German Shepherd puppies

[wisewomn]

I believe there is a distinction between "owners" and "breeders." And there are irresponsible breeders as well as owners (eg, puppy mills) who should spay/neuter.

So you are relying on "not responsible" people to keep the purebred lineages?

[Barry]

...And there are irresponsible breeders as well as owners (eg, puppy mills) who should spay/neuter.

Can you allow that there are also responsible breeders, too?

[wisewomn]

Q.E.D.

Can you allow that there are also responsible breeders, too?

[Jude Iam]

OH YES - THE PIC THAT LAUNCHED TEN THOUSAND SPAY/NEUTERINGS!!!
AD CAMPAIGNS for Humane Society, ETC... BRILLIANT.
if you don't mind, i'll send it to HS, and others can send out to shelters they like. THIS WILL GO VIRAL.
BRAVO. thanks, Jude

Q.E.D.

[William Allan Shearer]

Responsible breeders of quality dogs don't sell them for $400, and they don't advertise on wacco. Only puppy mills and intentionally or unintentionally backyard bred dogs are available at that price.

Barry wrote

"I agree that there are far too many mixed breed dogs, that are available for free or cheap. But what does breeding prurebreds, at $400+ per dog have to do with the mixed breed over population problem? I doubt few if any of these expensive puppies end up in a shelter.

Seems to me the problem is that, either intentionally or unintentionally, too many mixed breeds are breeding (god, I sound like a nazi) . The social pressure/education to prevent this should be directed to owners/companions of mixed breeds (or even purebred - I had 2 wonderful goldens that I didn't breed) and the future companion human (aka dog owners) and not the breeders,

As long as there is demand there will be supply."

[wisewomn]

Do so with my blessings, Jude. :-)

OH YES - THE PIC THAT LAUNCHED TEN THOUSAND SPAY/NEUTERINGS!!!
AD CAMPAIGNS for Humane Society, ETC... BRILLIANT.
if you don't mind, i'll send it to HS, and others can send out to shelters they like. THIS WILL GO VIRAL.
BRAVO. thanks, Jude

[mzcharj]

Dodie
You are a piece of work. Unbelievably rude and condescending
I have to block this message board because I cannot tolerate anymore that comes out of your mouth. You do not know what you are talking about!

[Barry]

Black Labs Matter/All Labs Matter

Cute but you didn't answer the question.
Is there such a thing as a responsible (backyard) breeder?
If so, what makes it responsible?

[Barry]

What do responsible breeders do?

Responsible breeders of quality dogs don't sell them for $400, and they don't advertise on wacco. Only puppy mills and intentionally or unintentionally backyard bred dogs are available at that price.

[William Allan Shearer]

Glad you asked!

If you are responsible your dogs will not be bred until they are old enough to be tested for hereditary health problems like hip dysplasia and heart disease, they will be proven superior representatives of their breed by their show record and/ or performance field tests, your puppies that are not destined for show will be fixed before you rehome them, they will be returned to you if they do not work out for the buyer and you will have buyers lined up before you breed your bitch. These puppies cost closer to $4000 than $400 and the breeder will approve your resume and home before selling one to you. If this is too much you should adopt and not buy your dog from a substandard irresponsible breeder.
Dodie

What do responsible breeders do?

[wisewomn]

The answer you want from me is implicit in the post you referred to, Barry: "And there are irresponsible breeders as well as owners ..."

Cute but you didn't answer the question.
Is there such a thing as a responsible (backyard) breeder?
If so, what makes it responsible?

[BethLinley]

Will people EVER understand what "Black Lives Matter" means!?

[wisewomn]

Did you not say that your dog accidentally got pregnant? That qualifies as "unintentionally backyard bred," does it not?
Do you think you could submit a post without name-calling?

Dodie
You are a piece of work. Unbelievably rude and condescending
I have to block this message board because I cannot tolerate anymore that comes out of your mouth. You do not know what you are talking about!

[gypsey]

Since I "started" the informational part of this thread about breeding and pricing, I urge you to now be fair and recognize that the poster who advertised her pups for $400 that started all this furor, was in a different situation, neither a backyard or puppy mill breeder for profit.

Responsible breeders of quality dogs don't sell them for $400, and they don't advertise on wacco. Only puppy mills and intentionally or unintentionally backyard bred dogs are available at that price.

[wisewomn]

Quite so, Gypsey. I think that has been made clear in other posts. She was an unintentional backyard breeder but undoubtedly there was some profit involved, since her dog did most of the work and there were several puppies in the litter. Maybe the $400 each was an attempt to insure the dogs would go to invested, responsible people, but unfortunately, money isn't always a guarantor of that.

...neither a backyard or puppy mill breeder for profit.