I really love Rebecca Webb. soundhealsyou.com She is in Sebastopol. She has a lot of experience--has been a healer for about 20 years--and is grounded, insightful, and oozes nurturing calm. Melissa

Hi There,

Does anyone know of a dentist ANYWHERE in the bay area that has some awareness or clue that the body, diet, lifestyle,etc. can influence what is going on in the mouth? I saw Dr. Chalmers...

Most of the referrals on the dentist string are pretty dated. I'm looking for reviews of more recent experiences - for current referrals (positive and negative). And if cost is average or incredibly...

Thank you so much, Patricia, for your very thoughtful and so very well-organized responses. And thank you too, sealwatcher, for inviting Patricia's input. There's a lot of excellent, useful material...

Thank you for doing this!

Might want to refer to:

Patricia Dines STEP (Sebastopol Toxics Education Program) newsletter archives for article "What's the Matter with Roundup" (vol. 1, number 3,...

This post is a reply to Councilperson Eder's recent statements on Wacco regarding Palm Drive Hospital.

I think that it is important to move away from the perception that the hospital exists...

Jim,

Your continual insistence that there are conflict's of interest in the physician/foundation plan are absurd. You ran for the district board when your wife worked at Palm Drive. You didn't...

I was not at Monday's Palm Drive District Board Meeting, but I have spoken to three people who were. It was indeed polite. It ended with departing CEO Tom Harlan holding up an Open Our Hospital...

Like Jonathan Greenburg, I’m encouraged to see responses about Palm Drive from people who have at least some tangential connection with the situation. That’s been sorely lacking. If some critics...

Jonathan,

Someone asked Joan why Wells Fargo would want to see Palm Drive Closed?

First the short answer:

Wells is protecting itself and the bond holders ability to keep collecting our tax...

I found the headline in this week's Sonoma West Times an interesting choice of perspective: "Judge Denies Mediation Request in Hospital Saga". Since many people read the headlines, and only the...

You are both right as far as the local newspaper goes, hospital utilization for INPATIENT services has dropped dramatically all over the US during the last 30 years and continues on the same trend....

Scamperwillow,

First, I want to agree with you that the Palm Drive District Board members are not "self-interested, vindictive people." I have found no evidence of any corruption on the part of...

Behind Palm Drive Hospital's Closing Part II: Wells Fargo Bank & the Shutdown Playbook

How A Bondholder-Friendly Shutdown Playbook Secretly Sunk Our Hospital

By Jonathan Greenberg
For...

Thank you Jonathan! We need this kind of intelligent investigative reporting to expose what went on behind the doors that forced the closure of Palm Drive Hospital. And recently rated by Consumer...

Palm Drive’s Lawyers Say That
The Public Does Not Want to
Re-Open the Emergency Room

By Jonathan Greenberg
WaccoBB.net
​...

I think Sebastopol could really use a tool-lending library and community work/wood shop. I'm a builder who would be willing to manage it and I know there is demand for something like this. But how to...

Many laymen don't understand that "The System" operates according to a very detailed set of rules and procedures. What they think is "Common Sense" doesn't apply.

Old pros like Andrian know how...

Granted, it was wrong for Carrillo to intrude upon this woman, but muddying the waters with your rape fantasies when there is no real reason to believe that Carillo would ever sexually assault anyone...

https://www.waccobb.net/forums/waccobb/keep90days/2014-04-17_14-24-43.pngAmazingly enough, seems as though Efren will have his day (or two) in court, whether he wants to or not!

The woman must...

That's the bottom line here. This is a ZERO SUM GAME. For every dollar "manifested" there is a dollar less in some other "sister's" purse. Yes, some may choose to re-invest or sponsor someone else,...

Hmmm..... Well I have heard of many of these schemes over the years and they are all based on a basic pyramid scheme. The general idea is it is an exclusive ( aren't you lucky I decided to let you...

Marilyn, Shandi's comment was not directed at you. It was a response to Hummingbird. Shandi was referring to the fact that Hummingbird has been praising pyramid schemes like the Women's "Wisdom"...

I suppose that you might choose to view the Gifting Circles group differently. Here's my view: you start by paying an entry fee of $5000, which is merely the equivalent of a club membership fee, and...

I'm curious about how we don't give others the freedom to make their own choices. Who among us has that power? When my friends or acquaintances have asked me "What should I do, or what's the...

attack?? pretty much all the posts have patiently gone over and over the same ground - that these circles do harm - and tried to point out that the O.P.s defenses seem to deflect rather than address...

I'm still getting responses to my personal email sent out to friends asking if they had experience in gifting circles.

One woman told me today that it was like a "sinkhole" pulling everyone down. ...

Hi everyone. I have not yet responded to this thread until now because I have tendinitis and cannot type (using voice recognition software is a long exhausting and painful process). But I am...

Have you ever had your purse stolen. Ever been raped? Have you had your house broken into? Your child murdered? Would you consider any of these events "crimes"? Any "victims"? No, o.k. you're...

In my perception, which is all I have, these are valid questions that have been asked of someone who blatantly refuses to acknowledge that most women have been harmed by this practice, as much as...

Gratitude just doesn't say enough about your compassionate insight and intelligence in speaking to this topic. I so appreciate your willingness to take the time to share your truest feelings and...

The thing is that it is easy enough to see that these circles/pyramids are evolving in the direction of more evolved sounding rhetoric. But the nature of the scheme has not evolved. I did one 25...

I think that the appeal of making $40,000 (which is what one woman I know made) is a lot more exciting than just $4,000., if the entry ticket was only $500. If you had a choice of gaining $40,000...

Just making an initial report: I've had 6 responses and all have basically said they were ripped off, even my friend who indicated there had been 2 times! One woman had never heard of it.....

$5000 or $500 - unless you change the cover story and the structure it's still a pyramid scheme.

Joy

Very clearly stated -thank you
It's the COVER STORY that is the problem.
Joy

Exactly!!

Svea

Bottom line is that the District attorney considers these "gifting circles" Pyramid schemes and scams. And this comes back every time the economy tanks and people get desperate for money and it...

BTW, Ted Pole, I love the title you came up with: Women's Grifting Circle! :biglaugh:

Patricia, I'm no math whiz, but I can tell you this: The odds of making money versus losing your investment, whether you're on the 3rd, 6th, 8th or whatever level, depend entirely on whether three...

I did a search trying to find a "gifting circle" to join, but realize these aren't posted, but spread through secret phone conversations or in person. I did find several references to the circles...

There are so many ways to give/gift. I'd much rather give to some woman who's struggling to make ends meet, with no way of "gifting" $5,000. to a woman in a circle, let alone being able to...

Nobody bats an eye if we incarcerate some young black, brown or poor white guy(s) for burglarizing a home and getting, say, a few hundred bucks worth of stuff. Fine--they did the crime; let them do...

Most of those who've contacted me privately about having been ripped off by these things have described themselves as naive, sometimes even using that word. How would it not be naive to engage in a...

I have been meaning to respond to some of the commenters on this board who call the PD's comments about "communist plot" merely standard "rhetorical flourish," as well as this thought that followed: ...

Robyn, I have calculated the numbers for a pyramid scheme of this particular type (each one recruit two others and receive the buy-in fees from those 3 levels below). About 89% of the women who...

What are these women appreciating? I'd really like to know that.
Do they really understand that this is a pyramid scheme? I didn't appreciate learning that getting my money back was near to...

When there is no product, only money changes hands and the first to invest are winners and the last to invest are losers... it's a pyramid scheme.

Multilevel Marketing businesses can also be...

by Dixon Wragg
WaccoBB.net

Column #18: Pyramid of Betrayal



"I was on the women's gifting circle and lost about $6000.00 and now stay away from them..."

"I personally know several...

Dear Community,

I write to you all because I feel compelled to offer my voice regarding the “Women's Circles” which many of our friends are involved with. I am particularly referring here to the...