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    Mayan Countdown to 2012 AD: The Last 5.1 Yrs(2007-2012 AD)

    Mayan Countdown to 2012 AD:
    The Last 5.1 Yrs(2007-2012 AD)

    If the Mayan calendar is correct, we have 5.1 years left of time as we know it. Beginning on November 5th, 2007 we supposedly enter the most condensed time period of the 4th Mayan World of Water leading to the the infamous date of Dec.21st, 2012 AD -the Mayan end-time date. After this, we enter the final Fifth World Age of Ether or Creativity.

    Each Mayan World Age lasts 5125.36 years or 1,872,000 days, and there are five such periods totalling the Mayan Great Year of 25,626.83 years. We are now at the end of the 4th Mayan World which began August 13th, 3113 BC -supposedly the time of the Great Flood of Noah.

    This present 5125-year World Age, like the others before it, can be seen to have four major octaves, each octave being ten times shorter and more condensed than the previous one by a factor of ten. The octave periods are as follows...

    5125yrs
    3113BC-2012ADMayan 4th World
    512.5yrs
    1500-2012ADThe Modern Age
    51.25yrs
    1961-2012ADThe Last Generation
    5.125yrs
    2007-2012ADThe Pole Shift

    Each successive period is ten times shorter, yet ten times more intense. The last 512 years were ten times more intense than the whole 4th World period. The last 51-year End Time period is 100 times more intense than the whole 4th World period and ten times more intense than the whole Modern era of the New World or Americas. The last 5-year period will be 1000 times more intense than the whole 4th World period, 100 times more intense than the Modern era, and 10 times more intense than the Last Generation period. Every 5125-year period intensifies in this manner untill it is ended by a worldwide flood, fire, or other global catastrophe, from which humanity has to start all over again.

    The Last 5.1 Yrs(2007-2012 AD)

    The last 5.1 year period of this watery World Age(each 5125-year Age is represented by an element), is the time when the most intense blending of the 4th and 5th dimensions occur, naturally affecting our physical 3rd dimension.

    Since we are moving from the 4th world of water to the 5th world of ether we are also moving from the 4th to the 5th dimension. The 4th dimension is the astral world ruled by emotions and feelings which presently dominates humans. The fifth dimension is the spiritual world of ether ruled by love and creativity. In the coming Fifth Age/World/Dimension humans will become divine again dominated by and functioniong in their newly reawakened or re-anchored lightbodies. This may not happen all of a sudden. While a few have already reached this stage, the vast majority of us will attain it gradually over the years, decades, and centuries ahead. Even the Bible speaks of a time soon coming(the Millennium) when we shall discard our old(physical) bodies and put on the new(spiritual or light bodies). The coming new age of Light will be a time of rebuilding and regenerating on all levels.

    According to José Arguelles in his ground-breaking book "The Mayan Factor: Path Beyond Technology", the closer we approach 2012, the more our planet will be "humming and vibrating" as never before(page 194, 3rd para). He describes the final 5-year period(2007-2012) as being "singularly directed to the emplacement of galactic synchronization crews at all the planetary light-body grid-nodes."(same page & para.). He then goes on to describe how these crews align every last one of us with the planet's light body(para.4). Then comes the festive and spectacular moment of synchronization and unity when humans and all life forms become one with the planet and start a new interplanetary age(para.5). An electric surge infuses the new humanity and runs from pole to pole illuminating the entire planet and throwing it into another dimension(para.6). In this dimension we shall be reunited with the angels and saints and all of the higher cosmic beings that have watched over us for so long(page 195, para.1). What follows is a 500-year Golden Age(para.2). Sounds far-fetched, but Arguelles says it's what the Mayan prophecies promise. We'll see.

    The 4th World Age(some say 5th) comes to an end at the winter solstice of 2012 AD which occurs exactly at 11:13 AM London time on December 21st of that year. If we subtract 5.125 years from this point we come to November 5th, 2007, or the start date of the last 5.1 year period. A second set of four octaves can be derived by dividing the last 5.125 years by a successive factor of 10, resulting in the following sub periods...

    .5125yrs
    Jun.18 - Dec.21, 2012 AD(6.15 mths)?
    .0512 yrs
    Dec.2 - Dec.21, 2012AD(18.7 days)?
    .0051yrs
    Dec.19 - Dec.21, 2012AD(1.87 days)?
    .0005yrs
    6:43-11:13 AM Dec.21, 2012AD(4.5 hrs)?

    This tenfold process can continue ad infinitum, down to to the micro or nanosecond, increasing exponentially in speed and intensity, and penetrating to the cellular, atomic, and sub-atomic levels. What each octave means in the prophetic sense is largely speculative, although the six months period may refer to a period of intense global tribulation, crisis, or transformation. 18.7 days to 26 minutes is the duration span of most of the cells in your body and below this are the molecular, atomic, and subatomic lifespans, so that the other three octaves may affect us on a more personal or individual basis.

    As is well known, it's been the trend for most prophecies and their timing to be incorrect or misleading, and Dec.21, 2012 may come and go with nothing notable happening. It may be that it is simply a midway point of a much vaster and more imperceptible trend or transition period taking perhaps hundreds of years. Or it may simply be a mistaken or fabricated date. What is certain, however, is that we are riding an ever-accelerating rate or increase in knowledge, technology, and climate change, and that it must, at some point soon, reach its unimaginable crescendo. Where we go from there is anyone's guess.

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    Re: Mayan Countdown to 2012 AD: The Last 5.1 Yrs(2007-2012 AD)

    Would love to know where you sourced this information. Thanks, Judy

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    Mayan Countdown to 2012 AD:
    The Last 5.1 Yrs(2007-2012 AD)
    If the Mayan calendar is correct, we have 5.1 years left of time as we know it. Beginning on November 5th, 2007 we supposedly enter the most condensed time period of the 4th Mayan World of Water leading to the the infamous date of Dec.21st, 2012 AD -the Mayan end-time date. After this, we enter the final Fifth World Age of Ether or Creativity.
    ...
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    Re: Mayan Countdown to 2012 AD: The Last 5.1 Yrs(2007-2012 AD)

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    Would love to know where you sourced this information. Thanks, Judy
    https://www.librarising.com/cosmology/mayan.html

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    Re: Mayan Countdown to 2012 AD: The Last 5.1 Yrs(2007-2012 AD)

    Thanks, Barry. It is time to "wake-up". A new dimension of peace and living heart to heart. You can feel it transforming all around you.

    Mala

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    Mayan Countdown to 2012 AD:
    The Last 5.1 Yrs(2007-2012 AD)

    If the Mayan calendar is correct, we have 5.1 years left of time as we know it. Beginning on November 5th, 2007 we supposedly enter the most condensed time period of the 4th Mayan World of Water leading to the the infamous date of Dec.21st, 2012 AD -the Mayan end-time date. After this, we enter the final Fifth World Age of Ether or Creativity....
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    Re: Mayan Countdown to 2012 AD: The Last 5.1 Yrs(2007-2012 AD)

    Lets all hope this will be about as uneventful as the 2000 computer hype!
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    Re: Mayan Countdown to 2012 AD: The Last 5.1 Yrs(2007-2012 AD)

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    Lets all hope this will be about as uneventful as the 2000 computer hype!
    I'm actually hoping it will be quite eventful! Many things could shift for the better!

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    Re: Mayan Countdown to 2012 AD: The Last 5.1 Yrs(2007-2012 AD)

    Barry,
    You might find it interesting to compare this data with that given by Ian Lungold in this 3 hour lecture:

    https://video.google.com/videoplay?d...90121097&hl=en
    (This is the first 1.5 hours, the 2nd half should be easily findable, and there might be another on youtube)

    The math is different, the interpretation of things speeding up is similar. He describes Mayan pyramids as being in 9 levels/subdivided into 13 sections each having an alternating progression of 7 periods of light and 6 periods of dark. These 9 basic 'ages' until arriving at the center of the galaxy each have the same amount of evolution change - each level is 20x faster.

    The first stage was billions of years, the last is 260 days! - ending 2012 with Earth's arrival at the center of the Milky Way galaxy. His interpretation is that the evolutionary/sociological changes that formerly took billions, then millions, then thousands, then hundreds of years will be moving much more rapidly in these final stages - huge events that change our way of living - like the wars, technologies, science, earth changes, government controls already have.

    In response to so many drums beating so loud I'm extra-appreciating plain old simple daily life these days.

    Alex
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    Re: Mayan Countdown to 2012 AD: The Last 5.1 Yrs(2007-2012 AD)

    To risk an obvious question:

    I've heard the Mayan prophecy info often, but could anyone lead me to whomever's actualy dealing with the primary sources? My understanding is that the vast bulk of Mayan literature was destroyed by the Spanish and that almost nothing remains except stone hieroglyphs and farmer-descendants — am I misremembering? So does this futurist theory derive from far-fetched numerological interpretations, at one extreme, or at the other, an ancient Mayan writing, "The priesthood is in agreement that ... and therefore 2012 AD is going to be rough for the white folks."

    I don't mean to sound frivolous — well, maybe I do, just out of self-preservation — but I'd really like to know.

    Thanks—
    Conrad
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    Re: Mayan Countdown to 2012 AD: The Last 5.1 Yrs(2007-2012 AD)

    Conrad, thank you for asking the $64K question! It was running through my mind, too.

    There has been at least one program running on the Discovery channel (or one of that crowd) that explored these various "doomsday" type prophecies that seem to be common to many cultures. The Mayan 2012 calendar prophesy was included.

    As I recall from the show, the Maya had highly-developed astronomy skills, and the basis of the Winter Solstice 2012 prophesy is that the axis of the Earth's rotation (defined by the north and south poles) wobbles a bit in its journey around the sun. On Winter Solstice 2012, the North pole will point at the center of the Milky Way. In the Mayan culture, this would open a portal to an underworld and allow an evil spirit to manifest on the Earthly plane.

    Which brings us back to the original question: how could this be read or interpreted from what little is left of the Maya records? Is this all an interpretation of the huge stone calendar found under Mexico City and various other stone artifacts?

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    To risk an obvious question:

    I've heard the Mayan prophecy info often, but could anyone lead me to whomever's actualy dealing with the primary sources? My understanding is that the vast bulk of Mayan literature was destroyed by the Spanish and that almost nothing remains except stone hieroglyphs and farmer-descendants — am I misremembering? So does this futurist theory derive from far-fetched numerological interpretations, at one extreme, or at the other, an ancient Mayan writing, "The priesthood is in agreement that ... and therefore 2012 AD is going to be rough for the white folks."

    I don't mean to sound frivolous — well, maybe I do, just out of self-preservation — but I'd really like to know.

    Thanks—
    Conrad
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    On Winter Solstice 2012, the North pole will point at the center of the Milky Way. In the Mayan culture, this would open a portal to an underworld and allow an evil spirit to manifest on the Earthly plane.

    Assuming that this is an accurate reconstruction of what the Mayan tradition says, and further assuming that the astronomy is correct-- why can't that portal open and allow a wonderful, benign spirit to enter, instead?
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    Lets all hope this will be about as uneventful as the 2000 computer hype!
    Not to comment directly on the Mayan-related information, but to offer a few impressions about Y2K and “hype” . . .

    There was a lot of pre- Y2K hype (we heard about it from the mainstream media, remember?). However, the hype made people at least ask questions about the integrity / stability / predictability of their software systems and the impact of the 1999 - 2000 date change on computer-controlled operations.

    The answers to the questions prompted preparations by a lot of programmers and other computer technology specialists that prevented what could have been a very widespread series of mostly inconvenient breakdowns that could have had in the aggregate serious economic disruption. Large companies with significant IT staff decided to take action, to spend millions on fixing the 2-digit date problem, because of identifiable consequences and the possibility of unforseen consequences, and many small companies took heed as well.

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    I just washed a really nice white sweatshirt in my washer at my lovely new home, it came out way dirtier than when I put the little sucker in there to begin with. This is kind of how I felt after watching the video you posted. I had high expectations and then bam! Where the hell did the UFO’s come from, and how on earth did he get this. Pulled it out of thin air all of a sudden, twas doing really good then, utoh he’s losing me! LOL! Twas a great vid anyhow and thank you! I just wished he would have stayed on track and got the true meaning there!


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    Barry,
    You might find it interesting to compare this data with that given by Ian Lungold in this 3 hour lecture:

    https://video.google.com/videoplay?d...90121097&hl=en
    (This is the first 1.5 hours, the 2nd half should be easily findable, and there might be another on youtube)

    The math is different, the interpretation of things speeding up is similar. He describes Mayan pyramids as being in 9 levels/subdivided into 13 sections each having an alternating progression of 7 periods of light and 6 periods of dark. These 9 basic 'ages' until arriving at the center of the galaxy each have the same amount of evolution change - each level is 20x faster.

    The first stage was billions of years, the last is 260 days! - ending 2012 with Earth's arrival at the center of the Milky Way galaxy. His interpretation is that the evolutionary/sociological changes that formerly took billions, then millions, then thousands, then hundreds of years will be moving much more rapidly in these final stages - huge events that change our way of living - like the wars, technologies, science, earth changes, government controls already have.

    In response to so many drums beating so loud I'm extra-appreciating plain old simple daily life these days.

    Alex
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    Hey, wouldn't that be nice! It seems to be a product of the Mayan culture, which was obsessed with death and evil spirits. (They had some good spirits, too, of both the spiritual and libations variety ) There must be at least one mythology that predicts something good coming throught the astro-portal, but that does not seem to be as much of an attention-getter!

    Western astrology also recognizes the Earth's axis-wobble. It is known as the procession of the equinox. It apparently dictates long-cycle "ages" of 2,160 years duration and 25,920 years to complete the full cycle. These ages are separated by a long and blurry transitional period. Personally, I think that the Winter Solstice 2012 line-up is related to the Age of Aquarius. According to some, we've been transitioning into it for at least 200 years. There seems to be a great deal of debate and differing interpretations about when the AofA actually starts.

    There's also the possibility that this is just an interesting astronomical occurrence that has no other significance, much less any effect on earthly life. Much like curses, voodoo, or placebo medication, it only works if you believe that it does.

    Are there any astrologers here who are knowledgeable about the Great Ages who could educate us? What's your take on the Age of Aquarius thing? How about the ramifications of the North Pole line-up with the center of the Milky Way? What's the South Pole pointing at on Winter Solstice 2012? Does that have any significance?

    Susan Miller has a commentary on the Age of Aquarius on her Astrology Zone web site at https://www.astrologyzone.com/forecasts/millennium.html Rio Olesky wrote about the Age of Aquarius in his "Wheel of Light" column a few years ago. (this particular column is not available on his snazzy new web site anymore.)

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    Assuming that this is an accurate reconstruction of what the Mayan tradition says, and further assuming that the astronomy is correct-- why can't that portal open and allow a wonderful, benign spirit to enter, instead?
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    Lets all hope this will be about as uneventful as the 2000 computer hype!
    This Mayan date will, as you say, be uneventful, except for all the nice parties.

    Y2K, however, was anything but uneventful. Industry in the US alone spent about $6 billion making sure nothing problematic happened. Government expenses are unknown but one can imagine at least that much spent.

    Macintosh computer users, of course, suffered no problems and needed no upgrades. Perhaps you use a Macintosh, Mykil? Otherwise, you must have installed patches to keep your machine from melting down.

    Y2K was uneventful for most folks because of the vast amount of resources expended to solve the problem.

    -Jeff
    [Edit: Karl, I just saw your post saying much the same. You're on it.]
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    Re: Mayan Countdown to 2012 AD: The Last 5.1 Yrs(2007-2012 AD)

    Just think; if we could spend about the same amount on gay marriages, all our worries would be over!!! No more recession!!! LMAO!!!


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    This Mayan date will, as you say, be uneventful, except for all the nice parties.

    Y2K, however, was anything but uneventful. Industry in the US alone spent about $6 billion making sure nothing problematic happened. Government expenses are unknown but one can imagine at least that much spent.

    Macintosh computer users, of course, suffered no problems and needed no upgrades. Perhaps you use a Macintosh, Mykil? Otherwise, you must have installed patches to keep your machine from melting down.

    Y2K was uneventful for most folks because of the vast amount of resources expended to solve the problem.

    -Jeff
    [Edit: Karl, I just saw your post saying much the same. You're on it.]
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    Re: Mayan Countdown to 2012 AD: The Last 5.1 Yrs(2007-2012 AD)

    thus far this is what I think on a level that will be about what to expect, we as a whole well learn he value of the electric on off on off hot cold positive negative environment we live in. we are all baste upon this system. I believe we will synchronic. meaning leant to harmonies with the negative energy and positive at once. the friction is ecstatic to our survival. as a tool once we achieve this we can separate from this planet and then start to travel around freely in our new environment as a whole , we will merge, we will become one. traveling the distances of our galaxies in a single thought we will arrive at our destinations and start once again with several billion others that have done the same and we will think we are unique. we will think we area individual and that we are special, taking on billons more years and galaxies to achieve the same thing we just did in order to survive!
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    Hi,

    Doesn't it just feel like it's a good thing, and there's truly nothing to fear? Or is that just me? My head gets me into fear, buy my heart tells me that there's really nothing to worry about.

    My friend Firas is speaking about this next Tuesday, and I know he has related the 'premonition' to beings, alive, now on Mars, as well as Earth. I don't understand it, and I'm hoping I will by Tuesday night. But, has anyone else heard about that??

    Many blessings to us all,

    Kim Heine

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    For the last 5+ years up until May of '08 I was living in San Pedro La Laguna, Guatemala more or less full time. This is a Tzu'tujil Mayan village. I did work with NGO's and also opened a nice little Bistro for travellers. During this time I had first hand experience with some actual Mayan shamans, 3 Tzu'tujil and 1 Cakquichel. I am not a true Mayan scholar, but I have a lot of first hand experience.

    The belief amongst the Mayans I have encountered who actually follow the old ways are much more subtle than the end of days, gravity reversing sort of 2012 junk on YouTube. Barry alluded to the Mayan calendar which can be thought of as wheels within wheels. Simply put there are wheels for shorter periods like days and periods like months, that are not months, and periods for #rs of years. These you could think of as gears that move at a constant speed within each other. In 2012 all of those wheels within wheels turning at their constant rates all return to a zero reset point simultaneously for the first time in over 3000 years.

    To the Shamans I have met this resetting represents a change of consciousness and new beginnings, not a cataclysmic end. The average Mayan person however has no idea of this. Most have never heard of this 2012 date and would have no idea at all what you are talking about. To the Mayans 2012 is no big deal.
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    Just a p.s. for anyone interested in scholarly works about the Mayans and their religion any book by Linda Schiele is a treasure trove of actual archaeological and anthropological work. The museum in Tikal has much of her work in the exhibits.
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