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    Re: Vaccines as Biological Weapons?

    This stunningly shocking event should right now be the lead story in all our so-called news media. It's real, it's true, and it's being almost completely ignored.

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    Re: Vaccines as Biological Weapons?

    Interesting, though the following opinions, found at the link below, offer a plausible-sounding explanation. Who knows the real story?

    Vaccines as Biological Weapons? Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18 Countries by Mike Adams the Health Ranger


    This was a mistake in pre-clinical research. The virus was to be given to ferrets and would never have been in line to enter humans regardless of the results. Not at trial stage, and certainly not on a mass vaccination scale. Now think about that. If as the article suggests, this was a deliberate attempt at population control then it was a totally retarded one. Far more retarded than some intern mixing up two similar-looking cryo vials. Baxter knew where those samples were headed- to an animal lab. Are they trying to control the population of bred-for-research ferrets? And Baxter knew that a breach like this would be reported widely and damage their reputation. So we're expected to believe that they risked all that to kill a cage full of ferrets. That makes absolutely no sense at all.
    The Biologista 3/6





    What better way? By directly sending it to a clinic of course. When virologists do animal work they always treat the virus as if it's lethal, regardless of what the label says. So this sample was already being treated as if it were H5N1 or worse. It's a terrible, terrible way to get the virus into the population, if that were the goal. For it to have any chance of working you'd have to do it thousands and thousands of times, just to get one single minor breach of containment. The conspiracy theory version of this demands that Big Pharma be on the one hand devious and intelligent and yet on the other hand short sighted and stupid. The simpler explanation is that they screwed up honestly, and the simplest explanation is most often the truth. Even when the alternative isn't a retarded idea.
    The Biologista 3/12

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    Re: Vaccines as Biological Weapons?

    Quote Interesting, though the following opinions, found at the link below, offer a plausible-sounding explanation. Who knows the real story?
    That 'opinion' makes no sense at all. This wasn't 'two similar-looking cryo vials' being mixed up and headed to a single ferret experiment, it was LIVE AVIAN FLU VIRUS (the human strain) sent out to medical distributors in 18 countries for introduction into human vaccines.

    The following is from the original story, and I see no other logical possibility. Do you?

    Possibility #1: Baxter isn't following BSL3 safety guidelines or is so sloppy in following them that it can make monumental mistakes that threaten the safety of the entire human race. And if that's the case, then why are we injecting our children with vaccines made from Baxter's materials?

    Possibility #2: A rogue employee (or an evil plot from the top management) is present at Baxter, whereby live avian flu viruses were intentionally placed into the vaccine materials in the hope that such materials might be injected into humans and set off a global bird flu pandemic.


    Either it was an inexcusable accident or it was intentional. I can't decide which is worse.
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