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    "Mad" Miles
     

    What Your Brain Looks Like on Faith

    What Your Brain Looks Like on Faith
    From: A Friend and Colleague of "Mad" Miles
    Sent: Mon 12/24/07 10:15 AM


    What Your Brain Looks Like on Faith

    By David Van Biema, TIME Newsletter, Dec. 14, 2007
    [accessed Dec.24/07]

    Sam Harris is best known for his barn-burning 2004
    attack on religion, The End of Faith, which spent 33
    weeks on the New York Times best-seller List. The
    book's sequel, Letter to a Christian Nation also came
    out in editions totalling [sic] hundreds of thousands.
    Last Monday, however, the combative Californian
    produced a shorter (seven pages) and seemingly calmer
    publication that will be a hit if it reaches 10,000
    readers: "Functional Neuroimaging of Belief, Disbelief
    and Uncertainty." It appears in the respected journal
    Annals of Neurology. And Harris, 40, claims it has
    little if any connection to his two popular books.
    Believers, however, may draw their own conclusions —
    and may want to read his subsequent neurological
    studies even more carefully.

    The current paper recovers Harris's identity as a
    doctoral candidate in neuroscience at UCLA, his
    occupation before he commenced what he calls his
    "extramural affair jumping into trenches in the
    culture wars." It is an addition to the growing field
    of brain scan trials, and Harris thinks it may be the
    first to detail how the brain processes belief. At
    first read, it seems less dangerous to Christianity
    than to another cherished pillar of Western thought —
    that "objective" beliefs like "2 + 2 = 4" and
    "subjective" beliefs like "torture is bad" belong to
    entirely separate categories of thought.

    Harris and two co-authors ran 360 statements by 14
    adult subjects whose brain activities were then
    scanned by functional magnetic resonance imaging
    (fMRI) devices. It suggests that within the brain pan,
    at least, the distinction between objective and
    subjective is not so clear-cut. Although more complex
    assertions may get analyzed in so-called "higher"
    areas of the brain, all seem to get their final stamp
    of "belief" or disbelief in "primitive" locales
    traditionally associated with emotions or taste and
    odor. Even "2 + 2 = 4," on some level, is a question
    of taste. Thus, the statement "that just doesn't smell
    right to me" may be more literal than we thought.

    Harris tested how the brain responded to assertions in
    seven categories: mathematical, geographic, semantic,
    factual, autobiographical, ethical and religious. All
    seven provided some useful data, but only the ones
    relating to math and ethics produced results clear
    enough to give a vivid picture of the way the simple
    and the complex, the subjective and the objective
    intertwine. Regardless of their content, statements
    that the subjects believed lit up the ventral medial
    prefrontal cortex (VMPC), a location in the brain best
    known for processing reward, emotion and taste.
    Equally "primitive" areas associated with taste, pain
    perception and disgust determined disbelief.

    "False propositions may actually disgust us," Harris
    writes.

    Is there a practical application here? He speculates
    that if belief brain scanning were sufficiently
    refined it could act as an accurate lie detector and
    help control for the placebo effect in drug design.

    Harris says there is no critique of faith hidden
    somewhere in his brief paper. But his next
    neurological enterprise may be another matter. He is
    planning an fMRI run that will concentrate
    specifically on religious faith, which Harris thinks
    he now knows how to plumb more deeply. He also plans
    to set up two different subject groups — the faithful
    and non-believers. "That way," among other things, he
    says, "you can ask, 'Do believers believe that Jesus
    was born of a virgin the same way that nonbelievers
    believe that Chevrolet makes cars and trucks?'" It may
    turn out that the brain treats religious faith as its
    own special category of belief unlike ethics and math.

    But that is not what Harris expects to find. He
    suspects the machines will show that "belief is belief
    is belief." And that conclusion, he admits, may put
    him at loggerheads with familiar foes. No one, he
    says, could accuse him or anyone else of trying to
    disprove God's existence on the basis of an fMRI. But
    faith is more vulnerable. "People who feel that
    religious faith is a singular operation of the brain —
    if they admit that it's an operation of the brain at
    all — would object to what I'm doing, since it may
    show that faith is essentially the same as other kinds
    of knowing or thinking. The whole thing will seem
    fishy to anyone who thinks we have immaterial souls
    running around in our bodies."

    Which, of course, a lot of people do. And despite the
    fact that, as Harris puts it, his current literary
    mode "is not beach reading," they may find that they
    are keeping up with his academic writings more avidly
    — and nervously — than they do his bestsellers.


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    https://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1694723,00.html?xid=newsletter-weekly





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    decterlove
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    Re: What Your Brain Looks Like on Faith

    Yeah but how does that article relate to this article, Miles?

    https://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2...h.neuroscience
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    "Mad" Miles
     

    Re: What Your Brain Looks Like on Faith

    Quote Posted in reply to the post by decterlove: View Post
    Yeah but how does that article relate to this article, Miles?

    https://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2...h.neuroscience
    Dunno,

    I jest fo'wad's 'em, if'n they look iner'estin.

    Because of the debates about belief, science and epistemology on this board, I thought the article about brain scans and faith was apropos.

    I glanced at the precis above. Doan see no contradickshun. Mebbe ya shud aisk Gawd?

    It's late for me, I've the rest of the new posts on this board to clear. I'm particularly interested in what my old friend Fred Dolan has been up to as a new contributor.

    Saw "Predator vs. Alien: Requiem" today, might write about it tomorrow.

    "Mad" Muddled Miles

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