...

The only problem with a market on Friday is there is already an established Farmer's Market on Friday in Occidental, which is closer to my neck of the woods. The Friday Occidental market is a great...

Why do it, indeed? Could it be the Barlow is a better location? The Barlow has more spaces so more farmers can sell their wares and the public has a greater selection, they have more parkjng, they...

Barry,
I highly respect what you have created for this community.

I can understand the necessity of moderating to keep things copacetic. I have to do so often on my forums. However, from my...

[I'm posting this for Paula, the Sebastopol Farm Market Manager]

To Melissa and Deb and Barry and All our Wacco friends...

This is Paula, manager of the Sebastopol Farm Market. I can,...

By Dixon Wragg
WaccoBB.net

For over three years now, one Daniel Osmer has been providing a valuable service to the local community by organizing and hosting a weekly event called “The...

all you're doing here is saying you don't think a non-smoking policy is worth having or enforcing. Clearly others differ.

Snark is appropriate when confronted by such absurdity as the budding OBL deather conspiracy. It is not rational and rational discourse is an utter waste of time when dealing with such ridiculous...

I personally think had bin Laden been allowed to live and go to trial, his followers would have then gone on to commit more horrendous crimes - captured and kept hostages in order to demand any...

Deathers! - our newest conspiracy freaks. Has a nice symmetry with the birthers, don't you think?

Oy

driving home last night, dark, on Guerneville Road, due to heavy rain and standing water, I had difficulty doing the 55 mph.

The speed limit is also governed by the road conditions. Even if a...

How about if we just pay attention to ALL the laws, so we can also save the cost of policemen and prisons?

QUOTE:
We have enough bureaucracy (that we can't afford) without having every road...

If someone has been cited two previous times for speeding on a certain road, it's difficult to have sympathy for that person when they get a third ticket for speeding on the same road. It appears to...

Apparently my new 2-way electric meter for my solar system is NOT a smart meter:
https://www.waccobb.net/forums/waccobb/ImagesforMembers/BarryElectric.jpg

HOWEVER, my gas meter is! That's fine...

Here's Efren's letter in support of AB37. Apparently they were already working on it at the point I requested it last week. Let's remember that Efren did a great job of holding PG&E's feet to the...

I think an opt-out option is clearly the right answer in this mess. That's the way it should have been from the start, possibly with either a surcharge for getting your meter read manually or a...

This is bizarre "reasoning". You're saying that whether something makes sense, or whether it's right or wrong, depends on the religion or ethnicity of whoever's considering it? Something could be...

I am sorry to see such attacks here on WaccoBB.net.

I decided to let Paula’s post about Ron Basso go through because:


It was a matter of public concern (Ron was standing for an elected...

Dear Mary Li,

In response to your comments I can only say, with much respect for your pain, that I did not lie or act out of anger. I revealed, as humbly as I could, what I found in the public...

I agree with Conrad that each of us is fallible, deserving of tolerance and empathy, and has the capacity for redemption. If Ron Basso has experienced an epiphany in the years since I left his...