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    Re: Enforce the Smart Meter Ban in Sebastopol

    Oh thanks folks ..

    Yes, I could put my foot down and throw her out but I think that I'm dealing with an addiction here. Look up "Brain Hacking", 60 minutes, about cell phone addiction.. this is not normal use we're talking about.
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    Or maybe it is the new normal. I reserve addiction as a self defined term, as in do we regret our own frequent behavior? Maybe her phone is her route to happiness. I do disagree with your tenant that turning off the wifi is a felony, bs.

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    ...Yes, I could put my foot down and throw her out but I think that I'm dealing with an addiction here....
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    I do disagree with your tenant that turning off the wifi is a felony, bs.
    she's likely heard somewhere that it's illegal to jam radio signals and unconsciously extrapolated. It's true - don't jam the WiFi. Turning it off is fine, and I think shielding to block signals is fine too. 'Course IANAL either. (fun acronym)
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    I would have never moved into a place with wifi restrictions. I use wifi to watch TV. I cut the cable.

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    phones use wifi for 'free'. Using the cell tower will require a data plan and cost more.
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    I would throw out a drug user or an alcoholic if they were disruptive to my household. What is the difference?

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    Yes, I could put my foot down and throw her out but I think that I'm dealing with an addiction here. ...
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    Re: Enforce the Smart Meter Ban in Sebastopol

    Nobody is going to force anything to stop. Especially when we are in love with our smart phones. I say this while viewing a study reinforcing how they actually make you dumber. https://www.businessinsider.com/smar...y-study-2017-6

    Classic troll tactic....throwing in Trump's name has nothing to do with the discussion. If you wanted to point fingers maybe we could look at your friends Tom Wheeler or maybe Al Gore (Silver Spring Networks)? Just sitting here thinking of all the people that relied on their misled guidance.....true enemies of humanity.

    You can choose to drive a car 100 miles an hour and smoke till you are blue. The great thing is the utility isn't forcing you to do it and if you don't they aren't charging you a fee not to.

    Widespread evidence? Yes, I witness positive results consistently. It depends on where you look. Sitting behind a computer screen Googling for evidence probably won't work as well as hands on. Just my opinion.
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    Maybe a WiFi router next to your bed sitting on a nightstand?

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    I would have never moved into a place with wifi restrictions. I use wifi to watch TV. I cut the cable.
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    Maybe a WiFi router next to your bed sitting on a nightstand?
    no way, that's dangerous...

    You might get up in the night and trip over the wire.
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    .... I reserve addiction as a self defined term, as in do we regret our own frequent behavior? ....
    O.T. but addiction can be defined as having a physically-measurable component. Its colloqial use is one thing, but misdefining it lends support to the just-say-no crowd.
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    I do hope that those of you who believe that it is safe to live in a constant soup of EMF radiation are right because it's about to get a whole lot worse. I don't have the knowledge to agree with this women's opinions at the end of the video regarding fascism, etc
    but the rest of it is factual and based on local news. My house mate did try to turn off the wifi but our router is still showing it as operational. It seems that Comcast thinks it has the right to turn your modem into a wifi hotspot .

    and on it goes ... The missing ingredient? ... Choice!
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=ycQmarqLKwE
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    Comcast is just trying to serve you, as in reducing customer calls. Wifi seems to be transitioning from a choice to a right. Pushing back against change makes you evil in the modern world. To be the devil, the only greater power is to be godchrist. Making the world a better place involves holding steady as much as embracing change.

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    ... My house mate did try to turn off the wifi but our router is still showing it as operational. It seems that Comcast thinks it has the right to turn your modem into a wifi hotspot.
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    This is why restaurants etc. cannot install cell phone jammers. Would be nice in church but again, no jammers.

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    she's likely heard somewhere that it's illegal to jam radio signals and unconsciously extrapolated. It's true - don't jam the WiFi. Turning it off is fine, and I think shielding to block signals is fine too. 'Course IANAL either. (fun acronym)
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    What is the but? Your house your rules. She, like me may not believe that wifi signals are harmful but you do. So your house your rules.

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    Yes, I could put my foot down and throw her out but I think that I'm dealing with an addiction here.
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    ....Classic troll tactic....throwing in Trump's name has nothing to do with the discussion. If you wanted to point fingers maybe we could look at your friends Tom Wheeler or maybe Al Gore (Silver Spring Networks)?...
    hey, at least I avoided bringing in Hitler (oops, just did).

    and sorry, I have no idea who Tom Wheeler is. I do know who Saul Alinsky is, though. Does that count?
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    Re: Enforce the Smart Meter Ban in Sebastopol

    5g technology will be run on the same frequency as crowd control weaponry. Interesting. I will be continuing with this research on my blog...

    https://www.sott.net/article/345599-...ontrol-weapons
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    ... My house mate did try to turn off the wifi but our router is still showing it as operational. It seems that Comcast thinks it has the right to turn your modem into a wifi hotspot.
    Just unplug it!
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    hey, at least I avoided bringing in Hitler (oops, just did).

    and sorry, I have no idea who Tom Wheeler is. I do know who Saul Alinsky is, though. Does that count?
    Why am I not surprised. Tom Wheeler ran the FCC under the Obama administration. He was also head of the cell phone industry many years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ZdeLpCHbc Could be compared to Joseph Goebbels.
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    Re: Enforce the Smart Meter Ban in Sebastopol

    Cell tower engineer whistleblower https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnthtcjX0A0&sns=fb

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    5g technology will be run on the same frequency as crowd control weaponry. Interesting. I will be continuing with this research on my blog...

    https://www.sott.net/article/345599-...ontrol-weapons
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    Re: Enforce the Smart Meter Ban in Sebastopol

    Important info ...

    San Francisco Passes Cellphone Radiation Law

    Also, this woman has an interesting story. She has many videos online
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CcibHTt1tTk
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    25 million dollar study about cell phones and cancer. I did not post the first link above. I've never seen it before


    NIH National Toxicology Program Cell Phone Radiofrequency Radiation Study
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    What to make of the apparent life extending result for exposed vs. not exposed. Can both be true? (possible increase in cancer in male rats AND extended life in male rats?). If true, is it a good trade off (extended life but higher possibility of cancer?).
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    25 million dollar study about cell phones and cancer.

    NIH National Toxicology Program Cell Phone Radiofrequency Radiation Study
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    My husband, who is the greatest technology advocate that I know ( built his own computer before they were commercially available ), also denies that there's any danger. He's experiencing his second incidence of cancer, the first incidence occurring on his neck where he held his cell phone. Talk to him about the joys of cancer.

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    What to make of the apparent life extending result for exposed vs. not exposed. Can both be true? (possible increase in cancer in male rats AND extended life in male rats?). If true, is it a good trade off (extended life but higher possibility of cancer?).
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    Re: Enforce the Smart Meter Ban in Sebastopol

    This is a page from Environmental Health Trust that I just came across regarding wifi, etc., .. thought that I should share...

    Cancer Expert Declares Cell Phone And Wireless Radiation As Carcinogenic To Humans
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