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    Military distribution of Vaccine & Volunteers needed to test Vaccine


    Asked about how his administration will ensure distribution of the COVID-19 vaccine once one is available, U.S. President Donald Trump said the military is "all lined up" and will handle distribution in a "very powerful manner." Top infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said they also plan to have it distributed in an equitable way that is representative "of the populations who need it most."
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    I missed this post, but want to share that I appreciate your posts!

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    It’s worth noting that what is being said is the DLA- The Defense Logistics Agency will be used to get the vaccine quickly and efficiently to the State and Territories health agencies.

    The DLA is the largest and most efficient logistics agency in the world- supplying all military branches, countless government agencies, and in times of disaster everyone fron NGO’s, local, state, and international relief agencies, foreign governments, etc.

    I don’t find anything unusual or worrisome about this.
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    So, clearly you welcome the words: "We're from the government and we're here to help"
    especially when spoken by someone in a uniform holding a syringe.

    You may be in luck. Unfortunately.


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    The Architecture of Domestic Repression in the United States


    By Donald Monaco

    Global Research, July 17, 2020

    Millions of Americans have awakened to the shocking realization that they are living in a veritable police state as they witness unarmed peaceful protesters for racial justice being confronted by a militarized police force replete with armored personnel carriers, assault rifles, submachine guns, flashbang grenades, pepper spray, rubber bullets, visor helmets, bulletproof vests and helicopters. More often than not, the force is deployed as a menacing phalanx armed to the teeth by the Pentagon for the purpose of suppressing protests. In recent years, the force has been used in American ghettos to quell a restive Black underclass. Today, it can be seen in the main thoroughfares, business districts and civic centers of prominent cities including the nation’s capital where police and national guard units removed protesters from the gates of the White House on June 1 so that President Trump could pose for a photo opportunity in front of St. John’s Episcopal Church. Not since U.S. troops under the command of General Douglas MacArthur cleared the bonus army of protesting World War I veterans from encampments during the 1930s or armed troops faced anti-Vietnam war protesters at the Pentagon during the 1960s has such a militarized show of force been displayed in Washington.


    As protesters demanding racial justice and an end to police brutality have taken to the streets in unprecedented numbers in response to police executions of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Elijah McClain and countless other black lives lost, instances of violent police tactics escalated. Thousands of peaceful protesters have been arrested, detained and brutalized as demonstrators confront agents of the police state. Calls emerged to “defund” or “abolish” the police. Those demands will be ignored by state power. Systemic change will only come about when the very state that deploys police forces is itself abolished and replaced by a socialist democracy.

    To accomplish this daunting task, a sustained social struggle that has as its goal revolutionary transformation of the American terror state will be needed. Anything short of this aim will only produce superficial reforms that will leave America’s predatory imperialist system intact. A revolutionary movement requires leadership. None exists in the United States with any influence with the American population. The goal of the U.S. government will be to ensure that a condition of political isolation and fragmentation persists among the working class and the poor.

    Any transformative social movement that may emerge from the ongoing anti-racist protests will face a repressive apparatus of Orwellian proportions.

    The physical architecture of the repressive apparatus includes a militarized police force that is linked to a vast prison-industrial gulag. Surplus weaponry of the U.S. imperialist war machine used for decades to kill the poor inhabitants of third world countries has come home to the shores of America. Police forces across the country have been equipped with advanced military weapons designed for war zones, including 13,000 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) tactical vehicles. The armored vehicles were developed in Iraq as a response to the use of improvised explosive devises (IEDs) by resistance forces. They were also deployed in Afghanistan. The vehicles cost between $500,000 to $1,000,000 per carrier. The Defense Logistics Agency has calculated that the Pentagon practice of giving unused military weaponry to police departments has cost $7.4 Billion since 1997. The U.S. militarized police force is only one part of the state’s architecture of repression.

    The national security autocracy is another. The structure of the national security autocracy consists of the president, the secretaries of State and Defense, National Security Council, Joint Chiefs of Staff and 16 intelligence agencies, the most prominent of which are the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), National Security Agency (NSA), Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The national security autocracy is supplanted by a privatized intelligence network so vast as to defy description.

    Since 9/11, the architecture of domestic repression has been expanded and merged with domestic law enforcement and the military through the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, FBI Joint Terrorism Task Forces, Fusion Centers, FEMA Detention Camps, Northcom (U.S. Military Northern Command) and a privatized American intelligence network.

    The privatized American intelligence network is so extensive that over 250,000 private contractors are working in approximately 2,000 companies and 1,200 government organizations on top secret security programs in 10,000 locations across the country. And this may only be the tip of the private covert intelligence iceberg.

    The NSA can now monitor any phone conversation, email message, website visit, social network interaction, text message, or online book purchase in the country. Privacy has been destroyed in the United States as an expansive National security autocracy augments the militarized police state. And the security apparatus has been actively involved in coordinating the repression of Black Lives Matter and anti-racist protests across the nation.

    Ominously, the Department of Homeland Security has warned that the George Floyd protests could be infiltrated by “domestic terrorists”, meaning anarchist groups such as Antifa. The warning follows an accusation by President Trump and Attorney General William Barr that blamed Antifa and other left-wing groups for instigating violent protests. Trump also threatened to label Antifa a “domestic terrorist organization.” Following Trump’s lead, Barr stated that the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Forces would coordinate police activity aimed at finding and arresting violent protesters.

    The designation used by DHS to identify members of Antifa as “domestic terrorists” is their classification as “anarchist extremists.” According to bureaucrats at DHS, anarchist extremists are those individuals who oppose capitalism, globalization, and U.S. government institutions. Anti-capitalists, anti-globalists and anti-imperialists can now be targeted by DHS as “extremists” allowing the U.S. government to proscribe political belief, association and activity.

    There is ample precedent for DHS involvement in domestic repression. Extensive documentation has revealed that the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Department of Homeland Security and local police forces coordinated the violent repression of Occupy Wall Street. The protest movement was targeted as a criminal and terrorist threat. This is not surprising as post-9/11 anti-terrorist legislation such as the USA PATRIOT Act of 2001 expanded the definition of terrorism so broadly as to criminalize political dissent.

    Occupy activists were arrested, held in detention for hours on end without access to lawyers, violently assaulted by police forces, beaten, tear gassed, secretly infiltrated and surveilled. Information gathered by police about protesters was funneled to Fusion Centers and FBI Joint Terrorism Task Forces.

    The FBI has a sordid history of domestic political repression that culminated in the Cointelpro program from 1956 until 1971. The covert program was used against domestic political dissidents involved in civil rights, anti-war, feminist, Black liberation, Native American and anti-colonialist movements of the 1960s. The program was revealed by courageous anti-war activists who stole files from an FBI office in Media, Pennsylvania in 1971 that were published in the underground press. Revelations of FBI Cointelpro helped build public opposition to illegal government activity. The disclosures forced Congress to investigate the role of intelligence agencies in suppressing social rebellion during the turbulent era of the 1960s.

    In 1976, Senator Frank Church chaired the United States Senate Select Committee to Study Government Operations With Respect to Intelligence Activities. The Church Committee found extensive violations of civil liberties by the U.S. intelligence community and proposed restrictions on the domestic activities of intelligence agencies that were not adopted by Congress. Public outcry to the findings of the Church Committee pressured President Ford’s Attorney General Edward Levi to issue internal restrictions on the FBI that prevented the agency from investigating individuals engaged in constitutionally protected political activity. Those restrictions were swept away after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 by Bush’s Attorney General John Ashcroft.

    The continued integration of the U.S. military/security/intelligence apparatus with a militarized police state bodes ill for emerging social movements that are fractured by the identity politics of the Democratic party and the liberal left in America. Until and unless a politics of solidarity coalesces to confront the systemic and institutional crisis of imperialistic capitalism and the military/industrial/security complex that protects the American plutocracy, the social forces needed to defeat racism and class oppression will be repressed and diverted into the cage of electoral politics with promises of transient reform.


    Donald Monaco is a political analyst who lives in Brooklyn, New York. He received his Master’s Degree in Education from the State University of New York at Buffalo in 1979 and was radicalized by the Vietnam War. He writes from an anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist perspective. His recent book is titled, The Politics of Terrorism, and is available at amazon.com



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    Quote So, clearly you welcome the words: "We're from the government and we're here to help"
    especially when spoken by someone in a uniform holding a syringe.
    yeah, I welcome them when they're true. They should be true more often - the government's in a good position to help with a lot of things.

    When St. Ronnie tried to poison those words, he was proselytizing his anti-government religion, trying to keep his sponsors from having to give back to the society we all share. The idea of us all being in a society together, working together, was unimportant; he was willing to destroy people's faith in each other to hoard resources for the few.

    Our job is to restore government's trustworthiness, not to cynically assume the worst.
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    The Warp Speed Push for Coronavirus Vaccines

    By F. William Engdahl

    Global Research, May 19, 2020

    The US White House has appointed a coronavirus “Vaccine Czar” from Big Pharma to oversee something dubbed Operation Warp Speed. The goal is to create and produce 300 million doses of a new vaccine to supposedly immunize the entire US population by year-end against COVID-19. To be sure that Big Pharma companies give their all to the medical Manhattan Project, they have been fully indemnified by the US government against liabilities should vaccine recipients die or develop serious disease as a result of the rushed vaccine. The FDA and NIH have waived standard pre-testing on animals in the situation. The US military, according to recent remarks by the US President, is being trained to administer the yet-to-be unveiled vaccine in record time. Surely nothing could go wrong here?

    Warp speed is a term out of the sci-fi Star Trek media, defined as a speed faster than the speed of light. In recent weeks billions of dollars have been pledged from governments, from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and others to fast-track a vaccine as well as test medical treatments to combat the VODIV19 illness said to originate from a novel coronavirus first discovered late 2019 in Wuhan China. This rush to create a “miracle” vaccine is ominous and suggests some hidden agenda.


    The Conflicted Czar


    Washington’s Operation Warp Speed is reportedly the brainchild of Presidential Adviser and son-in-law
    Jared Kushner. It is being formally run by the Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar and Defense Secretary Mark Esper who will work with a new Vaccine Czar. The Vaccine Czar selected for Kushner’s Operation Warp Speed is former GlaxoSmithKline Chairman of its Vaccines Division, Morrocan-born US citizen, Dr. Moncef Slaoui. From 2006 through 2017 Slaoui was Chairman of Global R&D and Vaccines at GlaxoSmithKline and sat on the company’s Executive team and Board of Directors.


    While at GSK Slaoui headed the development of
    Cervarix. Its Cervarix HPV cervical cancer vaccine was reported tied to multiple deaths or severe crippling effects in many recipients. A 2017 WHO monitoring report revealed that serious adverse effects from Moncef Slaoui’s HPV vaccine included complex regional pain syndrome (CRPS), postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS) and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) that “exceeds any other vaccine.” That is not reassuring in terms of the new Czar of a rushed coronavirus vaccine.


    In 2015 the Indian Supreme Court investigated charges that young Indian village girls died after being given Cervarix from Slaoui’s GSK. It was done in illegal vaccine “human guinea pig” tests of the HPV vaccine where neither the girls nor their parents were told what it was. The study was reportedly funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.


    In 2012 while Slaoui headed GSK global R&D and vaccine development, and sat on the GSK board, the company was fined $3 billion by the US Department of Justice, the largest ever fine against a pharmaceutical company. Among the charges was that GlaxoSmithKline deliberately withheld alarming safety data for its major-selling diabetes drug, Advandia, from the US FDA. After Advandia quietly vanished from the product list of GSK.


    Slaoui also has ties to the projects of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. He sat on the board of the Gates-funded International AIDS Vaccine Initiative. The IAVI was initiated in 1994 at a Rockefeller Foundation conference and is backed among others by the Gates Foundation, by the US Department of Defense and by Tony Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.


    At a May 15 White House press conference where the President introduced Slaoui as the head of the crash vaccine project, Slaoui stated,


    “Mr. President, I have very recently seen early data from a clinical trial with a coronavirus vaccine. These data make me feel even more confident that we will be able to deliver a few hundred million doses of vaccine by the end of 2020.”


    Though he did not say, he was clearly referring to Moderna and its mRNA gene-edited vaccine, the first US vaccine authorized to enter Phase I human trials after the US government gave the company a staggering $483 million of funding to fast-track the COVID-19 vaccine.


    Vaccine Czar Slaoui is well-placed with regard to Moderna. After leaving GSK from 2017 until he joined the Trump Operation Warp Speed, Slaoui was on the Moderna Board of Directors. He also still holds $10 million worth of Moderna stock options, options likely to soar in value as the Warp Speed zooms forward. This would suggest a glaring conflict of interest with Czar Slaoui, but that’s only the start of this saga, where millions of lives are potentially at threat from a novel inadequately-tested or proven genetically edited vaccine.


    Moderna and Slaoui


    At this point the leading US Government candidate for winning the “warp speed” race to roll out a COVID-19 vaccine is Slaoui’s Moderna Inc. in Cambridge, Massachusetts. That’s surely a coincidence?


    Moderna claims that between January 11, when they got the DNA sequence of the virus from China, and January 13–in just two days–working together with Anthony Fauci’s National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) of NIH, they managed to finalize the sequence for mRNA1273 vaccine against the novel coronavirus. At that point Fauci announced unprecedented plans to run human Phase I trials of the vaccine without prior animal studies. The FDA waived animal pretest requirements. The Moderna mRNA1273 tests were funded by the Gates Foundation-funded Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI).


    The focus by Fauci on Moderna’s mRNA experimental COVID-19 vaccine while Slaoui was heading its development at Moderna is impressive to say the least. The company states that on April 16, Moderna got an award from US government agency BARDA for $483 million to accelerate development of mRNA-1273. This award will fund the development of mRNA-1273 to FDA licensure and manufacturing process scale-up to enable large-scale production in 2020 for pandemic response. At that point the stock value of Slaoui’s Moderna stock options jumped 184%. Then, on May 1, Moderna and Lonza Group announced a worldwide strategic collaboration to manufacture mRNA-1273 at a planned 1 billion doses per year. This is no small deal.

    On May 6, Moderna filed a Current Report on Form 8-K with the SEC, which included an interview published by National Geographic with Anthony S. Fauci, Director of NIAID, which described his assessment of the results of testing related to the ongoing Phase 1 clinical study of mRNA-1273. It was quite positive.

    So, between January 13 and March 25, Slaoui and his team at Moderna were able to design the vaccine, and to produce it in such a way that it can be injected in humans, Slaoui told a Moroccan magazine, L’Economiste. While with Moderna, Slaoui was fully involved in the development of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine.


    On May 7 just days before Slaoui became the Trump Vaccine Czar, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved the gene-edited messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine, mRNA1273, to go into a Phase II human trial in the summer. On May 12, the FDA gave Fast Track Designation for Moderna’s mRNA Vaccine. Warp Speed, you know.


    The FDA with the backing of Tony Fauci’s NIAID in the NIH, granted unprecedented Phase I human trials of the never-before approved mRNA vaccine on April 27. They skipped normal animal, usually rat, testing, to go directly to human guinea pig tests. Moderna says Phase II trial will assess the safety, reactogenicity, and immunogenicity of two vaccinations of mRNA-1273 given 28 days apart. They will enroll 600 healthy adults for the experiment and supposedly follow their health for 12 months after the second vaccination. The plan is to begin human vaccinations by year end.


    Dangers of mRNA?


    All this, despite the evidence of extreme conflicts of interest between NIAID and other agencies of the US Government with Moderna and now-Vaccine Czar and former Moderna director Slaoui, might be treated more lightly, were it not for the fact that Moderna’s mRNA gene-edited vaccine technology is entirely experimental and never before approved for use as a vaccine. The company itself admits as much. It says, “mRNA is an emerging platform… we are still early in the story. Our most advanced vaccine program (CMV) is in Phase 2 clinical testing and we have no approved drugs to date.”


    Moderna and others working with the experimental gene-edited mRNA vaccines claim they are safer than the admittedly unpredictable gene-edited DNA vaccines. DNA vaccine research is thirty years old but to date, has failed to produce a single licensed DNA vaccine. Moderna is only 11 years old and the CRISPR gene-editing technology it uses is barely 5 years old. We are told mRNA is completely different and safe.
    However, numerous scientists warn that once inside the cell nucleus, mRNA vaccines have a risk of permanently changing a person’s DNA in unpredictable ways. Tony Faudi’s own NIH published a scientific paper regarding the new mRNA vaccine prospects. It read in part, “innate immune sensing of mRNA has also been associated with the inhibition of antigen expression and may negatively affect the immune response. Although the paradoxical effects of innate immune sensing on different formats of mRNA vaccines are incompletely understood, some progress has been made in recent years in elucidating these phenomena.” This is highly experimental science.

    Another scientific paper funded by several Chinese universities and republished by the NIH in 2019, reviewing the development of the new messenger RNA technique for vaccines sounded some sober warnings. It noted that there were “Concerns with instability and low immunogenicity.” Further that, “mRNA vaccines are efficient at antigen expression, but sequence and secondary structures formed by mRNAs are recognized by a number of innate immune receptors, and this recognition can inhibit protein translation.” Not only that, but “…several of
    these delivery vehicles demonstrated toxicity in vivo, which may limit their use in humans.”(emphasis added). The authors concluded that “The immune response mechanism instigated by mRNA remains to be elucidated. The process of mRNA vaccine recognition by cellular sensors and the mechanism of sensor activation are still not clear.


    The US government, in a tight-knit circle all tied to Tony Fauci’s NIAID, the Gates Foundation, WHO are moving with not warp, but rather warped human priorities to deliver us a vaccine that no one can assure is in any way safe. Were Moderna so certain it is safe, they should offer to be legally liable for any mRNA damage. They don’t, nor do any vaccine companies. We need to decide if the scale of the worldwide deaths, inflated or not, alleged to be of COVID-19, warrant such a human experiment that could alter our genetics in unpredictable and possibly toxic ways.


    F. William Engdahl
    is strategic risk consultant and lecturer, he holds a degree in politics from Princeton University and is a best-selling author on oil and geopolitics, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook” where this article was originally published. He is a Research Associate of the Centre for Research on Globalization.



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    Would you buy a under-tested & premature mandatory vaccination from
    this man? - Even as part of his re-election strategy, just so he can "Win"?


    President Trump: The Military Is Being Mobilized To Distribute A Coronavirus Vaccine Once It's Ready



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    I truly hope that you - James, Peter, Barry, Dian and all others who welcome this first-ever covid vaccine - are amongst the very first to have a uniformed person come to your door and give you that injection.

    Let us know how that goes.


    Speaking of the military and vaccines, while you're waiting you could check a video on that topic:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDDM...ture=emb_title Direct Order

    If you become interested enough to watch more, here:
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2016-12-15-22-must-see-vaccine-documentaries.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU32Ojf8-rA



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    Quote I truly hope that you - James, Peter, Barry, Dian and all others who welcome this first-ever covid vaccine - are amongst the very first to have a uniformed person come to your door and give you that injection
    you extrapolate way too far. I can't speak for the others, but I'm reacting to the blanket characterization of government as evil, and of ever-present malevolent forces with poorly-hidden motives controlling every civic interaction.

    sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And, I'll admit to extreme skepticism that we'll ever see what you imply - a humm-V with guys in camo showing up and insisting we drop our drawers and take our shot as if we were Marine recruits.
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    details notwithstanding, the plan for distribution has been laid out.

    re government -
    noticed the crashed world around us?
    noted that trillions have gone to further increase the wealthy?
    that vaccines are determined by political timetables?
    that agencies and private institutions are corrupt?
    that justice is bought and sold?

    are there exceptions? yes. just exceptions.
    not being awake to the brutal, craven economically controlled government in power is inexcusable but apparent.

    some allusion to cigars (freud?) - meaningless but whatever.

    watch just one of the links i sent. just ONE.
    then respond again.


    this is not a game. nor philosophical musings.

    this is the course of humanity and the planet.


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    Quote Peter/podfish wrote:
    "...I can't speak for the others, but I'm reacting to the blanket characterization of government as evil, and of ever-present malevolent forces with poorly-hidden motives controlling every civic interaction.

    sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And, I'll admit to extreme skepticism that we'll ever see what you imply - a humm-V with guys in camo showing up and insisting we drop our drawers and take our shot as if we were Marine recruits."
    We are not talking philosophy here, Peter. Sure, "government" could, in theory, be a good thing. "In theory" the Articles of Confederation were probably the most progressive Social Compact that ever came down the pike, in the whole of human history. The U.S. Constitution, also, (with the Bill of Rights tacked on to it, ) was a pretty good instrument - even though it was the document that signaled the counter-revolution.

    We are not talking "theory", Peter; we are talking hardtack reality. In theory, I would like to see a Libertarian-Socialist set up in the government, with the Central Bank being a subdivision of the Treasury Department, nationalized, & not creating more debt every time the Treasury borrowed a debt-dollar from the Fed.

    In theory
    , I would like to see the so-called "Public Domain" opened up for Homesteading for the Landless & the Homeless. In Theory, I would be happy if the United States of America were divided into Six Nations, all allied, but with Capitals closer to the base than bloody Washington, D.C.

    But we are not talking theory at this point in time. At this juncture, Trump is the president of the big, bad United States of Amerika, and he is up for re-election. We are headed towards a period of utter Chaos, Civil & Race War @ the time of the Election. Anything could happen. Trump has forewarned us that the military shall be involved in a "powerful way" in the distribution of the Vaccine.

    No Vaccine should ever be mandatory. For the State to impose a syringe upon any private individual violates that person's inherent & God-given Right to Life & Liberty. Ah, but the government has ordered five hundred million syringes. That more than covers the population of the United States.

    All we have been saying is get ready. Prepare yourself emotionally & psychologically to "just say no" to the vaccine & to the micro-chipping... No apologies to Nancy.

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    Thanks for staying ALIVE and conscious to the truths of our times Judith.

    Americans are lost in a deep forest of confusion and division, due in large part to our corporate run media. They simply aren't savvy to the history and corruption of the drug companies. Our attention span is another problem. As Gore Vidal said, "We are the United States of Amnesia". The majority of big drug companies are convicted felons with millions of lives destroyed by their wonder drugs and devices.

    Inspired by you post today - here is a short film I made listing the fines paid by these corporations: https://youtu.be/OaMNaiQa0K0



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    today learned that the average attention span of americans is one second less than a goldfish.

    caroline,
    wow, just whipped out a film, did you! good to know.
    love the music - and diane wilson's line about the banner is priceless. truly great gal.

    could just shake my head for 3+ minutes at the millions and BILLIONS AND $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$BILLIONS paid out for years and years to grievously harmed patients and families of those killed by pharmaceuticals.

    the hundreds of thousands of those not suing or winning cases hang on the consciences of the industry - though apparently without conscience.
    yes: people in jail right NOW for weed and mushrooms, while repeated, convicted pharmaceutical felons continue luxuriating in their mansions. very white collar crime.

    now to get your 'little movie' seen (and skill available to?!) - send link to organizations like green med https://www.greenmedinfo.com/?utm_ca...SzJ2WEF5In0%3D

    and dr.rima http://www.opensourcetruth.com/

    onwards, sister!



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    But isn't government what's gotten the planet, us too, into this mess? You continue to believe in the goodness of authoritarian control of violence. Take this website for example. We are subject to the petty control of berry. At least i know i dance to his gun. What are you dancing to?

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    Quote But isn't government what's gotten the planet, us too, into this mess?
    no, it's all us monkeys milling about. "Government" is one of the self-organizational things we do, by no means the only one. Wanna pick on religion for a while, for example?
    Quote You continue to believe in the goodness of authoritarian control of violence.
    I have no idea where some of you guys come up with your interpretations of what I believe. Well, that's not true - I think it comes as a consequence of world-views that you take for granted are real and then you follow them to where your own feelings lead you. Just because some of you conflate "authoritarian" with any exercise of authority, or with any communally-agreed on action that you personally don't agree with, doesn't make that a real thing. It's the two-year-old's response of "you aren't the boss of me!!!".
    The reason we're in this mess is because we don't have shared goals, we don't trust each other, we compete with each other for personal advantage at the other's expense, and most of all because we're a bunch of individual actors who don't really think all that well, and are only barely able to come up with coordinated planning for anything. It's a miracle we've created such a monstrous, world-encompassing hive as we have. I wouldn't really believe it if I haven't seen so much of it.
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    So, clearly you welcome the words: "We're from the government and we're here to help"
    especially when spoken by someone in a uniform holding a syringe.

    You may be in luck. Unfortunately.
    Hmmm... time to move this thread to “coronavirus conspiracy theories” perhaps?

    The military is NOT going to be adminstering the vaccine, nor is anyone- military, federal, state or otherwise going to be “showing up at your door”.

    The federal government is using it’s resources to help speed an effective vaccine. Using it’s resources- in this case the military’s logistics arm to see it is effectively and expediently distributed to the appropriate state agencies. AND insuring that ALL Americans who want the vaccine can get it at no cost, regardless of insurance.

    If you’re sooooo anti-government- stop posting- cellular and internet would not exist w/o the federal gov. - much less your electricity. Stop driving- the roads wouldn’t exist. Tell all the people who have lost homes to the fires and floods (as well as the counties) to give back all that FEMA money. Don’t even think of going to Pt Reyes, Yosemite, the Smithsonian, etc etc. Turn off your water and sewer because those were partially funded by the feds. If you have kids I hope you homeschooled and didn’t send them to public schools partially funded by the feds. I could go on but
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    I just clicked on the video and up came 'video unavailable-this video is private'. ...what next?
    Thank you Jude and Caroline, both. Your courage and clarity is needed and welcome for us all.

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    Hello there!
    thank YOU Trudy! here is the little film about the crimes of Big Pharma!
    https://youtu.be/6_UVWWdj17Y

    only facts - no emotions, opinions, analysis just the simple truth.

    onwardho!
    Carolyn

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    Quote socoexpat wrote:

    The military is NOT going to be adminstering the vaccine, nor is anyone- military, federal, state or otherwise going to be “showing up at your door”.

    The federal government is using it’s resources to help speed an effective vaccine. Using it’s resources- in this case the military’s logistics arm to see it is effectively and expediently distributed to the appropriate state agencies. AND insuring that ALL Americans who want the vaccine can get it at no cost, regardless of insurance.

    I am wondering just how you can be so sure of these things, socoexpat. Are you privy to information that the rest of us are not privy to ? -OR- Are you simply in denial concerning the gravity of the situation that we all find ourselves in - collectively - and feel it your duty to assuage our collective anxiety?


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    Most of the vaccine will go UPS. The military will fly some here and there for show so Trump can puff his contribution. If you want to be vaccinated and are in the risk group approved you will be able to get it at many of same places you can get a flu shot. If you belong to Kaiser you will likely get it there, Same with other HMOs.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...e-distribution
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    500 million syringes with two doses required = 250 million people or about 75% of the US population. When you make a plan you also must figure in many percent for imperfect distribution of syringes and a certain amount of loss due to damage etc. So maybe enough for 65% vaccination of the public


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    As far as is mRNA dangerous? You bet it is. Its exactly what this corona virus and other viruses use to turn certain of your cells into virus factories churning out more corona virus that go out and do the same. We don't know all the long term effects of covid, but we do know there appears to be some very bad ones in a percentage of those infected. On the other hand the mRNA vaccines turn some of your muscle cells into factories that churn out the spikes of this corona virus. Your body then mounts multiple defenses against those spikes.

    One difference being those spikes are unable to replicate so unlike the actual virus they are limited by the volume in the shot you get. Every time you get a viral infection that virus is injecting certain of your cells with it's mNRA to manipulate that cell into a virus replication factory.

    My point is the virus and the vaccine use almost identical biological mechanisms. Most likely we are all going to get one or the other. It's my belief the vaccine is far less likely to harm and every complication that could happen with the vaccine is more than likely possible with the virus and many more.

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    If our belief could only make it a reality.

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