Yep, folks posting on this don't understand that properly designed studies are made to take the bias out of science. This is what peer reviewed journals are for.

that depends on your standards for accepting evidence. I again refer to chemtrails. Those who worry about them think they have evidence in their favor. As we all are seeing these days, there are...

I think converting the parking lot into a mixed-use development with housing and commercial space is a great idea. Increasing density in our towns and cities is the only way we can accommodate a...

babies and bathwater? This resonates of a quote I used a while ago, from our boy who grudgingly admitted that some (scientists), he assumes, are good people. Hey, maybe most are.

and anyway, the...

guilt by association? anyway, that doesn't offer anything to change my perspective: there's no proof that there's harm, and there are people involved in trying to find out if some harm potentially...

Scientists, who are competent, will publish results in juried scientific journals. To my knowledge, the creation scientists have never had an article approved for publication. These are peer reviewed...

I would like to see epidemiological studies from areas that first did not have Smart meters and then after they were installed. I remember first hearing about them when I lived in another town and...

I agree with the identification of the 'right questions', but I'm confused why you think this supports your usual position. I read it exactly opposite. They express some concern, but not much. They...

Hopmonk doesn't own the large parking lot. The City does. Hopmonk only owns the small triangular lot near it's entrance.

I think the City's thinking is that the displaced parking spaces can mostly...

This is a great idea! Yeah for housing over parking! There are many many many many many likely objections to any development like this. No new housing will ever be built anywhere in California, if...

And where will everyone park? What about the businesses downtown, and their customers? Etc.? This does not seem well thought out at all.

I was about to post the same Snopes article link, but you beat me to it! For those that won't bother with it or reading to the end, here's the conclusion:

"It is true that in May 2013 a small...

https://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/595/animated-plant-image-0075.gif

That sounds like a nice easy experiment.
Anybody care to try it, along with sprouting seeds in a similar environment...

your doctors must suck. I know a lot of doctors, some of them really well. I've never met one like you describe, though I have had some doctors describe a few colleagues that way (in particular,...

Advocacy site? That seems pretty generous. It looks to me like a web store intended to frighten people into spending hard earned money on expensive, questionable products. The first thing I see is a...

I didn't say or intend to imply that the quote was fabricated. I'm finding these things are often taken out of context or misconstrued, then propagated wildly. I saw the references all looked...

yeah, I thought the logic was quite compelling :wink:

well, to be accurate, the first link is to the advocacy site 'defendershield.com'. They in turn link to the NMRI report. The disclaimer Patrick refers to is on page 7. I don't think your...

Here is the real danger. I have not had any wifi issues after having my Smartmeter installed.
https://www.smartdatacollective.com/smart-meters-kill-wifi-not-people/

I clicked on the first link in the paragraph headed "What Government Research Has Found". After seeing the quality of their first linked source (one might assume they put their best material at the...

I noticed that this cellphonetaskforce list makes reference to a supposed filing by ARRL's Bioeffects Committee to the FCC. Since I'm a long time ARRL member with access to all of their web info, I...

Here's the summary from the report:

KEY REPORT FINDINGS

Wireless smart meters, when installed and properly maintained, result in much smaller levels of radio ...

I'm not necessarily pro-Smart Meter or anti-Smart Meter but I found this report interesting. Maybe it's already been posted in this discussion thread. Apologies if so.
...

40210Please be aware of a new project that the CITY OF SEBASTOPOL is proposing - PINE GROVE SQUARE.

This will be discussed at the June 6 Council meeting at 6pm at the Youth Annex, 435 Morris St....

No Government research here folks (certainly none that supports the claims being made.)

First of all, this is a bibliography, a list of papers and other sources that mention the subject in some...

Most name calling as come from the anti smart meter side accusing those who think they are OK or at least not a problem are accused of working for corporate interests.

Exactly, just as the antivaxxer EMF sensitive, quack medicine etc. sites are

oh yeah, when I posted earlier about "who's name calling?" I was thinking more of those on the skeptical side... I forgot him!!

and to be fair, he never called anyone a shill. He did call someone...

those are great. But really the traffic on this thread hasn't arisen primarily from challenges to the premise, though many of us are still unconvinced. But the discussion is shaped by the postings...

That is certainly in line with the traditional American anti-intellectuallism. Welcome to Trump World, you are at home there.

There is an entire organization that believes this. https://www.icr.org

I went to one of their presentations when I was a Fundamentalist Christian. I even had problems with some of it then. https://www.icr.org

google's awesome. I just put in:
"scientist says the earth was created in seven days"
and the fourth one down led me to Dr. Humphreys. This led me to his papers:
...

see, that's the difference between a scientific and a faith-based approach. Someone interested in understanding a subject should be very interested in what other people think. Maybe most opinions...

I can find you sites with "scientific" proof by real scientists that the earth was created in seven days.

I just love your name calling. It really helps invalidate your status as a person of reason. Count me in as green with pointed ears also. I will troll for science until I die.

If you accept this crap as you would someone who believes in a religion that you consider stupid, you come close to understanding the fake science people. It is like a stupid religion that you cannot...

LOL!!! Diabetes is caused by eating too much sugar. Got it? Quack Quack Quack

I have a powerful router in my bedroom right now. No difference before or after installation.

Science is based on evidence not stories. Have you talked to a public health expert from that county?

I remember talking to a person who had been a technician around this sort of equipment. He said that he could feel it well enough to actually use his sensations in helping tune equipment. I liked his...

This report shows why there is a wire cage in your microwave oven. The EMF from Smartmeters is not microwave energy.

The whole thing was such a badly designed experiment that it would not be acceptable in an elementary grade level science fair.

There are a number of fine books on how to design experiments. Doing one in an uncontrolled environment is probably first on the list of don'ts. There needs to be more than one subject that complains...

My war against faux science is just that and includes all kinds of junk science including quack medical theories and cures, antivaxxers, Creationists (I am not talking about faith based statements...

Have you tracked how often and how powerful the signal is? I suspect that the Smart Meter is not transmitting all the time.

Yeah, I am certainly not corporate owned. I am just sick and tired of faux science, whether it is Creationists, antivaxxers, EMF phobics, quack medicine (which has plenty of followers in the West...

You're one of the snake oil salesmen taking advantage of people selling them faux test instruments and "cleaning" their electricity??

That's how you characterize my whopping lifetime achievement of 12 posts? Seems like distorting information is a compulsive activity of yours. Or are my posts inconvenient?


I already stated...

really. Not to be overly skeptical, but I could have sworn that I heard the nation has unprecedented numbers of diabetics. And people still die from cancer. You certainly should publicize your...