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Hitler and his stormtrooper goons praised the US Eugenics movement one of whose founding members was Planned Parenthood's Margaret Sanger, and used the US model as the inspiration for their Tiergartenstrasse 4 death camp training program where developmentally challenged Germans housed in a half dozen mental institutions, principally Hadamar -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadamar_Euthanasia_Centre were murdered in the backs of Army troop carrier trucks by piping the exhaust gases into the rear compartment and then going for a "drive". ... These are the roots of "Planned Parenthood"....
Not so! Margaret Sanger only advocated depopulation via birth control rather than mass murder. From wikipedia:
Sanger's eugenics policies included an exclusionary immigration policy, free access to birth control methods, and full family planning autonomy for the able-minded, as well as compulsory segregation or sterilization for the "profoundly retarded".[117][118] Sanger wrote, "we [do not] believe that the community could or should send to the lethal chamber the defective progeny resulting from irresponsible and unintelligent breeding."[119] In personal correspondence she expressed her sadness about the aggressive and lethal Nazi eugenics program, and donated to the American Council Against Nazi Propaganda.[118]
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Hey, Richard, you remember a guy named Buckminster Fuller? Geodesic domes, tech guru to the 1960's counter culture? Why is he no longer discussed or even remembered? Could it be because he concluded that humanity, in creating a "design science revolution" (his words) could feed, clothe and house a 1000 fold increase in human population upon the planet? Is that why he was written out of the radical 60's playbook? Have you ever flown over America? How much unpopulated land did you see? Do you understand how technology works? Why has the left been turned into technophobic marionettes? Does anyone have any idea of the power of technology to transform the planet from a dog eat dog world of Malthusian conflict? Do you know who Thomas Malthus was and what sort of ideological neo Darwinist proto Nazi clap trap he entranced the 18th century intelligentsia with? Let me encourage you to Google this term - "useless bread gobbler". Get back to me on what you find.
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So are you against today's Planned Parenthood? Do you agree that human population explosion all over the world is a serious threat, not only to human survival, but to the other species? What else but widespread use of birth control is going to reverse this catastrophic trend?
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Sanger came under pressure to resynthesize and sanitize some of her previous work when WWII rolled around. Yet she and her associates cannot shake off the stink of Malthusian and Social Darwinist plantation breeder proto-Nazism. There is just too much evidence documented in print from her own mouth that she was privy to neanderthal Nietschiean race purification schematics. It's a hard nut to swallow for leftists and progressives whose blood ties to reproductive freedom refuse to entrain the fruits of European ubermenschian colonial racism. This shit can't be whitewashed any longer. This is the goddamned Age of Info and all you need to destroy the psychosis of culturally rationalized and reified and sublimated sadism is a MOUSE CLICK AWAY. Anyone can do it and that's why this epoch in history is aptly named "Endgame". In the words of Zen jack in the box Alan Watts, "This is it, this is really it".
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Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, has an ignoble legacy as a racist who addressed the Ku Klux Klan and initiated a Negro Project to reduce the population of poor, uneducated African Americans whom she considered unfit to reproduce themselves. This Margaret Sanger—the real Margaret Sanger—is completely whitewashed in Parenthood propaganda, which deceitfully portrays Sanger as a champion of reproductive “choice.”
Even more incriminating than Sanger’s racism, however, is her close association with Nazism. Sanger was part of a community of American progressives who championed two remedies to get rid of “unfit” populations. The first was forced sterilization, which was Sanger’s preferred solution.
Sanger wanted to make it look like the sterilizations were voluntary. In a 1932 article, Sanger called for women to be segregated from the larger community onto “farms and homesteads” where they would be “taught to work under competent instructors” and prevented from reproducing “for the period of their entire lives.” If the women didn’t want to live this way, they could get out of it by consenting to be sterilized.2
The other progressive solution was “euthanasia,” which basically involved killing off the sick, the aged, and the physically and mentally disabled. One of Sanger’s colleagues, the California progressive Paul Popenoe, called for “lethal chambers” so that large numbers of “unfit” people could be systematically lined up and killed.3
The Nazis learned about these American programs, and enthusiastically adopted them. As Edwin Black documents in his book The War Against the Weak, the Nazi sterilization law of 1933 and the subsequent Nazi euthanasia laws were both based on blueprints drawn up by Sanger, Popenoe and other American progressives.4
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Gain-of-function mutation: A mutation that confers new or enhanced activity on a protein. Loss-of-function mutations, which are more common, result in reduced or abolished protein function.
And here's more than you ever wanted to know, Occi: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK285579/
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I don't understand what you mean by "gain of function" research and the rest of what you are saying here.
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Gain-of-function mutation: A mutation that confers new or enhanced activity on a protein. Loss-of-function mutations, which are more common, result in reduced or abolished protein function.
And here's more than you ever wanted to know, Occi: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK285579/
When it comes to Virology as it is practiced in BSL-4 {Bioweapons} Labs, '"gain-of-function research" has a somewhat more sinister meaning, wisewomn. Here is the definition, gleaned from the link you yourself provided. Remember * ?
"...Josh Rogin, in the article in the Washington Post fleshes out a little more detail about the nature of “gain-of-function research” :
"The research was designed to prevent the next SARS-like pandemic by anticipating how it might emerge. But even in 2015, other scientists questioned whether Shi’s team was taking unnecessary risks. In October 2014, [under Obama, ed.] the U.S. government had imposed a moratorium on funding of any research that makes a virus more deadly or contagious, known as “gain-of-function” experiments."
Get that? I'll repeat it again, in case you somehow missed the meaning:
"...any research that makes a virus more deadly or contagious, known as “gain-of-function” experiments."
Zen Koan: "There is none so blind as he/she who will not see."
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What most Americans know today about world war two could be fit into a very small envelope but the facts are there for all those inquiring minds. From the top though we must understand that the US had everything to do with creating and forming the NAZI's. Then when the war was over all the main brains of the fascists went to the Pentagon and Nasa. Everything.
This 3HOUR DOCUMENTARY will help you understand who we are as a country and how we have gotten to this place and why anytime the mass media or the government is hyping something we can be assured that their is true evil afoot. Get your info snak on here (video on right)
There is no reason to believe that the USG has not created and manipulated virus strains. There is also no credible reason not to also hold that the Corona is a mental virus laid over the top of the regular flu season and then weaponized with salacious word soup utilized by the media programming. This particular virus which everyone here in west country has most assuredly been exposed to in the late part of last year or early Jan. There is no way to stop such a pandemic with the way it was done. There can be no essential services. There can be no one anywhere doing anything. Think about the money exchanging hands all day and then wonder why you need this fucking mask.
My best guess is that wall street had created such a massive bubble since 2008 that the only way not to collapse the US economy and send people into a gun tottin revolution was to have this virus as a soft landing. In order to reset the US and entire world economy after the feeding frenzy of the last 11 years by the same people that brought us 911 have presented us with this fun and satisfying way of living out the worlds worst financial collapse since 1932 and you are still driving around with your mask on your face in your own car thinking how clever you are.
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...The power elite have been plotting and planning to depopulate the planet for a long time. They are the ones who have been spouting that anti-life rhetoric for the past fifty years. Their “Plan” is now in full swing. The plutocrats are busy, working for a neo-feudal future.
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Oh, come on, M-man. Tell that to the thousands of other species that are going or have gone extinct because of human encroachment on their habitats and human pollution. All that available land that you go on about is already in use by non-humans. It's not just about H. sap, you know.
Further, I think that this enthusiasm for a big secret conspiracy orchestrated by elites is just one more example of human arrogance--the need to believe that these calamities are under the control of other human beings, rather than being the natural consequences of our collective selfishness and unconsciousness. The Malthusian Doctrine still holds true, like it or not.
Finally, what purpose does it serve, even if your conspiracy theory were correct, to prate on and on about it? Does it give you a puffed-up sense of self-importance to believe you are privy to some special knowledge not available to everyone? I never see any solutions or remedies offered up or enacted by all you True Believers. If there aren't any, if nothing can be done, then why bother to go on about it? Do you want to sit back and let someone else deal with it, while you wag your fingers and say, "I told you so?"
Shades of Chicken Little.
I realize that I have to deal with this because I passed on it before. And I passed on it because I perceived a certain amount of nastiness in it that I did not want to address. I’d rather not be combative, and contend with others on an adversarial footing. –And because it really requires an essay to answer all of the points you made, wisewomn.
In the first place, please don’t slur my ‘handle’ “Mayacaman.” You may call me by my name, which is Mark. Jefferson Donley aka, “cyberanvil” did that, and he was distinctly an adversary – not only to me, but to everyone else, in general, on WaccoBB.net.
I shall address your points one by one: Who have been the arbiters of the extinction of the many species that are going extinct on our Green Planet, Terra?
Answer: the capitalist owners of the industrial and substance cartels who have heedlessly polluted the Air, the forests, the hills, the plains, the Ocean, rivers and waterways with horrific pollution for the past two hundred years. Are we in agreement on this point?
And Who are these capitalists who own the means of production and have acquired monopolies over Coal, Oil, Iron, Tin, Tungsten, Gold, Silver, & Diamonds, etc.? –The same “power elite” who are now busy executing their Plan to depopulate the Earth of “useless eaters” i.e., humans.
Now you may not like this thesis. You may call it a “conspiracy theory.” You already have. Yet it is well documented that this is the Plan of the Power Elite. It isn’t a secret. They don’t even take the trouble to hide it. It is all out in the open. But naïve souls like you choose not to see the writing on the wall.
And, as far as the nearly one quarter billion acres of “Public Domain” that I “go on about [that] is already in use by non-humans” all that I was suggesting on the Open Committee Towards Solutions on the Homeless Crisis thread was that there is ample space in North America for the Homeless to be housed.
Perhaps you think that the Homeless should be allowed to “die off” on account of “natural selection”? That is precisely the Plan of the oligarchs. I suggest that you have unconsciously imbibed the morality of the Oppressors. Franz Fanon wrote about this phenomenon. He called it ”internalizing owns own oppression.”
“Further, I think that this enthusiasm for a big secret conspiracy orchestrated by elites is just one more example of human arrogance--the need to believe that these calamities are under the control of other human beings, rather than being the natural consequences of our collective selfishness and unconsciousness. The Malthusian Doctrine still holds true, like it or not.”
It really does all boil down to the Question of whether Covid-19 is a Bio-weapon or not. After examining much of the evidence, I have come to the conclusion that it is a Bio-weapon. -Which is an Idea and concept that evidently is too painful and difficult for a lot of liberals to grasp. They'd rather believe that it is "Nature's Revenge" for our collective heedlessness.
I must say in my own defense that I resent being called a “conspiracy theorist” - as Barry has repeatedly insinuated and pro-actively done - quarantining my posts, and isolating me from public discourse in this forum. Because I am not such an one. I hate and despise the term.
And when you, wisewomn say, “…I think that this enthusiasm for a big secret conspiracy orchestrated by elites is just one more example of human arrogance…” you are in effect showing your ignorance – and it is willful disregard – for the facts as they relate to the Bio-warfare Programs of the major powers.
“The Malthusian Doctrine still holds true, like it or not.” So, you are at heart a Malthusian? - an interesting confession. Do you have any Idea at all what Malthusianism entails? –And who Thomas Malthus actually was – and how his “doctrine” is the justification for the “culling of the herd” that is now underway? I think not.
“Finally, what purpose does it serve, even if your conspiracy theory were correct, to prate on and on about it? Does it give you a puffed-up sense of self-importance to believe you are privy to some special knowledge not available to everyone? I never see any solutions or remedies offered up or enacted by all you True Believers. If there aren't any, if nothing can be done, then why bother to go on about it? Do you want to sit back and let someone else deal with it, while you wag your fingers and say, "I told you so?" Shades of Chicken Little”
My “conspiracy theory” - wow. Again, it isn’t a “conspiracy theory.” It is a conspiracy fact. And the “elites” are doing it all out in the open. Just look at the “Table Top Exercise” they conducted in October in New York City – “Event 201.” It can all be accessed on the Internet these days –as Walter Alter put it, “just a mouse-click away.”
They know they can get away with it because they have long since successfully brainwashed most {demographically, let’s just say, the majority} of the masses into herd acceptance of what they hear on the Main Stream Media...
As far as my “prating on and on about it” - I am merely amassing a body of evidence. That is all. The West County public may do with it what each of them, individually choose to do. For my part, I am speaking truth to power = “Blows against the Empire,” so to speak. You yourself know well that, as Paul Simon said, “a man (or womn) hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest…”
Now, I know that the World despises Christians. –So much is obvious. In the world today, there is a vast harvest of Christians who are being made Martyrs – hundreds of thousands of “Believers” are being killed for their confession. Did you know that?
But I don’t call myself a “True Believer.” I don’t go to church. I am not a member of any Christian club. And by many fundamentalists -and Orthodox- I have been told, in the course of my life, over the past fifty years, that I am a “heretic.”
That is because I believe (having seen a vision of Her on July 3, 1968,) that the “Holy Spirit” is “SOPHIA” –(i.e., feminine.) That’s a “heresy” to the bulk of confessing “Christians.” Furthermore, I am a “Christian” who favors the Tao de Ching and who believes that the “Tao” of Lao Tzu is synonymous with the “Logos” of the Gospel. -That the One who Lao Tzu called the "Tao" was the pre-incarnated Being who six centuries later 'tabernacled' in the Body of Christ. And to ‘fundamentalists’ that, also, is “heresy.”
So, Please, wisewomn, don’t put me into some stupid box, the better to define who you think I am. This one ( i ) refuse(s) to be categorized. And I strenuously disagree that belief in God and the tendency to “believe in conspiracy theories” are somehow part of the same dementia – which is, quite evidently, an article of your own personal ‘faith’ – along with a belief in ‘the truth of the Malthusian doctrine.’
Incidentally, caromia 333, who gave you gratitude for your post, has also seen a vision of the LORD, Jesus Christ, in her little life. I happen to know this for a fact. She saw Him in the immediate aftermath of a fatal car accident in the Colorado Rockies, back in the 1970's. -An accident which killed one (or two) of her friends and in which she was the only unscathed party. I wonder if she shares that Vision with anyone these days.
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Hi infojockey! I appreciate your scholarship, but I just have to say that the idea of a 1000-fold increase in human population upon the planet is my idea of total horror and disaster! The "unpopulated land" you speak of is actually populated by wonderful living plants and non-human animals whom I love and do not wish to harm. The Earth's current human population is to a large degree a scene of ecological catastrophe, trash, poverty, and warfare!
I think you and I just have a very different vision of what a bright future for the world would consist of. I do harbor some hope at least that over time humanity will evolve emotionally and culturally to a point where most people will cooperate for the good of all instead of running roughshod over each other, as is too often the case at present.
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Why would the Master Capitalists want to eliminate large portions of the population? Wouldn't they want to encourage population growth so as to grow bigger and bigger markets for their products?
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I direct anyone who finds it needful to delegitimize "conspiracy theory" to the 1975 Senate Church Committee hearings that revealed the secret mind fuckery programs of the CIA - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee ANY person or entity involved with a program or action requiring secrecy is a CONSPIRATOR engaged in a CONSPIRACY. Conspiracy is as common as dirt, used by everyone on a daily basis. The problem arises when MY conspiracy theory does not coincide with YOUR conspiracy theory. For those of you who believe that Monsanto is trying to monopolize all agricultural seed production...you are a conspiracy theorist.
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Why would the Master Capitalists want to eliminate large portions of the population? Wouldn't they want to encourage population growth so as to grow bigger and bigger markets for their products?
Richard,
The short answer is that their aim is not money. Their aim is to inaugurate a two-class world system consisting of themselves, the neo-aristocrats, and a manageable population of slaves, the neo-serfs. They have dubbed this system "neo-feudalism." In other words, their motivation is psychological, in the sense of total control, rather than financial. We are dealing with psychopaths. They don't need all these billions of people, only a few hundred million. Much easier to control, much more liberated resources.
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ALL problems of trash production can be solved with technology, particularly the technology of education. When you raise the specter of species extinction you need to examine how "Mother" Nature actually works - 5 near extinction level events that nearly wiped all life off the planet, with an hypothetical 6th event happening 13000 years ago wiping out the Clovis civilization along with over 250 species in North America alone, and causing an ice age.
Migratory patterns and sufficient habitat can be created to protect all species AND increase human population 1000 times. You really have no idea about how much land is available for rational human exploitation. Dune deserts that support no life is a place to start. Vertical cities is another.
Overpopulation is another compulsive fetish fixation that allows the elite to justify the murder of unwanted populations. The Nestle's infant food formula scandal is the tip of that ideological iceberg. This is a Nazi conceptual framework that you and a lot of other people have been propagandized to accept uncritically.
With science and technology there are no limits to growth if done in a scientific and technologically amplified manner. The left's technophobia is an exercise in hypocrisy. If technology is evil, stop using it. If technology is useful but gets itself subverted by evil, then hate the evil, not the technology.
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Hi infojockey! I appreciate your scholarship, but I just have to say that the idea of a 1000-fold increase in human population upon the planet is my idea of total horror and disaster! ...
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Occultist racism. It's that simple.
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Well, at least they're not greedy money-grubbers!
So you think it really doesn't take that many workers to run our world economy--all the food production, science, engineering, invention, manufacturing, distribution, etc, etc, etc ? And even those citizens who are highly educated and aware will just grundle along content in their slavery and kowtowing to the Ubermeisters like cattle?
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The short answer is that their aim is not money. Their aim is to inaugurate a two-class world system consisting of themselves, the neo-aristocrats, and a manageable population of slaves, the neo-serfs. ...
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Huh?
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Occultist racism. It's that simple.
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Yes, mass species extinction! Looks like we're working on it.
I'll be happy to visit you in your charming vertical city apartment in the desert, infojockey, but I have no plans to abandon my redwood forest home.
I don't hate the technology, only the madness of the people who often employ it!
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ALL problems of trash production can be solved with technology, particularly the technology of education. When you raise the specter of species extinction you need to examine how "Mother" Nature actually works - 5 near extinction level events that nearly wiped all life off the planet, with an hypothetical 6th event happening 13000 years ago wiping out the Clovis civilization along with over 250 species in North America alone, and causing an ice age.
Migratory patterns and sufficient habitat can be created to protect all species AND increase human population 1000 times. You really have no idea about how much land is available for rational human exploitation. Dune deserts that support no life is a place to start. Vertical cities is another.
Overpopulation is another compulsive fetish fixation that allows the elite to justify the murder of unwanted populations. The Nestle's infant food formula scandal is the tip of that ideological iceberg. This is a Nazi conceptual framework that you and a lot of other people have been propagandized to accept uncritically.
With science and technology there are no limits to growth if done in a scientific and technologically amplified manner. The left's technophobia is an exercise in hypocrisy. If technology is evil, stop using it. If technology is useful but gets itself subverted by evil, then hate the evil, not the technology.
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...So you think it really doesn't take that many workers to run our world economy--all the food production, science, engineering, invention, manufacturing, distribution, etc, etc, etc ? ...
No, it does not take billions of people to produce food and technology for a couple hundred thousand controllers. The whole enterprise can be scaled back. That's why they call the common people "useless eaters."
The educated and aware are fighting this scourge right now, and are being censored and killed for it. Most people are mentally cattle-like already. If the globalists win, there will be no education, and the common people will be chemically abused to be incapable of higher thought. For example, if the masses trundle in to receive the globally-mandated coronavirus vaccine, their genome will be permanently altered. It's a new generation of vaccines designed to create "new humans" - ostensibly more immunologically robust ones. They're going to change your DNA. It might cause thousands of unwanted mutations though. There have been no safety tests. Feeling lucky? These same people don't breathe a word about vitamin c, D3, zinc, the foundations of a healthy immune system.
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...The power elite have been plotting and planning to depopulate the planet for a long time. They are the ones who have been spouting that anti-life rhetoric for the past fifty years. Their “Plan” is now in full swing. The plutocrats are busy, working for a neo-feudal future.
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Why would the Master Capitalists want to eliminate large portions of the population? Wouldn't they want to encourage population growth so as to grow bigger and bigger markets for their products?
Richard, Sorry for the delay / lag in getting back to you on this. I have been busy looking for a cartoon by the socialist cartoonist, Art Young, from the First World War era that depicted a Capitalist imperiously commanding a young Woman of the working class, "Breed" - I couldn't find it on-line. Unfortunately, I gave the book - which was my grandmother's special treasure - to the Tamiment Library @ NYU after the death of my mother. -Big mistake.
The point being, "Once upon a Time..." the Ruling Class really did want there to be plenty of serfs. This fulfilled the principle of Marx's "reserve army of labor" (i.e., with plenty of plebes around, wages would remain low).
=However=
In the "technatronic era" the power elite really do not need or want to maintain a "reserve army of labor." The new Agenda is to cull the population and depopulate the "useless eaters." - That's a phrase that the Anglo-Norman ruling class actually use to describe the rest of us. Check out the "Georgia Guidestones"
That this notion - of depopulation - was initially discovered by the so-called "Labor Committees" (i.e. the Lyndon LaRouche faction of the former Students for a Democratic Society) in the late 1970's, has tended to place this Idea in the pale of "conspiracy thinking." That is unfortunate - because the notion holds water, and the facts of the matter are well-documented, and irrefutable - except for those who are ideologically immune to anything that they chose to discredit as a "conspiracy theory."
The "National Caucus of Labor Committees" (i.e., LaRouchies) came up with this thesis in the process of reading between the lines in the Book, "The Global 2000 Report to the President: Prospects for the 21st Century" - which was commissioned by president Carter in 1977.
I'll never forget the day that I first became aware of this Agenda of the Super-Rich. During the Summer of 1979, I worked as a Salmon puller on the fishing boat of Nat Bingham out of Noyo Harbor. Nat was an unforgettable character and one of my mentors.
It was a bright, sunny day off of Point Delgado when the Salmon had slipped the fleet, and we were running (@ 16 knots) down to Bodega, where some fisherman had decreed on the mickey mouse (CB) that a new school of Salmon had just arrived from Tahiti in the waters off the West Coast.
Nat set the boat on course, and I, having some time on my hands was able to enjoy the spectacle of a school of porpoises who swam circles around us as we headed down the coast, en route to Bodega. :[That, I will add, as an aside, was one of the most wonderful spectacles I ever was witness to in my little life - to see a pod of porpoises swimming circles around us at forty knots an hour to our sixteen, quite visibly laughing, smiling and leaping in the air as they swam.]:
Nat then turned to me and said "There's something I think I should tell you..."
I'll be brief. Nat said, in short, that, as a member of the Bingham Family (One of "America's Sixty Families") he would go back home to Connecticut every other year or so, and hobnob with his cousins. Cutting to the Chase, what he said was this: 'The power elite have a Plan: in the Future, they want there to be only two Classes: "Alphas" (after Huxley's "Brave New World") and "Drones" (after the social structure of the Bee-hive). "You just watch.. They intend to break the Middle Class until it no longer exists..."
Now that may sound like the script of a novel by Philip K. Dick but, unfortunately, It is so. In the intervening forty years, I have had the time to research this 'notion' and, as I said, it holds water.
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The ruling class oligarchy absolutely has a master plan for humanity and it is not pretty. It is straight up Nazi and more - there is an esoteric Theosophical substrate to it. Nazism was shaped in its early years by several Theosophical spinoffs. Google - Guido Karl Anton List, Hans Horbigger, Lans Von Liebenfels, Dietrich Eckhart, Julius Evola, Savitri Devi. In its essence, Nazism was a RELIGIOUS movement. The Waffen SS had a ritual chamber at Castle Wewelsburg, Himmler's Grail Castle, the planned "Vatican" of the coming Nazi religious upheaval and takeover of the world. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Wewelsburg Berlin was to be the political headquarters of Nazi domination of the world, but Wewelsburg was to become the Religious headquarters of a brutish Nordic Black Magic. Be very glad that Hitler was defeated.
Nazism had fascist followers in all the nations of the world, and the European and some Asian ones had volunteers fighting for Germany. Over a million men from France, Holland, Belgium, Finland, Norway, Spain, Denmark, Hungary, Ukraine, Yugoslavia, Albania, Romania, India, Tibet served in the frontline Wehrmacht and SS. America had the fascist German American Bund and the America First society. England had some 50 or so Brits fighting for the Nazis and the Americans had a couple dozen. Wall St. helped put Hitler in power - Anthony Sutton - "Wall St. and the Rise of Hitler". Hopefully this virus shutdown time will allow aware people to educate themselves about the truths within conspiracy research.
More at www.walteralter.com/psyops.htm
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Wikipedia is so biased and has been found to be inaccurate for years. Emmy award-winning investigative journalist, Sharyl Attkisson, shows how astroturf, or fake grassroots movements funded by political, corporate, or other special interests has very effectively manipulated and distorts messages, including Wikipedia. And it's way worse now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bYA...ture=emb_title
https://reason.com/2014/08/05/what-congress-edited-on-wikipedia-today/
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-27586356
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Not so! Margaret Sanger only advocated depopulation via birth control rather than mass murder. From
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What you have discovered in your research is true. As a progressive I have had more animated and shrill conversations with neo-liberals since Clinton then I ever do with republicans. Just because Trump is the Elephant in the room and he is easy pickings for hatred and scapegoating this still does not prove that he was aided by Russia in the elections, or that the Corona Virus is not a creation of the Pentagon bio weapons program
( https://observer.com/2016/10/wikilea...-help-clinton/ ) or that he is wrong about vaccines.
When one is certain they want to maintain their freedom and liberty from oppressors it is often the time when we find strange bed fellows.
The religious 'right' has stolen the fire of the truth movement with inforwars and other right wing talk shows. They muddle the information with their religious ideas and half baked narratives. As a survivor of 911 with a trauma that continues to this day it is with earnest enthusiasm I wake every day and elevate the ideals of nature, and our place in it. Thus far we have been at constant war with our world and yet it does not give in yet it bends some before it sweeps the offenders and any one else in the path off her emminence our amazing planet. We have been here a very long time on this planet and have been reduced to rabble more than once.
I would not call the people who orchestrate these false flags as 'elites' they are boot licking fascists is perfect of a description as you will ever find.
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Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, has an ignoble legacy as a racist who addressed the Ku Klux Klan and initiated a Negro Project to reduce the population of poor, uneducated African Americans whom she considered unfit to reproduce themselves. This Margaret Sanger—the real Margaret Sanger—is completely whitewashed in Parenthood propaganda, which deceitfully portrays Sanger as a champion of reproductive “choice.”
Even more incriminating than Sanger’s racism, however, is her close association with Nazism. Sanger was part of a community of American progressives who championed two remedies to get rid of “unfit” populations. The first was forced sterilization, which was Sanger’s preferred solution.
Sanger wanted to make it look like the sterilizations were voluntary.... If the women didn’t want to live this way, they could get out of it by consenting to be sterilized.2
The other progressive solution was “euthanasia,” which basically involved killing off the sick, the aged, and the physically and mentally disabled. One of Sanger’s colleagues... called for “lethal chambers” so that large numbers of “unfit” people could be systematically lined up and killed.3
The Nazis learned about these American programs, and enthusiastically adopted them....
there's a misleading bridge in deSouza's article from supporting sterilization to supporting mass murder. That's why he's a clown masquerading as an analyst. He does this a lot. Sure, the positions were different then, as were the ethics. Many of her ideas were abhorrent, especially to modern sensibilities. And Mother Theresa had a very nasty side too, apparently. Lots of discussions here these days when it's necessary to point out these aren't cartoon people, they're real and complex. They have positions we would oppose, but also were starting movements that continue today. Republicans freed the slaves, Democrats were the party of official racism. Things change.
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...Emmy award-winning investigative journalist, Sharyl Attkisson, shows how astroturf, or fake grassroots movements funded by political, corporate, or other special interests has very effectively manipulated and distorts messages, including Wikipedia....
Judy Dragon, you made my day with that phrase, "astroturf." Can I use it? Simply wonderful. Thank you.
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Micheal Chossudovsky is one of the sincerest and smartest political writers we have in the world. I yet to find fault with his research or reasoning.
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Centre for Research on Globalization ("Globalresearch.ca")
In 2001,
Chossudovsky founded the Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG), becoming its editor and director. Located in
Montreal, Quebec, Canada, it describes itself as an "independent research and media organization" that provides "analysis on issues which are barely covered by the mainstream media".
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there's a misleading bridge in deSouza's article from supporting sterilization to supporting mass murder. That's why he's a clown masquerading as an analyst. He does this a lot. Sure, the positions were different then, as were the ethics. Many of her ideas were abhorrent, especially to modern sensibilities. And Mother Theresa had a very nasty side too, apparently. Lots of discussions here these days when it's necessary to point out these aren't cartoon people, they're real and complex. They have positions we would oppose, but also were starting movements that continue today. Republicans freed the slaves, Democrats were the party of official racism. Things change.
Peter, I'm not sure which article by [Dinesh] deSouza you are referring to. I was ignorant of the chap until I saw a book he wrote on sale at Walmart (the Waltons must like him). Since the book cost $19.95, I didn't spring for it, but instead spent about an hour speed-reading the bloody thing.
Since my initial introduction to deSouza -an east Indian who chose to 'make aliyah' in "the Land of the Free"- I have watched a couple-a-three documentaries he produced -with a little help from his "Republican" friends- on Netflicks. Dinesh deSouza, as the Brits say, is a bit of work.
On the one hand, his historical analysis of the so-called "Democratic Party" is spot on. It actually does descend from the Party that was created in 1828 by Andrew Jackson, the Indian killer of the notorious Florida campaign of 1819, and the slave-master of the "Hermitage" plantation outside Nashville. He is correct on this score: the Democrat Party of today is not properly the same entity that Thomas Jefferson founded in 1800.
The Democrat Party of the present was the Party of Slavery, the Confederacy, the Ku Klux Klan, (in 1866 as well as in the revival in 1915) and the corrupt political Machine (e.g., Tammany Hall) & the infamous Daley Machine that our generation came up against in Chicago in '68. That is all true.
Where Dinesh deSouza gets it wrong -in my opinion- is in his blinders & tunnel vision (refusal to see?) the dark side of the Republican Party. -Which, from the beginning in 1856, had a Progressive wing that was anti-Slavery & "Free Soil," but also a Plutocratic wing -Both in Chicago, among the Railroad Men that the Railroad Lawyer, Abraham Lincoln, had represented in Court- & on Wall Street, composed of Bankers and Capitalists.
In Sum, one may say that the Republican Party - from the jump- was not only the Party of the "Union" - it was also the Party of the Union Pacific Railroad Corporation.
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Micheal Chossudovsky is one of the sincerest and smartest political writers we have in the world. I yet to find fault with his research or reasoning.
Ah, but the centrist, Democrat Party, "conspiracy theory" about Michael Chossudovsky, whispered in the corridors of power, and slyly alluded to by the likes of wikipedia, is that he is a "Russian asset."
Q. Are there any "Centrist" "conspiracy theories" * ? *The *Answer *is *a resounding * Yes ! *
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ALERT: California trying to authorize youth brigades to FORCIBLY enter homes, test family members, and FORCIBLY remove those who test positive for covid19!
On May 1, 2020, 45 congress members co-sponsored Bill HR 6666, proposing to spend $100 BILLION dollars in 2020 to hire "contact tracers", coronavirus testers, and reporting agents. If passed, this would create an unprecedented new mega-industry for what appears to be a type of "medical martial law".Proponents of this bill apparently want to hire a massive number of staff to enforce "social distancing", administer tests in our homes — apparently whether we consent or not, and apparently — if we perceive the bill correctly — even grant themselves the right to take people who "test positive" from their homes!The full name of this bill HR 6666 is the "COVID-19 Testing, Reaching, And Contacting Everyone (TRACE) Act".
As many of you know, what is referred to as "contact tracing" is more aptly called Big Brother surveillance.Ventura, California recently announced their own draconian measure threatening to forcibly test and remove people from their homes if "necessary"... though they subsequently backtracked probably due to the massive pushback.As many of us have come to realize (not a comfortable process), there indeed appears to be an agenda to lock humanity into a so-called "new normal" reality of technocratic policing and constant monitoring. Self-appointed technocrats and their organizations appear highly motivated to have us vaccinated and tracked with wireless and, it strongly appears, biometrics.But millions are waking up and sharing information. This is a fight for the soul of humanity, and we're learning what it means to combine love and action.
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That is a serious accusation. The last time I checked, the Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution is still in force.
Exactly WHO in California is trying do do this? HOW is this person or agency trying (as opposed to doing) it? Please cite some reliable sources. Buttar is not a reliable source. I ran a Google search, but it did not turn up anything.
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ALERT: California trying to authorize youth brigades to FORCIBLY enter homes, test family members, and FORCIBLY remove those who test positive for covid19!
https://youtu.be/GGwKoQm5g2o
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That is a serious accusation. The last time I checked, the Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution is still in force. Exactly WHO in California is trying do do this? HOW is this person or agency trying (as opposed to doing) it? Please cite some reliable sources. Buttar is not a reliable source. I ran a Google search, but it did not turn up anything.
H.R. 6666
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...6/text?r=2&s=1
"(a) In general.—The Secretary of Health and Human Services, acting through the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, may award grants to eligible entities to conduct diagnostic testing for COVID–19, to trace and monitor the contacts of infected individuals, and to support the quarantine of such contacts, through— (1) mobile health units; and(2) as necessary, testing individuals and providing individuals with services related to testing and quarantine at their residences."
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Of course we need more personnel to conduct more tests. That's a good thing. Of course you need to trace how the virus has been communicated from person to person. That's a good thing. I don't see anything about your "youth brigades to FORCIBLY enter homes." If people who are infected with the virus refuse to self-quarantine, they may be quarantined against their will. An individual's liberty does not include the right to infect me with their virus.
We have enough to worry about already without trying to inflame the public.
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After reading the wording of this bill (H.R.6666) I e-mailed Rep. Mike Thompson, asking him tor reject it when it comes to a vote. it does include going to our homes and it's a staggering amount of money for a country already hugely in debt. No one yet, of the 'major players' is talking about staying healthy by building a strong immune system, including natural virus fighters, so as to not be susceptible to this disease. The pharmaceutical response is one, but not our only, option.
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Of course we need more personnel to conduct more tests. That's a good thing. Of course you need to trace how the virus has been communicated from person to person. That's a good thing. I don't see anything about your "youth brigades to FORCIBLY enter homes." If people who are infected with the virus refuse to self-quarantine, they may be quarantined against their will. An individual's liberty does not include the right to infect me with their virus.
We have enough to worry about already without trying to inflame the public.
The tests are useless. They test for genetic material from any coronavirus in any amount. Literally anybody could test positive. In Tanzania, a goat and a papaya tested positive for COVID-19.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...ve/ar-BB13zlQu
No, this test should not be used to "quarantine people against their will."
Obviously, Finnell, this bill is not going to declare "youth bridgades forcibly entering homes." They are a little cleverer than that. They are proposing to "support quarantine" by, "as necessary, testing individuals and providing individuals with services related to testing and quarantine at their residences."
As necessary. So, if it is deemed "necessary," a whole household will be tested without their consent. Since the kit is junk, anybody can test positive. These people will have to be further quarantined, i.e., taken out of their homes and away from their families. How fun! What if your child tests positive?
What if your papaya tests positive?
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Here it is:
H. R. 6666
To authorize the Secretary of Health and Human Services to award grants to eligible entities to conduct diagnostic testing for COVID–19, and related activities such as contact tracing, through mobile health units and, as necessary, at individuals’ residences, and for other purposes.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
May 1, 2020
Mr. Rush (for himself, Ms. Barragán, Ms. Bass, Mr. Beyer, Mr. Brown of Maryland, Mr. Butterfield, Mr. Cárdenas, Mr. Carson of Indiana, Mr. Cohen, Mr. Correa, Mr. Cuellar, Ms. DeGette, Mrs. Demings, Mr. Gonzalez of Texas, Mr. Grijalva, Mr. Hastings, Mrs. Hayes, Mr. Higgins of New York, Ms. Kaptur, Mr. Khanna, Ms. Kuster of New Hampshire, Mr. Larson of Connecticut, Mr. Lynch, Ms. McCollum, Ms. Moore, Ms. Norton, Mr. Payne, Mr. Raskin, Mr. Rouda, Mr. Ryan, Mr. Sarbanes, Ms. Sewell of Alabama, Mr. Sires, Mr. Soto, Ms. Tlaib, Mr. Thompson of Mississippi, Mr. Van Drew, Ms. Velázquez, Ms. Wasserman Schultz, and Mrs. Napolitano) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce
A BILL
To authorize the Secretary of Health and Human Services to award grants to eligible entities to conduct diagnostic testing for COVID–19, and related activities such as contact tracing, through mobile health units and, as necessary, at individuals’ residences, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. Short title.
This Act may be cited as the “COVID–19 Testing, Reaching, And Contacting Everyone (TRACE) Act”.
SEC. 2. COVID–19 testing and contact tracing using mobile health units.
(a) In general.—The Secretary of Health and Human Services, acting through the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, may award grants to eligible entities to conduct diagnostic testing for COVID–19, to trace and monitor the contacts of infected individuals, and to support the quarantine of such contacts, through—
(1) mobile health units; and
(2) as necessary, testing individuals and providing individuals with services related to testing and quarantine at their residences.
(b) Permissible uses of funds.—A grant recipient under this section may use the grant funds, in support of the activities described in subsection (a)—
(1) to hire, train, compensate, and pay the expenses of individuals; and
(2) to purchase personal protective equipment and other supplies.
(c) Priority.—In selecting grant recipients under this section, the Secretary shall give priority to—
(1) applicants proposing to conduct activities funded under this section in hot spots and medically underserved communities; and
(2) applicants that agree, in hiring individuals to carry out activities funded under this section, to hire residents of the area or community where the activities will primarily occur, with higher priority among applicants described in this paragraph given based on the percentage of individuals to be hired from such area or community.
(d) Distribution.—In selecting grant recipients under this section, the Secretary shall ensure that grants are distributed across urban and rural areas.
(e) Federal privacy requirements.—Nothing in this section shall be construed to supersede any Federal privacy or confidentiality requirement, including the regulations promulgated under section 264(c) of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (Public Law 104–191; 110 Stat. 2033) and section 543 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 290dd–2).
(f) Definitions.—In this section:
(1) The term “eligible entity” means—
(A) a Federally qualified health center (as defined in section 1861(aa) of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1395x(aa)));
(B) a school-based health clinic;
(C) a disproportionate share hospital (as defined under the applicable State plan under title XIX of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1396 et seq.) pursuant to section 1923(a)(1)(A) of such Act (42 U.S.C. 1396r–4));
(D) an academic medical center;
(E) a nonprofit organization (including any such faith-based organization);
(F) an institution of higher education (as defined in section 101 of the Higher Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 1001));
(G) a high school (as defined in section 8101 of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 7801)); or
(H) any other type of entity that is determined by the Secretary to be an eligible entity for purposes of this section.
(2) The term “emergency period” has the meaning given to that term in section 1135(g)(1)(B) of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1320b–5(g)(1)(B)).
(3) The term “hot spot” means a geographic area where the rate of infection with the virus that causes COVID–19 exceeds the national average.
(4) The term “medically underserved community” has the meaning given to that term in section 799B of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 295p).
(5) The term “Secretary” means the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
(g) Authorization of appropriations.—To carry out this section, there are authorized to be appropriated-
(1) $100,000,000,000 for fiscal year 2020; and
(2) such sums as may be necessary for each of fiscal year 2021 and any subsequent fiscal year during which the emergency period continues.
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I did a little research into the Congressmen & Congresswomen who are the co-sponsors of this Bill, and it is not a bi-partisan Bill; they are all Members of the Democrat Party - with the exception of Rep Jefferson Van Drew of New Jersey -who was a Democrat up until the Impeachment trial of Donald Trump. Curiously, they all seem to think of themselves as "progressives" !
Go figure...
Here is a list of the sponsors of HR.6666 :
Mr. Rush (D.) Ms. Barragán (D.) Ms. Bass (D.) Mr. Beyer (D.) Mr. Brown of Maryland, (D.) Mr. Butterfield (D.) Mr. Cárdenas (D.) Mr. Carson of Indiana (D.) Mr. Cohen (D.) Mr. Correa, (D.) Mr. Cuellar, (D.) Ms. DeGette,(D.) Mrs. Demings(D.) Mr. Gonzalez of Texas (D.) Mr. Grijalva (D.) Mr. Hastings (D.) Mrs. Hayes (D.) Mr. Higgins of New York (D.) Ms. Kaptur (D.) Mr. Ro Khanna, Calif. (D.) Ms. Kuster of New Hampshire (D.) Mr. Larson, Connecticut (D.) Mr. Lynch (D.) Ms. McCollum (D.) Ms. Moore(D.) Ms. Norton (D.) Mr. Payne (D.) Mr. Raskin (D.) Mr. Harley Rouda (D.) Mr. Tim Ryan (D.) Mr. Sarbanes (D.) Ms. Sewell, Alabama,(D.) Mr. Sires(D.) Mr.Soto (D.) Ms. Tlaib (D.) Mr. Thompson, Mississippi (D.) Mr. Jefferson Van Drew (R.) Ms. Velázquez (D.) Ms. Wasserman Schultz (D.) Mrs. Napolitano (D.)
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It is not so funny that these Series of Sixes keep Showing up.
What do you think are the odds of that? Here is the Microsoft
Corporation Patent that fulfills the Mark of the Beast
:
1. WO2020060606 - CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA
CLAIMS
1. A cryptocurrency system, comprising:
one or more processors; and
memory storing executable instructions that, if executed by the one or more processors, configure the cryptocurrency system to:
communicate with a device of a user;
receive body activity data which is generated based on body activity of the user, wherein the body activity is sensed by a sensor communicatively coupled to or comprised in the device of the user;
verify if the body activity data of the user satisfies one or more conditions set by the cryptocurrency system; and
award cryptocurrency to the user whose body activity data is verified.
2. The system of claim 1, wherein the body activity sensed by the sensor comprises at least one of body radiation emitted from the user, body fluid flow, a brain wave, pulse rate or body heat radiation.
3. The system of claim 1, wherein the one or more conditions are set based on an amount of human body activity associated with a task which is provided to the device of the user.
4. The system of one of claims 1-3, wherein the body activity data is generated using a hash algorithm converting human body activity into an encryption output, and the generated body activity data comprises a hash of the sensed body activity of the user.
5. The system of one of claims 1-3, wherein the body activity data comprises one or more vectors produced from the body activity sensed by the sensor.
6. The system of one of claims 1-3, wherein the cryptocurrency system awards the cryptocurrency to the user by generating a block for the awarded cryptocurrency and adding the block to a blockchain stored in the cryptocurrency system.
7. The system of claim 6, wherein the block comprises data comprising:
a task provided to the device of the user;
information on the awarded cryptocurrency;
a hash associated with the body activity; and
a hash of a previous block.
8. The system of claim 3, wherein the task provided to the device of the user comprises a test for verifying if the user of the device is human or not.
9. The system of claim 4, wherein the cryptocurrency system is configured to:
receive, from the device of the user, data of the body activity generated before the hash algorithm is applied and the hash of the body activity;
rehash the data of the body activity; and
compare the rehashed data with the hash of the body activity received from the device of the user to verify the body activity data.
10. A computer-implemented method, comprising:
receiving, by a device of a user coupled to a network, a task over the network; sensing, by a sensor communicatively coupled to or comprised in the device of the user, body activity of the user;
generating body activity data based on the sensed body activity of the user;
verifying, by a cryptocurrency system communicatively coupled to the device of the user, if the body activity data satisfies one or more conditions set by the
cryptocurrency system; and
awarding, by the cryptocurrency system, cryptocurrency to the user whose body activity data is verified.
11. The method of claim 10, wherein the body activity sensed by the sensor comprises at least one of body radiation emitted from the user, body fluid flow, a brain wave, pulse rate or body heat radiation.
12. The method of claim 10, wherein the one or more conditions are set by the cryptocurrency system based on an amount of human body activity associated with the task provided to the device of the user.
13. The method of one of claims 10-12, wherein the body activity data is generated using a hash algorithm converting human body activity into an encryption output, and the generated body activity data comprises a hash of the sensed body activity of the user.
14. The method of one of claims 10-12, wherein the body activity data comprises one or more vectors produced from the body activity sensed by the sensor.
15. The method of claim 13, further comprising:
receiving, by the cryptocurrency system, from the device of the user, data of the body activity generated before the hash algorithm is applied and the hash of the body activity;
rehashing, by the cryptocurrency system, the data of the body activity; and comparing, by the cryptocurrency system, the rehashed data with the hash of the body activity received from the device of the user to verify the body activity data.
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H.R. 6666
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...6/text?r=2&s=1
"(a) In general.—The Secretary of Health and Human Services, acting through the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, may award grants to eligible entities to conduct diagnostic testing for COVID–19, to trace and monitor the contacts of infected individuals, and to support the quarantine of such contacts, through— (1) mobile health units; and(2) as necessary, testing individuals and providing individuals with services related to testing and quarantine at their residences."
ok, does this require reading between the lines, the same way you have to read Agenda21 if you really want to know what you're in for? because the bit about youth brigades with home-invasion rights is a bit too subtle for me to see.
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Many readers may debunk "Natural News", but I think it does have some value. I'm posting this recent article about the coming military "mandated vaccines". Since first hearing about COVID 19, I intuitively felt that it was planned bio-warfare, and that we would be forced to get vaccinations, which would profit BigPharma, Bill Gates, et al, and encourage the masses to feel "safe".
This article indicates that this is coming soon,
"Dept. of Defense purchasing 500 million ApiJect syringes to inject every person in America with coronavirus vaccine"
Natural News) Anyone who thought the US military was preparing to force vaccinate every American with a coronavirus vaccine has just found strong evidence to confirm the plan. According to a press release from the US Dept. of Defense, featuring an announcement from Lt. Col. Mike Andrews, the DoD is partnering with HHS to acquire 500 million ApiJect vaccine injection devices, with deliveries expected to begin in October of this year.
According to the press release:
Spearheaded by the DOD’s Joint Acquisition Task Force (JATF), in coordination with the HHS Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response, the contract will support “Jumpstart” to create a U.S.-based, high-speed supply chain for prefilled syringes beginning later this year by using well-established Blow-Fill-Seal (BFS) aseptic plastics manufacturing technology, suitable for combatting COVID-19 when a safe and proven vaccine becomes available.
The ApiJect syringes come with an optional RFID tag so that health care workers can track the GPS location and identity of the individual being injected. Via the Apiject.com website:
With an optional RFID/NFC tag on each BFS prefilled syringe, ApiJect will make this possible. Before giving an injection, the healthcare worker will be able to launch a free mobile app and “tap” the prefilled syringe on their phone, capturing the NFC tag’s unique serial number, GPS location and date/time. The app then uploads the data to a government-selected cloud database. Aggregated injection data provides health administrators an evolving real-time “injection map.”
Yes, you will be tracked, tagged, bagged and injected, most likely against your will.
Don’t forget that this is being married with President Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed” which aims to bypass all the usual protocols of vaccine safety testing and clinical trials, delivering up to 300 million coronavirus vaccine doses before the end of calendar 2020."
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-05-...ringes-coronav
Do you feel safer, knowing that this is the plan to "protect" you and your loved ones?
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Maybe I'm just dense, Shandi, but I don't read anything particularly sinister in this article.
If covid 19 was "planned biowarfare," why has it spread all over the world? What would the military advantage be in making everybody sick? Was it a matter of a weapon getting out of control and attacking aggressor as well as intended victim?
I also do not understand the people who are paranoid about vaccinations. I'm so grateful that I've never had to suffer the terrible diseases that used to ravage the world and that my various vaccinations were invented to protect me from! The average life span has increased dramatically since vaccinations became widespread. I've made it to 80 and I'd probably be dead by now were it not for vaccines. .
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Jeez, Mark, this stuff is way too dense for my tiny brain!
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It is not so funny that these Series of Sixes keep Showing up.
What do you think are the odds of that? Here is the Microsoft
Corporation Patent that fulfills the Mark of the Beast
:
1. WO2020060606 - CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA
CLAIMS
1. A cryptocurrency system, comprising:
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...I also do not understand the people who are paranoid about vaccinations. I'm so grateful that I've never had to suffer the terrible diseases that used to ravage the world and that my various vaccinations were invented to protect me from! ...
Richard, you have never been saved by a vaccine. Lower incidences of infectious diseases is due to better living standards, diet, and hygiene. Vaccines are exempt from phase 1 trials, human safety tests. They kill, paralyze and brain damage hundreds of thousands per year, primarily children. Vaccine manufacturers are exempt from damages caused by their products. Did you understand that? Vaccines are untested, and their manufacturers not liable for damages. The Federal government pays put 1 billion dollars per year to vaccine victims. That is how much damage is caused. This is taxpayer money. We pay for it.
You have probably had neurological and immunological damage from vaccines. They have never saved you from anything.
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Jeez, Mark, this stuff is way too dense for my tiny brain!
This is describing implantable microchips that circulate in your bloodstream and monitor your functions. They digitally store a currency which is automatically paid to you when you perform a job. So if you are tasked with, say, administering a Covid test to a community member, the chips will watch you do it, and pay you when it is done. You would be turned into a kind of computer terminal that follows orders from a master terminal. Your finances could be frozen for doing anything unwanted by the controllers of this technology.
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The proposed coronavirus vaccine will skip both human AND animal testing. It is really flying blind. It will permanently rewrite the human genome. Thousands of unwanted side effects are expected. Manufacturers are still exempt from responsibility. And if Bill Gates gets his way, everyone on the planet will be required by law to take it. He estimates 700,000 will perish or be crippled
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This is describing implantable microchips that circulate in your bloodstream and monitor your functions. ...
well, you could also end up enslaved by jackbooted brownshirts who follow their orange master. I think that's more likely, frankly.
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It depends on who wants to permanently alter your biology to make you incapable of refusal.
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well, you could also end up enslaved by jackbooted brownshirts who follow their orange master. I think that's more likely, frankly.
It need not be an Either/Or situation in this case, podfish / Peter. There is the potential - in the very near future - for Both/And.
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I have never been saved by a vaccine? Vaccination has nothing to do with the huge decrease in communicable diseases that has occurred over the last 100 years? How do you know all this, amayon? So do you think all the doctors I have known over the years who believe in vaccination are just ignorant, or shills of the vaccine manufacturers? But you somehow know more than they do?
On the other side, I know a man who says that not just one but two of his children died after being vaccinated! So I keep an open mind in regard to the possibility that sometimes things can indeed go wrong.
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Maybe I'm just dense, Shandi, but I don't read anything particularly sinister in this article.
If covid 19 was "planned biowarfare," why has it spread all over the world? What would the military advantage be in making everybody sick? Was it a matter of a weapon getting out of control and attacking aggressor as well as intended victim?...
Richard, Once Again: The so-called "Plan" of the Anglo-Norman, trans-Atlantic ruling class {oligarchy / plutocracy / power elite} - or whatever one chooses to call the bâtards - is to depopulate the whole planet. They intend to "prune" -or "cull" the current population of the Earth from the present number, @ 7.8 Billion down to a 'manageable' half Billion (500,000,000.) Again, Check out the "Georgia Guidestones."
And it need not be an Either/Or question of a Chinese versus an Anglo-Amerikan Bio-weapon. There is also the ontological possibility of a Joint Chinese - American "Oligarchal Project" {i,e, "White" & "Yellow" Oligarchs} to prune back the Global population and shrink it by roughly 93%. Anyway, this is no secret; the Information is all out there - from the horses' mouths (See below*) - & has been for years. Click on the links.
As I wrote, earlier on this thread (Post #56):
https://waccobb.net/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Mayacaman wrote: https://www.waccobb.net/forums/image...post-right.png
...The power elite have been plotting and planning to depopulate the planet for a long time. They are the ones who have been spouting that anti-life rhetoric for the past fifty years. Their “Plan” is now in full swing. The plutocrats are busy, working for a neo-feudal future.
Please Thad, get over the thought that '...7.8 billion people on the planet are too many...' -As a thought /meme, It is not original with you; it has been implanted in your mind through repetition and auto-suggestiion. "
https://waccobb.net/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Goat Rock Ukulele wrote: https://www.waccobb.net/forums/image...post-right.png
Are you saying you believe this pandemic is a planed depopulation operation by an ultra wealthy cabal? Can you name some names? "
Sure, Goat Rock Ukelele, Glad to oblige. I would start with the Bloody Queen, the current Säxe-Côburg-Götha occupant of the Throne of Great Britain - and her Nazi spouse & Consort, Prince Philip. They're the ones who own the patent to this damned thing. They want to depopulate the "useless eaters" of the planet. They and their bloody "Club of the Isles" cohorts in Great Britain. I don't know the names of all of them, and I surmise it would be hard to find all their names. -Much like finding the roster of the stockholders of the "Class A," i.e., the "Preferred Stock" of the Prime Banks of the G-7 would be. I defy anyone to do that.
In Amerika - this side of the 'Pond' - the North Amerikan cohorts of the "Pilgrims Society" & the Rhodes Trust also buy into this depopulation scheme. In the early decades of the Twentieth Century, this Ideology was known as "Eugenics." None of the bare-bones facts surrounding this reality is hidden. Like everything else about this plague, it is quite Real. If it is hiding, it is hiding in the Open.
And, while I have yet to find a laundry list of the names of all of the Plutes who are privy to the "Plan" here is a list of dirty Corporations: https://www.fbcoverup.com/docs/libra...ar-19-2020.pdf
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I did a small job for a couple here in Santa Rosa about 30 years ago. They were anti vaccine trying to to the best for their only child. They did not give the child the polio vaccine. He got polio and a very bad case of it. The light had to be limited in the house, he would never walk and his body was kind of a round ball. About 10 years later one of my best friends was going the no vaccine route with her daughter. I was able to talk the wife into giving her the polio vaccine. If you care about your kids might want to put your suspicion of tradition aside, read the actual studies and not some internet RFK junior BS and protect them.
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How do you know all these things, amayon??
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It is not so funny that these series of sixes keep showing up.
What do you think are the odds of that? Here is the microsoft
corporation patent that fulfills the mark of the beast
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1. Wo2020060606 - cryptocurrency system using body activity data
I'd just like to pose the Question =AGAIN=
-And ask if there are any mathematicians or statisticians
in the house who could run the odds on the likeliness of this.
What Are the Odds ?
Is this not some kind of Sign ?
Wake up
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Polio had been declining since the late 1800s due to improved hygiene and nutrition. When the Salk polio vaccine was introduced in the mid '50s, polio was renamed "non-polio acute flaccid paralysis," and voila, polio numbers dropped dramatically. "Non-polio acute flaccid paralysis" carried on. That is what polio is. Acute flaccid paralysis. The success was of the vaccine was an illusion created by a semantical publicity stunt.
In medical school, doctors to incredible pressure and brainwashing. They spend most of their time studying pharmacology and comparatively little studying biology. They spend almost no time studying nutrition. It is not part of the business they are being prepared for. Their school is funded by a combination of pharmaceutical companies and these companies dictate its curricula. Students are trained to prescribe drugs and surgery. They know little or nothing else. Many medical doctors cannot tell you which vitamins and minerals are essential. Essential means you die with out them.
If you would not visit Walmart's website to find out whether Walmart commits crimes, you should not ask a conventional medical doctor whether vaccines damage people. The financial gain for vaccinating patients, and the professional penalties for speaking against vaccination, are sufficient to break most M.D.'s minds in half. They aggressively push vaccination, even though many of them personally witness atrocious results. Some of these results also occur weeks or months after the shot, so there is a plausible deniability for the doctor who gave it. They will deny that the paralysis, brain damage, or death that happened a few weeks later, had anything to do with the vaccine, even though hundreds of thousands of people die or are crippled inexplicably, in the weeks following a shot.
Here is a detailed documentary on the effects of vaccine, the effects on the ground. Remember that $1 billion is paid annually to those maimed and their families. That's a lot of money. It's a lot of damage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4N8...ature=youtu.be
Goat Rock Ukulele, your story proves nothing. Vaccines don't work. People often get the disease they were vaccinated for, or even get it from the vaccine itself. What that child should have had was comprehensive nutritional support for his immune system. It is tragic that he got polio. If you go and read pharmaceutically-sponsored research, and are awed by the authority with which it is delivered, you will end up dead, and so will your family. If you care about your kids, get smart about the immune system, support it with proper nutrition, the 90 essential nutrients, and let it build its antibodies. Do not submit them to a shot with a dozen toxins that have no place in medicine. That's not how healing works.
Here's Bill Gates admitting he's going to kill or maim three quarters of a million people. Of course this is his public estimate. The real number will be much higher.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/w...m-his-vaccine/
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Hi Alexander,
I am writing this reply for the benefit of others, so they will not be mislead by your misinformation.
On what basis do you say, "Vaccines are exempt from phase 1 trials, human safety tests."? On what basis do you say, "The proposed coronavirus vaccine will skip both human AND animal testing. It is really flying blind. It will permanently rewrite the human genome."? What are your sources that substantiate these non-facts?
I understand that people can disagree about matters of opinion. But these are matters of fact. When you write about an important subject that affects people's health and lives, you owe it to your readers to be careful that your facts are correct.
Developed countries throughout the world require 3 phases of clinical trials to determine whether a vaccine candidate is safe and is effective in conferring immunity from the target pathogen, before a vaccine candidate is approved for general use. I am limiting this description to vaccines, as opposed to medicines.
- Phase I, the first testing in humans, is a very small trial, often under 50 volunteers. Doctors administer a vaccine candidate to healthy volunteers, to determine whether the vaccine is safe and shows preliminary indications of an immune reaction.
- Phase II is also a small trial, perhaps 100 to 500 volunteers. Doctors continue to test for safety. They do broader testing of how well the vaccine confers immunity. The doctors also use this phase to optimize the vaccine's dosage. Sometimes phases I and II are combined. The purpose of these two phases is to assure that the the vaccine is sufficiently safe and effective to justify phase III trials on a much larger number of volunteers.
- Phase III trials typically require thousands of volunteers. A "gold standard" clinical trial is randomized, double-blind, and placebo-controlled.
The first phase I trials of vaccine candidates against SARS-CoV-2 began in March. From what I have read in the news, over a dozen vaccine candidates, using several different vaccine mechanisms, are in phase I or phase II trials. The U.S., by the way, is not one of the leading countries in conducting these clinical trials.
From everything I have read, there is no plan to short-circuit the 3 phases of clinical trials in developing a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2. However, because of the urgency of the situation, the development of a vaccine, which includes clinical trials, is being performed as quickly as is prudent.
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I apologize for being unclear. Vaccines are often exempted from placebo-controlled safety trials, which is the gold standard in medical science. In the test, two vaccinated groups are compared, or a vaccinated group is compared with one given the toxic adjuvant in the vaccine. Thus both groups suffer the same adverse effects, and the study concludes that "no significant difference in outcomes occurred between control and study groups." This is meaningless and provides no measure of safety. It is not a true safety test.The FDA often allows it for vaccines.
The timeline of safety testing for vaccines is often much too short for all the adverse reactions to become apparent, and those reactions that do crop up also are sometimes discredited as unrelated.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/n...ealth-part-iv/
Here is Bill Gates' Inovio vaccine, which will insert a piece of genetic material in the recipients' DNA, thus altering his or her genetic makeup. It is supposed to cause the recipients' cells to manufacture antibodies against the virus.
https://techcrunch.com/2020/04/06/a-...human-testing/
The mRNA-1273 vaccine forces the cell to produce proteins it would not normally produce. These are both another level of invasion of the body by hijacking cell functions and manipulating them artificially.
The dangers of these new vaccinations are catastrophically high, and given the rich history of fraud in the testing and delivery of vaccines I think they should be avoided. I would prefer not to have my genome rewritten by Bill Gates. I also doubt that my cells need to be raped into producing proper antibodies.
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020...d-the-vaccine/
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Thanks for extra clarity, Alex.
ALSO:
VACCINE manufacturers are the ONLY industry legally protected from lawsuits (WHY?)
https://www.newsmax.com/Health/Healt.../18/id/630901/
Additionally, Finell, $4 BILLION++ settlements paid out for VACCINE INJURIES (WHY?)
https://thevaccinereaction.org/2019/...es-and-deaths/
best, Jude
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VACCINE manufacturers are the ONLY industry legally protected from lawsuits (WHY?)
'cuz that's all the republicans could get away with at the time. McConnell is trying really hard to extend that to a lot of other businesses. Holding corporations liable isn't something you can rely on from the government. No need to single out pharma as if it only makes sense as part of some cunning plan.
And there is a logical reason - though the logic is horribly flawed for other reasons. Their product benefits people, but anything medical has risks plus huge costs of development. So it's a carrot to keep them working.
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So, at this time, are there any other industries which are immune from law suits?
Regarding the "huge costs of development", my understanding is that US taxpayers foot the majority of that bill by funding universities, etc. which do the actual development. The results are then patented by corporations which sell the products and reap the profits. Their costs are basically marketing and advertising. True, to the best of your knowledge, or not?
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no,not. But that's the best of my knowledge, which is of course limited. I have had some peripheral connection to people who are/were students, as well as in various parts of the field, both research and commercial, and none of it leads to any surprising conclusions. Academic institutions get public and private funding, have sometimes unsavory connections to profit-making businesses. Businesses have unsavory connections to government which they use to distort the purity of Adam Smith's system, run by invisible hands. And their shouldn't be a health-care "business" anyway. It's a horrible attempt to use techniques which do motivate people to certain ends to achieve other ends. The unintended side-effects aren't worth it.
but no, I don't see anything that you wouldn't expect would happen when you have a bunch of disparate people and organizations interacting, each with its own purposes. They're often cross-purposes, too, which makes it tough to implement a really solid conspiracy.
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...They're often cross-purposes, too, which makes it tough to implement a really solid conspiracy.
The "solid" conspiracy is the appearance of mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, and cancer viruses vaccines, which have as much place in medicine as razor blades have in pie. The "solid" conspiracy is that manufacturers are given special treatment in 1. not really safety testing their vaccines (they would fail), and 2. Indemnifying manufacturers from damages thereby done. What is there to miss? What would you call a pie-maker who is allowed to kill people with razor blades in pies? It is a criminal conspiracy. Your attitude that everything is random and chaotic and that you are smarter for knowing that, has in fact made you miss some really obvious things!
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If pie-makers were not allowed to kill people with razor blades, there would be no pie makers.
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If pie-makers were not allowed to kill people with razor blades, there would be no pie makers.
I thought it was the barber upstairs who killed people with razor blades, and the pie-maker used them as ingredients. I'm sure there was a documentary or something about that a couple of years ago, maybe with Johnny Depp or Angela Lansbury?? I forget the details.
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Your attitude that everything is random and chaotic and that you are smarter for knowing that, has in fact made you miss some really obvious things!
that's a mischaracterization. This isn't a question of being 'smarter' -- the whole IQ thing is a conspiracy anyway by Alfred Binet and Robert Yerkes, and was developed as part of the same system that gave us Margaret Sanger and the Nazi social improvement regime.
You're missing something really obvious. I rarely dispute any of the bits of information (the facts) but instead am objecting to the context you put them in. That's the essence of what makes something a "conspiracy theory" - that it's a Alex-Jones-style array of pins connected by threads of yarn. The whole picture is not a fact. It's a conclusion, a theory that explains the context of the facts. To pick a less politically fraught example, the old PBS show 'Connections' also suffered from this human habit. There are many factors in play, their interaction results in certain outcomes. Many of the people are making conscious efforts to force a particular outcome, others are just unwitting players. Some of the conscious effort do bend things in the desired direction, others are counter-productive. It's helpful to focus on the individual misbehaviors and on the harmful parts of the system, but tying them all together as if it's a grand plan that should be opposed in toto is just distracting. And does not make the critics look smart, it makes them look gullible or at best over-imaginative.
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Hi Alexander,
You were not unclear. You were perfectly clear. You clearly said the following:
- Vaccines are exempt from phase 1 trials.
- Vaccines are exempt from human safety tests.
- The proposed coronavirus vaccine will skip human testing.
You have provided no substantiation for any of these statements. The sources that I cited in my reply to you refute each of these statements that you made.
You should publicly withdraw these statements because you admittedly have no factual basis for them.
Now you make the following new statement: "Vaccines are often exempted from placebo-controlled safety trials." In fact, all of the reported phase 1 and phase 2 clinical trials on SARS-CoV-2 vaccine candidates are placebo-controlled. The trials are described in detail at https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID-19.
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https://waccobb.net/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Mayacaman wrote: https://www.waccobb.net/forums/image...post-right.png
...Ain’t no vaccine gonna come and “save” us. Quite
the opposite -the “vaccination” will contain the microchip.
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I am fairly new to WaccoBB.net. Do you actually believe this, or do you just post this stuff for amusement? Do you believe that a vaccination for the virus will contain a microchip?
Steve Finnell,
I believe that the once famous Donovan, British pop singer from the 'Sixties had a Chorus in the song, "Season of the Witch" that ran, "You've got to pick up every stitch..." So here goes...
Somehow you failed to open the links that were embedded in the text that you included in your Question. Care to do that now, and get back to me and Comment on it...? Specifically this link:
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Here's a little experiment everyone can do that illustrates suppression of the news. Do a Google search on the term "hydrochloroquine success" and then do the same search using Duck Duck Go. Let me know the results of the comparison.
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Microchips are too big to implant using any sort of needle under 1/8" inner diameter which syringe-needle combos are used principally in funeral homes for injecting quarts of formaldehyde into a corpse. Google "microchip" and click the Images tab and you'll see that they require an incision and a special insertion tool. They are NOT going to be inserted during routine vaccination. What you may get with the vaccine is bits of mouse or fetal tissue DNA which could mess with your immune system.
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Logical contradiction: if Vaccine manufacturers are legally protected from lawsuit, how come $4B+ settlements paid out in lawsuits?
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a special 'vaccine court' was established for settlements... don't recall the fine legal distinctions but that's the situation.
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Here's a little experiment everyone can do that illustrates suppression of the news. Do a Google search on the term "hydrochloroquine success" and then do the same search using Duck Duck Go. Let me know the results of the comparison.
By the same token, do a Google Search - but then again, don't...
-Do a DuckDuckGo & a "Gibiru" Search of the words: "CIA" , "Google" & see what you get...
Oh, & BTW {by the way} Use the Brave Browser while you're @ it...
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Technically true, given the old, out-dated technology. But Alas, Now they've got nano-tech "digital tattoos" that will do the job//:
As tattoos continue to become more mainstreamed among certain demographics within society, it should come as little surprise that big pharma is keen to roll out this latest “wearable tech” solution.
To make sure that you’ve had all of your required doses of government mandated vaccines, scientists at MIT have created a new ink which can be embedded in the skin which can be read using a special infra-red smart phone camera app.
Futurism reports…
“The invisible “tattoo” accompanying the vaccine is a pattern made up of minuscule quantum dots — tiny semiconducting crystals that reflect light — that glows under infrared light. The pattern — and vaccine — gets delivered into the skin using hi-tech dissolvable microneedles made of a mixture of polymers and sugar.”
The research groups findings were published this week in the journal Science Translational Medicine.
“In other words, they’ve found a covert way to embed the record of a vaccination directly in a patient’s skin rather than documenting it electronically or on paper — and their low-risk tracking system could greatly simplify the process of maintaining accurate vaccine records, especially on a larger scale.”
“In areas where paper vaccination cards are often lost or do not exist at all, and electronic databases are unheard of, this technology could enable the rapid and anonymous detection of patient vaccination history to ensure that every child is vaccinated,” said MIT researcher Kevin McHugh.
More interesting though is how useful this new technology will be from a corporate point of view, downstream tech such as this will make production and distribution more efficient upstream, as vaccine manufactures can more efficiently identify who needs which product.
Essentially, this is new tech which can allow public administrators, law enforcement and corporate employers, to check within seconds to make sure that you are “safe” to be around,” and do not pose ‘a danger to the rest of the community.’
Interestingly, the funding for this new vaccine tattoo technology has come from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation funded the team’s research.
“According to a Scientific American story, the project came about following a direct request from Microsoft founder Bill Gates himself, who has been personally involved in efforts to eradicate polio and measles through vaccinations.”
Using tattoos for the administration of vaccine products is not new however, and most likely MIT and the Gates family were inspired by a program started more than 10 years ago, in which a group of German scientists began work using tattoos on mice as means to deliver a new generation of experimental DNA vaccines, specifically with the Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) vaccine.
It should be noted that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation have come under heavy criticism for an aggressive HPV vaccination “health project” in India, which according to local reports, has resulted in many young girls falling ill, including some deaths.
In 2009, several schools for tribal children in Khammam district in Telangana — then a part of undivided Andhra Pradesh — became sites for observation studies for a cervical cancer vaccine that was administered to thousands of girls aged between nine and 15. The girls were administered the Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) vaccine in three rounds that year under the supervision of state health department officials. The vaccine used was Gardasil, manufactured by Merck. It was administered to around 16,000 girls in the district, many of whom stayed in state government-run hostels meant for tribal students.
Months later, many girls started falling ill and by 2010 five of them died. Two more deaths were reported from Vadodara, Gujarat, where an estimated 14,000 children studying in schools meant for tribal children were also vaccinated with another brand of HPV vaccine, Cervarix, manufactured by GSK. Earlier in the week, the Associated Press reported that scores of teenaged girls were hospitalised in a small town in northern Colombia with symptoms that parents suspect could be an adverse reaction to Gardasil.
Although large in scale, this tragic incident is just one of many documented events involving Gardasil, including numerous lawsuits (for example, see here and here) which were found in favor of the victims.
Could this technology be utilized by governments as an exclusionary tool, or as a mechanism for social engineering? Certainly he potential is there to streamline these two methods of ‘people management.’ Currently the US government is quietly implementing the REAL ID Act which now requires Americans to hold a biometric ID in order to travel on airplanes. US lawmakers have been pushing for this from the 1980s, when former Attorney General William French Smith had proposed to implement a ‘perfectly harmless national ID system’ for which another cabinet minister at the time also proposed to ‘tattoo a number on each American’s forearm.’ To some, this may seem like the stuff of science fiction, and yet it’s been openly discussed by government for decades.
Not surprisingly, the establishment press, funded by the transnational corporations like pharmaceutical firms Merck and GSK, along with government officials and departments, are actively campaigning to shut down any questions or queries into the safety of vaccines. Any dissent or skeptics are being labeled by media and government with the pejorative term, “anti-vaxers”. Mainstream publication Quartz gives the establishment’s argument against “anti-vaxers” here:
This connection is rejected by mainstream scientists. Andrew Wakefield, the source of this conspiracy theory, was struck off by the UK’s General Medical Council for acting dishonestly and irresponsibly, and his published research was retracted by The Lancet. Earlier this year, a study of over 650,000 children in Denmark concluded that there was no evidence of a connection between MMR and autism—even among children who were seen to be of heightened risk, such as those with autistic siblings. Still, Wakefield’s ideas continue to have enormous influence. A survey of 2,600 parents published in January by the Royal Society for Public Health shows that 21% of parents in the UK think MMR causes unwanted side effects and almost 10% of parents chose not to give their child the MMR vaccine, mainly because of fears about side effects.
Interestingly, to bolster there claim, they supply polling data derived from the pharmaceutical industrial complex itself:
In June, The Wellcome Trust published the results of a survey of over 140,000 people. Only 73% in Northern Europe (which includes the UK), 59% in Western Europe, and 40% in Eastern Europe agreed with the statement that vaccines are safe. The figure was 72% for the US. The WHO listed vaccine hesitancy as a top ten global health threat for 2019 and one that “threatens to reverse progress made in tackling vaccine-preventable diseases.”
However, there are numerous sources of independent research and data which is now available that indicates how the over prescription of vaccines can pose a serious health risk.
One recent study by Neil Z. Miller entitled, Combining Childhood Vaccines at One Visit Is Not Safe, outlines a clear pattern of risk, particularly with regards to the over-administering of vaccines to young children.
Numerous other studies have been published which delineate the risks involved with over-vaccination, some of their findings are summarized here
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Just in case you might have missed some of the words (above) I will highlight them in red:
To make sure that you’ve had all of your required doses of government mandated vaccines, scientists at MIT have created a new ink which can be embedded in the skin which can be read using a special infra-red smart phone camera app.
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“In other words, they’ve found a covert way to embed the record of a vaccination directly in a patient’s skin rather than documenting it electronically or on paper — and their low-risk tracking system could greatly simplify the process of maintaining accurate vaccine records, especially on a larger scale.”
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Essentially, this is new tech which can allow public administrators, law enforcement and corporate employers, to check within seconds to make sure that you are “safe” to be around,” and do not pose ‘a danger to the rest of the community.’
Interestingly, the funding for this new vaccine tattoo technology has come from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which funded the team’s research.
“According to a Scientific American story, the project came about following a direct request from Microsoft founder Bill Gates himself, who has been personally involved in efforts to eradicate polio and measles through vaccinations.”
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Disparaging the us pharmaceutical industry is easy. The defense is that we have the most/best/legal/illegal drugs in the world. Cheapest and most expensive too. The problem is when government forces us to take them. Industry loves government. Forget invisible hand, take care of you're own health, and hope the heavy hand doesn't strike you down for being an uppity monkey in the cage.
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Monkey court, we pay the bill. You want some money for getting harmed by vaccine? First be dead or permanently disabled, then get a really good lawyer.
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Logical contradiction: if Vaccine manufacturers are legally protected from lawsuit, how come $4B+ settlements paid out in lawsuits?
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Disparaging the us pharmaceutical industry is easy...
Bravo, rossmen. Spoken like a true Citizen //:
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Researchers rush to start Moderna coronavirus vaccine trial w/o usual animal testing. https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/11/...nimal-testing/
https://www.livescience.com/coronavi...l-testing.html
CAUGHT ON CAMERA: W.H.O Scientists Question Safety Of Vaccines at World Health Organization’s two-day Global Vaccine Safety Summit in Dec. ‘19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2IujhTdCLE
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/n...fety-problems/
Among other discussion points, attendees admitted that:
- Vaccines can be fatal.
- The design of safety studies makes it difficult to spot problems.
- Safety monitoring is inadequate.
- Vaccine adjuvants increase risk.
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Hi Alexander,
You were not unclear. You were perfectly clear. You clearly said the following:
- Vaccines are exempt from phase 1 trials.
- Vaccines are exempt from human safety tests.
- The proposed coronavirus vaccine will skip human testing.
.... The trials are described in detail at https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID-19.
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No contradiction at all. It's Called VAERS and is taxpayer funded. We pay for Big Pharmas major mistakes. So convenient! It started in 1986 under the Reagan Administration so that Big Pharma vaccine corporations would have NO liability. The corporations were being sued so much that they threatened the gov't not produce them.
So Reagan gave them what they wanted. If they have NO liability, why do they need the gold standard to test? They don't! Because that takes at least 20 yrs. There has been NO independent study of vax vs unvax populations and effects by the CDC or its agencies.
Over $4 Billion have been paid out by VAERS in 2019 alone according to the DOJ Report on Vaccine Court Reveals https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/4-billion-and-growing-u-s-payouts-for-vaccine-injuries-and-deaths-keep-climbing/
And in fact, the CDC and DHHS was sued 2 years ago and lost. The media just hid that away like they do so often for inconvenient truths. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300712629.html
And if you use other search engines that are not run by google, which scrubbs anything that doesn't support their Big Corporation agenda, you might find some real truthful information. Remember that censorship is bigger than the McCarthy era at this point.
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Logical contradiction: if Vaccine manufacturers are legally protected from lawsuit, how come $4B+ settlements paid out in lawsuits?
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Check out this article – well ahead of the wave ->
Bill Gates Foundation, Rothschild Vanguard & Blackrock / China manufacture Wuhan Coronavirus outbreak by funding both the creation of the virus and the vaccine. Bill Gates is the New World Order’s equivalent of a chief science officer. As such, his top priority is depopulation. His stated method is vaccines.
Bill is walking in his fathers' footsteps {fathers, Plural, Ed. ] who was also tasked with depopulation while head of Planned Parenthood (47). A proud legacy of eugenicists. [ Re: "Eugenics" Must See; text here. Ed. ]
On January 9, 2020, the UN announced that the Wuhan Coronavirus had a lot of similarities to SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) and MERS (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome).
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so, barry, we trust that you and your children will be at the front of the line to get your vaccinations, right? jude
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My NASA scientist friend and her brilliant IT husband have built the largest database of vaccine injuries and deaths.
Their son became autistic right after his vaccination.
We still don't have a vaccine for HIV - it takes years to develop an effective vaccine that won't seriously injure or kill people. And since Bill Gates is leading the cause and his long time relationship with Monsanto makes his work in this field suspect. I would question anything they come up with.
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so, barry, we trust that you and your children will be at the front of the line to get your vaccinations, right? jude
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so, barry, we trust that you and your children will be at the front of the line to get your vaccinations, right? jude
I'll probably wait a year for some of the bugs to shake out, just like any new technology.
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Barry, I'm wondering how much of the work that's been posted you've watched, listened to, read, considered...
Dr. Dolores Cahill
Dr. Buttar
Dr. Shiva
R.F. Kennedy Jr.
Del Bigtree
Dr. Judy Mikovits
James Corbett on Gates, etc.
Dr. Christiane Northrup
Dr. Zach Bush
Dr. Francis Boyle
Michel Chossudovsky
Interested in your response, Jude
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My NASA scientist friend and her brilliant IT husband have built the largest database of vaccine injuries and deaths.
Their son became autistic right after his vaccination.
Are they sure it wasn't the 5G transmitter that was installed down the street, or GMOs or pesticides, or Wi-Fi signals, or chemtrails or residential proximity to freeways, or maybe he ate some gluten (gasp!)?
Let's say that vaccines injure and even kill some people (which I could believe) but it saves 10 times that number. What's the right thing to do?
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YEP Barry many hazards in our crazy world. And everything is relative - like the 1.1 million children expected to die from the impacts of the lockdown - see Amy Goodman's report yesterday on this subject on Democracy Now.
All is relative.
But I would love to get stats on current vaccines produced by Big Pharma that have actually saved lives. Now that would be something to study.
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Coincidence does not prove causation. There is one chance in 365 per year that autism symptoms will develop the day after a vaccination. What pray tell is the mechanism? Where, pay tell, are the *peer reviewed* statistical studies showing a higher incidence of autism shortly after vaccination? And I don't need no fucking YouTube videos, thank you very much.
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No regulatory authority in the developed world would approve a vaccine with anything close to a 10% mortality rate.
What is crazy about anti-vax conspiracy theories is this: If vaccines were so deadly or broadly injurious, the public would notice. In addition, adverse effects of vaccines (and all medications) must be reported to the national regulatory authority (the Food and Drug Administration in the U.S.). If warranted by post-approval data, the FDA will revoke a vaccine's (or other medicine's) approval. If adverse effects are limited to a specific population (e.g., individuals with chronic kidney disease), the FDA will take action to protect the vulnerable population.
Almost everyone in the developed world was vaccinated against smallpox. They did not die or suffer injury. Almost everyone in the developed world is vaccinated against measles, mumps, and rubella. These vaccine recipients are not dying in the streets. Millions upon millions of people are vaccinated against the flu each year. Because of the way flu viruses mutate, a new flu vaccine is developed each year. Millions of people do not die from it. Thousands of people do not die from it.
Fortunately for all of us—including, ironically, the anti-vaxers—most people are neither ignorant, stupid, nor gullible enough to believe crackpot anti-vax conspiracy theories.
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I expect to be vaccinated as soon as a vaccine is approved, so my life can return to some semblance of normalcy. However, I will read the reports of the clinical studies and consult with my primary care physician before making my decision.
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Yes, Me too. Let's get back out there playing together and enjoying the REAL world. Enough of this virtual stuff. And--for those who don't want to get vaccinated--fine--if enough of us do--you'll be safe, too. I don't get the flu vaccine for that reason. Aloha, LIlith
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....Let's say that vaccines injure and even kill some people (which I could believe) but it saves 10 times that number. What's the right thing to do?
ok, maybe this is tangential, but... bird in the hand vs. one in the bush syndrome. There's a huge bias toward inaction if action has a hazard. Once you're getting to a 1-in-10 chance that taking an action might hurt you, even the fact that the inaction might hurt you a lot but is also about the same odds won't convince many to take the action. Note I don't say "take the risk" -- you're taking a risk either way -- but inaction is much more the default decision.
I think that's behind a lot of the emotional appeal of anti-vaxx. They pump the perceived risk, but really they're trying to explain logically their intuitive resistance to risky action vs. risky inaction. Smart people construct complex arguments like that for emotional reasons all the time
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...What is crazy about anti-vax conspiracy theories is this: If vaccines were so deadly or broadly injurious, the public would notice. In addition,...
Steve Finnell, Regarding the broad sweep of the trust that you so confidently invest in the so-called "F.D.A." -Did you know that the Food and Drug Administration began life as the 'Division of Chemistry' [Rockefeller] , and was later known as the "Bureau of Chemistry" [Rockefeller] long before changing its name to the F.D.A. ? Here is an informative 9-minute documentary that explains the Corporate-Fascist nature of the entity.
Furthermore, Perhaps it would be a point of Wisdom for us to to compare the use of Vaccines in the past with the abuse of Vaccines in the present. Jonas Salk was something close to a secular saint. It is true, Vaccines have saved many lives - in the past. It is a fact.
But since the Reagan administration, the state of accountability of the Pharmaceutical-Industrial Complex has become nil. Robert Kennedy, Jr. explains how and why the shift took place in this interview:
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You probably mean well. If you have any scientific evidence to support your claim about colloidal silver, even from anti-establishment sources, please post it here so we can see and analyze it. And please do the same for the alleged benefits of 27 volts of DC current. Since you have no scientific support for your claims, your posts about it are, at best, a distraction for people in a time of great stress.
Steve Finell, do you just like to ask Questions, or can you actually study as well? You posed that Challenge (above) to me over on the “Acting responsibly about Coronavirus” thread back in March. Just four minutes before you posed that Question, Barry sent me a 'personal' email forbidding me - on pain of being "banned" - from posting any more on that thread. Fact.
So far, I have posted sixteen short articles on the thread “Electro-therapy, Colloidal Silver-Water, Baking Soda, & Herbs” – where Barry quarantined me, but so far, you, Steve Finnell have not deigned to utter a single comment – and neither has anyone else in this forum. You wrote: "please post it here so we can see and analyze it..."
But so far, not much analysis of the non-AMA-approved Medicine has been analyzed here, on WaccoBB. My point is this: There are - and have ever been - other modalities and other ways of healing (& curing) diseases besides the god-damned Petrochemical-Phamaceutical-Industrial-Complex "solutions" (i.e. for us to wait for a vaccine cooked up by "Big Pharma" and then dutifully line up and get our shots.)
Here @ WaccoBb - as in the rest of the media - the main thrust of the dialog focuses around the Coming of the Vaccine, to Save us. I have to seriously Question the resident ability of most of the posters here in this forum to actually do any research, to study, or even to do any serious reading at all…
O well. Perhaps it’s just a bad case of mass A.D.D. for grown-ups. It could even be like an epidemic. Yes, that’s it – an epidemic of A.D.D. for grownups.
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Steve Finnell, if you do decide to read - and analyze - what I wrote on the “Electro-therapy, Colloidal Silver-Water, Baking Soda, & Herbs” thread, I would appreciate it if you would do the "analyzing" over on the "Coronavirus: Alternative Therapies" thread. -And this applies to everyone who might choose to follow suit. I am rather enjoying the Quarantine that Barry imposed on my "Electro-therapy" thread. Let's just say that it's my turf.
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It must make you feel special to believe that somehow you know more about medicine and science than people who are educated and experienced in medicine and science. However, contrary to the familiar adage, ignorance in not bliss. When it comes to important matters, such as health, ignorance is dangerous.
I feel sorry for you.
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PLEASE DO NOT distract people from legitimate, scientifically sound advice concerning the threat of COVID-19 by recommending quack cures such as colloidal silver. There is NO evidence that colloidal silver will protect people against or cure COVID-19 or any other malady. Silver plays no role in human nutrition or health. On the other hand, Dr. Robb is qualified expert on coronaviruses, and his recommendations warrant consideration.
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You probably mean well. If you have any scientific evidence to support your claim about colloidal silver, even from anti-establishment sources, please post it here so we can see and analyze it. And please do the same for the alleged benefits of 27 volts of DC current. Since you have no scientific support for your claims, your posts about it are, at best, a distraction for people in a time of great stress.
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It must make you feel special to believe that somehow you know more about medicine and science than people who are educated and experienced in medicine and science. However, contrary to the familiar adage, ignorance in not bliss. When it comes to important matters, such as health, ignorance is dangerous.
I feel sorry for you.
Incidentally, Steve, though my father, Philip James Evans, M.D. was a card-carrying member of the A.M.A., my mother, Marda Liggett Woodbury was an accomplished Research Librarian, and the author of many books. She graduated from Columbia with an M.A. in Library Science in 1948 at the age of 22. For the last fifteen years of her working career - from 1979 until 1995 - she was the Library Director at Life Chiropractic College West, in San Leandro. She built that Library; tripled it in size in the fifteen years she was there. Every book that was added to the collection was a book that she personally vetted and chose.
I was fairly close to my mother. We had many discussions about the two schools of medicine in America. She tended to favor the Dr.C. School, saying that on the whole, they had a better understanding and grounding in Anatomy, though she acknowledged that the A.M.A. produced good surgeons -something the D.C's did not practice. I also was fairly close to my (post-Freudian) psychiatrist father, in spite of our history, and had many discussions with him about Medicine, and went toe to toe with him on the issue of (A.M.A.) medical malfeasance in prescribing drugs - and how it was truly an ugly racket.
So, given my family -and my own personal- history Over the years I have learned a fair amount about Medicine – of Both of the still standing Schools of the Trade- here in Amerika: the D.C. & the M.D.. Much of what I have learned I learned by Osmosis, the rest in the School of Hard Knocks... Electro-therapy and the use of Colloidal Silver-Water are fine with the Dr.C. School of Medicine, But the A.M.A. -who have the upper hand (on account of Rockefeller support) decry the advocacy of such as "quackery" and the rival School {Dr.C's) as "Quacks."
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It must make you feel special to believe that somehow you know more about medicine and science than people who are educated and experienced in medicine and science.
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I feel sorry for you.
Here's an article on the efficacy of colloidal silver with references. https://www.news-medical.net/amp/new...solutions.aspx
You're not really scientific Finell, just bitter and smug.
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Lets say that you have no idea what vaccines do or if they save any lives anywhere. You could believe that vaccines might kill or maime people but you definitely believe that vaccines save people somewhere. You have no idea what vaccines can and cannot do and unless you do you are the least likely authority on the subject. Pretty sure.
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Lets say that you have no idea what vaccines do or if they save any lives anywhere....
What's the polio rate these days?
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Jude and I were chatting on a number of these subjects and I mentioned that she should check this documentary out and so I share it with those who are hungry for the information. https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/everything-rich-man-trick/
It is time that everyone get caught up on what our country is up to and about. This documentary hits the information about our current situation right out of the ball park. Starting with ww1and 2 as a back drop the document unfolds the morbid details of our current future. Those of us who insist that everything is just fine and that we must always refer to the media and the government for our security and information alleys will need to finally pull up their big boy and girl pants after this three hour video.
The only bit I found in it that was off was the part about Kennedy having his head blown off by a sharp shooter in a drainage ditch. Author and long Time Radio show host William Cooper showed that the driver of the presidential limousine was actually the person who had stopped the limo turned around and shot Kennedys head off before pealing away. Sad all of it. But we must understand what it is that we are up against here. For those who wave it all off and cannot stop sucking down the ice cold Kool Aid will find this particular document distressing to say the least. If you can stomach all that then theres this.
'Crossing the Rubicon' https://newsociety.com/books/c/crossing-the-rubicon by Mike Ruppert. This amazing book certainly proves the assertions in the video though the two had not actually crossed paths as Ruppert was 'suicided ' several years ago.
Then to catch up on the last part of the documentary one can read Webster Griffin Tarpleys study of the 911 incident. "9/11synthetic terror made in the USA" https://www.amazon.com/11-Synthetic-.../dp/1615771115
For once you realize that there is certainly a leaden amount of trickery going on with these events a pattern emerges that will certainly inform even the most stoic of information ner-do-wells.
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Historical data has proven that polio was actually conquered by the advent of hand washing and sanitation practices. Perhaps there is some other Vaccine that you can point to that is some how worthwhile Barry. https://rootsofprogress.org/draining-the-swamp
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I am hoping to get Bill Gates and his children the first of the vaccines they are so keen on injecting into the population. Although Gates children have yet to be vaccinated for any of the childhood or adult diseases I am sure it will only help the sale and distribution of these products. As for people who advocate for vaccines. Go and get them get the boosters, you know you are late in getting those, get the flu shot get everything for your dog, for your children for your lovely wife and husband. Make sure you are all caught up.
But don't you ever tell me and my family or friends that they 'must' take your poison path . For if you and your people have ingested the poison and feel 'safe' from the dis-ease then there is no reason why I should feel uneasy for you. Either the vaccines work or they do not. If they do then you have nothing to fear from my family and friends. I expect that when you do get out of the doctors office from your vaccine you will report that all is well for you and your family....
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This is fucking gold-plated nonsense, and that's an understatement. Polio was made worse by sanitation, because when adults (FDR etc.) got it, it was much worse than it was for infants. Summer of 1954, I'm 14 years old, polio outbreak in the next town to the west (Richboro, PA), all the mothers freak out. No more swimming in the creek. 1955: Salk vaccine becomes available, no more polio. I was there, it was a godsend.
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