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    The hoaxes of deborah tavares (conspiracy, weaponized weather, fires, depopulation)

    SUMMARY OF THE HOAXES OF DEBORAH TAVARES:
    (FOR ACTUAL PROOF OF THESE HOAXES, SCROLL DOWN TO THE SUBSEQUENT POSTS BELOW)

    For more about all of these hoaxes, click here:
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...eborah-Tavares

    1. "The NASA War Document Hoax". The document is REAL, but has been "modified" to fit the hoax. It now has a FAKE and misleading TITLE and COVER. But, the hoax is NOT the document anyway. Instead, the hoax is Deborah Tavares' OWN fraudulent claims that THE DOCUMENT ALONE CONSTITUTES "PROOF" that NASA is already killing us all with diabolical weapons in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, her claims about this document are not so. The document is actually a power point presentation that a chief NASA scientist created and used at a national convention of American DEFENSE contractors to urge them to develop countermeasures AGAINST the diabolical weapons described therein. NASA may actually be killing us all with diabolical weapons in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT ITSELF (upon which Deborah Tavares HERSELF says she bases this particular claim) provides no support for that proposition, because it was actually created and actually used in an effort TO PREVENT such an occurrence. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #2 BELOW.

    2. "The Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars Hoax". The document is REAL, but it is only POLITICAL FICTION. It has also been "modified" to fit the hoax. It now has a FAKE, recently-added paragraph at the beginning which fraudulently indicates that it is the work of "The Bilderbergs". But, the hoax is NOT the document anyway. Instead, the hoax is Deborah Tavares' OWN fraudulent claims that THE DOCUMENT ALONE CONSTITUTES "PROOF" that "The Bilderbergs" adopted a plan in 1954 to kill us all with diabolical "silent weapons" in "quiet wars" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, her claims about this document are not so. This tiny 44 page booklet was written in 1979 and is actually POLITICAL FICTION. It is a DISGUISED COMPLAINT about the treason and horrors suffered by U.S. soldiers when the U.S. government allegedly allowed them to be killed at Pearl Harbor in order to draw us into World War II. This tiny booklet has NOTHING to do with the Bilderbergs. The Bilderbergs may actually be killing us all with diabolical "silent weapons" in "quiet wars" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT ITSELF (upon which Deborah Tavares HERSELF says she bases this particular claim) provides no support for that proposition, because it is actually POLITICAL FICTION. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #3 BELOW.

    3. "The Report From Iron Mountain Hoax". The document is REAL, but it is only POLITICAL SATIRE. So, the hoax is NOT the document itself. Instead, the hoax is Deborah Tavares' OWN fraudulent claims that THE DOCUMENT ALONE CONSTITUTES "PROOF" that ALL ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHES (including climate change, drought, fires, etc.) ARE "ENGINEERED" by the U.S. government and used as "WEAPONS" to kill us all in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind (something not in the book). But, her claims about this document are not so. This document is actually POLITICAL SATIRE. It is a DISGUISED COMPLAINT WHICH OPENLY MOCKS U.S. policy of engaging in perpetual wars to prop up the U.S. economy. The premise of the book is that THE U.S. IS SO DEPENDENT ON MILITARY SPENDING that "IF PEACE BROKE OUT", we will be forced to create FAKE enemies (like "FAKE ALIEN LIFE FORMS" and ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHES) to "justify" our perpetual wars. The author DID NOT intend for the reader of his book to believe that the U.S. government was ACTUALLY CREATING "FAKE ALIEN LIFE FORMS" or ACTUALLY CREATING "ENGINEERED" ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHES. Instead, the author merely used those ABSURD examples TO MAKE A MOCKERY of the lengths that U.S. policy makers would go to in order to create "FAKE ENEMIES" to justify "FAKE WARS" against those "FAKE ENEMIES" to prop up the U.S. economy. The U.S Government may actually be killing us all with FAKE ("engineered") environmental catastrophes in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT ITSELF (upon which Deborah Tavares HERSELF says she bases this particular claim) provides no support for that proposition, because it is actually POLITICAL SATIRE. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #4 BELOW.

    4. "The Agenda 21 Hoax". The Agenda 21 Hoax is based on TWO DOCUMENTS. The Agenda 21 document itself was a REAL United Nations document. So, the hoax is not the document itself. Agenda 21 was merely a SUGGESTION WHICH THE UNITED STATES SENATE REJECTED. So, Agenda 21 NEVER BECAME A TREATY and NEVER BECAME THE LAW. That means Agenda 21 is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT in the United States. The hoax is Deborah Tavares' OWN fraudulent claims that THE AGENDA 21 DOCUMENT CONSTITUTES "PROOF" that the United Nations is using diabolical means (like fires and laser beams from satellites in space) to force us out or our rural and suburban homes and into increasingly-smaller, densely-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" or "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, her claims about this document are not so. According to the "Agenda 21" document itself (upon which Deborah Tavares HERSELF says she bases this particular claim), it merely suggested that we reduce the rate at which we deplete our natural resources to the same rate at which our natural resources can recover from being depleted (called "sustainable development"). Contrary to Deborah Tavares' fraudulent claims, there is NOTHING in the Agenda 21 document itself (upon which Deborah Tavares HERSELF says she bases this particular claim) which suggests we will be forced out of our rural or suburban homes and into increasingly-smaller, densely-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" or "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. NOTHING! What Deborah Tavares calls the "Agenda 21 Map" is FAKE AND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH AGENDA 21 in the first place. Instead, it purported to relate to the proposed "Biological Diversity Treaty" (something different from Agenda 21) WHICH THE UNITED STATES SENATE ALSO REJECTED. So, that proposed treaty (and its FAKE map) are also COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT in the United States. The hoax is Deborah Tavares' OWN fraudulent claims that the "AGENDA 21 MAP" (which had NOTHING to do with Agenda 21) CONSTITUTES "PROOF" that the United Nations is using diabolical means (like fires and laser beams from space) to force us out or our rural and suburban homes and into increasingly-smaller, densely-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" or "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, her claims about this map are not so. What Deborah Tavares fraudulently calls the "Agenda 21 Map" is FAKE and HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH AGENDA 21 in the first place. Instead, it was the work of a single opponent to the "Biological Diversity Treaty" (something different from Agenda 21) and was used to create opposition to that particular proposed treaty, WHICH THE UNITED STATES SENATE ALSO REJECTED. Because the United States REJECTED BOTH Agenda 21 and the "Biological Diversity Treaty" (to which the FAKE map related), BOTH ARE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT in the United States. The United Nations may actually be forcing us out of our rural and suburban homes and into increasingly-smaller, densely-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" or "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, THE AGENDA 21 DOCUMENT and the so-called "AGENDA 21 MAP" (upon which Deborah Tavares HERSELF says she bases this particular claim) provide no support for that proposition because they both relate to proposals THAT WERE REJECTED! SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #5 BELOW.

    5. "The FORGED PG&E Email Hoax". THE EMAILS ARE FORGERIES AND THE ALLEGATIONS CONTAINED IN THOSE FORGERIES ARE VERIFIABLY FALSE. PG&E is a California electrical utility company which collects and generates electricity in a variety of ways. But, PG&E's conventional solar panels can only collect energy from the Sun during daylight hours. So, in 2009, PG&E announced that in the future solar panels on satellites in space might collect energy from the Sun 24 hours a day, then beam it to earth in the form of lasers or radio frequencies and then convert it to electricity here on earth for its customers. When the recent forest fires burned northern California, Deborah Tavares wanted to blame PG&E and this technology for starting those fires. But, the scientific literature indicated that this technology did not yet exist. SO, TO REBUT THOSE FACTS, Deborah Tavares, herself, FORGED a series of FAKE emails (some purportedly between the CPUC and PG&E) indicating that this technology already existed, that it was already in use and that it could be used to start such fires, among other things. Thus, Deborah Tavares, herself, actually created the very FORGERIES which she fraudulently claims CONSTITUTE "PROOF" that PG&E used this technology to start the recent fires in California to kill us all in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, her claims about these FORGED emails are not so. These FORGED EMAILS prove nothing except that Deborah Tavares is a fraud. PG&E may actually be using lasers or radio frequencies beamed from satellites in space to kill us all in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, THESE PARTICULAR FORGED EMAILS THEMSELVES (upon which Deborah Tavares HERSELF says she bases this particular claim) provide no support for that proposition, because they are FORGERIES! SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #6 BELOW.

    6. "The Genocide Agreement Hoax". The document is REAL. So, the hoax is NOT the document itself. The "Genocide Agreement" is actually the nickname of a proposed 1940's United Nations agreement BANNING GENOCIDE among signatory nations. The proposed "Genocide Agreement" BANNED"GENOCIDE" and other harmful acts against identifiable groups of people like racial and religious minorities. In 1988, the United States Senate approved the "Genocide Agreement" and President Reagan signed it into law. So, the hoax is not the document itself. Instead, the hoax is Deborah Tavares' OWN fraudulent claims that the Genocide Agreement actually CAUSES the killing of entire populations. But, this is not so. The Genocide Agreement PREVENTS GENOCIDE of entire populations. The hoax is Deborah Tavares' OWN fraudulent claims that the Genocide Agreement ONLY BANS "NATIONS" FROM COMMITTING ACTS OF GENOCIDE and that THE UNITED STATES IS "NOT A NATION", BECAUSE "IT IS A CORPORATION" (which is not governed by the agreement or the ban) which permits the United States to COMMIT GENOCIDE on a "Day-by-Day" basis, which is why "WE ARE BEING EXTERMINATED". But, the truth is that the United States is not really a "corporation" and the Genocide Agreement actually bans genocide in the United States and subjects those who commit genocide to criminal prosecution. Finally, the hoax is also Deborah Tavares' OWN (ENTIRELY INCONSISTENT and CONTRADICTORY) claims that the genocide agreement DOES APPLY IN THE UNITED STATES and that it "INVADES DOMESTIC LAWS" and "ALLOWS FOREIGNERS TO 'OVER-RIDE' U.S. laws". (Note that if the Genocide Agreement really "DID NOT APPLY" to the United States because it is a "CORPORATION", it would be impossible for the Genocide Agreement TO SIMULTANEOUSLY APPLY in the United States so as to "invade" or "over-ride" any law in the United States.). Regardless, the truth is that the Genocide Agreement applies in the United States, but only "over-rides" U.S. law as to the specific acts banned by the agreement. Nothing more. The United States may actually be killing us all in an act or acts of genocide in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind, but THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT ITSELF (upon which Deborah Tavares HERSELF says she bases this particular claim) provides no support for that proposition, because this document applies in the United States and actually BANS GENOCIDE and subjects the violators to criminal prosecution. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #104 BELOW.

    7. "The Rothschilds Are Restructuring North America Hoax". In this hoax, Deborah Tavares fraudulently claims that an October, 30th 2017 press release stated that the Rothschilds were "restructuring North America" itself (as in "taking it over" and "changing it"). But, the subject press release DOES NOT say this. Instead, it merely says that a single Rothschild company was restructuring "IN" (as in "inside") North America. A full reading of the subject press release indicates that the term, "RESTRUCTURING'' as used in the press release, refers to this Rothschild company RESTRUCTURING DEBT (as in "re-financing"), NOT RESTRUCTURING ALL OF NORTH AMERICA ITSELF! The purpose of this hoax was to manufacture a connection between the "Rothschilds" and the Agenda 21 Hoax, to make Americans think that the "Rothschilds" are "restructuring" all of north America under the Agenda 21 model of "sustainable development" which Deborah Tavares fraudulently claims will drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into tightly-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" and "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, none of this is so. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #18 BELOW.

    8. "The Rothschilds Own All Of The Utility Companies Hoax". In this hoax, Deborah Tavares fraudulently claims that she obtained a curriculum vitae (effectively a resume' for "expert witnesses") attached to the sworn testimony of a member of the Rothschild family wherein he stated that "he OWNED hundreds of utility companies". But, the subject curriculum vitae DOES NOT say this. Instead, it merely says that a "James A. Rothschild" is a financial consultant AND AN "EXPERT WITNESS" who has TESTIFIED in dozens and dozens of court cases in which utility companies were parties (a plaintiff or a defendant). Nothing more. In support of this same hoax, Deborah Tavares also fraudulently claims that she recently attended a PG&E stock holder's meeting wherein the PG&E Board Of Directors were allegedly seated in the front row of the audience and individually introduced to the stockholders. She fraudulently claims that a person named "Rothschild" was introduced to the stockholders as a PG&E "Board Member" (as if that would make him the "OWNER" of PG&E). But, this claim is not so. NO PG&E BOARD MEMBER HAS THE NAME, "ROTHSCHILD". The purpose of this hoax was to manufacture a connection between the "Rothschilds" and the Agenda 21 Hoax, to make Americans think that the Rothschilds are using "THEIR" utility company technologies as "weapons" to "target" us all and to drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into tightly-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" and "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, none of this is so. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #18 BELOW.

    9. "The London Accounting Firms Will Bankrupt All Our Cities Hoax". In this hoax, Deborah Tavares claims that she read a December 26th, 2017 article in the "Press Democrat", a local Santa Rosa newspaper, which allegedly stated that Ernst & Young (a London-based accounting firm) will bankrupt all of our cities. She also claims that the article stated that Ernst & Young had “placed a value on the air that we breathe... the fresh water that we drink [and] on every tree in our forests". She claims that this "value" is actually a "price" that we will have to pay the global elite for our air, water, trees and other natural resources. But, the subject article DOES NOT say this. Instead, the subject article merely says that the city of Santa Rosa had hired Ernst & Young to determine the amount of fire damage the city had suffered in the recent California fires and to represent the city IN OBTAINING REIMBURSEMENT of that amount from FEMA. In order to do its job, Ernst & Young would necessarily have to place a "value" on city-owned property destroyed in the fires (ex: buildings, roads, bridges and infrastructure). Nothing in the article suggests that Ernst & Young would place a value on our air, water, trees or other natural resources. The article specifically states that FEMA WILL REIMBURSE THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA FOR THE COSTS OF ERNST & YOUNG'S ACCOUNTING SERVICES. In fact, federal law REQUIRES that FEMA reimburse such cities for the accounting costs they incur in seeking and in obtaining reimbursement from FEMA. Thus, NO CITY IS GOING BANKRUPT as a result of hiring Ernst & Young to determine the amount of fire damage it had suffered in the recent California fires or to represent the city IN OBTAINING REIMBURSEMENT of that amount from FEMA! The purpose of this hoax was to make Americans think that the global elite will bankrupt all of our cities, that we will have to pay the global elite to breathe air and to drink water and to otherwise incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #48 BELOW.

    10. "The Judge DALE Hoax". ALL OF THE "JUDGE DALE" BOOKS ARE FORGERIES. Further, EVERY SINGLE CLAIM IN THE JUDGE "DALE" FORGERIES ABOUT THE LAW AND THE LEGAL SYSTEM IS ALSO VERIFIABLY FALSE. Deborah Tavares, Al Whitney (real name "Anita Laurin") and amateur legal theorist, Rodney "DALE" Class (who has lost 76 cases in a row) wrote every single word of these FORGERIES (including "The Great American Adventure: Secrets Of America" and "The Matrix And The US Constitution"). But, they fraudulently told the American people these books were written by a "retired federal judge" named "Judge DALE" (which uses Rodney "DALE" Class' middle name, "DALE", as an inside joke on the American people). DEBORAH TAVARES HAS ALREADY ADMITTED THIS TO US! The purpose of this hoax was to make Americans think that their government and their justice system is completely illegal, illegitimate, invalid, corrupt & diabolical and to otherwise incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #58 BELOW.

    11. "The Court Registry Investment System Hoax". THE DOCUMENT IS A FORGERY. Deborah Tavares and her partners (including Al Whitney, Jeanette Triplett and Rod Class) assembled this FAKE government document from parts of REAL government documents and then ALTERED and CHANGED the WORDS to make it fit the hoax. Deborah Tavares' fraudulently claims that her FORGED government document itself constitutes "proof" that all of the money collected by the courts in fines and penalties is forwarded on to the Federal Reserve to keep. But, this is not so. The purpose of this hoax was to make Americans think that the courts are merely collection agents for the Federal Reserve, to make Americans think that their justice system is completely illegal, illegitimate, invalid, corrupt & diabolical and to otherwise incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #53 BELOW.

    12. "The All Governments And Government Agencies Are Private, For-Profit Corporations Hoax". This hoax involves several false documents and false videos. In this hoax, Deborah Tavares and Al Whitney (real name "Anita Laurin") fraudulently claim that all governments and government agencies are actually private, for-profit corporations "posing" as governments and government agencies which "profit" by taxing, burdening and abusing the American people. To support this fraudulent claim, Deborah Tavares and Al Whitney cite examples of several ORDINARY, PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT CORPORATIONS which happen to have names that SOUND SIMILAR to the names of governments and government agencies (like "Federal Express" for example). But, contrary to their claims, NONE of the ORDINARY, PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT CORPORATIONS that they cite in support of this hoax are really governments or government agencies. Not one! They also fraudulently CHANGED THE REAL NAME of one such ORDINARY, PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION TO A FAKE NAME to make it fit the hoax (from "Internal Revenue Tax And Audit Service, Inc.", a private, for-profit corporation, to "Internal Revenue Service", a government agency). This hoax was designed to make Americans think that all governments and agencies are completely illegal, invalid, illegitimate, corrupt & diabolical and to otherwise incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POSTS #63 and #68 BELOW.

    13. "The BOMBSHELL: Rod Class Has Obtained His Forth Administrative Ruling That All Government Agencies Are 'Private Entities' Hoax". This hoax involves several FAKE press releases (co-authored by Deborah Tavares) and several false videos. Note that this hoax was actually created in support of the hoax above to the effect that all governments and government agencies are private, for-profit corporations (a Deborah Tavares hoax). The purpose of this hoax was to make Americans think that our state and local government agencies (including the DMV and local police departments) are completely illegal, invalid, illegitimate, corrupt & diabolical and to otherwise incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #100 BELOW.

    14. "The... Property Into Other Peoples' Names Hoax". This hoax involves several FAKE press releases and false videos. In this hoax, Rod Class and his partners (including Deborah Tavares) fraudulently claim that "a North Carolina judge has warned all [in-state] police officers to put their property into other peoples' names" (to make Americans think they can successfully sue police officers "personally" because they are merely "private contractors" impersonating public servants who issue traffic tickets to generate "profits" for their "corporate employers"). Note that this hoax was actually created in support of the hoax above to the effect that all governments and government agencies are private, for-profit corporations (a Deborah Tavares hoax). The purpose of this hoax was to make Americans think our local government agencies are completely illegal, illegitimate, invalid, corrupt & diabolical and to otherwise incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #101 BELOW.

    15. "The FAKE Jim Traficant Speech Hoax". This hoax involves a FAKE and FORGED "transcript" of a speech that a Congressman allegedly made to Congress to the effect that our federal government went bankrupt in 1933. (The REAL transcript of this speech is in the official "Congressional Record" and does NOT say this.). Deborah Tavares, herself, actually posted this FAKE and FORGED document on her own website. Deborah Tavares has also posted several videos on YouTube wherein she quotes this document despite knowing that it is a FORGERY. Whether or not the United States actually went bankrupt in 1933 is irrelevant to this hoax. The hoax is that Deborah Tavares knowingly uses a document that she knows to be a FORGERY in support of that proposition. That is fraud. The purpose of this hoax was to make Americans think that they themselves are "collateral" and debt slaves who exist solely to pay debts arising out of that alleged "bankruptcy" and to make Americans think that our government is completely illegal, illegitimate, invalid, corrupt & diabolical and to otherwise incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #160 BELOW.

    16. "The Sovereign Citizen Hoax". This hoax involves a FAKE and FORGED document written by Rodney "DALE" Class while pretending to be Judge "DALE" . This FAKE and FORGED document was posted on the website of Al Whitney (real name "Anita Laurin") who, like Rod Class, is also Deborah Tavares' partner in these hoaxes. The purpose of this hoax was to make Americans think that ONLY AN INDIVIDUAL IS "SOVEREIGN" and that "WE the PEOPLE" (plural terms) COLLECTIVELY, AS A WHOLE (in the form of our own elected government) ARE NOT "SOVEREIGN" (exactly backwards to the truth), such that our laws do not apply to INDIVIDUALS (the pretend "sovereigns"). But, none of this is so. Under U.S. law, the word "sovereign" means "WE the PEOPLE" (plural terms) COLLECTIVELY, AS A WHOLE in the form of our ELECTED government, not "the individual". The purpose of this hoax was to make Americans think that "WE the PEOPLE" (plural terms) COLLECTIVELY, AS A WHOLE (in the form of our elected government) have no right to enforce our own laws, made by our own ELECTED lawmakers, against any INDIVIDUAL (the pretend "sovereigns") and to otherwise incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #108 BELOW.


    ACTUAL PROOF OF ALL OF THE FOREGOING IS POSTED IN THE COMMENTS BELOW.

    For the hoaxes of ROD CLASS, click here.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...70#post1174970

    For the hoaxes of CARL MILLER, click here.
    https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...161#post229161

    For the hoaxes of EDDIE CRAIG, click here.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...y-sheriff-hoax

    For the hoaxes of DEBRA JONES, click here.
    https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...352#post230352;
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...bra-Jones-Hoax.

    ABOUT SNOOP4TRUTH:
    Snoop4truth is a legal expert and whistle blower who exposes online hoaxes. Snoop4truth did not reveal this information to harm Deborah Tavares. Instead, Snoop4truth revealed this information solely to reduce the CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE that such intentional fraud inflicts upon the American people every single day. Had it not been for Deborah Tavares' role in the "Judge DALE Hoax", Snoop4truth would not have revealed this information here.

    The message to all charlatans and hoaxers? Just tell the truth. The truth does not fear investigation. Only lies fear investigation. The truth can be supported by using the truth. Only lies must be supported by using hoaxes (other lies). There is no such thing as a "good reason" to intentionally defraud the American people, not even to make a popular (and sensational) conspiracy theory appear to be true.
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    Re: The hoaxes of deborah tavares (conspiracy, weaponized weather, fires, depopulation)

    DEBORAH TAVARES & THE NASA WAR DOCUMENT HOAX.

    For all other hoaxes of Deborah Tavares (NASA, Silent Weapons, Iron Mountain, Agenda 21, PG&E Fires, Genocide), click here. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...eborah-Tavares

    HOAX OVERVIEW:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=%22D...w=1366&bih=651

    VIDEOS OF DEBORAH TAVARES ACTUALLY ENGAGED IN THE HOAX:
    (Note: Jeff Rense is not involved in this hoax.).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5vLuGPV-lU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrzEwYlb5CU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llh0ULNz918
    (at 8:45-13:35)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXSqgD1KjdY (at 43:30-44:20, 46:00-46:55);

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfG9zljgFh0 (at 7:35-8:00);

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk4hfIVIoT4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llh0ULNz918
    (30:10-32:15)

    THE DOCUMENT:
    http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/nasa-thefutureof-war (Note the website.).

    THE HOAX:
    In THE NASA WAR DOCUMENT HOAX, Deborah Tavares fraudulently claims that she downloaded a "secret" or "leaked" government document from a "NASA" website which she claims "PROVES" that NASA ITSELF IS CURRENTLY KILLING US ALL with diabolical, horrific, futuristic high-tech weapons in furtherance of the "PLANNED" "EXTINCTION OF MANKIND". But, none of her claims about this document are so.

    What Deborah Tavares calls "The NASA War Document" was actually a POWER POINT PRESENTATION which was used as a "VISUAL AID" for an oral presentation that a NASA chief scientist (Dennis M. Bushnell) gave at an August 13th-16th, 2001 NATIONAL CONVENTION in Orlando, Florida. The convention was attended by THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN DEFENSE CONTRACTORS who develop COUNTERMEASURES (defenses) to potential, theoretical, FUTURE, high-tech weapons that OTHER NATIONS could theoretically develop to use AGAINST the American people IN THE FUTURE (AS DESCRIBED IN THE ORIGINAL POWER POINT PRESENTATION).

    That means that the horrific, potential, FUTURE, high-tech weapons described in the original "NASA War document" WERE NOT weapons that NASA itself was using "AGAINST" the American people. Instead, they were horrific, potential, theoretical, FUTURE, high-tech weapons that the NASA chief scientist WAS URGING AMERICAN DEFENSE CONTRACTORS (at the convention) TO DEVELOP COUNTERMEASURES "AGAINST".

    Achive.org (which records everything ever posted online) indicates that the original power point slide presentation WAS NEVER POSTED ON ANY NASA WEBSITE. (So, contrary to Deborah Tavares' claims, it was never "downloaded" or "leaked" from a "NASA website").

    Archive.org indicates that Bushnell’s original power point slide presentation WAS ACTUALLY POSTED IN THE "PUBLIC DOMAIN" FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE on the "US Department of Defense’s Defense Technical INFORMATION CENTER website" (A PUBLIC WEBSITE) a month BEFORE the 2001 convention at which Bushnell was scheduled to speak. IT WAS NEVER POSTED ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE WEB!

    This means that Deborah Tavares' claim that the subject document was "discovered and downloaded from a NASA website" IS A LIE.

    ANALYSIS: Deborah Tavares had very good reason for LYING to the American people about the TRUE SOURCE of the original document. If she truthfully admitted that the original document was downloaded from the PUBLIC website of the “US Department of DEFENSE’S DEFENSE Technical INFORMATION CENTER” (a PUBLIC website), then the original document would not appear to be "secret", diabolical, nefarious or otherwise part of a "conspiracy" to kill us all. This is because the U.S. government does not usually post written proof of its own conspiracies to kill its own people on ITS OWN PUBLIC “INFORMATION CENTER” WEBSITE FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE.

    WHAT THE DOCUMENT ACTUALLY SAYS, BY PAGE NUMBER.

    Page 6. THE THREAT OF "Russia, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan" (ALL OF WHICH ARE OTHER NATIONS).

    Page 7. THE THREAT THAT "70% of the world's research is going on OUTSIDE THE U.S."

    Page 7. THE THREAT THAT "[The] U.S. produces... [only] 18% of the world's GDP".

    Page 32. THE THREAT THAT OTHER COUNTRIES LEAD THE U.S. in science, research, trade, economics, savings rates and math scores.

    Page 33. THE THREAT THAT according to current ECONOMINC trends, the U.S. IS FALLING BEHIND while China and other countries ARE EXCELLING.

    Page 100. THE THREAT THAT OVER "TWO-THIRDS OF ALL SATELLITES IN SPACE ARE NOW FOREIGN OWNED."

    Page 113. Reflecting that the USUAL AUDIENCE REACTIONS (responses) to the forgoing presentation are, among other things:

    a). "THEY [foreign nations] WOULD NOT DO THAT [referring to using such weapons against Americans].";

    b). "WE [Americans] have to hope THEY [foreign nations] WOULD NOT DO THAT" [referring to using such weapons against Americans];

    c). "WHY GO THERE, [WE AMERICANS] CANNOT DEFEND AGAINST IT [referring to the use of such weapons against Americans]."

    "C-A-N-N-O-T-----D-E-F-E-N-D-----A-G-A-I-N-S-T-----I-T"

    Thus, even Deborah Tavares' OWN version of the NASA document clearly states that the horrific, high-tech, future weapons described therein WERE WEAPONS THAT OTHER NATIONS COULD DEVELOP FOR USE AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE!

    PROOF:

    ARCHIVE.ORG’S RECORDS ON THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT:
    https://archive.org/details/FutureSt...rfareCirca2025
    ( SCROLL DOWN, DOWN, DOWN TO THE HIDDEN ARTICLE BELOW, BELOW, BELOW THE PDF).

    ONLY WEBSITE WHERE THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT WAS EVER POSTED (DTIC):
    http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/.

    TRADE ASSOCIATION THAT SPONSORED THE CONVENTION (NDIA):
    http://www.ndia.org/Pages/default.aspx

    RECORD OF THE NDIA CONVENTION:
    http://www.dtic.mil/docs/citations/ADM002244

    COMPUTER ANALYSIS OF PDF METADATA:
    (Scroll down and read the comments of senior member, “Flamesong” beginning with the comment posted on “26-06-2013, 09:02 PM” and the following comment posted on “26-06-2013, 09:39 PM”):
    https://forum.davidicke.com/showthre...=248938&page=2

    CONCLUSION:
    Thus, contrary to the claims of Deborah Tavares, THE "NASA WAR DOCUMENT" DOES NOT "PROVE" THAT NASA ITSELF IS CURRENTLY KILLING US ALL WITH HORRIFIC, FUTURISTIC, HIGH-TECH WEAPONS in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. To the contrary, a careful reading of the NASA WAR DOCUMENT actually reflects that NASA is trying to protect us from such diabolical weapons (ex: page 113). The fact that NASA created and used the document to urge American defense contractors develop countermeasures against such diabolical weapons actually reflects that NASA seeks to prevent any planned extinction of mankind, exactly BACKWARDS to what Deborah Tavares claims in her hoax. Deborah Tavares knew the truth about the document all along, but she decided to lie to the American people about it anyway in order to incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans.

    So, whether or not there is a "planned extinction of mankind", this document provides NO SUPPORT FOR THAT PROPOSITION.

    YouTube video on this very hoax by Virgo Triad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQZmq_vMcSQ

    For the hoaxes of ROD CLASS, click here.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99447-Rod-Class-his-many-hoaxes&p=1174970#post1174970

    For the hoaxes of CARL MILLER, click here.
    https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...161#post229161

    For the hoaxes of EDDIE CRAIG, click here.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...y-sheriff-hoax

    For the hoaxes of DEBRA JONES, click here.
    https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...352#post230352;
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...bra-Jones-Hoax.


    ABOUT SNOOP4TRUTH:
    Snoop4truth is a legal expert and whistle blower who exposes online hoaxes. Snoop4truth did not reveal this information to harm Deborah Tavares. Instead, Snoop4truth revealed this information solely to reduce the CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE that such intentional fraud inflicts upon the American people every single day. Had it not been for Deborah Tavares' role in the "Judge DALE Hoax", Snoop4truth would not have revealed this information here.

    The message to all charlatans and hoaxers? Just tell the truth. The truth does not fear investigation. Only lies fear investigation. The truth can be supported by using the truth. Only lies must be supported by using hoaxes (other lies). There is no such thing as a "good reason" to intentionally defraud the American people, not even to make a popular (and sensational) conspiracy theory appear to be true.
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    DEBORAH TAVARES & THE SILENT WEAPONS FOR QUIET WARS HOAX.

    For all other Deborah Tavares hoaxes (NASA, Silent Weapons, Iron Mountain, Agenda 21, PG&E Fires, Genocide), click here: https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...s-depopulation).

    VIDEOS OF DEBORAH TAVARES ENGAGED IN THE HOAX:
    (Jeff Rense is not involved in the hoax.).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3JfZDyj0KU (at 10:50-59:50);

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXSqgD1KjdY (at 13:50-19:15, 31:40-33:00, 43:00-43:20, 124:00-124:50);

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfG9zljgFh0 (at 3:25-4:20; 9:55-10:35);

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3JfZDyj0KU (at 10:50-16:00);

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D78hBBAH7hk (at 14:00-14:40);

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2rFlcJZfck (at 13:50-15:45);

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9FU2J8qh4U (at 1:02:10-1:03:50).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llh0ULNz918 (at 17:05-18:15)

    THE DOCUMENT:

    http://stopthecrime.net/docs/SILENT.pdf (NOTE WEBSITE).

    THE HOAX:
    In THE SILENT WEAPONS FOR QUIET WARS HOAX, Deborah Tavares fraudulently claims to have discovered another "secret" or "leaked" official document which she claims constitutes "PROOF" that "The Bilderbergs" are killing us all (or "plan" to kill us all) with "SILENT WEAPONS" in "QUIET WARS" in furtherance of the "planned extinction of mankind". (Deborah Tavares fraudulently claims that these "SILENT WEAPONS" are diabolical economics, cell phones, cell towers, WIFI, smart meters, 5G, geo-engineering, PG&E DEW's in space, HAARP, etc.). But, NONE of her claims about this document are so.

    Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars ("SWFQW") is actually a short, 44 page booklet of POLITICAL FICTION written by Lyle Hartford Van Dyke in 1979. (Van Dyke is a convicted felon who spent a decade in federal prison for fraud, for manufacturing and uttering FAKE currency drawn on the U.S. Treasury".). SWFQW is not a secret, leaked or suppressed government document. Van Dyke was not a whistle blower. He was a political commentator.

    Van Dyke believed (perhaps correctly) that the U.S. had advance knowledge of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and allowed it to happen (killing thousands of American soldiers) in order to draw the U.S. into World War II. (Van Dyke's father's uncle was directly involved in all these alleged events and Van Dyke was raised to believe that all of this was so.).

    Van Dyke was outraged by this perceived treasonous ACT OF WAR BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT UPON ITS OWN SOLDIERS and wanted to make the HORRORS of this perceived treasonous act of war "PERSONAL" to the American public. So, Van Dyke wrote SWFQW and suggested that instead of intentionally killing ITS OWN SOLDIERS in such a treasonous act of war, the U.S. government was instead killing IT OWN CIVILIAN POPULATION in such a treasonous act of war (a clever twist of the perceived facts). (Note that this claim would indeed make the HORRORS of such a "Pearl Harbor-type" war on Americans "PERSONAL" to the reader.)

    But, Van Dyke realized that the public would not actually believe his premise (of a U.S. war against the American public) without the presence of the usual weapons of war, like those that were present at Pearl Harbor (armed soldiers, trucks, tanks, planes, ships, missiles, bombs, etc.). So, in writing SWFQW, Van Dyke suggested that all of the weapons that the U.S. government was using in this FICTIONAL war against the American public were high tech weapons that COULD NOT BE SEEN OR HEARD (which Deborah Tavares has recently embellished to mean diabolical economics, cell phones, cell towers, WIFI, microwaves, "smart meters", 5G, geo-engineering, PG&E DEWS's in space and HAARP, etc.).

    Indeed, it was precisely because such weapons could not be seen or heard that Van Dyke's claims actually appeared to be true. All of this actually made Van Dyke's claims of INVISIBLE & INAUDIBLE weapons MORE (not less) BELIEVABLE to the reader. By using this ruse, VAN DYKE ACTUALLY MADE THE ABSENCE OF WEAPONS EVEN MORE HORRIFYING TO THE READER THAN THEIR PRESENCE WOULD HAVE BEEN. It was absolutely brilliant.

    Van Dyke openly admits that SWFQW was inspired by an earlier book of POLITICAL FICTION which he greatly admired entitled, "The Report From Iron Mountain" (see below). Van Dyke also openly admits to having incorporated sections of REAL scientific and economic TECHNICAL studies of others into his work (as did "The Report From Iron Mountain" on which his work was modeled) to make his work look more realistic. (In Van Dyke's letters to ParaniaMagazine.com, attached below, he TWICE correctly identifies the REAL author of The Report From Iron Mountain, Leonard C. Lewin). Finally, Van Dyke openly admits that he created SWFQW to read like an official governmental document (as did "The Report From Iron Mountain" on which his work was modeled) in order to make the HORRORS of the U.S. government waging a covert war against its own citizens APPEAR MORE REALISTIC and therefore MORE TERRIFYING to the reader. It worked.

    FACT:
    According to Van Dyke himself, the ORIGINAL version of his document HAD NO PREFACE/FORWARD AT ALL. So, it would be IMPOSSIBLE for that non-existent preface/forward to refer to "The Bilderberg Group". But, the version of this document on Deborah Tavares' own website contains a recently-created FAKE preface/forward which falsely indicates that SWFQW was a plan adopted by the "Policy Committee" of "The Bilderberg Group" in 1954 at its first known meeting. But, that is not so.

    PROOF:
    FOR THE BEST PROOF OF THE FACTS ABOVE, SCROLL DOWN TO THE ATTACHMENTS AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THIS POST AND CLICK ON EACH ONE IN ORDER. LOOK FOR EMPHASIS.

    VAN DYKE'S OWN WORDS ABOUT SWFQW:
    http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_...uiet_Wars.html
    (THIS IS A MUST READ.)

    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/s...l_cooper6a.htm

    (THIS IS A MUST READ.)

    PROOF THAT VAN DYKE'S COMPLAINT WAS THE ALLEGED U.S. BETRAYAL AT PEARL HARBOR:
    When discussing his work, Van Dyke himself said, "Also #74-1120 [a CODE Van Dyke placed into SWFQW] IS AN ANAGRAM OF THE DATE OF THE JAPANESE ATTACK ON PEARL HARBOR, 41-12-07... . My book on the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was published at the end of August 1973." (Excerpt from the link above).


    PROOF THAT VAN DYKE'S COMPLAINT WAS THE ALLEGED U.S. BETRAYAL AT PEARL HARBOR:
    http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/2016...h-pearl-harbor
    (THIS IS A MUST READ.)

    PROOF THAT VAN DYKE'S COMPLAINT WAS THE ALLEGED U.S. BETRAYAL AT PEARL HARBOR:
    https://rense.com/general69/advance.htm
    (THIS IS A MUST READ.)


    PROOF THAT VAN DYKE WAS THE AUTHOR, THAT IT DID NOT MENTION "THE BILDERBERGS" AND THAT HE INCORPORATED REAL SCIENTIFIC AND ECONOMIC STUDIES OF OTHERS INTO HIS WORK:
    https://henrithibodeau.wordpress.com...al-domination/
    (THIS IS A MUST READ.)

    http://trueconspiracyblog.blogspot.com/2006/08/hartford-van-dyke-and-truth-about.html

    https://steemit.com/new/@anarcho-pirate/operations-research-silent-weapons-for-quiet-wars

    http://loons38.rssing.com/chan-9751110/all_p61.html
    (at the 3rd section at about 7% through the text)


    CONCLUSION:
    Thus, contrary to the claims of Deborah Tavares', SWFQW DOES NOT "PROVE" THAT "THE BILDERBERGS" PLANNED TO KILL US ALL WITH "SILENT WEAPONS" IN "QUIET WARS" in furtherance of the panned extinction of mankind. To the contrary, SWFQW actually reflects an effort on the part of a single American civilian, THROUGH THE CLEVER USE OF FICTION, to call attention to U.S. war policies that he perceived as harmful to Americans. Deborah Tavares knew the truth about the document all along, but she decided to lie to the American people about it anyway in order to incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans.

    So, whether or not there is a "planned extinction of mankind", this document provides NO SUPPORT FOR THAT PROPOSITION.

    YouTube video on this very hoax by VIrgo Triad.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJJynF_3zU
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    DEBORAH TAVARES & THE REPORT FROM IRON MOUNTAIN HOAX.

    For all other Deborah Tavares hoaxes (NASA, Silent Weapons, Iron Mountain, Agenda 21, PG&E Fires, Genocide), click here: https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...s-depopulation).

    VIDEOS OF DEBORAH TAVARES ENGAGED IN THE HOAX:
    (Jeff Rense is not involved in the hoax.).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GKZSTbtBgo (at 13:00-16:10, 18:30-28:40);

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXSqgD1KjdY (at 37:50-39:30, 40:45-41:25, 42:40-43:00);

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTRPZD3_w5k&t=2551s (at 59:15-106:05);

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eei6_4dpK4 (at 25:05-26:10);

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3JfZDyj0KU (at 100:30-105:40).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D78hBBAH7hk (at 100:30-105:40)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_n3v3CxQH8 (at 34:40-37:40)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPISSEErIs4 (at 25:05-26:10)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llh0ULNz918 (at 18:15-21:30)

    THE DOCUMENT:

    http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/Rep..._Iron_Mountain (NOTE WEBSITE).

    THE HOAX: In THE REPORT FROM IRON MOUNTAIN HOAX, Deborah Tavares also fraudulently claims to have discovered another "secret" and/or "leaked" and/or "suppressed" government document which she claims "proves" that ALL ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHES ("global warming", "climate change", increased drought, fires, etc.) ARE "ENGINEERED" by the U.S. government to kill us all in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, none of these claims about this document are so.

    The Report From Iron Mountain ON THE POSSIBILITY AND DESIRABILITY OF PEACE ("TRFIM") was a 1967 book of POLITICAL SATIRE written by Leonard C. Lewin which was SO POPULAR and SO WIDELY READ that it actually made the "New York Times Best Seller List". (So much for Deborah Tavares' "secret", "leaked" or "suppressed" document story.). It is not a "secret", "leaked" or "suppressed" government document. Lewin was not a whistle blower. He was a political commentator.

    It was 1967. It was the middle of the Vietnam War. Lewin was critical of U.S. policy because the U.S. had been in an almost perpetual state of war for decades and he believed (perhaps correctly) that the U.S. economy was too dependent upon military spending. In criticizing this U.S policy, Lewin SARCASTICALLY observed that U.S. policy makers MUST HAVE BELIEVED THAT THE U.S. COULD NOT AFFORD PEACE (meaning that if the U.S. was not actually engaged in perpetual wars, the U.S. government and the U.S. economy might actually collapse).

    Lewin sought to make a MOCKERY of this U.S. war policy and the ABSURDITY of the beliefs that apparently underlied it. Lewin wanted to publicly EMBARRASS and HUMILIATE U.S. policy makers who supported a policy of perpetual war. So, he wrote "The Report From Iron Mountain ON THE POSSIBILITY AND DESIRABILITY OF PEACE" (the book's FULL title). (Note that it is the FINAL SEVEN WORDS of this title which reveal Lewin's TRUE thesis statement.)

    So, in writing TRFIM, Lewin pretended to be an imaginary committee of the U.S. government which pretended to "report" to these very same U.S. policy makers (whom he sought to EMBARRASS and HUMILIATE) that PEACE WAS POSSIBLE, BUT NOT DESIRABLE (hence, the FULL title to Lewin's book). In writing TRFIM (and in pretending to be an imaginary committee of the U.S. government), Lewin pretended to "report" to U.S. policy makers that the U.S. economy was so dependent on perpetual war that "IF PEACE BROKE OUT", THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WOULD BE FORCED TO CREATE "FAKE ENEMIES" (called "alternative enemies") TO JUSTIFY "FAKE WARS" (called "credible substitutes" for wars) AGAINST THOSE "FAKE ENEMIES" in order to prop up the U.S. government and the U.S. economy. (Note here how Lewin OPENLY MOCKS U.S. policy of engaging perpetual wars by making it EVEN MORE ABSURD than it already was.).

    Specifically, in writing TRFIM (and in pretending to be an imaginary committee of the U.S. government), Lewin pretended to "report" to U.S. policy makers that "IF PEACE BROKE OUT", THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WOULD BE FORCED TO CREATE "FAKE ALIEN LIFE FORMS" and ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHES to justify "FAKE WARS" against those "FAKE ENEMIES" to prop up the U.S. economy. (Note here how Lewin OPENLY MOCKS U.S. policy of engaging perpetual wars by making it EVEN MORE ABSURD than it already was.). It was absolutely brilliant.

    Deborah Tavares claims that the ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHES in the book refer to "global warming", "climate change", increased drought, fires, etc. But, this is not so. The book's focus is environmental POLLUTION, not global warming, climate change, drought or fires. Deborah Tavares also fraudulently claims that the U.S. Government actually uses these "engineered" ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHES (like "POLLUTION" described in the book) as "weapons" to kill us all in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind (SOMETHING NOT IN THE BOOK). But, this claim is not so.

    The premise of Lewin's book was that the U.S. economy is so dependent on military spending that "IF PEACE BROKE OUT", the U.S. would be forced to CREATE "FAKE ENEMIES" to "justify" "FAKE WARS" against those "FAKE ENEMIES" to prop up the U.S. economy. Lewin did not intend the readers of his book to believe that the U.S. government was ACTUALLY creating ALIEN LIFE FORMS or ACTUALLY creating ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHES . Instead, Lewin merely used those two absurd examples of "FAKE enemies" TO MAKE A MOCKERY of how far the U.S. government would go TO CREATE FAKE ENEMIES TO JUSTIFY PERPETUAL WARS to prop up the U.S. economy.

    Lewin created TRFIM to read like an official U.S. government committee "REPORT" to U.S. policy makers IN ORDER TO PUBLICLY EMBARRASS AND HUMILIATE U.S. POLICY MAKERS WHO SUPPORTED PERPETUAL WAR (by making their policy of perpetual war APPEAR EVEN MORE "ABSURD" THAN IT ALREADY WAS). It worked. Lewin (like Van Dyke above) incorporated REAL scientific studies into his work to make it look more realistic.

    As if to prove that Lewin was the REAL author of TRFIM, when an unauthorized publisher later re-published his book without his permission (and without paying him royalties), HE SUED THE RE-PUBLISHER AND WON A LARGE SETTLEMENT, something that would have been impossible if the book had actually been written by a REAL "committee of the U. S. government" as Tavares falsely claims.

    PROOF:

    http://hoaxes.org/archive/permalink/..._iron_mountain

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Report_from_Iron_Mountain


    http://scua.library.umass.edu/umarmot/lewin-leonard-c/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Re..._Iron_Mountain

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_C._Lewin

    http://articles.latimes.com/1999/feb/01/news/mn-3716

    https://www.biblio.com/leonard-c-lewin/author/560147

    CONCLUSION:
    Thus, contrary to the claims of Deborah Tavares', TRFIM DOES NOT "PROVE" THAT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS ACTUALLY CREATING "ENGINEERED" ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHES (such as "global warming", "climate change", "engineered drought", fires, etc.) TO USE AS "WEAPONS" to kill us all in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind (something not in the book). To the contrary, SWFQW actually reflects an effort on the part of a single American civilian, THROUGH THE CLEVER USE OF FICTION, to call attention to U.S. war policies that he perceived as harmful to Americans. Deborah Tavares knew the truth about the document all along, but she decided to lie to the American people about it anyway in order to incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans.

    So, whether or not there is a "planned extinction of mankind", this document provides NO SUPPORT FOR THAT PROPOSITION.

    Youtube video on this very hoax by Virgo Triad.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjqQReWw_Dk

    For the hoaxes of ROD CLASS, click here.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99447-Rod-Class-his-many-hoaxes&p=1174970#post1174970

    For the hoaxes of CARL MILLER, click here.
    https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...161#post229161

    For the hoaxes of EDDIE CRAIG, click here.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...y-sheriff-hoax

    For the hoaxes of DEBRA JONES, click here.
    https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...352#post230352;
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...bra-Jones-Hoax.


    ABOUT SNOOP4TRUTH:
    Snoop4truth is a legal expert and whistle blower who exposes online hoaxes. Snoop4truth did not reveal this information to harm Deborah Tavares. Instead, Snoop4truth revealed this information solely to reduce the CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE that such intentional fraud inflicts upon the American people every single day. Had it not been for Deborah Tavares' role in the "Judge DALE Hoax", Snoop4truth would not have revealed this information here.

    The message to all charlatans and hoaxers? Just tell the truth. The truth does not fear investigation. Only lies fear investigation. The truth can be supported by using the truth. Only lies must be supported by using hoaxes (other lies). There is no such thing as a "good reason" to intentionally defraud the American people, not even to make a popular (and sensational) conspiracy theory appear to be true.
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    DEBORAH TAVARES & THE AGENDA 21 HOAX.

    For all other Deborah Tavares hoaxes (NASA, Silent Weapons, Iron Mountain, Agenda 21, PG&E Fires, Genocide), click here: https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...s-depopulation).

    VIDEOS OF DEBORAH TAVARES ENGAGED IN THE HOAX:
    (Jeff Rense is not involved in the hoax.).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WQfXQWHRAw (at 4:40-4:50, 9:25-9:55)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeNsM0a75iE (at 23:25-23:50)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cq1NipzK-Y (at 31:05-32:50)

    THE DOCUMENTS: The Agenda 21 Hoax is based on TWO DOCUMENTS. The Agenda 21 document itself was a REAL United Nations document. So, the hoax is not the document itself. Agenda 21 was merely a SUGGESTION WHICH THE UNITED STATES SENATE REJECTED. And, under the United States Constitution, Senate approval is required for the United States to enter into a treaty or to make federal law. (See the 2nd paragraph here. https://www.annenbergclassroom.org/article-ii-section-2). So, Agenda 21 NEVER BECAME A TREATY and NEVER BECAME THE LAW. That means Agenda 21 is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT in the United States.

    The other document involved in this hoax is a "SIMULATED" land use map which Deborah Tavares fraudulently calls the "Agenda 21 Map". This "SIMULATED" land use map is FAKE and HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH AGENDA 21 in the first place. Instead, it related to the proposed "Biological Diversity Treaty" (something different from Agenda 21) WHICH THE UNITED STATES SENATE ALSO REJECTED. So, that proposed treaty (and its FAKE map) are also COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT in the United States.

    Deborah Tavares knew the truth (above) all along, but nevertheless decided to lie about it anyway in order to incite fear, hatred and violence against innocent Americans.

    THE HOAX:
    In the "Agenda 21 Hoax", Deborah Tavares fraudulently claims that the Agenda 21 document "CONSTITUTES PROOF" that the United Nations is using diabolical methods (like fires and laser beams from satellites in space) to force us out or our rural and suburban homes and into increasingly-smaller, densely-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" or "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, her claims about this document are not so. See proof below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cq1NipzK-Y (at 30:45-32:55).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9FU2J8qh4U (at 5:00-6:05);
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAwycy_u110 (at 14:50-16:50);
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cq1NipzK-Y (at 30:45-32:55).

    The Agenda 21 document was written by the world's leading environmental scientists (not by "PG&E", the "Rothschilds" or the "Rockefellers"). Agenda 21 was first presented to the public at the "EARTH SUMMIT" (an environmental conference) in Rio De Janeiro, Brazil in 1992.

    The idea behind Agenda 21 was that the survival of mankind on Earth is dependent on the survival of the environment on Earth. By saving the environment, we can save mankind. So, Agenda 21 was intended to prevent the extinction of mankind, exactly opposite to what Deborah Tavares claims in her hoax to the effect that Agenda 21 is a plan to cause the extinction of mankind.

    The "Agenda 21" document suggested that we reduce the rate at which we deplete our natural resources to the same rate at which at which they can recover from being depleted (called "sustainable development"). If the United States Senate had ratified or approved Agenda 21, it would have PROTECTED MOST OF THE REMAINING FORESTS, exactly the opposite to what Deborah Tavares claims in her hoax (to the effect that the United Nations intentionally burned the forests of California in furtherance of Agenda 21 WHICH WAS ACTUALLY INTENDED TO PRESERVE THOSE VERY FORESTS FROM DESTRUCTION IN THE FIRST PLACE.) If the United States Senate had ratified or approved Agenda 21, it would have also REDUCED DROUGHT AND INSURED AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF FRESH WATER not contaminated by SEWAGE, exactly the opposite of what Deborah Tavares claims in her hoax to the effect that droughts and the shortage of fresh water not contaminated by sewage were "engineered" in furtherance of Agenda 21 WHICH WAS ACTUALLY INTENDED TO PREVENT THOSE VERY HARDSHIPS IN THE FIRST PLACE.)

    AGENDA 21 IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT IN THE UNITED STATES!
    Agenda 21 was only a SUGGESTION that member nations were permitted, BUT NOT REQUIRED TO ADOPT for themselves. While president Bush symbolically "signed" the Agenda 21 document, THE UNITED STATES SENATE REJECTED AGENDA 21, and under the United States Constitution, Senate approval is required for the United States to enter into a TREATY or to make federal law. (See the 2nd paragraph here. https://www.annenbergclassroom.org/article-ii-section-2 ). So, Agenda 21 IS NOT A TREATY , IS NOT THE LAW and CANNOT BE (AND IS NOT) ENFORCED anywhere in the United States. So, Agenda 21 is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT in the United States. The 5th paragraph here sums it up perfectly. https://www.splcenter.org/20140331/a...spiracy-theory . But, Deborah Tavares FRAUDULENTLY CONCEALS that CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FACT from her followers.

    WHAT AGENDA 21 IS ACTUALLY ABOUT:

    BELOW IS A SECTION OF THE ACTUAL "TABLE OF CONTENTS" OF "AGENDA 21" ON THE VERY FIRST PAGE OF "AGENDA 21".

    SECTION II. CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT OF RESOURCES FOR DEVELOPMENT
    9. Protection of the atmosphere 9.1 - 9.35
    10. Integrated approach to the planning and management of land resources 10.1 - 10.18
    11. COMBATING DEFORESTATION 11.1 - 11.40
    12. MANAGING FRAGILE ECOSYSTEMS: COMBATING desertification and DROUGHT 12.1 - 12.63
    13. Managing fragile ecosystems: sustainable mountain development 13.1 - 13.24
    14. Promoting sustainable agriculture and rural development 14.1 - 14.104
    15. CONSERVATION OF BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY15.1 - 15.11
    16. Environmentally sound MANAGEMENT OF BIODIVERSITY 16.1 - 16.46
    17. Protection of the oceans, all kinds of seas, including enclosed and semi-enclosed seas, and coastal areas and the protection, rational use and development of their living resources 17.1 - 17.136
    18.PROTECTION OF THE QUALITY AND SUPPLY OF FRESHWATER RESOURCES: application of integrated approaches to the development, MANAGEMENT and use OF WATER RESOURCES 18.1 - 18.90
    19. Environmentally sound management of toxic chemicals, including prevention of illegal international traffic in toxic and dangerous products 19.1 - 19.76
    20. Environmentally sound management of hazardous wastes, in hazardous wastes 20.1 - 20.46
    21. Environmentally sound MANAGEMENT OF solid wastes and SEWAGE-RELATED ISSUES 21.1 - 21.49
    22. Safe and environmentally sound management of radioactive wastes

    AND, ALL OF THIS IS ON THE VERY FIRST PAGE OF AGENDA 21 HERE.
    https://sustainabledevelopment.un.or...s/Agenda21.pdf

    BELOW IS THE ACTUAL TEXT OF AGENDA 21.

    https://sustainabledevelopment.un.or...s/Agenda21.pdf
    (THIS IS A MUST READ.). BEGIN AT SECTION 11.1 AT ABOUT 25% THROUGH THE TEXT. THE ACTUAL TEXT OF AGENDA 21 READS AS FOLLOWS:

    AGENDA 21 – CHAPTER 11

    COMBATING DEFORESTATION

    PROGRAMME AREAS

    A. Sustaining the multiple roles and functions of all types of FORESTS, FOREST LANDS and WOODLANDS.
    Basis for action

    11.1. There are major weaknesses in the policies, methods and mechanisms adopted to support and develop the multiple ecological, economic, social and cultural roles of TREES, FORESTS, and FOREST LANDS. Many developed countries are confronted with the effects of air pollution and FIRE DAMAGE ON THEIR FORESTS. More effective measures and approaches are often required at the national level to improve and harmonize policy formulation, planning and programming; legislative measures and instruments; development patterns; participation of the general public, especially women and indigenous people; involvement of youth; roles of the private sector, local organizations, non-governmental organizations and cooperatives; development of technical and multidisciplinary skills and quality of human resources; FORESTRY extension and public education; research capability and support; administrative structures and mechanisms, including intersectoral coordination, decentralization and responsibility and incentive systems; and dissemination of information and public relations. This is especially important to ensure a rational and holistic approach to the sustainable and environmentally sound development of FORESTS. The need for securing the multiple roles of FORESTS and FOREST LANDS through adequate and appropriate institutional strengthening has been repeatedly emphasized in many of the reports, decisions and recommendations of FAO, ITTO, UNEP, the World Bank, IUCN and other organizations.

    Objectives
    11.2. The objectives of this programme area are as follows:
    a. To STRENGTHEN FOREST-RELATED NATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, to enhance the scope and effectiveness
    of activities related to the management, CONSERVATION and sustainable development of FORESTS, and to effectively ensure the sustainable utilization and production of FORESTS' goods and services in both the developed and the developing countries; by the year 2000, to strengthen the capacities and capabilities of national institutions to enable them to acquire the necessary knowledge for the PROTECTION AND CONSERVATION OF FORESTS, as well as to expand their scope and, correspondingly, enhance the effectiveness of programmes and activities related to the management and development of FORESTS;
    b. To strengthen and improve human, technical and professional skills, as well as expertise and capabilities to effectively formulate and implement policies, plans, programmes, research and projects on management, CONSERVATION and sustainable development of all
    types of FORESTS and FOREST-based resources, and FOREST LANDS inclusive, as well as other areas from which FORESTS BENEFITS CAN BE DERIVED.

    AND, THIS IS ONLY THE FIRST TWO PARAGRAPHS OF SECTION 11 OF AGENDA 21!

    IMPORTANT:
    You will note from the actual WRITTEN words of Agenda 21 itself (above), THERE IS NO PROVISION FOR INCREMENTALLY REDUCING THE AREAS ALREADY OCCUPIED BY PEOPLE (to systematically drive them from their rural and suburban homes and into increasingly smaller, densely packed, over-populated "KILL CITIES" or "SMART CITIES" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind).


    THE "AGENDA 21 MAP"
    In addition to the Agenda 21 document itself (described above), Deborah Tavares also claims to have discovered a "SIMULATED" land use map which she fraudulently claims CONSTITUTES PROOF that Agenda 21 is a plan which uses diabolical means (like forest fires and laser beams from satellites in space) to drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into increasingly-smaller, densely-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" or "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind.

    To see this "SIMULATED" land use map, scroll down to about 40% through the text here.
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/parad...ather-warfare/

    OTHER VERSIONS OF THIS MAP:
    https://www.google.com/search?source...30.Fm6zNgdf57I

    IMPORTANT:
    Note that this "SIMULATED" land use map makes NO REFERENCE to "Agenda 21" whatsoever and that IT REFERS INSTEAD to the "Convention On Biological Diversity" (something different from Agenda 21). Importantly, this "SIMULATED" land use map ALSO REFERS TO "The Wildlands Project" (a mere suggestion from private environmentalists which IS NOT LAW and which HAS NOTHING to do with the United Nations), "UN and US Man And Biosphere Program", various "Heritage Programs" and "NAFTA" (which ALSO has NOTHING to do with the United Nations).

    PROOF THAT "AGENDA 21" AND THE "BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY TREATY" ARE DIFFERENT FROM ONE ANOTHER.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21 (proposed and rejected in 1992);
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conven...ical_Diversity (proposed and rejected in 1994);

    WHO CREATED THIS MAP?
    Dr. Michael S. Coffman was a prolific writer, speaker and property rights advocate. He often spoke at "liberty" conferences sponsored by the John Birch Society. He was an "environmental consultant" acting on behalf of large American land owning interests, land developers (like Deborah Tavares) and large logging & mining corporations which profit by destroying the environment. Coffman and his American clients opposed land use regulations in general and environmental regulations in particular. In 1994, when Congress was scheduled to vote on ratifying the proposed "Biological Diversity Treaty" (something different from Agenda 21), Coffman created the subject "SIMULATED" land use map to create opposition in the United States Senate to that particular proposed treaty (not to Agenda 21). https://www.metabunk.org/explained-a...paganda.t6855/. This is why Coffman's "SIMULATED" map only reflected only the alleged proposed land use in the United States (while omitting the alleged proposed land use for the entire rest of the world). Coffman was only trying to create opposition for the proposed "Biological Diversity Treaty" in the United States Senate (so that his United States' clients could continue destroying the environment with impunity). It worked. The United States Senate ALSO REJECTED that proposed treaty. Below is a verbatim transcript of the actual Senate debate on that proposed treaty which the Senate ALSO REJECTED. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/...-pt1-PgS22.htm.

    Coffman conceded that his "SIMULATED" land use map reflected what would be the resulting land use in the United States ONLY IF "ALL" OF THE PROPOSED LAND USE REGULATIONS listed at the top of his map became the law ("The Wildlands Project", "UN And US Man And Biosphere Program", various "Heritage Programs", etc.). But, Agenda 21 itself WAS NOT among those proposed land use regulations reflected by Coffman's map because THE UNITED STATES SENATE HAD ALREADY REJECTED AGENDA 21. So, Coffman claimed to have relied on OTHER proposed land use regulations in creating his "SIMULATED" land use map.

    Coffman's "SIMULATED" land use map was WILDLY EXAGERATED (for propaganda purposes) both visually and verbally (note the very first word on the map, "SIMULATED"). Coffman himself coined the phrase, "LITTLE OR NO HUMAN USE" (for propaganda purposes), a phrase which does not appear in any of his alleged source material. Note also that for propaganda purposes, Coffman gave EVERY tiny wildlife refuge on his map MULTIPLE, very wide, migration routes (up to 50 miles wide) to and from neighboring wildlife refuges (as if such were actually required under these OTHER land use proposals). This created the illusion that there would much less land available for human use if these OTHER land use proposals ever became law.

    COFFMAN INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED AND EXAGGERATED HIS LAND USE MAP (WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH AGENDA 21) TO CREATE THE APPEARANCE THAT IF ALL OF THESE OTHER PROPOSED LAND USE REGULATIONS WERE TO BECOME LAW, THEN, THERE WOULD BE LESS LAND AVAILABLE FOR HUMAN USE.

    FACT:
    IT WAS COFFMAN'S EXAGGERATED ("SIMULATED") LAND USE MAP (WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH AGENDA 21) THAT BECAME THE FOUNDATION FOR THE ORIGINAL CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT AGENDA 21 WILL FORCE US OUT OF OUR RURAL AND SUBURBAN HOMES AND INTO OVERPOULATED CITIES, EVEN THOUGH THAT EXAGGERATED ("SIMULATED") LAND USE MAP ACTUALLY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH AGENDA 21 IN THE FIRST PLACE!


    FACT:
    But, it was Deborah Tavares alone who came up with the new, improved and more sensational version of this hoax to the effect that Agenda 21 is a "plan" to use diabolical means (like forest fires and laser beams from satellites in space) to drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into increasingly-smaller, densely-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" and "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the extinction of mankind. Note that this new, improved and more sensation version of this hoax allowed Deborah Tavares to incorporate some of her other hoaxes (to the effect that PG&E used directed energy weapons on satellites in space to start the recent fires in California and that PG&E will use radiation from "smart meters" to kill us all in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind, etc.).

    FACT:
    Deborah Tavares has always known that Coffman's "SIMULATED" land use map was both WILDLY EXAGGERATED and that IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH AGENDA 21 IN THE FIRST PLACE, much less with the United Nations using forest fires and laser beams from satellites in space to drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into increasingly smaller, densely-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" and "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, Deborah Tavares nevertheless decided to lie about it anyway in order to incite fear, hatred and violence against innocent Americans.

    CONCLUSION:
    The United States Senate REJECTED Agenda 21. So, Agenda 21 IS NOT A TREATY, IS NOT THE LAW, IS NOT ENFORCED AND IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT in the United States. Coffman's WILDLY EXAGGERATED ("SIMULATED") land use map had NOTHING to do with Agenda 21 in the first place. Coffman's WILDLY EXAGGERATED ("SIMULATED") land use map was based on ALL of the proposed land use regulations at the time EXCEPT FOR AGENDA 21 ("The Wildlands Project", "UN And US Man And Biosphere Program", various "Heritage Programs", etc.). Coffman created his WILDLY EXAGGERATED "SIMULATED") land use map as propaganda to generate opposition to the "Biological Diversity Treaty" (something different from Agenda 21) WHICH THE UNITED STATES SENATE ALSO REJECTED.

    APPLICATION TO HOAX:
    THE RECENT CALIFORNIA FIRES DID NOT ADVANCE THE PURPOSE OF AGENDA 21 (TO PREVENT FURTHER DEFORESTATION). INDEED, THE RECENT FIRES IN CALIFORNIA ACTUALLY UNDERMINED THE PURPOSE OF AGENDA 21 (BY DESTROYING THE VERY FORESTS THAT AGENDA 21 WAS INTENDED TO PROTECT)!

    THEREFORE, THE RECENT CALIFORNIA FIRES WERE NOT "AGENDA 21 FIRES", EVEN IF THEY WERE THE RESULT OF SOME OTHER CONSPIRACY, unrelated to Agenda 21.

    So, whether or not there is a "planned extinction of mankind", this document provides no support for that proposition.

    APPLICATION OF CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS:
    If I were a charlatan, and if I wanted to create a BETTER version of the Agenda 21 Hoax, this is how I would do it.

    1. I would create videos and I would show the REAL, ACTUAL "AGENDA 21" DOCUMENT (unmodified) showing the Agenda 21 "agenda" AS IT IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN in the official document (showing that its purpose is to PROTECT THE REMAINING FORESTS, PREVENT DROUGHT AND ENSURE AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF FRESH WATER UNCONTAMINATED BY SEWAGE (all of which is verifiably true).

    2. Then, in my videos, I would show written proof that THE UNITED STATES SENATE REJECTED AGENDA 21 AND THAT IT IS NOT A TREATY, IS NOT THE LAW, AND IS NOT ENFORCED ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES (all of which is also verifiably true).

    3. Then, in my videos, I would show ALL OF THE ENVIROMENTAL CATASTROPHES SUFFERED BY CALIFORNIANS SINCE 1992, when Agenda 21 was first proposed AND REJECTED BY THE UNITED STATES SENATE (DESTRUCTION OF THE REMAINING FORESTS, INCREASED DROUGHT, ABSENCE OF FRESH WATER UNCONTAMINATED BY SEWAGE, PEOPLE RENDERED HOMELESS AND DISPLACED BY FOREST FIRES, ETC.).

    4. Then, in my videos, I would claim that "THE REFUSAL" (ITSELF) of U.S. Government to adopt "Agenda 21" in I992 constitutes conclusive "PROOF" that the U.S. Government ACTUALLY SOUGHT TO PURPOSELY DESTROY ALL THE REMAINING FORESTS IN CALIFORNIA, PURPOSELY INCREASE DROUGHTS IN CALIFORNIA AND PURPOSELY DESTROY ALL SUPPLIES OF FRESH WATER IN CALIFORNIA NOT CONTAMINATED BY SEWAGE in order o purposely drive Californians out of their rural and suburban homes and into cities far away from the forests and wilderness areas.

    That would make a much BETTER "Agenda 21 Hoax", BECAUSE (except for the nefarious intentions of the U.S. Government part) IT IS ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY, VERIFIABLY AND FACTUALLY TRUE IN EVERY SINGLE RESPECT! That would make for a MUCH MORE LOGICAL EXPLANATION for the ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHIES SUFFERED BY CALIFORNIANS since 1992 than the story that Deborah Tavares peddles now (WHICH ACTUALLY CONTRADICTS THE REAL PURPOSE OF AGENDA 21 TO PROTECT THOSE VERY FORESTS FROM DESTRUCTION IN THE FIRST PLACE).

    MORE APPLICATION OF CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS:
    FACT: When corporate interests are threatened by proposed laws which would reduce their profits, they launch a public relations campaign against those proposed laws. But, they do not admit that they actually oppose the proposed laws for reasons of their own selfish interests. Instead, they pretend that they oppose the proposed laws to protect the interests of society in general (out of the goodness of their own hearts).

    EXAMPLE: CONSIDER THIS HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE AS IT RELATES TO AGENDA 21. (NOTE: THIS MAY NOT HAVE EVER OCCURRED. IT IS ONLY AN EXAMPLE TO ILLUSTRATE THIS PRINCIPLE.).

    If made into law, Agenda 21 (a proposed law) would slow the rate at which logging & mining corporations and land developers, like Deborah Tavares, could destroy the remaining forests (and thereby slow the rate at which they generate profits).

    So, these corporate interests launch a public relations campaign against Agenda 21. But, they do not admit that they actually oppose Agenda 21 to protect their own profits. Instead, they pretend to oppose Agenda 21 to protect the rest of society (out of the goodness of their own hearts).

    So, they come up with a CAREFULLY-CRAFTED LIE intended to get the rest of society to oppose Agenda 21 as much as they do. Instead of admitting that Agenda 21 would only slow down the rate at which logging & mining corporations and land developers, like Deborah Tavares, could destroy the remaining forests to generate profits, they falsely claim that Agenda 21 WOULD ACTUALLY WORK IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION!

    Specifically, they falsely claim that Agenda 21 WOULD ACTUALLY EXPAND THE FORESTS AND WILDERNESS INTO AREAS THAT WERE ALREADY DEVELOPED AND ALREADY OCCUPIED BY HUMANS, thereby systematically driving homeowners out of their rural and suburban homes and into increasingly-smaller, tightly packed, over-populated cities (something that the REAL Agenda 21 would not actually do).

    This FRAUDULENT characterization of Agenda 21 would serve to make ALL THE REST OF SOCIETY join with those who profit by destroying the forests. The rest of society would OPPOSE "AGENDA 21" in the mistaken belief THAT THEY WERE SAVING THEIR OWN HOMES IN THE PROCESS. Now, THAT is a brilliant lie. But, it gets even better.

    By telling such a lie, logging & mining corporations and real estate developers, like Deborah Tavares, could continue DESTROYING THE FORESTS and continue to cash in without any opposition from the rest of society WHILE SIMULATANEOUSLY BLAMING "AGENDA 21" (WHICH NEVER BECAME LAW IN THE FIRST PLACE) FOR THE HARDSHIPS THAT THEY THEMSELVES KNOWINGLY INFLICT ON THE REST OF SOCIETY BY DESTROYING THE REMAINING FORESTS IN THE PURSUIT OF PROFITS (increased droughts and therefore increased forest fires, decreased fresh water supplies uncontaminated by sewage, etc.). Now, THAT is a TRULY brilliant lie, blaming a SUGGESTION that never became law, for the hardships suffered by Californians, when the SUGGESTION that never became law WAS ACTUALLY DESIGNED AND INTENDED TO PREVENT THOSE VERY HARDSHIPS FROM OCCURRING IN THE FIRST PLACE!

    Remember, the foregoing is only an ILLUSTRATION of how corporate interests engage in disinformation campaigns in order to get society to oppose proposed laws that would reduce their profits. I do not know if Deborah Tavares lied to us about Agenda 21 for similar reasons. Ultimately, the reasons she lied to us about Agenda 21 is irrelevant. All that matters is that she lied to us.

    Thus, Deborah Tavares has AGAIN lied to us about what the what her documents say in the in the same way that she lied to us about every other document she has ever used in support of her claims about the planned extinction of mankind.

    VIDEO:
    FOR VIRGO TRIAD'S VIDEO ON THIS VERY HOAX, CLICK HERE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWjy...&index=12&t=0s

    OTHER CHARLATANS:

    For the hoaxes of ROD CLASS, click here.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99447-Rod-Class-his-many-hoaxes&p=1174970#post1174970

    For the hoaxes of CARL MILLER, click here.
    https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...161#post229161

    For the hoaxes of EDDIE CRAIG, click here.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...y-sheriff-hoax

    For the hoaxes of DEBRA JONES, click here.
    https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...352#post230352;
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...bra-Jones-Hoax.


    ABOUT SNOOP4TRUTH:
    Snoop4truth is a legal expert and whistle blower who exposes online hoaxes. Snoop4truth did not reveal this information to harm Deborah Tavares. Instead, Snoop4truth revealed this information solely to reduce the CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE that such intentional fraud inflicts upon the American people every single day. Had it not been for Deborah Tavares' role in the "Judge DALE Hoax", Snoop4truth would not have revealed this information here.

    The message to all charlatans and hoaxers? Just tell the truth. The truth does not fear investigation. Only lies fear investigation. The truth can be supported by using the truth. Only lies must be supported by using hoaxes (other lies). There is no such thing as a "good reason" to intentionally defraud the American people, not even to make a popular (and sensational) conspiracy theory appear to be true.
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    Re: The hoaxes of deborah tavares (conspiracy, weaponized weather, fires, depopulation)

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    DEBORAH TAVARES & THE FORGED PG&E EMAIL HOAX (THE CALIFORNIA FIRES HOAX).


    For all other Deborah Tavares hoaxes (NASA, Silent Weapons, Iron Mountain, Agenda 21, California Fires, Genocide), click here. https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...s-depopulation)

    THE HOAX: In the PG&E FAKE Email Hoax, Deborah Tavares claims to have obtained emails which effectively prove that PG&E caused the recent fires in California by beaming directed energy beams from satellites in space at California. But, her claims about these emails are lies. They are FORGERIES.

    VIDEOS OF DEBORAH TAVARES ENGAGED IN THE HOAX
    (Note: Jeff Rense is not involved in the hoax)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHJJFZKADuk (at 11:10-20:00)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltdARR9nLLs (at 24:30-27:15)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eserzsHQ52o (at 9:25 - 19:10)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKf7...fDqAI6_zkRihzD (at 21:40- 24:35)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P-2vg6Vk94 (at 6:00-6:40, 1:07:15 - 1:09:30)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3fb--FC_oQ (at 1:05-3:40)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7As3d9NgDyk (at 27:20-30:10)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WQfXQWHRAw (at 9:25-9:55)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMVJpcqUNUk (at 6:05-13:55).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xE9gJ5kkh4 (at 7:15 - 7:35)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3unQnNf-BlU (at 6:15-9:35)

    THE FACTS:
    Pacific Gas & Electric ("PG&E") is a California electrical utility company. Over the next few years, PG&E is required by law to generate an increasingly higher and higher percentage of its electrical power without producing any carbon emissions. So, PG&E has increasingly resorted to wind, solar and thermal technology to generate electrical power so as to comply with law.

    But, PG&E's conventional, ground-based, solar panels can only collect energy from the Sun during the middle of daylight hours in good weather. So, in 2009, PG&E announced that in the future, solar panels on satellites in space might be used to generate energy from the Sun 24 hours a day. These satellites might then beam the power to Earth in the form of laser beams or radio frequency beams. The power might then be received by rectennas at receptor stations on Earth and then converted to electricity for use by its customers.

    WHAT PG&E ANNOUNCED IN 2009:
    www.pge.com/en_US/small-medium-business/business-resource-center/energy-management-articles/energy-management-articles/past-articles/energy-from-outerspace.page?WT.mc_id=SMBNewsletter_email_20160811_phase_link-energy

    Solaren is a private California company which has patented the technology described above. In 2009, PG&E entered into a contract with Solaren to buy finished electricity from Solaren if Solaren is ever successful in generating electrical power using this technology. Under the contract, Solaren would own, operate and control all its satellites, rectennas and all the receiver stations. Originally, Solaren promised to provide PG&E with finished electricity by 2016. But, it ran into financial problems and still has not provided any electricity to PG&E, even at this late date. The California Public Utilities Commission ("CPUC") approved the contract on the condition that no money from PG&E customers ever be used to develop this technology.

    THE CONTRACT:
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/30198977/n.../#.XJUcxVKFPIU
    (at paragraphs 1-5)

    https://www.afcea.org/content/space-...closer-reality
    (at paragraphs 8, 9 & 10)

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-light-of-day/
    (at the final two paragraphs)

    https://www.businessinsider.com/spac...r-earth-2014-7
    (at the final two paragraphs)

    Deborah Tavares lives in Sebastopol and has waged war against PG&E because of its "smart meters". So, when the recent forest fires burned northern California, Deborah Tavares wanted to blame PG&E and the technology described above for starting those fires. But, there was a problem. The scientific and economic literature indicated that this technology did not yet exist to blame.

    CURRENT SCIENTIFIC & ECONOMIC LITERATURE ON THIS TECHNOLOGY:
    (Note that the subject fires began occurring in October of 2017)

    This technology will not be in use until the end of the decade. See last 3 paragraphs & final sentence here.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/spac...r-earth-2014-7

    This technology did not exist in 2017. Beginning at the bottom of page 16 here.
    https://space.nss.org/media/NSS-JOUR...olar-Power.pdf

    This technology is not in use in 2019. See the last paragraph.
    https://www.electricityforum.com/new...ospaceforpower

    This technology did not exist in 2018. See the FIRST and LAST paragraph here.
    https://earthsky.org/earth/space-bas...ser-to-reality

    This technology will not be in use until at least 2019. See page 62
    http://fiso.spiritastro.net/telecon/...e_12-14-16.pdf

    This technology did not exist in 2018. See the final paragraph.
    http://www.alternative-energy-news.i...ls-into-orbit/

    SO, TO REBUT ALL THOSE FACTS, Deborah Tavares FORGED a series of FAKE emails (some purportedly between the CPUC and PG&E) indicating that this beam technology already existed, that it was already in use and that it could be used to kill us all.

    THE FORGERIES:

    1. PUBLISHED EMAIL FORGERIES:
    http://stopthecrime.net/wp/2018/08/2...rn-california/

    Afterwards, Deborah Tavares created more FORGED emails reflecting imaginary responses from imaginary experts to which Deborah Tavares allegedly forwarded her FORGED emails above. Not surprisingly, these imaginary experts agreed with Deborah Tavares that this beam technology already existed, that it has long been in use and that it could be used to kill us all.

    2. FORGERIES THAT DEBORAH TAVARES FRAUDULENTLY ATTRIBUTES TO IMAGINARY EXPERTS TO WHOM SHE ALLEGED SENT THE FORGERIES ABOVE. AT ABOUT 20-30% THROUGH THE TEXT HERE: http://smartmetersmurder.com/ (Look for the terms, "comment ONE" and "comment TWO", etc.).

    3. THE FINAL TWO UNPUBLISHED, BUT PUBLICLY QUOTED, FORGERIES
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHJJFZKADuk (at 17:25-18:40)

    Thus, Deborah Tavares herself actually created ALL OF THE FORGERIES which she fraudulently claims CONSTITUTE "PROOF" that PG&E used this future energy beam technology to start the recent fires in California to kill us all in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind.

    THE REASONS WHY WE KNOW THESE PUBLISHED EMAILS ARE FORGERIES:

    THE APPEARANCE OF THE FORGERIES
    1. Each one of Deborah Tavares' FAKE emails between PG&E and CPUC contains text which consists of TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT LETTER FONTS, TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT LETTER SIZES, ONE OF WHICH IS IN BOLD TYPE, THE OTHER WHICH IS NOT. That means Deborah Tavares assembled each of these FAKE emails between PG&E and CPUC from two entirely different documents. Specifically, Deborah Tavares took the heading of REAL emails between PG&E and CPUC and replaced the REAL email message of those emails with a FAKE email message that she FORGED herself! Otherwise the letter font type, letter sizes and boldness of the text would be the same throughout the entire email. SEE PROOF HERE! http://stopthecrime.net/wp/2018/08/2...rn-california/

    THE CONTENT OF THE FORGERIES:
    1. The subject of the of the REAL emails between PG&E and CPUC which Deborah Tavares ALTERED to fit the hoax (above) was "space weather". But, Deborah Tavares did not know what "space weather" actually was (something a REAL PG&E executive would know).

    "Solar flares" on the surface of the Sun erupt about every 11 years or so. These solar flares extend millions of miles into space and emit extremely high amounts of radiation into space. This radiation is called "space weather" (like a "rain" or "storm" OF RADIATION in space). (It is the Earth's atmosphere which protects all life on Earth from this radiation.). The radiation emitted during such "space weather" is so powerful that it can damage or destroy electrical power transformers here on Earth if they are linked to earth-based solar panels. Such damage can result in power outages. That is why "space weather" would be of concern to PG&E. During "damaging space weather", PG&E has to protect its transformers linked to earth-based solar panels because some such transformers provide electrical power to nuclear power plants and to hospitals which cannot afford power outages for obvious reasons.

    DEBORAH TAVARES' MISTAKE:

    But, Deborah Tavares did not know any of this. She mistakenly believed that "space weather" was WEATHER HERE ON EARTH (like drought and fire) that was artificially created and controlled by lasers, radio frequencies or microwaves beamed at the Earth from satellites IN SPACE (a stupid mistake that a REAL PG&E executive WOULD NOT MAKE). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHIq...cVanWVBoL32K3k (at 1:00-1:25)

    HOW THIS MISTAKE SHOWS UP IN THE FORGERIES:

    In FORGING the phrase "...then have its lawyers BLAME ITS CUSTOMERS, AKA EARTHLINGS, FOR ANY ADVERSE CONSEQUENSES RESULTING [FROM DAMAGING SPACE WEATHER]" in the 9:50 email above, Deborah Tavares was referring to the adverse consequences of FIRES WHICH PG&E CAN BLAME ON ITS CUSTOMERS (not realizing that "damaging space weather" is actually radiation in outer space caused by solar flares on the surface of the Sun every 11 years). Unknown to Deborah Tavares, the consequences resulting from "damaging space weather" is actually power outages, NOT FIRES! AND, PG&E CANNOT POSSIBLY BLAME ITS CUSTOMERS FOR ITS OWN POWER OUTAGES CAUSED BY RADIATION FROM SOLAR FLARES ON THE SURFACE OF THE SUN EVERY 11 YEARS. So, in creating this FORGERY, Deborah Tavares did not know that PG&E customers can NEVER be "blamed" for the "consequences" of "damaging space weather", WHICH IS ONLY POWER OUTAGES (something a REAL PG&E executive would know). This stupid mistake proves that this email is a FORGERY.

    2. Likewise, Deborah Tavares did not know the terms of PG&E's contract with Solaren (something a REAL PG&E executive would know). So, Deborah Tavares did not know that PG&E would never own, operate, manage or control any of Solaren's satellites, rectennas, receiving stations or have any say in how, when or where energy from Solaren's satellites in space would be directed. Instead, Solaren would be solely responsible for all of that. Under the contract, the only thing PG&E would ever do would be to buy finished electricity from Solaren if Solaren was ever successful in generating electricity using this technology. Under the contract, PG&E is simply a potential future customer of Solaren. Nothing more. But, Deborah Tavares did not know any of this.

    HOW THIS MISTAKE SHOWS UP IN THE FORGERIES:

    So, in FORGING the sentence, "WE [referring to PG&E] have changed OUR receptor site from the Mojave desert (sic) to Sebastopol" in the 10:03 email above, Deborah Tavares sought to create the illusion that she was so important to PG&E that it actually "targeted" her in Sebastopol with radio frequency waves beamed from satellites in space in retaliation for her opposition to PG&E "smart meters". See PROOF here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHJJFZKADuk (at 18:40-19:20). Are you kidding me?! What a narcissist!

    Regardless, Deborah Tavares did not know that PG&E will never have any ability to aim Solaren's energy beams or to move Solaren's receptor stations from one place to another (something a REAL PG&E executive would know). This stupid mistake proves that this email is a FORGERY.

    Further, Deborah Tavares did not know that Solaren's actual rectennas or receptor site is in Fresno, California, hundreds of miles away from the Mojave Desert (something a REAL PG&E executive would know).

    PROOF THAT FRESNO (NOT SEBASTOPOL) IS THE REAL RECEPTOR SITE:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/30198977/n...XIlKNlKFPIU(at
    the 3rd paragraph)

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-light-of-day/
    (at end of 2nd paragraph)

    https://www.electricityforum.com/new...ospaceforpower
    (at the 16th paragraph)

    Moreover, Deborah Tavares did not know that such receiver rectennas at such receiver stations are up to six miles in diameter (which would make it obvious to every person living in Sebastopol if it had actually had been relocated there as Deborah Tavares fraudulently claims).

    Finally, a REAL PG&E executive would not refer to Solaren's receptor site as "OUR" receptor site, would know that Solaren's receptor station was in Fresno (not in the Mojave Desert) and would know that PG&E had no power or ability to change Solaren's receptor site. The foregoing stupid mistakes prove that this email is a forgery.

    3. Use your own common sense. As to the 10:03 email above, how likely is it that a PG&E executive would open an email to the CPUC with a "reminder" of the ACTUAL INTERNAL MECHANICS of exactly how Solaren's technology worked? The CPUC had just approved of PG&E's use of Solaren's technology provided that PG&E never invested any of its customer's money to finance the project. The CPUC did not need a "reminder" of the ACTUAL INTERNAL MECHANICS of Solaren's technology in which PG&E played no part and could claim no credit. This "reminder" serves NO PURPOSE except to defraud and to set up the sentence that follows.

    4. Use your own common sense. How likely is it that the CPUC would refer to PG&E's customers as "EARTHLINGS" in connection with an email about a "COVER UP" of "damaging space weather" which can cause nothing but power outages? How is it even possible for PG&E to cover up a power outage? This stupid mistake proves that this email is a forgery.

    5. Use your own common sense. How likely is it that the CPUC would tell PG&E to have its lawyers BLAME ITS CUSTOMERS "AKA EARTHLINGS" FOR THE CONSEQUENCES OF "DAMAGING SPACE WEATHER", WHICH IS ONLY POWER OUTAGES CAUSED BY RADIATION FROM SOLAR FLARES WHICH CANNOT POSSIBLY BE BLAMED ON PG&E CUSTOMERS? How is it even possible to "cover up" a power outage affecting hundreds of thousands if not millions of customers? This stupid mistake proves that this email is a FORGERY.

    THE REASONS WHY WE KNOW THE EMAILS FROM THE IMAGINARY "EXPERTS" ARE FORGERIES:

    1. The sentence, "You as a California resident have every right to know what your 'public utilities' are doing with their (sic) 'RATE DOLLARS'", was not written by an expert, as Deborah Tavares fraudulently claims. Unknown to Deborah Tavares, no "rate dollars" from any PG&E customer has or will ever be used to finance the research and development of Solaren's technology (which will be financed, owned and operated solely by Solaren). Under the contract, PG&E would merely be a potential future customer of Solaren and buy finished electricity from Solaren if Solaren is ever successful in generating electricity using this technology. Again, no PG&E customer money will ever be used to develop Solaren's technology. But, Deborah Tavares did not know this when writing this FORGERY. That stupid mistake proves that this email is a FORGERY.

    2. The term, "EARTH, INC." in "comment ONE:" is a "signature" term ACTUALLY CREATED, COINED and REPEATEDLY USED BY Deborah Tavares. FOR PROOF, GO TO 22:00-23:05 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D78hBBAH7hk and go to
    36:05 - 36:15 HERE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltdARR9nLLs and go to 2:40-3:00 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASSZZE75kX0

    https://www.google.com/search?ei=4uy...60.uVtaFybaRXU.

    FACT: Note that the term, "EARTH, INC." (above) is a mere logical extension of "USA, INC" another "signature" term ACTUALLY CREATED, COINED and REPEATEDLY USED BY Deborah Tavares.
    FOR PROOF, GO TO 38:05-38:25 HERE.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrrAs5VccwA
    https://www.google.com/search?source...60.JgZsHQcXzd4

    3. The phrase, "very disturbing" in "comment TWO:" is a "signature" Deborah Tavares phrase.
    FOR PROOF, GO TO 46:50 - 47:05 HERE.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltdARR9nLLs
    and go to 35:45-35-55 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_n3v3CxQH8 and go to the FIRST WRITTEN SENTENCE ON THE SCREEN AT 46:25-46:35)

    https://www.google.com/search?ei=BO2...71.i3pL90_8tdA

    4. The term, "FOIA", in "comment TWO:" is a "signature" Deborah Tavares term.
    https://www.google.com/search?ei=eO2...99.ntDizkRvUdQ

    5. The term, "iceberg", in "comment TWO:" is a "signature" Deborah Tavares term.
    https://www.google.com/search?ei=0O2...99.RDgj6KM5rHk

    6. The term, "footprints", in "comment TWO:" is a "signature" Deborah Tavares term.
    https://www.google.com/search?ei=Du6...99.UcKcf4ptzag

    7. The term, "assessment", in "comment TWO:" is a "signature" Deborah Tavares term.
    https://www.google.com/search?ei=Se6...99.qaTj4TY5zhg

    8. BOTH "comment ONE:" and "comment TWO:" contain hyphenated terms (" - "), a writing custom rare in today's world, suggesting that BOTH comment ONE and comment TWO were written by the same person, which of course, they were.

    PG&E may actually be using laser or radio frequencies beamed from satellites in space to kill us all in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, THESE PARTICULAR FORGED EMAILS THEMSELVES (upon which Deborah Tavares HERSELF says she bases this particular claim) provide no support for that proposition, because they are FORGERIES!

    ACTUAL CAUSE OF FIRES IN SOURTHERN CALIFORNIA
    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...acy-aficionado
    https://newrepublic.com/minutes/1506...iracy-theorist
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/calif...b0ae32af97e953
    https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...810-story.html

    ACTUAL CAUSE OF FIRES ELSEWHERE IN THE STATE

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2...n-suspect-arrested-in-santa-rosa-trail-fires/
    https://www.chicoer.com/2018/09/27/2...ifornia-fires/
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1BA0VL
    https://www.kion546.com/news/2-arres...ires/799909817
    http://www.capradio.org/articles/201...lamathon-fire/
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/arson-sus...-officials-say
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/the-lates...ornia-wildfire
    https://www.redding.com/story/news/2...es/1780261002/
    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/17/cal-...on-arrest.html
    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...lifornia-fires
    https://www.sbsun.com/2017/08/24/man...o-is-arrested/
    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...439032663.html
    https://wtop.com/national/2018/07/th...near-yosemite/
    https://www.ksbw.com/article/battlin...eason/22677894
    https://people.com/crime/calif-man-s...ting-wildfire/
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-arr...ry?id=56830037
    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...490374161.html
    https://wildfiretoday.com/2019/02/18...-clayton-fire/
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/26/u...on-arrest.html

    OTHER FACTORS
    https://www.vox.com/energy-and-envir...co-los-angeles
    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/e...n-human-cause/
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...r-12294852.php
    https://www.vox.com/2018/7/20/175828...guson-colorado

    FACT: Not a single arsonist above used a smart meter or directed energy beam from a satellite in space to start his/her fire.

    YOUTUBE VIDEO BY VIRGOTRIAD ON THIS VERY HOAX.https://www.youtube.com/watch?
    v=TOj5RQKsucw

    For the hoaxes of ROD CLASS, click here.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99447-Rod-Class-his-many-hoaxes&p=1174970#post1174970

    For the hoaxes of CARL MILLER, click here.
    https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...161#post229161

    For the hoaxes of EDDIE CRAIG, click here.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...y-sheriff-hoax

    For the hoaxes of DEBRA JONES, click here.
    https://www.waccobb.net/forums/showt...352#post230352;
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...bra-Jones-Hoax.


    ABOUT SNOOP4TRUTH:
    Snoop4truth is a legal expert and whistle blower who exposes online hoaxes. Snoop4truth did not reveal this information to harm Deborah Tavares. Instead, Snoop4truth revealed this information solely to reduce the CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE that such intentional fraud inflicts upon the American people every single day. Had it not been for Deborah Tavares' role in the "Judge DALE Hoax", Snoop4truth would not have revealed this information here.

    The message to all charlatans and hoaxers? Just tell the truth. The truth does not fear investigation. Only lies fear investigation. The truth can be supported by using the truth. Only lies must be supported by using hoaxes (other lies). There is no such thing as a "good reason" to intentionally defraud the American people, not even to make a popular (and sensational) conspiracy theory appear to be true.
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    A recent guest has posted an exhaustive description of alleged hoaxes that have been put forth by Deborah Taveres. They are too long to be included in our digest, but I wanted to give you a heads up that they are here, as earlier posts in this thread.

    Some of those "hoaxes" have been put forth on this website so it seems fair that their debunking is also here.

    Your comments are most welcome.
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    "snoop4truth" could you please
    come out from behind your mask,
    to reveal to us, the public,
    your "truthful" identity?





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    "snoop4truth" could you please
    come out from behind your mask,
    to reveal to us, the public,
    your "truthful" identity?

    Mayacaman,

    No. Some of Deborah Tavares' partners in her hoaxes have publicly called for my death. These partners of Deborah Tavares are multi-convicted, weapons-related felons. They actually have criminal convictions for carrying (in the front seat of their cars) illegally sawed-off shot guns, night sticks outfitted with concealed razor blades, machetes, daggers, illegal switch blades, hand guns, rifles, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, etc. If more be necessary, these partners of Deborah Tavares are mentally ill and have been involuntarily incarcerated in mental institutions on more than one occasion.

    Suffice it to say, I have a very good reason to keep my identity to myself (and it has nothing to do with whether I stand behind my facts. I do.).

    But, let's not get confused here. My identity is not important anyway. My identity will not convert the truth into a lie. The truth will still be the truth. The truth is what is important. Nothing else matters.

    Likewise, my motive for revealing the truth is not important either. My motive will not convert the truth into a lie. The truth will still be the truth. The truth is what is important. Nothing else matters.

    So, let's focus like a laser beam on the truth.

    I have posted my proof of the truth (above) for your review. You do not need to believe me. Just review the proof that I have posted (above and below). That proof will lead you to the truth.

    Now, if you would like to challenge the truthfulness of the facts that I have revealed above (the only thing that actually matters), then simply say so.

    I am always happy to help.

    But, let's remain focused on the truth (the only thing that actually matters).

    All The Best,

    Snoop
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    Re: The hoaxes of deborah tavares (conspiracy, weaponized weather, fires, depopulation)

    Snoop4truth wrote:
    "Some of Deborah Tavares' partners in her hoaxes have publicly called for my death. These partners of Deborah Tavares are multi-convicted, weapons-related, violent felons. They actually have criminal convictions for carrying (in the front seat of their cars) illegally sawed-off shot guns, night sticks outfitted with concealed razor blades, machetes, daggers, illegal switch blades, hand guns, rifles, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, etc. If more be necessary, these partners of Deborah Tavares are mentally ill and have been involuntarily incarcerated in mental institutions on more than one occasion..."
    Well, Who knows? Unless you can supply proof of these further allegations, how can any of us know that any part of what you say is true? I am not a partisan of Deborah Tavares, but I have met her, and I can say - honestly and fairly - that she and her husband are not the duplicitous, conniving, willfully deceitful developers and exploiters of the environment that you depict them to be.

    Lou Tavares was a building contractor down in northern Santa Barbara County. He worked hard, and did well. They have a few income properties in that neck of the woods. But - as far as I know - she & her husband are not out to loot the North Coast. They are a retired couple living on the income that derives from their rental properties.

    What bothers me about your modus opperandi, Mr."snoop4truth" is that it has all the earmarks of a hit piece. -- And I've seen plenty of them, over the years. Yes, it has a smell about it that you are a paid operative whose job it is to discredit Deborah Tavares.

    Let me reiterate, in closing, that I am not a partisan of Deborah Tavares. She is a person who has come into her activism lately, and attends conspiracy conventions where all manner of data is spread on the table - some of it true / some of it no doubt, false.

    I don't frequent such venues myself, but I find myself in agreement with some of the 'theories' posited by some of those folks. For instance, the notion that the power elite are out to depopulate the planet and that they speak of the masses as "useless eaters."

    This is not a 'conspiracy theory.' It is happening. They're doing it.

    I suggest that the reason that you prefer not to come out from behind your mask has more to do with your fear - and, perhaps, also the apprehension of your employers - to be hit with a lawsuit by Deborah Tavares, for Libel, than it has to do with any legitimate fear of being waylaid by her "partners" armed with "sawed-off shot guns, night sticks outfitted with concealed razor blades, machetes, daggers, illegal switch blades, hand guns, rifles, etc.."

    Most sincerely, and without partisanship,
    objectively, and reasonably,

    Mark Walter Evans

    ( my real name)

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    Well, Who knows? Unless you can supply proof of these further allegations, how can any of us know that any part of what you say is true? I am not a partisan of Deborah Tavares, but I have met her, and I can say - honestly and fairly - that she and her husband are not the duplicitous, conniving, willfully deceitful developers and exploiters of the environment that you depict them to be.

    Lou Tavares was a building contractor down in northern Santa Barbara County. He worked hard, and did well. They have a few income properties in that neck of the woods. But - as far as I know - she & her husband are not out to loot the North Coast. They are a retired couple living on the income that derives from their rental properties.

    What bothers me about your modus opperandi, Mr."snoop4truth" is that it has all the earmarks of a hit piece. -- And I've seen plenty of them, over the years. Yes, it has a smell about it that you are a paid operative whose job it is to discredit Deborah Tavares.

    Let me reiterate, in closing, that I am not a partisan of Deborah Tavares. She is a person who has come into her activism lately, and attends conspiracy conventions where all manner of data is spread on the table - some of it true / some of it no doubt, false.

    I don't frequent such venues myself, but I find myself in agreement with some of the 'theories' posited by some of those folks. For instance, the notion that the power elite are out to depopulate the planet and that they speak of the masses as "useless eaters."

    This is not a 'conspiracy theory.' It is happening. They're doing it.

    I suggest that the reason that you prefer not to come out from behind your mask has more to do with your fear - and, perhaps, also the apprehension of your employers - to be hit with a lawsuit by Deborah Tavares, for Libel, than it has to do with any legitimate fear of being waylaid by her "partners" armed with "
    sawed-off shot guns, night sticks outfitted with concealed razor blades, machetes, daggers, illegal switch blades, hand guns, rifles, etc.."

    Most sincerely, and without partisanship,
    objectively, and reasonably,

    Mark Walter Evans

    ( my real name)


    Hello Mayacaman,

    Thank you for your timely reply.

    My responses are below.

    YOUR COMMENT: Well, Who knows? Unless you can supply proof of these further allegations, how can any of us know that any part of what you say is true?

    MY RESPONSE: You will know that every part of what I say is true when you will simply click on the links for the proof that I have provided you above. It is that simple.

    YOUR COMMENT: I am not a partisan of Deborah Tavares,

    MY RESPONSE: Yes, you are. Please do not pretend otherwise. You aren't fooling anyone.

    YOUR COMMENT: but I have met her, and I can say - honestly and fairly - that she and her husband are not the duplicitous, conniving, willfully deceitful developers and exploiters of the environment that you depict them to be.

    MY RESPONSE: I did not intend to characterize Deborah Tavares as a duplicitous, conniving, willfully deceitful developer and exploiter of the environment.

    Instead, I actually intended to convey that Deborah Tavares has FORGED documents to support her claims, ALTERED documents to support her claims, MISCHARACTERIZED documents to support her claims and PASSED OFF documents of known POLITICAL FICTION as "REAL" governmental or organizational documents to support her claims.

    I actually intended to convey that Deborah Tavares uses INTENTIONAL FRAUD to incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. I intended to convey that the INTENTIONAL FRAUD of Deborah Tavares is going to get innocent Americans killed. And those, like yourself, who support, enable and provide "cover" for Deborah Tavares will actually be complicit in that result. And, when that happens, Deborah Tavares will go from the perceived messiah and savior of her followers to the anti-Christ overnight.

    YOUR COMMENT: Lou Tavares was a building contractor down in northern Santa Barbara County. He worked hard, and did well. They have a few income properties in that neck of the woods. But - as far as I know - she & her husband are not out to loot the North Coast. They are a retired couple living on the income that derives from their rental properties.

    MY RESPONSE: I note that in painting your flattering portrait of Lou and Deborah Tavares above, you carefully avoid any reference to the accuracy (the truthfulness) of the claims of Deborah Tavares which have made her an international celebrity and which are the very reason that you and I are talking about her now. Your silence on this subject is deafening. It is the sole purpose of this thread.

    I know nothing of Lou Tavares, except that he is Deborah Tavares' camera man. So, he is not my concern. I have never caught him manufacturing an elaborate hoax to intentionally defraud the American people to incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans.

    What Deborah Tavares did before she began manufacturing elaborate hoaxes is not my concern either. And, I have never claimed that Deborah Tavares was out to loot the North Coast. Instead, I have claimed that Deborah Tavares uses FORGED, ALTERED and MISCHARACTERIZED documents to intentionally defraud the American people to incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans.

    YOUR COMMENT: What bothers me about your modus opperandi, Mr."snoop4truth" is that it has all the earmarks of a hit piece. -- And I've seen plenty of them, over the years. Yes, it has a smell about it that you are a paid operative whose job it is to discredit Deborah Tavares.

    MY RESPONSE: You are slipping. You forgot to call me a shill and a troll.

    Regardless, does this mean that my method of operation (my "modus operandi") in revealing the truth about "The NASA War Document Hoax" was flawed? If so, what method should I have used to reveal that truth?

    Does this mean that my method in revealing the truth about the "Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars Hoax" was flawed? If so, what method should I have used to reveal that truth?

    Does this mean that my method of revealing the truth about "The Report From Iron Mountain Hoax" was flawed? If so, what method should I have used to reveal that truth?

    Does this mean that my method of revealing the truth about "The Agenda 21 Document Hoax" was flawed? If so, what method should I have used to reveal that truth.

    Does this mean that my method in revealing the truth about "The FORGED PG&E Email Hoax" was flawed? If so, what method should I have used in revealing that truth? The list could go on and on, but you get the point.

    No. You aren't fooling anyone with your irrelevant ad hominem attacks on me (my use of a pseudonym, my alleged modus operandi, my alleged payment, etc.). None of those irrelevant attacks will convert the truth into a lie. The truth will still be the truth. Nothing else matters.

    No. While you pretend otherwise, what you actually oppose IS THE TRUTH ITSELF. And, everyone knows it. That is the real reason for your ad hominem attacks on me. Because you are unable to dispute the accuracy of my facts (and the proof I have provided in my links), you have resorted to attacking me, messenger of the truth. And, that will be perfectly obvious to anyone who reads this thread. They can see your obvious efforts to "switch" the subject matter of this thread in an attempt to take the reader's focus off the truth itself (the only thing that matters). And, everyone knows it.

    My use of a pseudonym will not convert the truth into a lie. The truth will still be the truth. My method of revealing the truth will not convert the truth into a lie. The truth will still be the truth. Whether I am a paid operative for revealing the truth will not convert the truth into a lie. The truth will still be the truth. Nothing else matters. And, everyone knows it.

    YOUR COMMENT: Let me reiterate, in closing, that I am not a partisan of Deborah Tavares.

    MY RESPONSE: Yes, you are. Please do not pretend otherwise. You aren't fooling anybody.

    YOUR COMMENT: She is a person who has come into her activism lately, and attends conspiracy conventions where all manner of data is spread on the table - some of it true / some of it no doubt, false.

    MY RESPONSE: Again, you paint a very flattering portrait of Deborah Tavares. But again, you carefully avoided the subject of the accuracy (the truthfulness) of her claims. Your silence on this subject is absolutely deafening. It is the sole purpose of this thread.

    In painting this flattering portrait, you also inadvertently omit the fact that Deborah Tavares appears regularly on radio shows (which later become videos) and that she has posted hundreds, if not thousands of videos on YouTube peddling her hoaxes. In these videos, Deborah Tavares actually quotes HER OWN FORGERIES in support of her hoaxes (quotes herself and pretends those words are the words of others). How you can publicly defend such INTENTIONAL FRAUD is simply incomprehensible to me.

    YOUR COMMENT: I don't frequent such venues myself, but I find myself in agreement with some of the 'theories' posited by some of those folks. For instance, the notion that the power elite are out to depopulate the planet and that they speak of the masses as "useless eaters." This is not a 'conspiracy theory.' It is happening. They're doing it.

    MY RESPONSE: That may well be. But, the INTENTIONAL FRAUD of Deborah Tavares will not make that evil go away. The INTENTIONAL FRAUD of Deborah Tavares ONLY MAKES THINGS WORSE, NOT BETTER! Wake up! The fact that some conspiracies are real DOES NOT "justify" Deborah Tavares manufacturing elaborate hoaxes to INTENTIONALLY DEFRAUD the American people. That only makes things worse, not better.

    YOUR COMMENT: I suggest that the reason that you prefer not to come out from behind your mask has more to do with your fear - and, perhaps, also the apprehension of your employers - to be hit with a lawsuit by Deborah Tavares, for Libel, than it has to do with any legitimate fear of being waylaid by her "partners" armed with "sawed-off shotguns, nightsticks outfitted with concealed blades, machetes, daggers, illegal switchblades, handguns, rifles, etc."

    MY RESPONSE: Respectfully, you are mistaken. There is no risk of a lawsuit whatsoever, much less a risk of me losing a lawsuit. My facts are true. And, Deborah Tavares knows it. Just ask her and watch her footwork.

    Look, the math here is simple. The liar is the bad guy. The truther is the good guy. So, you should be supporting my efforts, instead of the reverse. The liar is not the champion, hero, savior and messiah of all mankind. The liar is the enemy of all mankind. Lies do not help mankind. Lies hurt mankind. The liar is not the victim of the misconduct others. The liar is the perpetrator of the misconduct upon others. The liar is not the martyr. The liar's victims are the martyrs.

    You are a very confused individual. Your value system is exactly backwards. In your confused value system, the good guy is the bad guy and the bad guy is the good guy. In your confused value system, right is wrong and wrong is right.

    And, contrary to your understanding, my telling the truth is always the right thing for me to do, even when that truth is unpopular, as it is with you.

    Now, if you would like to discuss the accuracy (the truthfulness) of my facts in explaining these hoaxes, just let me know.

    I am always happy to help.

    But, let's keep our eye on the ball.

    Let's focus on the truth.

    Nothing else matters.

    All The Best,

    Snoop
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    YOUR COMMENT: I don't frequent such venues myself, but I find myself in agreement with some of the 'theories' posited by some of those folks. For instance, the notion that the power elite are out to depopulate the planet and that they speak of the masses as "useless eaters." This is not a 'conspiracy theory.' It is happening. They're doing it.
    just to jump in with Snoop... this is again trying to frame things as a conspiracy, despite your attempt to claim "it's not a conspiracy, it's real". There are huge number of people, already living, who find the idea of more living people a bad idea. I haven't heard 'useless eaters' but I've heard 'breeders' thrown around a lot as a slur. It's not just the elite who are concerned about excess population. You see very many earnest people who think that the size of current population means environmental degradation and economic stress. They're almost certainly right. So.. it's not likely that it's the idea that bothers you. I guess since you say the "elite are out to depopulate the planet ... They're doing it" you have some knowledge of their nefarious activities? Wanna enlighten us? It sounds like something we ought to know about.
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    Almost certainly right? Interesting. Perhaps you regret breeding? No grandkids yet? I believe as males, cumming into fertility after reproductive rights in us, have less responsibility than females, who have less kids, currently under replacement in us. To dismiss any argument as conspiracy is ignorance of history. While you're probably right, you might be wrong. If your point is show me, I'm from Missouri, then be patent, yes most conspiracies are wrong guesses, but the true change our knowledge, most valuable.

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    ...It's not just the elite who are concerned about excess population. You see very many earnest people who think that the size of current population means environmental degradation and economic stress. They're almost certainly right.....
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    Look Snoop, I don't have a dog in this race. I actually am not a partisan - of Deborah Tavares or of any one else. I don't play the binary game {Which Side Are You On?} favored by the Stalinists of the Left and Right. For my part, I discern that you, Snoop, engage in the technique known as the "snowjob." - Which is another way of saying that you put forth too many words.

    I just don't like slander or libel - of anyone, by any one. That is why I made the comment above, and that is the sum of my involvement and my concern.

    You have failed to persuade me of anything. I am not interested in the multitude of your "links." TMI - too much information. Somehow, your much vaunted altruism has failed to come off as such - at least to this one.

    Sincerely, & solidly,
    politically non-partisan

    Mark Walter Evans
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    podfish, you wrote,
    I guess since you say the "elite are out to depopulate the planet ... They're doing it" you have some knowledge of their nefarious activities? Wanna enlighten us? It sounds like something we ought to know about.

    All I can say is open your eyes. Dwight D. Eisenhower warned about the Military Industrial Complex in his farewell address. He was in a position to know. Wars are not caused by the Commons. That should be self-evident. Wars are caused by the bankers and businessmen & cartels & corporations who benefit from them. That is simply barebones economic reality.

    There was a time, perhaps a century ago, when the power elite wanted the commons to breed abundantly. The masses were useful both as cannon fodder and also as Marx's "reserve army of labor" since the multitude of proletarians kept the wages low.

    Since the 1970's the agenda of the plutocrats has been depopulation - and it is ongoing. The murderers among mankind have been made to multiply. Death stalks the earth. Just open your eyes.

    Check out the 'Georgia Guidestones' :

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=the+georgi...t&t=osx&ia=web

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    Look Snoop, I don't have a dog in this race. I actually am not a partisan - of Deborah Tavares or of any one else. I don't play the binary game {Which Side Are You On?} favored by the Stalinists of the Left and Right. For my part, I discern that you, Snoop, engage in the technique known as the "snowjob." - Which is another way of saying that you put forth too many words.

    I just don't like slander or libel - of anyone, by any one. That is why I made the comment above, and that is the sum of my involvement and my concern.

    You have failed to persuade me of anything. I am not interested in the multitude of your "links." TMI - too much information. Somehow, your much vaunted altruism has failed to come off as such - at least to this one.

    Sincerely, & solidly,
    politically non-partisan

    Mark Walter Evans
    YOUR COMMENT: Look Snoop, I don't have a dog in this race.

    MY RESPONSE: Yes, you do. Do not pretend otherwise. You aren't fooling anybody.

    YOUR COMMENT: I actually am not a partisan - of Deborah Tavares or of any one else.

    MY RESPONSE: Yes, you are. Do not pretend otherwise. You aren't fooling anybody.

    YOUR COMMENT: I don't play the binary game {Which Side Are You On?} favored by the Stalinists of the Left and Right.

    MY RESPONSE: Please. Give me a break. That is precisely the game that you play. Indeed, you play no other game. You mistakenly believe that you and Deborah Tavares are on one side and that I am on the other. You reach this mistaken conclusion because both you and Deborah Tavares are conspiracy theorists. But, you are mistaken. A person, like Deborah Tavares, who intentionally defrauds you is not actually on your side. She is actually your enemy. But, you do not yet realize it. A person, like me, who tells you the truth is actually on your side. I am actually your friend. But, you do not yet realize it. Hopefully, one day you will.

    YOUR COMMENT: For my part, I discern...

    MY RESPONSE: You do no such thing. Your analysis is entirely superficial. All Deborah Tavares has to do is wrap herself in the flag of conspiracy theory and you simply turn your critical thinking skills off and mindlessly accept every claim that she makes. Indeed, you do not actually care whether Deborah Tavares' claims are true or false because her claims validate your own belief system. And, you do not want to challenge your own belief system. So, you mindlessly reject all facts that are inconsistent with the claims of Deborah Tavares, as you have shown here. That mindless rejection of facts is not using your critical thinking skills. That mindless rejection of facts is not "discernment". That mindless rejection of facts is simply self-imposed ignorance. Nothing more. If it hasn't occurred to you yet, Deborah Tavares can wrap herself in the flag of conspiracy theory AND still be intentionally defrauding you. One does not rule out the other. Wake up! Think. There are pathological liars on BOTH sides of the conspiracy debate. But, you do not realize it yet. Hopefully, one day you will.

    YOUR COMMENT: ...that you, Snoop, engage in the technique known as the "snowjob." - Which is another way of saying that you put forth too many words.

    MY RESPONSE: In carefully avoiding the subject of whether my claims are factually true (the only thing that actually matters), you have desperately and repeatedly tried to shift the focus away from the truth to a number of IRRELEVANT SUBJECTS. You have previously complained about my use of a pseudonym (as if that makes the truth false). You have previously complained about my method (my "modus operandi") of revealing the truth (as if that makes he truth false). You have even previously complained about my allegedly receiving payment for telling the truth (as if that makes the truth false). Now, you complain about my "technique" in telling the truth (as if that makes the truth false). Specifically, now you complain that the truth has "too many words" (as if that makes the truth false). But, you are slipping. You forgot to complain about a number of OTHER IRRELEVANT SUBJECTS. You forgot to complain about my use of heavy emphasis, my use of bold type, my use of capital letters, my use of italic type, my use of color, my use of underlines, my use of links to the proof, etc. (as if any of that makes the truth false).

    If you had bothered to actually read my work before you began complaining about it, you would have realized that the VERY FIRST POST in this thread contains a concise summary of ALL 16 HOAXES of Deborah Tavares. In that ONE, SINGLE POST, each hoax is concisely described IN JUST A FEW SENTENCES. Check it and see. Each explanation is short. That ONE SINGLE POST reveals the substance of every Deborah Tavares hoax uncovered as of today. All of the remaining posts are longer BECAUSE THEY CONTAIN PROOF (for those who demand proof, who think for themselves and who prefer to use their own critical thinking skills in reaching their own conclusions). You may not yet be among these people. But, hopefully, one day you will be.

    And, if it has not occurred to you yet, it is the fact that Deborah Tavares has engaged in SO MANY HOAXES that this thread is so long in the first place. Am I to blame for the shear number of hoaxes that Deborah Tavares has engaged in too? How does the math work for that? If this list of Deborah Tavares hoaxes is too long, then Deborah Tavares herself deserves all the credit. Not me.

    YOUR COMMENT: I just don't like slander or libel - of anyone, by any one.

    MY RESPONSE: Nobody likes libel or slander. But, the terms, libel and slander, have no application here. I am a lawyer. So, I know what those words actually mean. I know who has the burden of proof. I know what elements have to be proven. I know the standards applicable to public figures, like Deborah Tavares. I know that truth is an absolute defense. My claims are absolutely, verifiably true. And, Deborah Tavares knows it. Just ask her. Thus, my claims are not slander or libel (which must be false to be actionable). The fact that the truth about Deborah Tavares paints an unflattering picture of her will not convert the truth into slander or libel. The truth will still be the truth. Am I to blame for the fact that the truth about Deborah Tavares paints an unflattering portrait of who she REALLY is as a human being? How does the math work for that? If the truth about Deborah Tavares is unflattering, then Deborah Tavares herself deserves all the credit. Not me.

    YOUR COMMENT: That is why I made the comment above, and that is the sum of my involvement and my concern.

    MY RESPONSE: Sure it is. That explains why you have spent most of your time complaining about my use of a pseudonym, my method for telling the truth, my alleged payment for telling the truth, my technique for telling the truth, my use of too many words in telling the truth, etc. Please. Give me a break.

    You are not fooling anybody. WHAT YOU ACTUALLY OPPOSE IS THE TRUTH ITSELF and that is why you made the comment above and that is the sum of your involvement and your concern. And, everybody knows it.

    YOUR COMMENT: You have failed to persuade me of anything.

    MY RESPONSE: Your self-imposed ignorance harms nobody but you. There are many others online who actually want to know the facts, regardless of what those facts turn out to be. There are many others online who actually want to know the truth, regardless of what that truth turns out to be. There are many others online with the courage and the intellectual capacity to consider and analyze facts that are inconsistent with their own belief system. You may not yet be among them. But, hopefully, one day you will be. You have everything to gain and nothing to lose.

    YOUR COMMENT: I am not interested in the multitude of your "links." TMI - too much information.

    MY RESPONSE: Your disinterest is quite understandable. To a person like you, who actually opposes the truth itself, any amount of truth is too much truth, links or no links. But, to those who actually seek the truth, no amount of truth is enough truth, exactly the opposite of people like you. It is those people for whom I do my work. My target readers are those who actually seek the truth, who demand proof of the truth and who prefer to use their own critical thinking skills in reaching the own conclusions. You may not yet be among them. But, hopefully, one day you will be. You have everything to gain and nothing to lose.

    YOUR COMMENT: Somehow, your much vaunted altruism has failed to come off as such - at least to this one.

    MY RESPONSE: I have enough faith in you and your abilities to believe that your ideas will change about that.

    Regards,

    Snoop
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    Sincerely, "Snoop," you think that by spieling a plethora of words you will put your line of propaganda over. You also think that by insulting someone who called you on your obvious partisanship to your corporate sponsor - whoever that may be, I can only guess - you will draw me out further, and cause me to stumble because of your ad hominem insults.

    Barry himself can reflect that I took up the cause of another local 'right wing radical' - John Jenkll - after half of his land was attached by the County, and fraudulently transferred to his neighbor, Mr. Hobbs, via a closed-to-the-public auction at which Mr. Hobbs was the only bidder. I became an advocate for John Jenkll in the venue of this website, WaccoBB, not because I was a "partisan" of his, but for the simple reason that I also am a property owner in Sonoma county, and because I hate injustice.

    I suggest that if you sincerely want to put your case to the public, or even be taken seriously - {because I doubt that very many of the readers of WaccoBB have taken the time to click on the multitude of links that you have supplied on this thread} - that you Challenge Deborah Tavares to a Public Debate. Judith I am, I'm sure, could organize it; Cloud could get in on the act, and sell tickets at the Community Center.

    You needn't decline out of fear of being assaulted,
    mugged, murdered, or waylaid, by "Deborah Tavares' partners in her hoaxes [who have] have publicly called for [your] death. These partners of Deborah Tavares are multi-convicted, weapons-related, violent felons. They actually have criminal convictions for carrying (in the front seat of their cars) illegally sawed-off shot guns, night sticks outfitted with concealed razor blades, machetes, daggers, illegal switch blades, hand guns, rifles, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, etc. If more be necessary, these partners of Deborah Tavares are mentally ill and have been involuntarily incarcerated in mental institutions on more than one occasion..."

    ...For the simple reason that you could request the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department to provide protection for your poor beleaguered person.

    So there you have it, Snoop. Come clean. If you still wish to remain Anonymous at the Debate, you have the Option to don a Guy Fawkes mask.

    I'm not going to rise to the bait that you have put forth in your latest missive. There is the gauntlet : Challenge Deborah Tavares to a Public Debate. We can all be witness to your lawyerly courtroom skills in action. It would be up to her, then to accept your challenge. If it happens, I promise, I'll attend...

    But truly, I do not have a dog in the race. And I ain't gwine to meddle with your tar-baby taunts...

    Sincerely,
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    "The Rothschilds Are Restructuring North America Hoax"

    THE HOAX (THE FAKE EVIDENCE):
    In this hoax, Deborah Tavares fraudulently claims that an October, 30th 2017, press release stated that the Rothschilds were "restructuring North America" itself (as in "taking it over" and "changing it").

    VIDEOS OF DEBORAH TAVARES ENGAGED IN THE HOAX:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaDYMzQ2eFQ (at 4:50-5:00, 54:00-54:20);
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9FU2J8qh4U (at 32:55-34:00);
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYkdGbLvbMg (at 2:30-5:10).

    (Poor Quality Audio In The Videos Below)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAwycy_u110 (at 1:10:00-1:10:45);
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8TijoQEsvw (at 31:50-32:15);

    THE TRUTH: But, the subject press release DOES NOT say this. Instead, it merely says that a Rothschild company was restructuring "IN" (as in "inside") North America. A full reading of the press release indicates that the term, "restructuring'' as used in the subject press release, refers to Rothschild RESTRUCTURING DEBT (as in "re-financing"), NOT RESTRUCTURING ALL OF NORTH AMERICA ITSELF! See proof here. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300545454.html.

    PURPOSE OF HOAX: The purpose of this hoax was to fraudulently create a link between the "Rothschilds" and Agenda 21, to make Americans think that the "Rothschilds" were "restructuring" all of north America under the Agenda 21 model of "sustainable development" which Deborah Tavares falsely claims will drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into tightly-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" and "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. For proof of this purpose, click on the links below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYkdGbLvbMg (at 1:40-2:30);
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cq1NipzK-Y (at 30:45-32:55);
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9FU2J8qh4U (at 5:00-6:20);
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAwycy_u110 (at 14:50-16:50).

    CONCLUSION: The Rothschilds are not "restructuring North America". Instead, a single Rothschild company is only restructuring debt (as in "re-financing") of creditor and debtor clients INSIDE OF North America.

    Video by Virgo Triad on this very hoax. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX4W...&index=13&t=0s



    "The Rothschilds Own All Of The Utility Companies Hoax"

    THE HOAX: In this hoax, Deborah Tavares fraudulently claims that the Rothschilds OWN all of the utility companies.

    VIDEOS OF DEBORAH TAVARES ENGAGED IN THE HOAX:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeJkYovY0AM (at 11:00-11:20);
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9FU2J8qh4U (at 4:10-4:40);

    THE FAKE EVIDENCE: In furtherance of this this hoax, Deborah Tavares fraudulently claims that she obtained a curriculum vitae (effectively a resume' for expert witnesses) attached to the sworn testimony of a member of the Rothschild family wherein he stated that "he OWNED dozens and dozens of utility companies". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf_HDda_cVs (at 7:40-14:20).

    THE TRUTH: But, the subject curriculum vitae DOES NOT say this. Instead, it merely says that a "James A. Rothschild" is a financial consultant AND AN EXPERT WITNESS who has testified in dozens and dozens of court cases in which utility companies were parties (a plaintiff or a defendant). Nothing more. See pages 3-5 and pages 36-46 here. http://www.ripuc.org/eventsactions/d...hild(3.04).pdf.

    PURPOSE OF HOAX: The purpose of this hoax was to create the appearance that the Rothschilds were actually in a position to use their "THEIR" utility company technologies as "weapons" to drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into tightly-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" and "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind.

    FACT: Logically, "James A. Rothschild" had no ownership interest of any of the utility companies named in the subject curriculum vitae above. If Rothschild had an ownership interest in those companies, then he would not have been hired as an expert witness in those cases. This is because he would have had a financial interest in the outcomes of those cases, which would have destroyed his credibility before the judge and jury. Lawyers who hire such expert witnesses only hire those whose backgrounds makes them credible witnesses, not the other way around.

    Illustration Of James A. Rothschild's Role As An Expert Witness In the Court Cases Listed on his curriculum vitae

    A city gives an electrical utility company a monopoly on providing city residents with electrical power. In exchange, the utility company agrees that the city will determine the rates its residents will pay for electricity. The city promises the utility that it will set rates so as to allow the utility to pay its expenses and earn a small profit, but that it will not set rates so high as to be a burden on city residents.

    Years later, the city population has tripled and the utility company needs to build a larger electrical plant to meet increased demand. But, the new plant will cost millions. So, the utility company sues the city and claims that it needs a rate increase of 50% to offset its added costs of building the new plant.

    In response, the city hires James A. Rothschild as an expert witness to testify AGAINST the utility company. James A. Rothschild testifies that a 50% rate increase is excessive, because the costs of the new plant can be amortized over a twenty year period which can be absorbed by a mere 5% rate increase.

    By hiring James A. Rothschild to testify as an expert witness in the case, the city saved each city resident a small fortune. Note that in the case above (reflected in the link above containing the subject transcript), JAMES A. ROTHSCHILD WAS HIRED BY THE CITY TO TESTIFY AGAINST THE RATE INCREASE SOUGHT BY THE FERRY COMPANY. So, it is NOT the case that James A. Rothschild is only hired by utility companies to testify against the public and in favor of rate increases sought by utility companies.

    MORE FAKE EVIDENCE: In support of this same hoax, Deborah Tavares also fraudulently claims that she recently attended a PG&E stockholder's meeting wherein the PG&E Board Of Directors were allegedly seated in the front row of the audience and individually introduced to the stockholders. She fraudulently claims that a person named "Rothschild" was introduced to the stockholders as a PG&E Board member (as if that would make him the "OWNER" of PG&E). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NZo...ature=youtu.be (at 3:00-3:45). But, this claim is not so.

    THE TRUTH: NO PG&E BOARD MEMBER HAS SUCH A NAME. See proof here. http://www.pgecorp.com/corp/about-us...directors.page.

    PURPOSE OF HOAX: The purpose of this hoax was to fraudulently create a link between the "Rothschilds" and Deborah Tavares' FAKE version of Agenda 21, to make Americans think that the Rothschilds were using "THEIR" utility company technologies as "weapons" to drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into tightly-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" and "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. For proof: of this purpose, click here.

    Go to 14:50-16:30 here
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAwycy_u110,
    Go to 30:45 - 32:55 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cq1NipzK-Y
    Go to 1:40-2:30 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYkdGbLvbMg.
    .
    THE SOLE CONNECTION:
    The sole connection that we have found between PG&E and anything "Rothschild" (person or entity) is "Roger H. Kimmel" (who is NOT a Rothschild). Kimmel was once an "INDEPENDENT" board member of PG&E (meaning he did not own or control any stock directly or indirectly in PG&E) during the same period he was a board member of Rothschild North America, Inc. (a bank). (NOTE THAT KIMMEL'S STATUS AS AN "INDEPENDENT" BOARD MEMBER OF PG&E AMOUNTS TO PROOF THAT ROTHSCHILD, NORTH AMERICA, INC., ITSELF HAD NO OWNERSHIP INTEREST IN PG&E. OTHERWISE, KIMMEL WOULD NOT HAVE QUALIFIED AS AN "INDEPENDENT" BOARD MEMBER OF PG&E.). Kimmel resigned his position with PG&E on January 14th, 2019, when PG&E filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/corpor...rnia-utility-1.

    For the Rothschilds to be the sole "owners" of PG&E, they would have to own all of the stock in all of the following corporations which do own stock in PG&E. https://stockzoa.com/ticker/pcg/. For the Rothschilds to own a controlling interest in PG&E, they would have to own at least half of the stock in all of these same corporations which do own stock in PG&E. https://stockzoa.com/ticker/pcg/.

    CONCLUSION:
    The Rothschilds do not "own" PG&E because they do not own all of the stock of all of these corporations which do own stock in PG&E. https://stockzoa.com/ticker/pcg/. The Rothschilds do not own a controlling interest in PG&E, because they do not own at least half of the stock in all of these same corporations which do own stock in PG&E. https://stockzoa.com/ticker/pcg/. No current officer or director of PG&E has any known connection to the Rothschilds. But, even if there was, having a single friendly board member of PG&E (like "Roger H. Kimmel") DOES NOT make the Rothschilds the "OWNERS" of PG&E.


    Video by Virgo Triad on this very hoax. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TgZLgkxV_s


    FOR THE NEXT FULL-LENGTH EXPLANATION OF A DEBORAH TAVARES HOAX, GO TO POST #48.

    COMING SOON! THE ROTHSCHILDS CONTROL THE WEATHER HOAX:
    VIDEOS OF DEBORAH TAVARES ENGAGED IN THE HOAX:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9FU2J8qh4U (43:05-43:50)
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    Sincerely, "Snoop," you think that by spieling a plethora of words you will put your line of propaganda over...
    ...



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    Seriously Snoop, you ought, in all fairness, Challenge the old gal to a Public Debate...

    As long as you remain Anonymous, and she has no recourse to an open Defense of her own positions, there is no point in you making further accusations. Justice requires that Deborah Tavares, herself, have her own 'day in court.' - That she may be able to answer you - who stand as her accuser - in the venue of a Public Debate, as I have suggested.

    Assemble your Evidence - as a prosecutor would, and prepare to make your Case, in Public. Debates of this sort must be run strictly, according to the principles laid out in Robert's Rules of Order. It can be done...

    Sincerely,
    Mark Walter Evans
    (my name)

    P.S. I am not a "partisan" of the old gal, neither am I in contact with her. You discredit yourself by alleging thus - and as I have said so before, I will not now rise to the bait embedded in your latest insults. {the two pictures, above} I have my own internal governor, and I am acting on my own.
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    Seriously Snoop, you ought, in all fairness, Challenge the old gal to a Public Debate...
    oh come on. Why bother? (I'm not sure why I bother...) as far as I can tell, she's a minor celebrity in the conspiracy world. Her words are out there, for those interested in tracking them down. If they're as silly as Snoop represents, she doesn't deserve another forum to expound on them. She's got her own forum for laying out her case, and it can be countered directly.

    actually, "must be run strictly.. by Robert's Rule of Order" is silly too. Publicly promoted ideas can be refuted in pretty much any way a critic sees fit. If the critic's logic or claims don't add up, well, it's there for everyone to see.


    (Sorry for contributing without the requisite weird capitalization, but at least I did italicize something)
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    podfish, What would be "there for every one to see" would be both the prosecution, conducted by the lawyer, "Snoop4truth" and the defense and rebuttal, conducted by Deborah Tavares, in person.

    Otherwise, Snoop can take pot shots at Deborah Tavares, and since he remains, in this venue, anonymous, she is subject to what amounts to defamation of character without recourse to her own, in person, verbal rebuttal...

    Remember, everyone is Innocent until proven Guilty. That is how the Courts operate, and that was how American Jurisprudence - traditionally - operated. Someone inform me if the rules of the road have changed...

    That is why I strenuously disagree with you, podfish, when you pontificate "
    ...Her words are out there, for those interested in tracking them down. If they're as silly as Snoop represents, she doesn't deserve another forum to expound on them...."

    Tell me, when did simply making a series of accusations - and anonymously at that - constitute "proof" before the bar of Public opinion? When did this change take place, podfish, can you answer me that?

    My own grandfather, Walter W. Liggett was a well known investigative journalist, for a period of thirty years. {1905-1935} He took on many serious contenders - the plutocracy & their minions - never petite bourgeoisie like Deborah Tavares. He named names and wrote the facts clearly and concisely. He always put his own name on all of his articles. After he was assassinated, on December 9, 1935, he was eulogized as "the last of the muckrakers." He never hid behind a silly, anonymous 'handle' like "Snoop4truth" does.

    I have no idea if Deborah Tavares would be willing to engage in her own defense in a public venue like the one I have suggested. I just think that a public debate would tend to make this issue a level playing field. At present, it is not...

    And I would suggest to you, Barry - though I'm sure that you've heard this before - that you require all persons who open accounts at WaccoBB to present the public with their real names. - And that they not be allowed to hide behind masks. Otherwise, you are allowing an anonymous accuser to defame another individual on your website, with impunity. I suggest that you consider the morality of that.

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    I really think it is up to Deborah Tavares to request a debate.
    I don't know why Mayacaman is getting so worked up about this. It's a public forum and if he doesn't like/disagrees with someone else's point of view, even when that point of view well-substantiated, he can simply scroll past those particular posts. Since he is so dismissive of them, that should be easy for him to do.
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    wisewomn wrote:
    I really think it is up to Deborah Tavares to request a debate.
    I don't know why Mayacaman is getting so worked up about this. It's a public forum and if he doesn't like/disagrees with someone else's point of view, even when that point of view well-substantiated, he can simply scroll past those particular posts. Since he is so dismissive of them, that should be easy for him to do.
    Fine, I'll desist. You have a point, wisewomn, and I've made my statement. It is up to the both of them, to challenge the other to a debate. In my own defense, I'll say, I'm not "worked up." I just recognize, in the missives of "Snoop4truth" an example of the worst form of predatory yellow journalism. - Worse than anything that ever came from the Hearst press. Worse.

    It isn't even journalism, since he doesn't have the balls to put his own name on it. It is diatribe, and the purpose of it is not only to discredit Deborah Tavares, but also to muddy the water and brand all of the notions she has peddled as "lies" and wild "conspiracy theories." Nothing is ever quite that simple.

    Rosa Koire, who lives in this county, is a registered Democrat, and works for the State of California, wrote a book about U.N. Agenda 21. It is a book that is well worth reading. She's not a "nut." She is an articulate, and accomplished woman. Here is the link: https://www.behindthegreenmask.com/

    I have learned to recognize screeds that are produced for the purpose of discrediting others. Usually the intended ‘target’ is small potatoes. The salvos that are directed at the object of the diatribes {in this case, Deborah Tavares} are really intended to discredit the Ideas &/OR doctrines that the person who is being smeared represents, or espouses.

    “Snoop4truth” & his multitude of words, fits the bill for this kind of smear campaign – to a T. It’s called “Shoot the messenger.” In my lifetime, I have seen it manifested in the McCarthyism of the 1950’s. I’m old enough to recall some of that, firsthand.

    In the 1990’s, in a bizarre development, a form of “left-wing McCarthyism” appeared. The objects of this new species of invective were discredited by being called “right-wing conspiracy theorists.”

    In the 50’s, when the establishment was solidly Republican, the preferred term to discredit someone was to label them as a “communist.” But no more. Calling someone a “conspiracy theorist” is the new way for putting someone with socially unacceptable thought patterns in the pale. Of course it should be relative to each and every individual as to which thoughts are "acceptable" or not.

    That is why I favor the venue of the debate. We, the public would be able to see and hear these two contenders in action, and, hopefully be able to make intelligent judgments about the truth &/Or error of their relative positions...

    Sincerely,

    Mark Walter Evans
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    And I would suggest to you, Barry - though I'm sure that you've heard this before - that you require all persons who open accounts at WaccoBB to present the public with their real names. - And that they not be allowed to hide behind masks. Otherwise, you are allowing an anonymous accuser to defame another individual on your website, with impunity. I suggest that you consider the morality of that.
    Point taken. I have written to snoop about being less aggressive about his posts and I expect him to comply. I do know his real identity. Given that his posts have sought to debunk her conspiracy theories with factual references, rather than attack her as a person I have decided to let them stand.
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    The issue about his comments being on WaccoBB is fine with me, Barry. I am only concerned about the Public knowing who Mr. "Snoop4truth" is. I don't think that anyone who indulges in that sort of character assassination should be allowed to do it anonymously. Before the advent of the digital age and the world wide web, back in the era of printed media, people could not get away with that sort of sniping.

    There are, after all, laws on the books which relate to Libel. Of course, we have heard Mr. Snoop weigh in on this point, rendering his legal opinion - as a lawyer - that it is not technically "libel" if it is "true." The whole tenor and methodology of his aggressive manner of attack, however, suggests that his Agenda is to totally destroy the credibility of said Deborah Tavares...

    "Some of Deborah Tavares' partners in her hoaxes have publicly called for my death. These partners of Deborah Tavares are multi-convicted, weapons-related, violent felons. They actually have criminal convictions for carrying (in the front seat of their cars) illegally sawed-off shot guns, night sticks outfitted with concealed razor blades, machetes, daggers, illegal switch blades, hand guns, rifles, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, etc. If more be necessary, these partners of Deborah Tavares are mentally ill and have been involuntarily incarcerated in mental institutions on more than one occasion."

    That's pretty much nonsense, as far as what I know about Mrs. Tavares. She is a Republican, and a civil member of society, as far as I can see. Her Saturday night video soiree's {accent ecu} back in 2011 were held at the venue of her son-in-law's chiropractic office in downtown Santa Rosa. I attended about four of them, and saw the scene...

    These are respectable people, conservatives, petite
    bourgeois types. Such people do not hang with the sort of thugs that Mr. "Snoop4truth" describes and alleges in the quotation above. They just don't.
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    The Tavareses may not hang out with thugs, Mayacaman, but her messages probably resonate with those kinds of people and one way or another incite violent behavior. Look at some of the violent actions of certain Trump supporters. There has definitely been an uptick in violence since Trump took office, and he routinely appeals to people who subscribe to Tavares' conspiracy theories.
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    wisewomn wrote:
    " The Tavareses may not hang out with thugs, Mayacaman, but her messages probably resonate with those kinds of people and one way or another incite violent behavior. Look at some of the violent actions of certain Trump supporters. There has definitely been an uptick in violence since Trump took office, and he routinely appeals to people who subscribe to Tavares' conspiracy theories.
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    We can only make judgments from the data that we have received with our own five senses, wisewomn. That is in accord with the "Cartesian Method." And I am only reporting on what I, personally know of the milieu in which I once (back in 2011) watched Deborah Tavares hold court. At that time, there were no thugs in the mix - not even close.

    But you are correct about the changed atmosphere since Trump appeared on the political scene - the Klan rally in Charlottesville being a prime example. And the way that Bannon / Trump marshaled the wingbat elements is truly amazing, from a sociological standpoint. It would be amusing, if there were not such a definite potential for evil and mayhem in it. Still, I find it next to impossible to accept Mr Snoop4truth's allegations about:

    "...Deborah Tavares' partners in her hoaxes [who] have publicly called for my death. These partners of Deborah Tavares are multi-convicted, weapons-related, violent felons. They actually have criminal convictions for carrying (in the front seat of their cars) illegally sawed-off shot guns, night sticks outfitted with concealed razor blades, machetes, daggers, illegal switch blades, hand guns, rifles, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, etc. If more be necessary, these partners of Deborah Tavares are mentally ill and have been involuntarily incarcerated in mental institutions on more than one occasion."

    Proof? At present this is nothing but an unsubstantiated report from an anonymous source, a man, who quite patently has an axe to grind, who claims to be pure of heart, an altruistic crusader - and yet one who proceeds to defame and insult me after I merely ask him to take off his mask & cloak
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    Seriously Snoop, you ought, in all fairness, Challenge the old gal to a Public Debate...

    As long as you remain Anonymous, and she has no recourse to an open Defense of her own positions, there is no point in you making further accusations. Justice requires that Deborah Tavares, herself, have her own 'day in court.' - That she may be able to answer you - who stand as her accuser - in the venue of a Public Debate, as I have suggested.

    Assemble your Evidence - as a prosecutor would, and prepare to make your Case, in Public. Debates of this sort must be run strictly, according to the principles laid out in Robert's Rules of Order. It can be done...

    Sincerely,
    Mark Walter Evans
    (my name)

    P.S. I am not a "partisan" of the old gal, neither am I in contact with her. You discredit yourself by alleging thus - and as I have said so before, I will not now rise to the bait embedded in your latest insults. {the two pictures, above} I have my own internal governor, and I am acting on my own.
    Hello Mayacaman,

    YOUR COMMENT: Seriously Snoop, you ought, in all fairness, Challenge the old gal to a Public Debate...

    MY RESPONSE: If it has not yet occurred to you, this thread is a public debate. If Deborah Tavares can find a false statement of material fact anywhere in any of my work above, then she would be able to post actual proof of that false statement of material fact right here in this thread for all the world to see. But, all of my claims are true. So, Deborah Tavares will NEVER be able to post proof of a false statement of material fact in any of my work here in this thread. And, if it makes any difference, she would be just as unable to show proof of a false statement of material fact in my work in a live debate. This is not about a live appearance somewhere. This about the truth. Nothing else matters.

    Deborah Tavares knows that my claims are true. (Just ask her. Really, just ask her and watch her footwork.).

    YOUR COMMENT: As long as you remain Anonymous, she has no recourse.

    MY RESPONSE: Not so. Deborah Tavares can post proof of any false statement of material fact in my work right here on this thread for all the world to see. That would settle it, once and for all.

    And, while we are on the subject of a public, written debate right here on this thread, what statement of material fact in my work above do you contend is not true?

    1. Something in the NASA War Document Hoax (above) not true?
    2. Something in the Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars Hoax (above) not true?
    3. Something in the Report From Iron Mountain Hoax (above) not true?
    4. Something in the Agenda 21 Hoax (above) not true?
    5. Something in the FORGED PG&E Email Hoax (above) not true?
    6. Something in the Genocide Agreement Hoax (above) not true?
    7. Something in the Rothschild Is Restructuring North America Hoax (above) not true?
    8. Something in the Rothschilds Own All The Utility Companies Hoax (above) not true?
    9. Something in the London Accounting Firms To Bankrupt All Cities Hoax (above) not true?
    10. Something in the Judge DALE Hoax (above) not true?
    11. Something in the Court Registry Investment System Hoax (above) not true?
    12. Something in the All Governments & Government Agencies Are Private Corporations Hoax not true?
    13. Something in the Rod Class Has Obtained Four Rulings To That Effect Hoax (above) not true?
    14. Something in the Police Warned To Put Property Into Other Peoples' Names Hoax (above) not true?
    15. Something in the FAKE Jim Traficant Speech Hoax (above) not true?
    16. Something in the Sovereign Citizen Hoax (above) not true?

    If you are unable to find a false statement of material fact anywhere in my work, then join the side of truth.

    We would welcome you with open arms.

    It is all about the truth.

    Nothing else matters.

    All My Best,

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    Snoop,

    I am done with this thread. Really, I mean it is wearisome. I have, by the way, opened several of your links. You have failed to persuade me. And, frankly I find the whole issue tiresome. As I have attempted to make clear, I am not now, nor have I ever been a "partisan" of Deborah Tavares.

    Your attempts to smear me with that brush are simply a classic example of the old tactic of "guilt by association." The same tactic has been practiced by the H.U.A.C., Senator Joseph McCarthy, and the A.D.L. Calling someone a "conspiracy theorist" in the twenty-first century is equivalent to calling someone a "communist" back in 1950. I've made that point, also.

    Unless someone other than you draws me back into his particular Arena, Snoop - with some compelling bit of trivia - I'm done. As the street lingo runs, "I'm outta here." I still think you should challenge Deborah Tavares to a public debate - and I repeat my challenge to you on that score. I also think you should come clean and take off your mask and cloak. And that is all I have to say. I've made my point.

    Best Regards,
    Mark

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