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    24 Dead and 137 Infected at NY Nursing Home After Experimental COVID Injections




    24 Dead and 137 Infected at NY Nursing Home
    After Experimental COVID Injections

    by Adam Dick
    The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity

    January 10, 2021




    The Commons on St. Anthony nursing home in Auburn, New York. Image Source.



    A Nursing Home had Zero Coronavirus Deaths. Then,
    It Vaccinates Residents for Coronavirus and the Deaths Begin.



    Things seem to be working backwards at The Commons on St. Anthony nursing home in Auburn, New York. Vaccinating people is supposed to reduce or end coronavirus deaths. Right?

    But, at The Commons, such deaths are reported to have occurred only after residents began receiving coronavirus vaccinations.

    James T. Mulder wrote Saturday at syracuse.com that until December 29 there had been no coronavirus deaths at The Commons. December 29, when deaths of residents with coronavirus began occurring at The Commons, is also, Mulder’s article discloses, seven days days after the nursing home began giving coronavirus vaccinations to residents, with 80 percent of residents so far having been vaccinated.

    Over a period of less than two weeks since December 29, Mulder relates that 24 coronavirus-infected residents at the 300-bed nursing home have died.

    Is the timing just a strange coincidence?

    Read Mulder’s article here.

    This is the penultimate paragraph of Mulder’s article, where vaccinations at The Commons is mentioned:
    The nursing home began vaccinating residents Dec. 22. So far 193 residents, or 80%, and 113 employees, or less than half the staff, have been vaccinated. The nursing home plans to do more vaccinations Jan. 12.

    Read the full article at The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity.

    Comment on this article at HealthImpactNews.com.

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    Re: 24 Dead and 137 Infected at NY Nursing Home After Experimental COVID Injections

    Mark,

    Are you crazy in spreading this false rumor?

    Did you read the source article?

    It says: "The outbreak at The Commons on St. Anthony in Auburn started Dec. 21 as a wave of post-Thanksgiving Covid-19 cases began hitting the county, said Julie Sheedy, an official of Loretto which operates the 300-bed nursing home."

    https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus...-kills-24.html

    Vaccinations started the 22nd of December.

    The source article from James Mulder does not speculate about the vaccination causing the wave of infections. That's the twisting of the "Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity." Don't hang yourself.



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    Zeno, You have proven nothing by accusing me of "spreading a false rumor" - except indicate your aversion to Ron Paul. As far as I am concerned, Ron Paul has his points. Back in 2011-12 there was a certain amount of controversy as to whether Ron Paul was objectively more radical than Obama. That was after four years of Obama's real-time performance as president.
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    24 Dead and 137 Infected at NY Nursing Home After Experimental COVID Injections


    Despite the most strenuous efforts of gatekeepers to contain & keep this News story under wraps and to discredit the "Source"...

    It's gone viral

    Keep hitting the "More Results" Bar
    at the foot of the page.



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    This sad story was first reported on syracuse.com. If you go to that source article you see that Mark misrrepresented it.

    The positive cases started at this nursing home the day before the vaccination program started, and the deaths cannot be attributed to the vaccinations on the basis of the information given. The source article itself mentions Thanksgiving socializing.
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    Dr. David Martin on Experimental mRNA COVID Vaccines: This is NOT a Vaccine! It is a Medical Device
    by Brian Shilhavy
    Editor, Health Impact News



    Dr. David Martin. Image Source.

    Recently Sasha Stone hosted a 2 hour live stream event called “Focus on Fauci.” Participating in the event were Dr. Rocco Galati, Dr. David Martin, Dr. Judy Mikovits, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

    Dr. Martin has made tidal waves in the Alternative Media since this event, by explaining that the experimental mRNA COVID vaccines are not even vaccines, and legally cannot be called “vaccines,” because they are really medical devices.

    Dr. Martin should be familiar to readers of Health Impact News (as are the other participants), as he was the featured scientist in filmmaker Mikki Willis’ excellent production: Plandemic. He exposed, for example, how the U.S. Government has owned patents on coronaviruses since the 1990s.

    Here is a partial bio of Dr. David Martin from his website:

    His first invention was a laser integrated system to target and treat inoperable tumors. His mathematics helped unravel the way the human body processes hormones and led to the detection and treatment of many diseases.

    His observation of human behavior led to his development of technology which deciphers the intention and motivation of communication – a technology that has impacted and saved the lives of billions.

    His global business activities served to develop the world’s top-performing global equity index (including the CNBC IQ100 powered by M·CAM).

    He’s brought the world’s largest white-collar criminals to justice and brought the world’s most oppressed and disenfranchised transformative ways to engage.

    From the starry expanses of Mongolia to the flashing lights of New York, his work is as passion-filled whether it’s with a camel herder or a global CEO. (Source.)

    “This is not a vaccine.”

    Here is a partial transcript of the video below explaining that the mRNA vaccines are not really vaccines:

    This is not a vaccine.

    We need to be really clear. We’re using the term “vaccine” to sneak this thing under public health exemptions.

    This is not a vaccine. This is an mRNA packaged in a fat envelope, that is delivered to a cell.
    It is a medical device designed to stimulate the human cell into becoming a pathogen creator.
    It is not a vaccine. Vaccines actually are a legally defined term, and they’re a legally defined term under public health law, they’re legally defined term under the CDC and FDA standards.

    And a vaccine specifically has to stimulate both an immunity within the person who is receiving it, but it also has to disrupt transmission.

    And that is not what this is. They have been abundantly clear in saying that the mRNA strand that is going into the cell, it is not to stop transmission. It is a treatment.

    But if it was discussed as a treatment, it would not get the sympathetic ear of the public health authorities, because then people would say, well what other treatments are there?

    Watch the full explanation by Dr. Martin below :


    Focus on Fauci

    The entire 2.5 hour event can be viewed here on Bitchute.


    And just a reminder, Moderna themselves have admitted that the mRNA injections are an
    Operation System, the “Software of Life.”

    [ Source ]






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    Quote This sad story was first reported on syracuse.com. If you go to that source article you see that Mark misrrepresented it.

    The positive cases started at this nursing home the day before the vaccination program started, and the deaths cannot be attributed to the vaccinations on the basis of the information given. The source article itself mentions Thanksgiving socializing.
    Sad story it is, Zeno. However, I was not the one that "misrrepresented it." [sic] I simply re-posted an article that was originally put on-line @ the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity. If you will click on the link of the article at syracuse.com, you will find that it has been "updated" - predated? - both dates being January 9th.

    However, although the point you have fixed upon in the article at syracuse.com {i.e., "
    The positive cases started at this nursing home the day before the vaccination program started..." {your words, Zeno} can be extracted out of the text, the article you cite states :

    "
    Auburn, N.Y. – A Covid-19 outbreak at a Cayuga County nursing home that began two weeks ago has infected 137 residents, 24 of whom have died.

    The outbreak at The Commons on St. Anthony in Auburn started Dec. 21 as a wave of post-Thanksgiving Covid-19 cases began hitting the county, said Julie Sheedy, an official of Loretto which operates the 300-bed nursing home.

    Forty-seven employees have tested positive.

    Since the outbreak began, 21 residents have died at The Commons and three in the hospital, Sheedy said. Eleven residents have died since Wednesday, she said.

    There had been no nursing home Covid-19 deaths in Cayuga County until the first three deaths at the Commons were reported Dec. 29. The three other nursing homes in Cayuga have not reported any Covid-19 deaths".

    And your words, in summation : "...and the deaths cannot be attributed to the vaccinations on the basis of the information given. The source article itself mentions Thanksgiving socializing" - are open to Question... One Question being :

    Q. "Were any Vaccinations for
    Covid-19 performed at any of the three other nursing homes in Cayuga County?"

    The article at the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity states:


    This is the penultimate paragraph of Mulder’s article, where vaccinations at The Commons is mentioned:

    The nursing home began vaccinating residents Dec. 22. So far 193 residents, or 80%, and 113 employees, or less than half the staff, have been vaccinated. The nursing home plans to do more vaccinations Jan. 12.

    All we Know for sure, at the present, is that the number of dead from Covid-19 is accelerating in Cayuga County, in Upstate New York. -But it it not clear whether the cause is "Thanksgiving socializing" {your words, Zeno} =OR= Vaccine injections that began at the Commons on St. Anthony on December 22, 2020. Time will tell just how many of the newly injected will continue to drop like flies in the days to come. It ain't over till it's over. And as of Now, we have two opposing camps of 'believers' with regards to the efficacy & the 'safety' of the Warp-Speed developed Vaccines.




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    55 Americans Have Died Following COVID
    Vaccination, Norway Deaths Rise To 29


    by Tyler Durden

    Saturday, Jan 16, 2021

    Amid increasing calls for suspension of the use of mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines produced by companies such as Pfizer, especially among elderly people, the situation in Norway has escalated significantly as the Scandi nation has now registered a total of 29 deaths among people over the age of 75 who’ve had their first COVID-19 vaccination shot.




    As Bloomberg reports, this adds six to the number of known fatalities in Norway, and also lowers the age group thought to be affected from 80.
    Until Friday, Pfizer/BioNTech was the only vaccine available in Norway, and “all deaths are thus linked to this vaccine,” the Norwegian Medicines Agency said in a written response to Bloomberg on Saturday.

    “There are 13 deaths that have been assessed, and we are aware of another 16 deaths that are currently being assessed,” the agency said.

    All the reported deaths related to “elderly people with serious basic disorders,” it said.
    “Most people have experienced the expected side effects of the vaccine, such as nausea and vomiting, fever, local reactions at the injection site, and worsening of their underlying condition.”

    Norway’s experience has prompted the country to suggest that Covid-19 vaccines may be too risky for the very old and terminally ill... the exact group that 'the science' shows are actually at risk from this virus.

    Pfizer and BioNTech are working with the Norwegian regulator to investigate the deaths in Norway, Pfizer said in an e-mailed statement. The agency found that “the number of incidents so far is not alarming, and in line with expectations,” Pfizer said.

    However, it's not just Norway as The Epoch Times' Zachary Stieber reports that fifty-five people in the United States have died after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, according to reports submitted to a federal system.

    Deaths have occurred among people receiving both the Moderna and the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines, according to the reports.



    In some cases, patients died within days of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.

    One man, a 66-year-old senior home resident in Colorado, was sleepy and stayed in bed a day after getting Moderna’s vaccine. Early the next morning, on Christmas Day, the resident “was observed in bed lying still, pale, eyes half open and foam coming from mouth and unresponsive,” the VAERS report states. “He was not breathing and with no pulse.”

    In another case, a 93-year-old South Dakota man was injected with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine on Jan. 4 around 11 a.m. About two hours later, he said he was tired and couldn’t continue with the physical therapy he was doing any longer. He was taken back to his room, where he said his legs felt heavy. Soon after, he stopped breathing. A nurse declared a do-not-resuscitate order.

    In addition to the deaths, people have reported 96 life-threatening events following COVID-19 vaccinations, as well as 24 permanent disabilities, 225 hospitalizations, and 1,388 emergency room visits.

    It's not just the old and frail, in Israel, which proudly lays claim to the greatest vaccination effort in the world (largest percentage of the population inoculated),

    As RT reports, at least 13 Israelis have experienced facial paralysis after being administered the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine, a month after the US Food and Drug Administration reported similar issues but said they weren’t linked to the jab.

    Israeli outlet Ynet reported, citing the Health Ministry, that officials believe the number of such cases could be higher.
    “For at least 28 hours I walked around with it [facial paralysis],” one person who had the side effect told Ynet.

    “I can't say it was completely gone afterwards, but other than that I had no other pains, except a minor pain where the injection was, but there was nothing beyond that.”

    Ynet quoted Prof. Galia Rahav, director of the Infectious Diseases Unit at Sheba Medical Center, who said she did not feel “comfortable” with administering the second dose to someone who had received the first jab and subsequently suffered from paralysis.

    “No one knows if this is connected to the vaccine or not. That's why I would refrain from giving a second dose to someone who suffered from paralysis after the first dose,” she told the outlet.

    Finally, as we noted yesterday following the news of rising post-vaccination deaths in Noway, health experts from Wuhan, China, called on Norway and other countries to suspend the use of mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines produced by companies such as Pfizer, especially among elderly people.

    China's Global Times reports Chinese experts said the death incident should be assessed cautiously to understand whether the death was caused by vaccines or other preexisting conditions of these individuals.


    Yang Zhanqiu, a virologist from Wuhan University, told the Global Times on Friday that the death incident, if proven to be caused by the vaccines, showed that the effect of the Pfizer vaccine and other mRNA vaccines is not as good as expected, as the main purpose of mRNA vaccines is to heal patients.
    ...
    A Beijing-based immunologist, who requested anonymity, told the Global Times on Friday that the world should suspend the use of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine represented by Pfizer, as this new technology has not proven safety in large-scale use or in preventing any infectious diseases.
    Older people, especially those over 80, should not be recommended to receive any COVID-19 vaccine, he said.




    All of which is a problem since it is the elderly who are at most risk (quite frankly at any real risk at all) and thus who need the protection the most.

    The Chinese health experts instead say that the most elderly and frail should be recommended to take medicines to improve their immune system.

    Of course, one cannot help but note the irony of scientists from the source of the plague that has killed millions around the world and destroyed lives/economies almost everywhere, is now calling for the cessation of the process to protect against the plague.



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    Source please? Where did you find this article? Thank you


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    Bobbi, It is all there, @ the bottom of the page: the Source of the article that I posted -the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity - and the original article by James Mulder in syracuse.com.

    Quote "James T. Mulder wrote Saturday at syracuse.com that until December 29 there had been no coronavirus deaths at The Commons. December 29, when deaths of residents with coronavirus began occurring at The Commons, is also, Mulder’s article discloses, seven days days after the nursing home began giving coronavirus vaccinations to residents, with 80 percent of residents so far having been vaccinated.

    Over a period of less than two weeks since December 29, Mulder relates that 24 coronavirus-infected residents at the 300-bed nursing home have died.

    Is the timing just a strange coincidence?

    Read Mulder’s article here.

    This is the penultimate paragraph of Mulder’s article, where vaccinations at The Commons is mentioned:

    The nursing home began vaccinating residents Dec. 22. So far 193 residents, or 80%, and 113 employees, or less than half the staff, have been vaccinated. The nursing home plans to do more vaccinations Jan. 12.

    Read the full article at The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity.

    Comment on this article at HealthImpactNews.com.

    See Also:

    Doctors Around the World Issue Dire WARNING: DO NOT GET THE COVID VACCINE!!
    P.S. One must read carefully and learn to open links. They are like footnotes...

    -Also-

    I would suggest that you read the response to Zeno's critique that I posted
    @ #7 on this thread. You may have to put your thinking cap on...
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    The only thing I won't agree on is that they were infected.

    Since there is no virus & the test is a lie, they couldn't have been infected.

    This as outright MURDER since they are killing off the elderly first.

    Blacks are next.

    Actually, why don't we find how many elderly DIDN'T die. That would be a better question & of course it's very hard to find this information b/c they hide it from us.

    They will NEVER admit what they do (although they are definitely more brazen in telling us what they will & have done since the scamdemic started), so unless someone whistleblows, it's very hard to find the truth.

    https://video.canund.com/v/COV1H3

    https://video.canund.com/v/DP2KMt
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    Quote Our Free Society wrote:
    Since there is no virus & the test is a lie, they couldn't have been infected.
    I for one, believe this virus -these viri- to be quite real, and that more viruses are being developed in BSL-4 Laboratories - along with more Vaccine "remedies". They shall be coming down the pike - soon.
    Quote They will NEVER admit what they do (although they are definitely more brazen in telling us what they will & have done since the scamdemic started), so unless someone whistleblows, it's very hard to find the truth.
    They {THEM, Inc.} do not generally admit to what They have done -or- are doing. - On the other hand - They have created the Georgia Guidestones in order to give 'fair warning' to Everyone of what the ultimate Goal is - population-wise. For what is written on the Georgia Guidestones, dear Waccovians, is not a "conspiracy theory". Nay, what is written there is "written in stone" -good ol' Georgia Granite.

    I only hope that more of the college educated, bright, intelligent, West County Sonomans remember how to do research, {as they used to do in college} & learn how to open links and use a little Buddhist logic, instead of react, react, react, in the dumb, Zetoid
    * manner that is considered socially acceptable and politically correct here at WaccoBB.

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    * Zetoid, newly coined word describing the political and mental straitjacket of former new-leftists who have been waylaid by the South End Press Gang,
    publishers of the books of Noam Chompsky, "Z Magazine" and the articles of the acolytes of Chomsky, Michael Albert and Gar Alperovitz - among others.

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    To you and the previous poster who first shared the story:
    Please tell us more about the "Ron Paul Foundation for Peace and Prosperity." Seems like a contradiction in terms, to me.

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    I honor each persons' opinion, though I feel this article and much of the responses in this thread seem to be conspiracy theory based. And such fear-based conspiracies seem to be the other serious "viral" problem of these times. I'm sure you are aware of this fact: Most western drugs/treatments have inherent risks, and many are very serious and yes, can lead to death. I believe the best approach to dealing with this fact is to always weigh the risks verses the benefits. If the "vaccine" saves lives by preventing serious Covid cases, that's a good thing, right? (I know that's an obvious rhetorical question). And if the percentage of serious side effects (or even death) from taking the vaccine is at an EXTREEM low level, then why wouldn't one choose to get the vaccine vs. choose to stay vulnerable to getting the virus? I'm imagining there are plenty of people who have lived through Covid personally and wished that they could have gotten the vaccine instead (and many of them whom were about to be intubated).

    Here's another article (NY Times) which I feel is a more sane and well considered point of view regarding Covid vaccines.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/18/b...us-deaths.html

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    Here's the article that Jacob posted a link to


    Underselling the Vaccine
    And what else you need to know today.

    By David Leonhardt

    Jan. 18, 2021
    Good morning. We explain why the vaccine news is better than you may think.

    Preparing the Pfizer vaccine in Phoenix.Credit...Adriana Zehbrauskas for The New York TimesEarly in the pandemic, many health experts — in the U.S. and around the world — decided that the public could not be trusted to hear the truth about masks. Instead, the experts spread a misleading message, discouraging the use of masks.

    Their motivation was mostly good. It sprung from a concern that people would rush to buy high-grade medical masks, leaving too few for doctors and nurses. The experts were also unsure how much ordinary masks would help.

    But the message was still a mistake.

    It confused people. (If masks weren’t effective, why did doctors and nurses need them?) It delayed the widespread use of masks (even though there was good reason to believe they could help). And it damaged the credibility of public health experts.
    “When people feel as though they may not be getting the full truth from the authorities, snake-oil sellers and price gougers have an easier time,” the sociologist Zeynep Tufekci wrote early last year.

    Now a version of the mask story is repeating itself — this time involving the vaccines. Once again, the experts don’t seem to trust the public to hear the full truth.

    This issue is important and complex enough that I’m going to make today’s newsletter a bit longer than usual. If you still have questions, don’t hesitate to email me at [email protected].

    ‘Ridiculously encouraging’

    Right now, public discussion of the vaccines is full of warnings about their limitations: They’re not 100 percent effective. Even vaccinated people may be able to spread the virus. And people shouldn’t change their behavior once they get their shots.
    These warnings have a basis in truth, just as it’s true that masks are imperfect. But the sum total of the warnings is misleading, as I heard from multiple doctors and epidemiologists last week.

    “It’s driving me a little bit crazy,” Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown School of Public Health, told me.
    “We’re underselling the vaccine,” Dr. Aaron Richterman, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of Pennsylvania, said.

    “It’s going to save your life — that’s where the emphasis has to be right now,” Dr. Peter Hotez of the Baylor College of Medicine said.

    The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are “essentially 100 percent effective against serious disease,” Dr. Paul Offit, the director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, said. “It’s ridiculously encouraging.”

    The details

    Here’s my best attempt at summarizing what we know:

    • The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines — the only two approved in the U.S. — are among the best vaccines ever created, with effectiveness rates of about 95 percent after two doses. That’s on par with the vaccines for chickenpox and measles. And a vaccine doesn’t even need to be so effective to reduce cases sharply and crush a pandemic.
    • If anything, the 95 percent number understates the effectiveness, because it counts anyone who came down with a mild case of Covid-19 as a failure. But turning Covid into a typical flu — as the vaccines evidently did for most of the remaining 5 percent — is actually a success. Of the 32,000 people who received the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine in a research trial, do you want to guess how many contracted a severe Covid case? One.
    • Although no rigorous study has yet analyzed whether vaccinated people can spread the virus, it would be surprising if they did. “If there is an example of a vaccine in widespread clinical use that has this selective effect — prevents disease but not infection — I can’t think of one!” Dr. Paul Sax of Harvard has written in The New England Journal of Medicine. (And, no, exclamation points are not common in medical journals.) On Twitter, Dr. Monica Gandhi of the University of California, San Francisco, argued: “Please be assured that YOU ARE SAFE after vaccine from what matters — disease and spreading.”
    • The risks for vaccinated people are still not zero, because almost nothing in the real world is zero risk. A tiny percentage of people may have allergic reactions. And I’ll be eager to see what the studies on post-vaccination spread eventually show. But the evidence so far suggests that the vaccines are akin to a cure.
    Offit told me we should be greeting them with the same enthusiasm that greeted the polio vaccine: “It should be this rallying cry.”


    A medical worker receiving the Moderna vaccine in Jersey City, N.J.
    Credit...Bryan Anselm for The New York Times

    The costs of negativity

    Why are many experts conveying a more negative message?
    Again, their motivations are mostly good. As academic researchers, they are instinctively cautious, prone to emphasizing any uncertainty. Many may also be nervous that vaccinated people will stop wearing masks and social distancing, which in turn could cause unvaccinated people to stop as well. If that happens, deaths would soar even higher.

    But the best way to persuade people to behave safely usually involves telling them the truth. “Not being completely open because you want to achieve some sort of behavioral public health goal — people will see through that eventually,” Richterman said. The current approach also feeds anti-vaccine skepticism and conspiracy theories.

    After asking Richterman and others what a better public message might sound like, I was left thinking about something like this:

    We should immediately be more aggressive about mask-wearing and social distancing because of the new virus variants. We should vaccinate people as rapidly as possible — which will require approving other Covid vaccines when the data justifies it.

    People who have received both of their vaccine shots, and have waited until they take effect, will be able to do things that unvaccinated people cannot — like having meals together and hugging their grandchildren. But until the pandemic is defeated, all Americans should wear masks in public, help unvaccinated people stay safe and contribute to a shared national project of saving every possible life.

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    As soon as the vaccine became available for our age group, my wife and I made appointments to get it. After waiting on the phone for hours because of the high demand, we made the earliest available appointment, which was in mid-February.

    My daughter is studying and training for a masters degree in nursing at John Hopkins. Because part of the program is clinical (treating patients), she got the Pfizer vaccine about 2 weeks ago. No problems so far.
    She advised me that the risks from the disease are many times greater than the risks from the vaccine. So did my wife's doctor and my doctor.

    Flying in a commercial jetliner in the U.S. is much less risky that driving in a car, even under the best driving conditions. Most people are at least mildly apprehensive about flying, but have no qualms about driving.

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    Re: 24 Dead and 137 Infected at NY Nursing Home After Experimental COVID Injections

    Quote gypsey wrote:

    To you and the previous poster who first shared the story:
    Please tell us more about the "Ron Paul Foundation for Peace and Prosperity." Seems like a contradiction in terms, to me.
    Posted in reply to the post by OurFreeSociety:

    As "the previous poster who first shared the story" I, Mark, will reply to your objection, Gypsey : As I have already written:

    "As far as I am concerned, Ron Paul has his points. Back in 2011-12 there was a certain amount of controversy as to whether Ron Paul was
    objectively more radical than Obama. That was after four years of Obama's real-time performance as president."

    Now, if you would just click on that link {^above^} and study up, Gypsey, you might just open your mind a wee bit. There are more things in heaven and earth than are contained in your philosophy. Shakespeare said that. -And it is true of All of Us - myself included...
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