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    Valley Oak
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    Are humans animals?

    I've heard people express the idea the we humans are animals. But isn't that indignant to compare ourselves to dogs and the cattle we eat? To worms, maggots, vultures, plankton, amoeba, viruses, and bacteria? Aren't we humans better and smarter than animals? Aren't we supposed to be civilized and not like savages or beasts? From a religious perspective, don't we have a soul or some kind of spirit that will continue to live after we die? Is it not that we are 'humans' and, therefore, all other species are 'animals?'

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    MsTerry
     

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    VO
    Did you forget to list the people you don't want to respond to this vent?


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    I've heard people express the idea the we humans are animals. But isn't that indignant to compare ourselves to dogs and the cattle we eat? To worms, maggots, vultures, plankton, amoeba, viruses, and bacteria? Aren't we humans better and smarter than animals? Aren't we supposed to be civilized and not like savages or beasts? From a religious perspective, don't we have a soul or some kind of spirit that will continue to live after we die? Is it not that we are 'humans' and, therefore, all other species are 'animals?'

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    Valley Oak
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    Re: Are humans animals?

    This is an official 'open vent' thread. All persuasions are encouraged to participate and ramble on into infinity, ad naseum. Thank you for asking. I did forget to announce and describe this fine cultural happening appropriately.

    Edward

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    Reportanddeport
     

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    HI GUYS, IT'S ME!
    Well, you're not a plant, so you MUST be an animal.
    You don't HAVE a soul, you ARE a soul. But don't make too much of it because the Abortionists will think that you're trying to humanize the unborn.

    Dogs and cats have/are souls. I saw a bumper sticker that said that "animals are little people in fur coats", which I believe.

    A cat is soooo much like a woman: Moody, temperamental, affectionate when THEY feel like it, but they have no use for you when try to befriend them.
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    Valley Oak
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    I was just able to read the following in the last post to this thread:
    This message is hidden because Reportanddeport is on your ignore list.
    I get more pleasure and satisfaction from reading this than I would from a normal, visible post to this thread.

    Edward

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    This is an official 'open vent' thread. All persuasions are encouraged to participate and ramble on into infinity, ad naseum. Thank you for asking. I did forget to announce and describe this fine cultural happening appropriately.

    Edward
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    Re: Are humans animals?

    Depending on how you view it, you might consider humans to be categorically different, or more developed in certain ways but less so/have regressed in others.

    Clearly we have an instinctual nature like animals, and for the most part they are better on that level than we are, whereas we're more intellectually developed. It may be questionable as to whether that makes us better, period, though - after all it's not hard to see how the instincts can be dulled to where it doesn't help you, and the intellect is simply occupied with a bunch of trivial information like celebrity lifestyle, "reality shows" or whatever. Of course, this kind of preoccupation tends to be a product of conditioning, which is something we have in common with animals and where that saying comes from.

    As far as the idea of a soul or spirit, depending on who you talk to not only is it a matter of a religious perspective, but some will consider it categorically different from a mental perspective. These folks will tell you that talking about such things is only processing information from the point of view of the mind, whereas from the point of view of the soul it is mostly mental chatter. Soul, in this case is a simple essence - therefore not a lot of detailed concepts are relevant, and in fact even this thought may be omitted because for many it only prompts further mental activity without any awareness on the soul level. In other words, it's a matter of relating as minds vs. relating as souls.

    In the end it comes down to how you identify, because you can have a body without being totally identified with your physical existence, and the same could be said about being identified with your mind and psyche. It even goes beyond such levels of subtlety and depth, because from some perspectives it is not even localized. Logically, if you don't identify as being a discrete entity localized in this space vs. that dog there, then it is understandable that from this perspective there is simply no higher and no lower, no better or worse. Thats why we have sayings like the classic zen koan "Does a dog have Buddha Nature?" On one level it is clear there is this human body here and that dog there and the two are different, but on another the implication is clearly that there is the same essential nature. But of course, if this essential nature is actually ubiquitous, it's a little silly to say you or something or someone else has it since everything "has" it. Actually, the you that identifies from a perspective of separate existence cannot have it, because it is by definition all pervasive. It is more logical to say it has you. Whatever you think of this, it is actually not that hard to understand conceptually. After all, isn't a person's self image, good, bad or ugly just one part of their mind? It may be tied up with other concepts and interpretations of environmental input, but it is actually only a part of the whole person.
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    Neshamah
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    Re: Are humans animals?

    In biology, humans are animals.

    In philosophy, 'animal' is generally short for 'non-human animal.'

    Since ancient humans wiped out all of our closest relatives, the gulf between humans and the remaining primates is pretty vast, but that was not always the case.

    Modern humans have much greater power to impact the environment, and also much greater knowledge of the effects of our actions. That means we have a degree of moral responsibility from which most if not all other animals are exempt.

    Now that I think about it, we are not much more intelligent than apes, and if brain size and complexity are any indication, we are probably a lot less intelligent than whales and dolphins. What sets humans apart is not our brains but the collected knowledge of multiple cultures over thousands of years. How much do you know from using the scientific method, and how much do you know from books? I know the sun is 8 light minutes away and is among the top 4% of stars in the universe in terms of luminosity, but I have never verified it. I trust my sources. I wonder what conclusions a dolphin might reach if we could communicate to them a summary of human knowledge.

    As for souls, my source is Scripture, and according to that, the soul is simply what makes you alive. What makes you who you are is physical. The Greek notion of an incorporeal soul is interesting, but not necessary to explain self-awareness. Self-awareness is of course not unique to humans, and is probably much more common than is commonly accepted.

    ~ Neshamah
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    Moon
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    Re: Are humans animals?

    On this planet, if you're a living being, your only choices are: animal, plant, fungus
    bacterium and prokaryote (non-nucleated, single-cell life form.) So unless you're, say,
    a tree, a mushroom, an android, an extraterrestrial or something microscopic,
    yes, you're an animal. As to having souls, some people who've experienced
    cardiac arrest and then been revived report seeing and touching cats or dogs who
    had preceded them. For me or anyone with a fundamental science education,
    "Are humans animals?" is too easy. What i consider a more interesting question
    is "Are humans the only species of people on Earth?" Before you say Yes, consider
    this: If you live to see the time when Terrans make contact with life forms from
    other planets, how will you decide which of those species are species of people?

    I've heard people express the idea the we humans are animals. But isn't that indignant to compare ourselves to dogs and the cattle [some of us] eat? To worms, maggots, vultures, plankton, amoebae, viruses, and bacteria [None of these whose names are italicized are animals.]? Aren't we humans better and smarter than animals? Aren't we supposed to be civilized and not like savages [Savages are humans.] or beasts? From a religious perspective, don't we have a soul or some kind of spirit that will continue to live after we die? Is it not that we are 'humans' and, therefore, all other species are 'animals?'
    Edward
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    Re: Are humans animals?

    AS Soon as I was able to get over being Human, I learned to enjoy life!
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    Re: Are humans animals?

    Quote Posted in reply to the post by Valley Oak: View Post
    I was just able to read the following in the last post to this thread:
    This message is hidden because Reportanddeport is on your ignore list.
    I get more pleasure and satisfaction from reading this than I would from a normal, visible post to this thread.

    Edward

    Ive seem a few of these you put up latley. This is more annoying that your usual self big boy, what did they do to get added to your ignore list, did they call you a faggot or what? LMFAO!!! Anyway I think we should all make it a challenge to try and see whom can get on Dear VOGDE {VERY OLE GAY DUDE EDWARDS ] ignore list!! I WANNA JOIN!!!!!! Then I might not be tempted to respond to your extremely stupid posts!!!!!!!!!!!! NO DISRESPECT just wanna clear a few things up. Please post something worth venting over dear!
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    Re: Are humans animals?

    OH BTW THis was a VENT!

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    Ive seem a few of these you put up latley. This is more annoying that your usual self big boy, what did they do to get added to your ignore list, did they call you a faggot or what? LMFAO!!! Anyway I think we should all make it a challenge to try and see whom can get on Dear VOGDE {VERY OLE GAY DUDE EDWARDS ] ignore list!! I WANNA JOIN!!!!!! Then I might not be tempted to respond to your extremely stupid posts!!!!!!!!!!!! NO DISRESPECT just wanna clear a few things up. Please post something worth venting over dear!
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    Re: Are humans animals?

    But why is that interesting, because we are also people, life forms with a personal consciousness? Couldn't other forms of life that are non-people, whatever that may mean, also be fascinating? Granted it would be something we have in common, but that may not be all. Anyway, it seems to me both similarities and differences can be interesting.

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    What i consider a more interesting question
    is "Are humans the only species of people on Earth?" Before you say Yes, consider
    this: If you live to see the time when Terrans make contact with life forms from
    other planets, how will you decide which of those species are species of people?
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    scorpiomoon
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    But why is that interesting, we are also people, life forms with a personal consciousness?
    I know from a technical scientific point of view, yes, I am a human. On the other hand, I think sometimes, maybe all this life everywhere is just a figment of my imagination, floating in the heat. If we weren't communicating through language or telepathy if we are simply molecules put together a certain way to give us the "human" reference point, we could all be anything, really. Surely all life has consciousness even as one molecule combines with another to make a different element. Today, this minute, I am an idea. A twinkle in the eye of my father as he loved my mother or the movement of a butterfly wing, or a simple sound, wind as it moves through the trees.
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    Kermit1941
     

    Re: Are humans animals?

    Kermit is Intrigued by the question " Are humans animals"?

    It also suggests the question, " Are animals human"?

    What do we mean when we say the word "animal"?

    What do we mean when we say the word "Human"?

    "Animal" might be used in an objective way to describe biological
    classification, or it might be used in a subjective way to describe
    your derogatory view of those life forms.

    The question, " Are humans animals?" can be answered yes, with any of the possible meanings of "animal".

    When humans behave in ways that the superEgo condemns, then they are said to be "animals".

    Personally, I think when the SuperEgo condemns, then it's the superego that is undeveloped, not the animal behavior that it condemns.

    In the biological classification of animals, then by definition, humans are animals. We are mammals and primates.

    Are we different than the other mammals or primates in any important way?

    I think not.

    Kermit

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    Valley Oak
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    Re: Are humans animals?

    Splendid reasoning as always, Kermit.

    Thank you,

    Edward

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    Kermit is Intrigued by the question " Are humans animals"?

    It also suggests the question, " Are animals human"?

    What do we mean when we say the word "animal"?

    What do we mean when we say the word "Human"?

    "Animal" might be used in an objective way to describe biological
    classification, or it might be used in a subjective way to describe
    your derogatory view of those life forms.

    The question, " Are humans animals?" can be answered yes, with any of the possible meanings of "animal".

    When humans behave in ways that the superEgo condemns, then they are said to be "animals".

    Personally, I think when the SuperEgo condemns, then it's the superego that is undeveloped, not the animal behavior that it condemns.

    In the biological classification of animals, then by definition, humans are animals. We are mammals and primates.

    Are we different than the other mammals or primates in any important way?

    I think not.

    Kermit

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    "Mad" Miles
     

    Re: Are humans animals?

    I read this a few days ago, thought of this thread. I've copied it here in toto, because the link to the NYT's won't let you at it unless you're a subscriber. This is from last Sunday's NYT's Magazine.

    "Mad" Miles




    Idea Lab
    How Are Humans Unique?




    By MICHAEL TOMASELLO
    Published: May 25, 2008

    Human beings do not like to think of themselves as animals. It is thus with decidedly mixed feelings that we regard the frequent reports that activities once thought to be uniquely human are also performed by other species: chimpanzees who make and use tools, parrots who use language, ants who teach. Is there anything left?

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    You might think that human beings at least enjoy the advantage of being more generally intelligent. To test this idea, my colleagues and I recently administered an array of cognitive tests — the equivalent of nonverbal I.Q. tests — to adult chimpanzees and orangutans (two of our closest primate relatives) and to 2-year-old human children. As it turned out, the children were not more skillful overall. They performed about the same as the apes on the tests that measured how well they understood the physical world of space, quantities and causality. The children performed better only on tests that measured social skills: social learning, communicating and reading the intentions of others.

    But such social gifts make all the difference. Imagine a child born alone on a desert island and somehow magically kept alive. What would this child’s cognitive skills look like as an adult — with no one to teach her, no one to imitate, no pre-existing tools, no spoken or written language? She would certainly possess basic skills for dealing with the physical world, but they would not be particularly impressive. She would not invent for herself English, or Arabic numerals, or metal knives, or money. These are the products of collective cognition; they were created by human beings, in effect, putting their heads together.

    When you look at apes and children in situations requiring them to put their heads together, a subtle but significant difference emerges. We have observed that children, but not chimpanzees, expect and even demand that others who have committed themselves to a joint activity stay involved and not shirk their duties. When children want to opt out of an activity, they recognize the existence of an obligation to help the group — they know that they must, in their own way, “take leave” to make amends. Humans structure their collaborative actions with joint goals and shared commitments.

    Another subtle but crucial difference can be seen in communication. The great apes — chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas and orangutans — communicate almost exclusively for the purpose of getting others to do what they want. Human infants, in addition, gesture and talk in order to share information with others — they want to be helpful. They also share their emotions and attitudes freely — as when an infant points to a passing bird for its mother and squeals with glee. This unprompted sharing of information and attitudes can be seen as a forerunner of adult gossip, which ensures that members of a group can pool their knowledge and know who is or is not behaving cooperatively. The free sharing of information also creates the possibility of pedagogy — in which adults impart information by telling and showing, and children trust and use this information with confidence. Our nearest primate relatives do not teach and learn in this manner.

    Finally, human infants, but not chimpanzees, put their heads together in pretense. This seemingly useless play activity is in fact a first baby step toward the creation of distinctively human social institutions. In social institutions, participants typically endow someone or something with special powers and obligations; they create roles like president or teacher or wife. Presidents and teachers and wives operate with special powers and obligations because, and only because, we all believe and act as if they fill these roles and have these powers. Two young children pretending together that a stick is a horse have thus taken their first step on the road not just to Oz but also toward inhabiting human institutional reality.

    Human beings have evolved to coordinate complex activities, to gossip and to playact together. It is because they are adapted for such cultural activities — and not because of their cleverness as individuals — that human beings are able to do so many exceptionally complex and impressive things.

    Of course, humans beings are not cooperating angels; they also put their heads together to do all kinds of heinous deeds. But such deeds are not usually done to those inside “the group.” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.” The remarkable human capacity for cooperation thus seems to have evolved mainly for interactions within the group. Such group-mindedness is a major cause of strife and suffering in the world today. The solution — more easily said than done — is to find new ways to define the group.

    Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.

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    Kermit1941
     

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    Quote Posted in reply to the post by Mad Miles: View Post
    I read this a few days ago, thought of this thread. I've copied it here in toto, because the link to the NYT's won't let you at it unless you're a subscriber. This is from last Sunday's NYT's Magazine.

    "Mad" Miles




    Idea Lab
    How Are Humans Unique?




    By MICHAEL TOMASELLO
    Published: May 25, 2008

    Human beings do not like to think of themselves as animals. I


    The remarkable human capacity for cooperation thus seems to have evolved mainly for interactions within the group. Such group-mindedness is a major cause of strife and suffering in the world today. The solution — more easily said than done — is to find new ways to define the group.

    Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.


    This is why people of Peace think of all of humanity as their group.

    I yearn for the day when children of all cultures will be taught to classify them selves as human versus as American, Mexican, Iranian, etc.

    I hope for the day
    when all peoples recognize our common humanity, and not allow differences of culture or religion to divide us. Perhaps then we will enter a paradise, created by all peoples working together to create Heaven on Earth.

    Kermit
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    MsTerry
     

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    I yearn for the day when children of all cultures will be taught to classify them selves as human versus as American, Mexican, Iranian, etc.
    Kermit
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    Personally I mourn the loss of identity, the uniqueness that made people strife to be better and proud for their own people. The days that you could tell where a person was from, just from the way they dressed.
    About 20 years ago I turned a corner while walking in Kerala, India.
    A huge picture of Michael Jackson was painted on a wall.
    I knew instantly that globalization is taking over the world, and it ain't pretty.
    Everywhere you go it will be IPod, Laptop and Youtube for brains.
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    Kermit1941
     

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    Personally I mourn the loss of identity, the uniqueness that made people strife to be better and proud for their own people. The days that you could tell where a person was from, just from the way they dressed.
    About 20 years ago I turned a corner while walking in Kerala, India.
    A huge picture of Michael Jackson was painted on a wall.
    I knew instantly that globalization is taking over the world, and it ain't pretty.
    Everywhere you go it will be IPod, Laptop and Youtube for brains.

    Hello Ms Terry. :)

    Development of society is from simple to complex. I hope our common goal is that people everywhere accept all other peoples as human, and not let their differences divide them.

    I would like it to be possible for a person to walk through and make friends in any part of the world.

    It is of course desirable that humanity retain its cultural flavors. I cannot predict in detail what will be lost in the future development of humanity. We have only a few general principles to guide our thinking about it.

    What recipes for fixing supper will be lost? What techniques for catching fish will be lost? We see the trend for our most basic needs being met by machines and fewer and fewer workers.

    One of the general principles for development of humanity is this:

    As the population grows, so will our differences.

    While Michele Jackson and Superman stories permeate the entire world, other subtle differences will emerge. We will still be able to tell from what corner of the world a person is from, provided we have made a study of global differences.






    As we recognize out common humanity, it will also enable us to recognize our commonality with all life on Earth.


    How human are the other primates? What feelings do your pets have?


    We should develop a framework that allows us to value diversity and universal acceptance of differences. Our current hangup is that many political leaders have realized that one way to power is to play one group of people against another.




    Kermit

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    thewholetruth
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    Personally I mourn the loss of identity, the uniqueness that made people strife to be better and proud for their own people. The days that you could tell where a person was from, just from the way they dressed.
    About 20 years ago I turned a corner while walking in Kerala, India.
    A huge picture of Michael Jackson was painted on a wall.
    I knew instantly that globalization is taking over the world, and it ain't pretty.
    Everywhere you go it will be IPod, Laptop and Youtube for brains.
    I mourn the loss of identity, as well. Being a Mutt (English, Irish, Native American), it's not that I have some homeland nationalism that I cling to. I am an American, born and raised in the Melting Pot of the World. Suddenly everyone's hypersensitive to even referring to someone as a "Mexican" or an "Arab". Back in the day (ahhhh, good times, good times) if you were Mexican you were Mexican and everyone knew it and really no one gave a crap or thought it made you different. Today, it's an insult to call someone a Mexican, thank you Political Correctness.

    Liberalism is ruining America by trying to homogenate everyone. Viva le difference, I say, and besides, I want to know who the Arabs are. (LOL)
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    Valley Oak
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    Re: Are humans animals?

    Kermit, I'm fascinated by your statement, which I quoted below. The strong assumption I have always held is that as globalization (or progress or the 'global village') develops, all nations will increasingly be blended into one giant culture. Wouldn't that decrease differences? Explain, if you will.

    Thanks,

    Edward

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    ...One of the general principles for development of humanity is this:

    As the population grows, so will our differences...
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    Umm, ok then; seems all I’m getting out of this is ”KILL A HUMAN FOR HUMANITY”! I dunno maybe it’s just me…
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    Kermit, I'm fascinated by your statement, which I quoted below. The strong assumption I have always held is that as globalization (or progress or the 'global village') develops, all nations will increasingly be blended into one giant culture. Wouldn't that decrease differences? Explain, if you will.Thanks,Edward
    The other day, on the radio, a guy in some other country, married a cow and the whole village thought it was "groovy". And children were being kidnapped, about 3,000 a week, to be turned into hookers or killed in ritualistic sacrifice.
    I don't think Mickyee Dees or Coca-PepsCo is going to make us "all one culture" anytime soon. Kermit may have an easier time explaining the Unified Field Theory to me. And as a Dr. Ron Paul supporter, you already know how thick I am.
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    Kermit1941
     

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    Quote Posted in reply to the post by Valley Oak: View Post
    Kermit, I'm fascinated by your statement, which I quoted below. The strong assumption I have always held is that as globalization (or progress or the 'global village') develops, all nations will increasingly be blended into one giant culture. Wouldn't that decrease differences? Explain, if you will.

    Thanks,

    Edward
    Here is a visual analogy:

    Development is like a clay sphere that, while keeping the same volume of clay, expands outward by breaking apart and realigning its parts into an increasingly complex network of tubes.

    As we progress toward one giant worldwide culture, that culture will be increasingly complex. Not only will we have residuals of each of today's dominant religions and other aspects of culture, but will also have the interactions among them.

    Many interactions that are inhibited today by geographic separation
    will occur with increasing frequency.

    The example of the young child who listens to both creative science dogma and evolution theory and figures out a way for both to be right,

    will be repeated for Islamic versus Christianity, [ Already happened in the Bahia ] , rural versus urban, intellectual versus feeling, etc.

    Every pair of opposing ideas and ideals will be subject to attempted reconciliation.

    There will be increasingly specializations of philosophy and lifestyles, which will not have much to do with geography.

    Although you may see deliberately planned communities around particular philosophies. { Conscious life }


    Some small percentage of the population will speak for the animals that cannot speak to us.

    Some small percentage of the population will control the means of food production.

    Some small percentage of the population will control mass entertainment.

    etc

    Unless we plan for redundant capability for our basic needs, society will become more and more at risk of collapse.

    We cannot ( yet? ) prevent vital parts of our body from failing.
    By wise planning, we can prevent vital parts of our society from failing.




    Kermit
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