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    scamperwillow's Avatar
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    Blog about the pet food recall and other pet issues

    I just set up a blog where people can talk and report about the pet food recall. There are some links and sources there and also info about all natural human grade Flint River Ranch pet food. Please come join the discussion:

    https://blog.flintriversonomacounty.com/
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    Re: Blog about the pet food recall and other pet issues

    I think those of us that lost (cats especially) an animal prematurely to kidney failure ought to record our losses going back a year or two at least.What were we feeding them back then when they got sick?

    Also, wheat gluten is a very concentrated form of wheat flour.Is it possible that a lot of Chinese wheat has been exposed to this melamine fertiliser and should be suspect? I hope "we" didn't sell it to them!!
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    Re: Blog about the pet food recall and other pet issues

    I would welcome this kind of discussion at the blog:
    https://blog.flintriversonomacounty.com/

    Have any of you had problems with any of this pet food?
    Marty


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    I think those of us that lost (cats especially) an animal prematurely to kidney failure ought to record our losses going back a year or two at least.What were we feeding them back then when they got sick?

    Also, wheat gluten is a very concentrated form of wheat flour.Is it possible that a lot of Chinese wheat has been exposed to this melamine fertiliser and should be suspect? I hope "we" didn't sell it to them!!
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    johnrtaylor474
     

    Re: Blog about the pet food recall and other pet issues

    Have any dog owners in the Sebastopol area researched the pet food recall issue and determined definitively which brands are safe?




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    I think those of us that lost (cats especially) an animal prematurely to kidney failure ought to record our losses going back a year or two at least.What were we feeding them back then when they got sick?

    Also, wheat gluten is a very concentrated form of wheat flour.Is it possible that a lot of Chinese wheat has been exposed to this melamine fertiliser and should be suspect? I hope "we" didn't sell it to them!!
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    Re: Blog about the pet food recall and other pet issues

    I know that the Flint River that I feed my dog is safe:
    www.flintriversonomacounty.com

    Marty in Sebastopol

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    Re: Blog about the pet food recall and other pet issues

    It seems insane to me that a country such as ours that pays people not to grow wheat and gives so much of it away, and with our global energy concerns upmost these days, that we use ginormous amounts of fossil fuels to ship something of which we have an excess...from China! Can anyone splain? Btw I think Wysong is an excellent product for cats and dogs. Mindy

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    Also, wheat gluten is a very concentrated form of wheat flour.Is it possible that a lot of Chinese wheat has been exposed to this melamine fertiliser and should be suspect? I hope "we" didn't sell it to them!!
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    "Mad" Miles
     

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    "It seems insane to me that a country such as ours that pays people not to grow wheat and gives so much of it away, and with our global energy concerns upmost these days, that we use ginormous amounts of fossil fuels to ship something of which we have an excess...from China! Can anyone splain?"

    You're right it is insane, insane like a fox. It's called the Capitalist World Market aka Globalization. Costs of production, scales of production (when a big operation operates more cheaply and efficiently than smaller ones) and ultimately the bottom line is.... the bottom line. Profitability.

    When negative "externalities" are not included in the equation, those being: damage to the environment, damage to local economies, job displacement, sick and dying pets, then shipping things around the world with subsidized petroleum fuel, from agricultural economies where labor is incredibly cheap and kept that way by a police state that suppresses unions, consumer protection organizations and pretty much everybody who isn't a willing and eager Chinese "Communist Party" member seeking personal economic advancement, then it is profitable to import wheat and rice gluten from China rather than growing and processing it here in the "Good 'Ol US of A".

    Who cares about US farmers and US Pets (and their owners), just as long as a bulk source is available that is cheaper than we can make it? And one externality in Chinese production is the benefit from no environmental controls and no quality assurance for bulk processed products.

    I highly recommend James McMurtry's song, "We Can't Make It Here Anymore" for a look at the intimate consequences of this state of affairs.

    And a good reading of the young Karl Marx (1848 Manuscripts, Theses on Fueurbach) before he started predicting the future (badly) while he was formulating the concepts that have given us a way to describe the workings of Capitalism as it relates to Social processes and Culture, would help to lay the conceptual groundwork for why this irrational system, with all its destructive tendencies and inequalities between classes, still exists and flourishes in the world today.

    And it flourishes in spite of the daily costs to the environment and everybody alive on the planet. It isn't all just legerdemain, smoke and mirrors, but those are effective means, among many others, to keep the gravy train rolling for those at the top, and the rest of us distracted, complacent and focused on blaming ourselves for our problems, rather than a system that is predicated on human, and all other life, suffering.

    And yes, the "Big C" has provided a materially better lifestyle for more people in more places than ever before in human history. (Unless you're harkening back to Atlantis and Mu, then the jury's still out....!) And Marxist-Leninism sucks like a Black Hole and was responsible for killing more people under Stalin and Mao than Hitler ever dreamed of disappearing.

    Course "The Conquest" of the Americas, India, Africa and Asia during the Age of Imperialism and European Expansion was no picnic either, and many of us Nortenos (the people, not the Set/Criminal Gang) are the inheritors of the profits from that massive slaughter, enslavement and expropriation.

    I doubt anyone reading this is a subsistence farmer or urban impoverished worker from the Global South. (If you are Sister, Brother, far too few of us are doing what we can to address the problem, it's just kinda hard when so many others up here are glued to American Idol and Professional Sports spectacles, etc., etc.. Hang on, keep fighting, maybe one day, some day "Bottom Rail On Top Now, Bass.")

    So....Your pet / companion animal is just a pawn in the Capitalist global market, just like most of the rest of us.

    Whew! Gotta quit opining while I drink my morning tea and orange juice!

    "Mad" Miles

    P.S. And no, in spite of the fact that I use Marxist concepts and theory, along with the ideas of many other theorists, to understand the world around me does not make me a Commie, or even a Socialist, it makes me a Political and Economics analyst, also known as a Social Theorist.

    My politics, for the last fifteen to twenty-five years, fall into the eclectic radical Leftist, Radical democrat, Pro-Maximum Human Freedom camp, whatever and wherever that is. And my Political Party, since 1989, has been the Green Party of the United States of America, for all our warts, weaknesses and growing pains.

    I believe in giving credit where credit is due, and Karl Marx was the first to apply critical thinking to the ascendent Capitalist system of his day, and he invented many of the concepts still useful for understanding it today. Those concepts being: Means of Production, Relations of Production, Commodity Fetishism, Labor Theory of Value, Reification of Social Relations, Mystification, and so much more!

    He may have been wrong about the inevitability of the Working Class seizing the Means of Production from the Capitalist Class and creating a new, just and egalitarian society from the ashes of the old. (at least so far)

    But that doesn't mean his many years of study and analysis didn't pay off when it comes to providing conceptual tools for understanding and explaining how Capitalism works. Especially from the perspective of those who do not gain as much as they produce in the arrangement between Labor and Capital.

    If you're not already familiar with the discussion, I highly recommend you check it out. When I read him and his commentators some thirty years ago it certainly opened my eyes, and gave me new conceptual tools with which to understand the world around me. I don't read that stuff anymore, haven't done so for twenty years, but I certainly have not forgotten!

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    Vet-To-Pet
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    Re: Blog about the pet food recall and other pet issues

    Unfortunately, as a local veterinarian, I saw several pets who were effected by the tainted pet foods. It seemed to me that it hadn't taken a long period of eating that certain food for the pet to go into kidney failure, so I don't know what good it would do to try to remember what you've been feeding your dog or cat longer than 4 or 5 months ago (beginning of this year?).

    Whenever clients ask me what to feed their dog or cat (which is a VERY common question), I usually tell them that Purina makes food for animals. ALL kinds of animals (worked in the Bronx Zoo---they fed monkey chow, rat chow, various other diets specifically designed for the nutritional needs of that species).. That's what they DO, and they've been doing it for a long time. They study the nutritional needs of pets, livestock, exotic animals, and they know what they're doing. I trust Purina---none of their food is on the recall list. The only time I would suggest not feeding a Purina brand food to an animal would be if that particular animal had an allergic/adverse reaction to that food. I swear that I don't own stock in Purina, I'm just telling you what I've experienced with my own pets, my patients, and the animals in one of the most reputable zoos in the world, over the past 30 years or so.

    Their are also books avilable (probably web sites, too) where you can learn how to make a home diet for your dog or cat----they each have different nutritional needs (ie, cats aren;t just "little dogs"). If you're too nervous to buy ANY commercial pet food (I don't blame you), maybe that's the way to go, at least for the time being.
    Vet-To-Pet
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