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    Zeno Swijtink
     

    Bad guys really do get the most girls

    Bad guys really do get the most girls
    18 June 2008

    NICE guys knew it, now two studies have confirmed it: bad boys get the most girls. The finding may help explain why a nasty suite of antisocial personality traits known as the "dark triad" persists in the human population, despite their potentially grave cultural costs.

    The traits are the self-obsession of narcissism; the impulsive, thrill-seeking and callous behaviour of psychopaths; and the deceitful and exploitative nature of Machiavellianism. At their extreme, these traits would be highly detrimental for life in traditional human societies. People with these personalities risk being shunned by others and shut out of relationships, leaving them without a mate, hungry and vulnerable to predators.

    But being just slightly evil could have an upside: a prolific sex life, says Peter Jonason at New Mexico State University in Las Cruces. "We have some evidence that the three traits are really the same thing and may represent a successful evolutionary strategy."

    Jonason and his colleagues subjected 200 college students to personality tests designed to rank them for each of the dark triad traits. They also asked about their attitudes to sexual relationships and about their sex lives, including how many partners they'd had and whether they were seeking brief affairs.

    “High 'dark triad' scorers are more likely to try to poach other people's partners for a brief affair”

    The study found that those who scored higher on the dark triad personality traits tended to have more partners and more desire for short-term relationships, Jonason reported at the Human Behavior and Evolution Society meeting in Kyoto, Japan, earlier this month. But the correlation only held in males.

    James Bond epitomises this set of traits, Jonason says. "He's clearly disagreeable, very extroverted and likes trying new things - killing people, new women." Just as Bond seduces woman after woman, people with dark triad traits may be more successful with a quantity-style or shotgun approach to reproduction, even if they don't stick around for parenting. "The strategy seems to have worked. We still have these traits," Jonason says.

    This observation seems to hold across cultures. David Schmitt of Bradley University in Peoria, Illinois, presented preliminary results at the same meeting from a survey of more than 35,000 people in 57 countries. He found a similar link between the dark triad and reproductive success in men. "It is universal across cultures for high dark triad scorers to be more active in short-term mating," Schmitt says. "They are more likely to try and poach other people's partners for a brief affair."

    Barbara Oakley of Oakland University in Rochester, Michigan, says that the studies "verify something a lot of people have conjectured about".

    Christopher von Rueden of the University of California at Santa Barbara says that the studies are important because they confirm that personality variation has direct fitness consequences.

    "They still have to explain why it hasn't spread to everyone," says Matthew Keller of the University of Colorado in Boulder. "There must be some cost of the traits." One possibility, both Keller and Jonason suggest, is that the strategy is most successful when dark triad personalities are rare. Otherwise, others would become more wary and guarded.

    From issue 2661 of New Scientist magazine, 18 June 2008, page 12
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    Re: Bad guys really do get the most girls

    Or does it speak to how stupid and gullible some women are, especially at the immature stages of life, with age not being important.
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    Re: Bad guys really do get the most girls

    Oh no, you don't get it .
    Women get the leftovers, the nice men!

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    Oh no, you don't get it .
    Women get the leftovers, the nice men!
    Again, you bring me to one knee, head bowed.
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    Moon
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    Re: Bad guys really do get the most girls

    No, it's not stupidity (i score around 160 on IQ tests) or gullibility (harder to measure,
    but i don't think i'm all that gullible--and my live-in guru agrees!) What i now know
    it was for me--and, i suspect, for many of the womyn still suffering from it--is that
    feeling of excitement that surrounds such men. A person who's dangerous is exciting,
    so as long as he seems not to be life-threateningly dangerous, that can add to
    his sexiness. It simply takes time, experience and reflection to learn to experience,
    in a visceral way, traits that are exciting in a subtler way. Also: Girls say Yes to boys
    who say No! I've never fucked military or ex-military, and i never will.

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