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  1. Re: Sebastopol City Council unanimously opposes Dairyman Winery Proposal

    The sups have naively (?) had "sonoma county Tourism" as part of their vision plan for a couple of years now, in response to the economic crash the country still hasn't recovered from. Witness the...
  2. Re: Does Islam Promote Violence

    From an Israeli perspective, ISIS is the same as Hamas. In Article 28 of the Hamas charter they specifically call for the destruction of all Jews and Israel both. "Israel with its Jewish identity...
  3. Re: What to do about ISIL/ISIS?

    Your book recommendations (and descriptions) sound very interesting. Intriguing and worthwhile - thank you.



    Yes, he's a learned, deeply religious man. He's both a cleric and a scholar. I'm...
  4. Re: What to do about ISIL/ISIS?

    Thank you, y'know, as a general response to the thread: can we figure out what to do about ISIL at this stage if we don't look at the reasons and causes.
    ...
  5. Re: What to do about ISIL/ISIS?

    I agree that you shouldn't post on it because it only makes sense when a fuller context is understood. A Jewish context. Because The Erev Rav are Jews. It's a question for religious Jews, seemingly,...
  6. Re: Board of Supervisors Unanimously Call for Efren to Resign

    Just curious - round 'bout how old would someone need to be to not have this activity prefaced/justified as a youthful escapade or youthful folly? Forty? Thirty? ("On May 6, 2014, the Sonoma County...
  7. Housing Re: Barn and corral for rent

    A relief to see an increase not only in available housing but affordable housing
  8. After All is Said and Done, A Squirrel Will Be To Blame

    Believe it or not, Marionville MO is the unique location for a mysterious white squirrel population. They are 15 percent of the town's population. Damn it! I should have known!!
    ...
  9. Re: Efren's side of the argument is unpersuasive

    Is this decision to go to trial part of a continued delay tactic that is pension-related?

    The PD's failure to self-restrain was their teenaged, down-home need to be irrelevant and name the brand...
  10. Re: Expanding Water Fluoridation in Sonoma County

    During the recent Sonoma County BoS meeting on Sept 24th, Supervisor Zane voiced the following concerns about the impact of water pollution on fish:

    She advised that she attended the Sonoma...
  11. Re: Davis rejects fluoride in city drinking water

    The Board of Public Utilities will yet again be requesting that the fixed costs for Santa Rosa water and sewer increase --highly suspicious. Comments section for this PD article yesterday is a...
  12. Re: Sen. Ron Wyden: NSA 'repeatedly deceived the American people

    Prophetic. Weren't these the coolest. A portable, automatic typesetter. With all of the engineering improvements that could be made today... super-light, portable, quiet, non-electric, font...
  13. Re: Efren Carrillo not prepared to resign at this time

    Yes, I'm glad you pointed out the grey space. However, wouldn't it make more sense in your line of reasoning to call this alleged accuser, "the other party." ? If her temporary role at this...
  14. Re: Efren Carrillo not prepared to resign at this time

    I agree and am glad to hear it. You make many fine points throughout. However, we DO now know something, we know how the victim feels in this "the wide range of human possibility" regarding what...
  15. Re: Efren Carrillo not prepared to resign at this time

    Just curious if anyone on here who read that article, and read what the prosecution-side said, now feels an impulse to even just briefly apologize for their extreme open-endedness...? It's a...
  16. Re: Sebastopol Gestapo?

    The realist-satirist Chris Rock wrote a cynical, public service sketch video, "Be Polite." I post it knowing it will also be misunderstood; Barry might censor. It's not for everyone, but it's a...
  17. Re: Efren Carrillo not prepared to resign at this time

    I'm not judging or criticizing this other public servant, the Sonoma County Fire Chief, just sayin' -

    https:// https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20130904/articles/130909817

    Sonoma County...
  18. Re: What should be done about Syria?

    WELL SAID!

    I would re-submit "backstage racketeering" and perhaps domestic apathy or domestic procrastination or deep denial.

    Whichever country goes to war or tortures others just to "make a...
  19. Re: We, The People, to Library Commissioners: Budget Restoration of Hours or Resign!

    Such reasonable and fully persuasive presentations. Thank you, Jonathan. The gentleman who spoke of the library system as an institution that actively partners with the schools was spot-on.
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  20. Re: What should be done about Syria?

    New poll of Americans asks this same question.

    https://www.theonion.com/articles/poll-majority-of-americans-approve-of-sending-cong,33752/ ...
  21. Re: What should be done about Syria?

    Good luck to anyone who can bushwhack their way through all of the national and international backstage racketeering and political complexities to fully validate what is in fact going on; the...
  22. Re: Efren Carrillo Cartoon Caption Contest!

    https://contest.newyorker.com/CaptionContest.aspx?tab=vote&affiliate=ny-caption

    You guys must not have even entered your cartoon captions -- look at the "winners"! Typical national election. And...
  23. Re: from Steve Lonegan, GOP Senate candidate, New Jersey

    Recall the "Character Counts" backlash? It's no longer in the media? Seems like a sardonic phrase in retrospect, like the triple-entendre "trickle down."

    These fun six pillars for kids in...
  24. Re: from Steve Lonegan, GOP Senate candidate, New Jersey

    Another giver who isn't a taker. Has caused me to realize that I prefer politicians who harbor any number of judgment-impairing personal issues that bleed into public duties over those elected...
  25. Re: Efren Carrillo Cartoon Caption Contest!

    No one can have an answer. I have no idea what he was doing. But, I take issue with your implication that this other behavior, in general, (on the other hand), is somehow ever so slightly...
  26. Re: Letter on Efren Carrillo sent to Sonoma County Democratic Party

    My intent was not one of harm nor repetition. Just the opposite. And no, it is not personal about the supervisor. No one can hear, so -- very well. Please know that you have simply not understood...
  27. Poll: Re: Efren Carrillo arrested on Prowling and Burglary charges!!!!

    I was only responding to what his supporters seem to believe is true. (Their understanding is naturally buoyed by the public having been officially told that he is in rehab for a drinking problem.) ...
  28. Poll: Re: Efren Carrillo arrested on Prowling and Burglary charges!!!!

    Church lady is sharing a select few of the FB comments on Efren's page as they apparently illustrate why many feel the way they do about Efren's behavior.


    He's only human. Everyone...
  29. Re: County DHS Kicks Off "Healthy Teeth for Healthy Life" program

    EcoGirl sent a second link so that we could read all of the fun. Looks like they did shift around the content. They may have moved the most fallacious statements into the "FAQ" section. hehe.
    ...
  30. Poll: Re: Efren Carrillo arrested on Prowling and Burglary charges!!!!

    Church Lady must add 2 cents, in the hopes that she'll be made a scapegoat, thus forcing the discussion back onto its proper, action-oriented rails:

    This made up stoner story from John 8 :11...
  31. Poll: Re: Efren Carrillo arrested on Prowling and Burglary charges!!!!

    https://www.bohemian.com/BohoBlog/archives/2013/07/18/efren-carrillo-appears-in-court

    Prior to this rag's highly selective choice of photo this morning, I hadn't fully grasped exactly what it...
  32. Poll: Re: Efren Carrillo arrested on Prowling and Burglary charges!!!!

    I lack the imagination that some of the rest of you have. Someone has really got to have a good one to come up with scenarios that would present the man as having been misunderstood. An example...
  33. Poll: Re: Efren Carrillo arrested on Prowling and Burglary charges!!!!

    I don't understand why ppl keep treating this like it's just a sex scandal. And, with your type of thinking, isn't there a danger of this happening?: " If charged and convicted of a felony he...
  34. Poll: Re: Efren Carrillo arrested on Prowling and Burglary charges!!!!

    Bulls*** upon bullsh*** makes for good grow, in any situation, I guess, but you really can put on too much. When did drunkenness become a winning defense? Even w/no proof of drunkenness? But,...
  35. Poll: Re: Sure hope Carillo can be disempowered before the verdict

    Oh, cool -- thank you. I felt like he spoke and acted during the Feb 2013 BoS mtg ( audio only) as if he were passively involved in a mental exercise, as though this issue didnt genuinely apply to...
  36. Poll: Re: Sure hope Carillo can be disempowered before the verdict

    I'm not sure I understand you here -- Efren's vote was passionately locked in for approval of the drinking water fluoridation initiative. Without good reason given. Sickened -- continually...
  37. Re: Monday July 8th - New Hunger Strike Begins at Pelican Bay SHU

    Five minute video link of Thom Hartmann interviewing Lee Fang, "The Nation" contributor, and author of The Machine: A Field Guide to the Resurgent Right.

    Why we should be paying more attention to...
  38. Monday July 8th - New Hunger Strike Begins at Pelican Bay SHU

    The Pelican Bay Sate Prison Solitary Housing Unit Short Corridor Representatives will resume their nonviolent peaceful protest action on July 08, 2013. The California Department of Corrections and...
  39. Re: The Fluoridation Advisory Committee

    imao...Good question. Good answers...Waccobb readers and posters alone probably don't have the full power to change Efren's vote....Even if everyone on waccobb was against the initiative to...
  40. Re: The Fluoridation Advisory Committee

    Re: The Sonoma County Board of Supervisors Feb 2013 meeting. Part 2: The F'ion Tapes

    I'm tired of the nutty radicalism and side-mouth talkin' from Dr S-C, I will tell you that as numero uno.
    ...
  41. Re: The Fluoridation Advisory Committee

    I'm going to add in the cost of that election!

    Portland, Eugene, & many other communities in Oregon are aware of how their water source is much purer than average. Whatever people value, they...
  42. Re: Sonoma State's Project Censored discussed real agenda on Fluoride

    Their mention of tap water? An important thing to consider: Some of the classrooms in the county do not have ready access to tap water, as amazing as that sounds.

    Sonoma County is divided into...
  43. Re: Sonoma State's Project Censored discussed real agenda on Fluoride

    Sonoma County's Healthy Beverage Initiative... AND? For now, an "awareness" posting only. From the busy office of DHS. Yes, here it comes, the already expected drive to reduce sugary soda...
  44. Re: The Fluoridation Advisory Committee

    Well. I can't thank you enough, anyone who attends these meetings. Thank you very much.:Clap:I just spoke with my elder cousin in SR and couldn't feel more helpless and infuriated at the moment that...
  45. Re: The Fluoridation Advisory Committee

    Lilypads, Thank you, well, yes, but I'm lacking an instinct for that type of more abstract research. Here is a September 2012 Press Democrat article. It's interweaving -- is this the level that...
  46. Re: The Fluoridation Advisory Committee

    The actual beginning of the Community Water Fluoridation (CWF) morass can be traced to the pre-Chalfin work where the county's studies uncovered extreme tooth decay as an impediment to success in the...
  47. Re: The Fluoridation Advisory Committee

    The early cost estimates are way more than that. They currently estimate fluoridation of the SCWA drinking water supply to cost the county up to $8.5 million in capital upgrades. Additionally, The...
  48. Re: The Fluoridation Advisory Committee

    I understand what you're saying and please don't be discouraged, I don't think you are. This will probably sound naive, but my personal opinion for now, where I'm coming from -- these people have...
  49. Re: The Fluoridation Advisory Committee

    I wanted people to know how there's another meeting going on behind the scenes. One that is closed. And nested. It's called CHI (Committee for Healthcare Improvement ). It shows Sonoma County...
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