Sex for the sake of sex

[yogatree]

There is a great line from Tori Amos' song called "Leather": "Look, I'm standing naked before you, don't you want more than my sex?"

How many of us have, at one time or another, felt there was something lacking from a sexual encounter? Perhaps the sex was physically pleasurable but there was a strong sense that it was all just on the surface, that there was potential for something so much deeper. Feeling a void, a longing.

On the flip side, how many of us, in our intimate sexual encounters, have experienced what can only be described as a dance with the Divine? While in the naked embrace of a loved one, we rise up with serpentine movements, transcend our bodies, swim in a sea of energy, love and light, kiss the face of god/dess with head thrown back, and find ourselves with our breath literally taken away...sharing an amazing spiritual experience with the one before us...

In this dance with the divine, there is a mutual play of energy. Two (or more) individuals meet each other - one does not feel the need to press, the other does not feel the need to withdraw - both are sharing in the flow, reading and responding to the other. There is subtlety, respect, love, exchange, play, balance. And there is fulfillment.

I'm not sure where I'm going with this...I guess to say that I've experienced both scenarios (and in between), and find myself not just wanting sex for the sake of the physical experience, not just wanting someone else to want me for sex. I enjoy the deeper experience, the spiritual experience that can accompany it. I love the dance!

Please feel free to share your thoughts.

[Skook]

Okay, here's a few thoughts...

Sex is like hugging or sharing a meal. Sometimes it's awkward, sometimes it's friendly, sometimes funny, silly... often it's gratifying and sometimes it's profoundly connecting.

I like sex, hugging and eating so much (with someone I care about) that I'm happy to have silly, funny and gratifying experiences, I'm tolerant of perfunctory and awkward experiences, and I'm very grateful for the profoundly connecting experiences.

Would I happily give a "hug for the sake of hugging" to someone I care about? You betcha.

[yogatree]

Ah! Well said! Thank you for sharing.

[Jason 17]

The scenario you described sounded wonderful.Could I free myself with casual knowledge of others or would it take a deeper established connection? I actually don't know.I do love discovering new people and new bodies,and yet there's a kind of willingness I feel when the intimacy is already there on other levels.

[mykil]

I find my reflection in each and every individual I run across. I find this in sexual encounters as well. I can only be into one as much as they are into me. I love the dance as well and shall love to spend countless hours romancing, massaging, caressing and just totally lusting after the one before the final connection, if your equal is not into the dance as you are how can you have this dance by yourself and be still totally into the relationship you are about to endear?

When I meet someone in particular I would love to attend every moment in the day making them happy and enlightened I usually have to bring myself down a level or two to drop to their particular expectations and relative holding of the event to be performed. Thus losing my interests and expectations. Truly a waist! I love meeting people that just take my intuition and excitement to new levels and want to not only keep up but have me try and keep up! This is by far way better than hoe hum hey what’s your name again?

[pjpete]

I always love giving a hug for the sake of hugging. Hugging is acknowledgment, a greeting, a way of addressing the need for contact without stepping on one's boundaries. Hugging is giving the hugged that needed little or big squeeze everyone needs now and then.

[Jason 17]

I always love giving a hug for the sake of hugging. Hugging is acknowledgment, a greeting, a way of addressing the need for contact without stepping on one's boundaries. Hugging is giving the hugged that needed little or big squeeze everyone needs now and then.

I agree.I can often communicate how I feel about someone as well as read how they feel about me with a hug.Sometimes it is a simple gift,other times an invitation for more.Physical contact melded with truly being present rewards in many ways. Jason

[yogatree]

I also welcome comments, and would love to hear, from anyone who wishes to play the role of "devil's advocate" regarding the original post!

[MsTerry]

Well, I am glad you asked.
How are you going to have sex for the sake of sex?
You mean to put it on the calender every week?
Or do you see it as a yoga exercise?
A workout maybe?

I also welcome comments, and would love to hear, from anyone who wishes to play the role of "devil's advocate" regarding the original post!

[mykil]

MARRIAGE!!!!! How did this get to marriage, I thought we were talking about sex? You’re losing me here! The icing on the cake is spectacular as long as it does have some sugar and spice no matter how you look at this for sure this goes without saying. As far as taking someone for a test drive why not? Are you chicken? And what is wrong with oral sex BTW? I wouldn’t even conceder dating a woman unless she swallowed for god sakes! Sex can be fun without all the commotions of marriage and the paling and ordinary missionary style our four fathers and mothers were accustom to, Marriage is soooo outdated it really should be abolished and all law concerning it should go right along with this!!! The only reason marriage is still on the books these dayz is for money or security for one party and that is that I myself have and never well be married due to the nature of the outrageousness that has attached itself to a purely uneventful task for dayz gone by. Who in their right mind would? You need to sign a piece of paper to say you are to be with another? Bull!!! All this talk about gay marriage that I am 100 percent for just for the rights of another, yet these folks don’t know what they are getting themselves into!!!!! STOP leave the marriage alone for gawd sakes just turn and walk away you don’t need to sign you life away just to say you belong to another!!! Put a collar and a lock around your neck if need be just leave the frigging government out of it!!! Oh too much probably but I do feel strongly about these affairs.

Sex is as sensual as ever, the lust you can fee land the excitement it can extend to ones soul is as real as life is, the only true thing we have on this earth is love. It is the only thing everyone has in common. There is not one person on this earth that has not felt love, or been affected by love in one way or another. If love is alive then it is truly a=our god!!!!! If love is in our minds that it is truly our god!!!! There is only one thing on this earth that every singe individual has in common and this is truly a gift from our gods. Why fight it the only thing that has stepped in our way has been our own product of labeling each other and putting an ownership and right of way on people. Love has turned us into slaves and this is easy enough to see. Free love if we ever overcome the jealousy and power entity we all see to have should be dealt with and over come. Can you imagine if we were all for free love in this world what we would accomplice? Stop before you answer such a simple question.

If we were all about frère love each and every one of us this is what I see; every problem brought on by STD’s would be cured by now, because it would be the number one priority world wide. We would have not war! We would be way to happy to even being in a bad mode. The ones that were in pain and suffering would be taking care of just by the true nature of love itself, everyone would be living in perfect harmony and everything would be shared. Even planting a garden would be a lustful event. The only time anyone would want to travel would be to see a love in a different neighborhood and that would be just for pure love. There would be no shortage of fuel, no shorting of fresh water, virtually no pollution!!! No factories to make all the stupid stuff we have in our homes. The only thing we would ever wear would be really comfy cloths when for some reason we were not naked lying in a group of people caressing and fondling every each other! All the children in the world would be in a loving nurturing environment raised in a loving family not one being let alone or starving or having to do without anything what so ever! WoW!!!!!! Pure love ecstasy and peace on earth, fuck marriage, fuck ownership fuck jealousy fuck all the power control freaks and let’s just fuck one another!!! HA!!!!

[Skook]

Write on Mykil, write on!

MARRIAGE!!!!! How did this get to marriage, I thought we were talking about sex?

[Jason 17]

MARRIAGE!!!!! How did this get to marriage, I thought we were talking about sex?...

Wow,I don't know where to begin.Mykil, what you describe is not a society based on love,it's based on sex.Sex with as many people as you can.Love and sex don't necessarily equal one another.Yes there's a lot of stuff based on money and that sucks too.Marriage or not,sex or not,swallowing or not, your choice and that's the point!

[mykil]

Oh and Jason the swallowing part was a joke oh contraceptives via butchs post, do try and keep up eh! HA! Another joke DUDE!

[yogatree]

DW ~Thank you for sharing your perspective!

I'd love to give a response from a Christian view point. ...

[yogatree]

Perhaps some common ground for us to reflect upon is "God is Love". Not only is this stated in the Bible, it is also communicating to us that god is a state, a way of being.

Love is such an amazingly powerful energy - one that can truly end war, feed those who are hungry and allow for respect of differing opinions. A world where people move from their hearts rather than from fear of differences would be pretty awe-inspiring! And it is within our capabilities to create!

I appreciated what you said, Mykil, "WE are LOVE, LOVE is GOD and GOD is WE." When we remember who we are, when we experience our essence, we experience pure love. It is through love that peace - inner and outer - becomes a reality.

Is not sex an expression of love? Whether it is sharing this love with a person we hardly know during a few hours one glorious afternoon, or sharing this expression of love with the same person for years or decades?

I am not sure how to say this without hurting your feeling Jason so I am just going to say it! You truly DO NOT know what love is!

Mzt as usual you missed the point completely! I would love nothing more than to be living of a commute growing our own vegetables, only cutting enough wood to house everyone close together, as in living in one or two dwelling as in just being and receiving love from one another Too much love to eat or even grown an artificial creature as food. There for we would never run out of nutrients as we are on the verge of doing now, our oceans would be for pleasure and magnificent adventures instead of filling them full of plastic and ever even throwing a net across the water to catch the little creatures and munching them down. We are cannibals stuck in a hell we have designed for ourselves and no one seems to get this. Love is all around us, WE are love, yet we have boundaries we adhere to and make our own living hell. Sp for all your religious fanatics once again, WE are LOVE, LOVE is GOD, and GOD is WE!

[Visnhawk]

I couldn't agree more!!!!!

There is a great line from Tori Amos' song called "Leather": "Look, I'm standing naked before you, don't you want more than my sex."
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[Visnhawk]

Greetings,
I guess I should have read this thread all the way back. All I was replying to was that sex could be much more than just fun & orgasm. It could be incredibly spiritual & Loving in ways beyond our wildest dreams.

But, with that said, Sex in any form is a personal choice. Do what you will as long as it harms none. I believe everyone has the right to pursue their path in their own way.
Blessed be,
VisionHawk Rising

[Barry]

I split off the Christian tangent of this discussion into its own thread: https://www.waccobb.net/forums/consc...html#post87627

Anybody else want to share your thoughts about "sex for the sake of sex"? Surely, there are many of you out there who have had sex with somebody that you were not "in love with" or in any other creative relationship status ("Friends with Benefits", "Fuck Buddies", etc.)

[mykil]

I would share my story from last night but I am afraid everyone might laugh at me...

[dw41552]

I split off the Christian tangent of this discussion into its own thread: https://www.waccobb.net/forums/consc...html#post87627

Anybody else want to share your thoughts about "sex for the sake of sex"? Surely, there are many of you out there who have had sex with somebody that you were not "in love with" or in any other creative relationship status ("Friends with Benefits", "Fuck Buddies", etc.)

Sure! But all I got out of it was pain and heart ache. Not to mention the C note it usually cost to wine and dine em. And as much as I like sex just as much as the next guy that 30 minutes or so of pleasure was never worth a hundred bucks. That was the old me by the way.

[Barry]

I would share my story from last night but I am afraid everyone might laugh at me...

Go on...I could use a laugh!

[mykil]

Hmmm ok it went like this, I meet a wonderful little Mexican woman, she invites me over and we talk, she takes a shower and comes out in a sexy lingerie. I am enthused to say the least. She asks if I like porn, II don’t know what to say I don’t want to say yes and I don’t want to lie either. I say it depends and she sayz the same thing, then she hits play on her DVD and porn comes on and she is all over me, while I am all over her. I start to finger her and then without even thinking I go own on her and make her cum in about a minute. She sayz that was wonderful and now you have to go I need to go out and do something important! I am like what? She sayz I need to leave and I am like I heard you I just don’t know what to say. She sayz she is sorry and to make sure I call her again really soon. I am like what do you want me to call you? I felt soo used in between laughing all the way home! HA!

[MsTerry]

What's her name?

Hmmm ok it went like this, I meet a wonderful little Mexican woman, she invites me over and we talk, she takes a shower and comes out in a sexy lingerie. I am enthused to say the least. She asks if I like porn, II don’t know what to say I don’t want to say yes and I don’t want to lie either. I say it depends and she sayz the same thing, then she hits play on her DVD and porn comes on and she is all over me, while I am all over her. I start to finger her and then without even thinking I go own on her and make her cum in about a minute. She sayz that was wonderful and now you have to go I need to go out and do something important! I am like what? She sayz I need to leave and I am like I heard you I just don’t know what to say. She sayz she is sorry and to make sure I call her again really soon. I am like what do you want me to call you? I felt soo used in between laughing all the way home! HA!

[yogatree]

Thank you, Visnhawk!
Yes, this is what I was also offering in the original post.

Greetings,
I guess I should have read this thread all the way back. All I was replying to was that sex could be much more than just fun & orgasm. It could be incredibly spiritual & Loving in ways beyond our wildest dreams.

But, with that said, Sex in any form is a personal choice. Do what you will as long as it harms none. I believe everyone has the right to pursue their path in their own way.
Blessed be,
VisionHawk Rising

[Lorrie]

What's her name?

Nosey MsTerry....If he wanted ALL of us to know her name, I am positive he would have written..
Hmmm ok it went like this, I meet a wonderful little Mexican woman named so and so....

DONCHATHINK?

[MsTerry]

Well, I think it was Mykil who was doing the nosey-job.
I think he doesn't even know her name!

Nosey MsTerry....If he wanted ALL of us to know her name, I am positive he would have written..
Hmmm ok it went like this, I meet a wonderful little Mexican woman named so and so....

DONCHATHINK?

[Sylph]

I don't think names are necessary for "sex for the sake of sex". "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet", or something like that.
Each to his own!

Well, I think it was Mykil who was doing the nosey-job.
I think he doesn't even know her name!

[mykil]

LMAO! Although it is a true story that I once dated a woman for over a year and didn’t know her name, I do at this point in time make it a point to get it, even if this is embarrassing to me in any way I still ask. Although I don’t feel regret for not knowing her name, I do believe every event in this lifetime has meaning and truly the lesson it taught me was well worth the effort. IF you haven’t read this story I am sure I posted somewhere it came to a crashing conclusion when she asked me to make a flyer for her sons birthday on my computer, and after it was all finished she states and just put my name and phone number on the bottom of the page. I was dumbfounded and asked her what she wanted me to put, while in return she stated “you don’t know my name do you”? She walked away and I have never seen her since! I only saw this woman once every few weeks due to her hectic schedule and I didn’t get her name because I new her for about six month before I asked her out and never from the get go got it! SO there!

In response to your Question MzT, I have tried and succeeded in forgetting this woman’s name, she was downright mean, rude just wanted to se if she could have her way with me while trying to be hurtful without letting me know she was, not even worth my effort to try to save or move forward towards seeing the light! Although I don’t truly feel this way it is half truth, for I cannot bear pain or hatred towards anyone or thing! I prefer the goddess type, They are much further enlightened tasteful succulent along with the purest intentions towards man/woman kind and I conceder most goddesses a pure delightful treat to our world and would never even want to date another troll again. Remembering her name is not my worry it’s more along the lines of trying to get her taste out of my mouth!!!

[mykil]

Vegetarians are the only way to go how sweet is that meat, what a desired and fantastic treat, not to be confused with how I beat my meat while thinking of sucking on her feet. More on the lines of Ohhhh I have never taste something soooo friggin sweet… every chance I get I just think to myself "how friggin cool is this? this is sooo dam neat"! HA!

[Tinque]

I was told by a lover once that there is a big difference between sex and love. I really tried to understand this in several perspectives. Now, say I was being paid for sex . I am sure there would be no love involved , unless it was for money. Say I am enamored with a person and we end up sleeping together and it is O.K., but no "connection". I am sure there could be feelings and friendship involved and maybe even a type of love , but then you meet someone who actually rocks your world , like no other.. Sky Rockets in Flight !! But you do not even really get along with this person.. But when the magic is there it is pure love and bliss.. Several men have said to me that they "fuck" and that is nothing even near love.. I am sure women "fuck" as well . I personally am very sensitive about whom I give my body to. It is not casual or without feeling . That can be to my detriment at times. But I am a lover at heart and when one is in my arms , sex or not , there is love involved !