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    ray50sfo
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    Re: What happened to the Russian collusion?

    Typical totalitarian government response Elder...discredit and demean any opposing (non-acceptable group think opinions).

    Bot, who needs bots when we have mindless "useful idiots" regurgitating the deep state party line?

    Group mind control works.

    Clearly, anyone who disagrees with you is to be feared, discredited, disparaged and done away with as soon as possible.

    No dialogue, no trial, guilty as charged (by you).

    Sort of like what Castro did; kill tens of thousands of those whose ideas threatened him after he took power espousing "power to the people" and "social justice" to his ignorant supporters.

    Thank god you people don't have more power; all Trump supporters and anyone who disagrees with you would be in camps within the week...

    This all reminds me why I moved out of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Sebastopol.

    Too many self-righteous hypocrites.

    Notice, most laws are for controlling your behavior, not the people who make them.

    I bet you can't watch this all the way through without your head exploding.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhAoDE2K1wM

    Have a nice day.



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    Looks like our new auto-bot, Travis Pisors (TNT Farms) has only been a waccobb member for about a week now (joined 3/15/19), so go easy on him...

    I wonder if he is the same TP that owns North Coast Logistics Inc in Reynoldsburg, Ohio?
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    Re: What happened to the Russian collusion?

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    ....Clearly, anyone who disagrees with you is to be feared, discredited, disparaged and done away with as soon as possible. ....
    uh, how 'bout "anyone who comes out gloating, taunting and mocking is to be discredited and disparaged". I see about zero evidence of fear -- that's wishful thinking on your part? -- and neither you nor he have been 'done away with'. Though loss of a forum for your odd choices in political cartoons may feel like death. The disparagement seems to be mutual, that's kind of what TNT is all about, and discrediting, though he seems to think he's doing that too, requires some factual backing. I haven't seen him or you discredit anyone successfully yet.
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    TNTfarms
     

    Re: What happened to the Russian collusion?

    Lol. Democrats don't like facts. Unless they fit there narrative. For 3 years they been lying about a fake dossier to obtain spying warrants. Even the commie Jim Brennan is backpedaling his fearmongering about trump and Russia. Eric holder the same.

    The got caught, Instead of saying hey the investigation is over and there was no evidence of obstruction or collusion. Shifty will just open up more fake investigations.

    Be funny to see how that platform will work for them in 2020. Trump's new campaign slogan.

    Can you show us what the Democrats have done in last 4 years.
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    Re: What happened to the Russian collusion?

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    Lol. Democrats don't like facts. Unless they fit there narrative. For 3 years they been lying about a fake dossier to obtain spying warrants. Even the commie Jim Brennan is backpedaling his fearmongering about trump and Russia. Eric holder the same.

    The got caught, Instead of saying hey the investigation is over and there was no evidence of obstruction or collusion. Shifty will just open up more fake investigations.

    Be funny to see how that platform will work for them in 2020. Trump's new campaign slogan.

    Can you show us what the Democrats have done in last 4 years.
    You're amusing; you know very well that the Mueller investigation was a Republican scam and distraction foisted on gullible liberals, and NOT a progressive effort.

    Look at the timing of the release of this: "moderate" Republicans were just finally feeling compelled to stand up to Trump's BS and a dozen of them voted against his "emergency declaration" and Democrats were finally clearing their eyes of their little visions of sugarplums of a Republican ex-FBI prosecutor coming to save them and doing some real work, and of course that all gets derailed by the release of the Mueller report.

    And this is after 2 years of Democrats failing to fight Trump effectively on substance because they were all obsessed about vindicating Hillary and attributing her loss to Russian Facebook trolls (America has meddled in the elections of nearly every country on the planet to the point where its not all that rare for us to blatantly assassinate a duly elected leader and install a dictator . . . whom we years later decide we need to overthrow on humanitarian grounds by invading the country and reducing it to rubble, but I'm going to get upset about Facebook trolls meddling in OUR elections; how dare they, the nerve!!!!). So democrats were getting their [stuff] together finally and that's when Mueller decides to drop his conclusions???

    And look at the Trump game of attacking Mueller so that all the Democrats run to protect him and look to him as their savior. So now that Mueller claims no crimes, look at the corner the Democrats were boxed into by this scam.

    Do you think that Trump cares that Manafort and a few of his cronies had to be sacrificed to effectuate this scam? Of course not! That's the price some made-men have to pay so that the don stays teflon (those of you not from Jersey or Brooklyn brush up on your Sopranos if you don't follow that sentence).

    Democrats should be rejoicing that this farce is over and start fighting on substance (although too many will want to retreat to "moderation" and be cowed by this). I'm so sick of democrats being dismissive of those fighting for progressive values consistently for decades but keep dreaming of a republican savior; I mean Jeff Flake, some nobody Republican senator from Arizona was a liberal hero for a few months simply because he said one or two reasonable things about Trump. Bob Mueller is a Republican, ex-FBI, ex-prosecutor who stands for nothing that I stand for and I don't care what he says about Trump one way or the other.
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    John Eder
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    Re: What happened to the Russian collusion?

    Sorry, no head explosions- just massive vomit and diaharrea. I’ll forward the carpet cleaning bill to you...

    Quote Posted in reply to the post by ray50sfo: View Post
    Typical totalitarian government response Elder...discredit and demean any opposing (non-acceptable group think opinions).

    Bot, who needs bots when we have mindless "useful idiots" regurgitating the deep state party line?

    Group mind control works.

    Clearly, anyone who disagrees with you is to be feared, discredited, disparaged and done away with as soon as possible.

    No dialogue, no trial, guilty as charged (by you).

    Sort of like what Castro did; kill tens of thousands of those whose ideas threatened him after he took power espousing "power to the people" and "social justice" to his ignorant supporters.

    Thank god you people don't have more power; all Trump supporters and anyone who disagrees with you would be in camps within the week...

    This all reminds me why I moved out of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Sebastopol.

    Too many self-righteous hypocrites.

    Notice, most laws are for controlling your behavior, not the people who make them.

    I bet you can't watch this all the way through without your head exploding.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhAoDE2K1wM

    Have a nice day.
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    TNTfarms
     

    Re: What happened to the Russian collusion?

    Tell me again how many Republican attorneys where again? Other then Mueller, who by all accounts of your media is a stand up guy
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    TNTfarms
     

    Re: What happened to the Russian collusion?

    Eder a typical socialist who wants someone else to pay to clean up his vomit.
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    Sorry for inadvertent public posting re russian collusion stuff

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    Tell me again how many Republican attorneys where again? Other then Mueller, who by all accounts of your media is a stand up guy
    Oh, not discussing this further, but I actually do want to apologize to the list for my second response to you being sent publicly. My first response was certainly appropriate for public posting but my second really was more appropriate for just responding privately because of its tone and breadth of targets. I'm used to family members with completely opposite politics and because of my cultural background/political views divergence I've done things like occupy a logging road by day and shoot the sh*t playing pool with loggers at night in some dive so I don't take these types of discussions personally, and I'm only a member of this "conscious" community bulletin board because I sometimes rent out rooms (I don't even really know what the non-literal meaning of being "conscious" is, but assume my way of discussing politics isn't likely in tune with that, which is why I've never posted here before; though that seems like it could be said for quite a few people on this list).
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    Re: Sorry for inadvertent public posting re russian collusion stuff

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    Oh, not discussing this further, but I actually do want to apologize to the list for my second response to you being sent publicly.
    huh? that was the good one!
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    TNTfarms
     

    Re: What happened to the Russian collusion?

    Good? To print and use to start a fire?

    Still waiting on that evidence Adam shifty says he has. Like ex cia Brennan. Oh well. I thought I had more knowledge and evidence then what's there.

    Add me to your list like AOC.

    Cow farts matter
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    John Eder
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    Re: What happened to the Russian collusion (humorous, but sadly accurate synopsis)?

    In his first new episode of “The Late Show” since Robert Mueller delivered his report to Attorney General Robert Barr, Stephen Colbert did his best to balance frustration with humility.

    “Fair is fair,” he said. “Barr says Mueller says there was no collusion between Trump and Russia, so we have to cross collusion off the list of reasons Trump is unfit to be president.”

    Then Colbert got literal. “Fellas, bring out the board,” he cried, and out came a whiteboard filled with a list of controversial things Trump has said or done.

    Reading through items like “put kids in cages,” “gave security clearance to his son-in-law,” “repeatedly humped flag” and “all that birther stuff,” Colbert eventually found his way to “colluded with Russia,” and erased it. A list with dozens of other items remained.

    Then he flipped the board over, revealing another list on the opposite side. “I really want to be fair to him. I should also cross off ‘Mueller’ from the list of Trump investigations,” Colbert said, now revealing a list of the 17 legal investigations into Trump by New York’s attorney general, various House committees and other government bodies.

    Colbert erased the Mueller investigation from this list. “Sir, it’s gone,” he announced to Trump. “That must be 1/17th of a weight off your shoulders.”


    Not to overlook Jimmy Kimmel: "Basically, Trump got in the White House the same way Lori Loughlin got her kid into USC.”
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    Re: Sorry for inadvertent public posting re russian collusion stuff

    I hope you'll come back again, Eco. Your passion is enlivening. :-)

    Quote Posted in reply to the post by ecojaf: View Post
    Oh, not discussing this further, but I actually do want to apologize to the list for my second response to you being sent publicly. My first response was certainly appropriate for public posting but my second really was more appropriate for just responding privately because of its tone and breadth of targets. I'm used to family members with completely opposite politics and because of my cultural background/political views divergence I've done things like occupy a logging road by day and shoot the sh*t playing pool with loggers at night in some dive so I don't take these types of discussions personally, and I'm only a member of this "conscious" community bulletin board because I sometimes rent out rooms (I don't even really know what the non-literal meaning of being "conscious" is, but assume my way of discussing politics isn't likely in tune with that, which is why I've never posted here before; though that seems like it could be said for quite a few people on this list).
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    Re: What happened to the Russian collusion?

    Everybody needs a therapy room in their home where they can let it all out!!

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    After reading the comments on this topic, I found I was holding my breath, my heart starting to race, and suddenly I stopped, and questioned what's happening in this conversation that we can't all stop and wait until the entire report is submitted to our view? Why take sides and increase the hard feelings? This has been so stressful for everyone who loves democracy, and want to see the facts. So how about a deep breath for every side, wait until we have all the facts, even if we don't like them, or like some of them. I want to see everything so that I can decide for myself. We can't make that decision for each other no matter how hard and loud we scream. Just please, stop with all the anger and hate. We are all better than this.
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    TNTfarms
     

    Re: What happened to the Russian collusion?

    Obama administration not only put kids in so called cages. They also released these kids to human trafficking rings.
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    TNTfarms
     

    Re: What happened to the Russian collusion?

    Should we investigate Obama people for gun running?
    Or lying on national TV about Benghazi..

    Or you can keep your doctor you can keep your plan. The American people will save money by forcing you into the ACA
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    Re: Sorry for inadvertent public posting re russian collusion stuff

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    huh? that was the good one!
    Well, I believe the substance, I just regretted mentioning Senator Clinton's name even in passing (I don't want to be goaded into being divisive on the left for no good reason) and using the adjective "gullible" to describe those that were counting on Mueller because maybe they weren't (and don't know people on this list well enough to be friendly "trash-talking", though where I come from its always appropriate); it was quite a show.

    But those claiming that the Deep State were coming after Trump, now have to ask themselves what does it mean when the DS stops coming after Trump? Is Trump now their boy? I mean he promised all the military families that he would bring their sons and daughters home from our endless wars; and people believed that he actually would take on the military-industrial complex. So maybe those folks were right that the DS had it in for him. So when he announces that he's bringing the troops home from Syria and DS spook Bolton publicly announces the next day that they are not (and they stay), are you asking yourself if the beneficial timing and results of the Mueller report indicate that the DS is now comfortable that Trump is controllable. If you believe a DS conspiracy was behind Mueller investigation then the only plausible conclusion for why the DS would let him off the hook (after making look like his kids were going to do time) is that he's now in the fold.
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    TNTfarms
     

    Re: What happened to the Russian collusion?

    Who said that? Shifty will never let this go. He's in to deep now.

    For the next two years it will still be the same hate trump message from the left. Which in my opinion is great. Cause we will have 4 straight years of the left that did nothing for the American people.

    You brainiacs on the left can't even make a daca deal that trump offered. Cryin Chuck asked for 800k daca to be protected. Trump offers 1.8 million and in return give us some border protection funds.
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    Re: What happened to the Russian collusion?

    Ralph Nader today
    Look How the Real Trump is Endangering America


    Special Counsel Robert Mueller spent almost two years to produce a $25 million report that is a flat tire. Still unreleased in full to the American people, Trump’s acolyte, Attorney General William Barr, a longtime friend of Republican Mueller, gave us what Trump long craved—by stating that “the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities” during the 2016 election. As for obstruction of justice by Trump, Attorney General Barr cryptically burped, that “The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him”—whatever that means. Give people the whole report now, as the House of Representatives voted 420 to 0 to do.

    What a farce and distraction this whole exercise turned out to be! Mueller’s assigned subject was Trump. So, does this prosecutor demand to interview Trump, to subpoena Trump? No. Does this special investigator conclude with any legal recommendations at all? No. He just wants to be forgotten as he slinks away into deliberate silence (unless he is made to testify before the House Judiciary Committee).

    Really, what should we have expected from someone who, as FBI Director, testified before Congress as part of the Bush/Cheney regime, pushing for the criminal invasion of Iraq in 2003?

    The assignment to Mueller was doomed from the start. Its charge was far too narrow and proof in such matters is very difficult to find. Intent to collude requires direct examination of the President himself. But why would Trump have to collude at all? The Russians interfered in his favor in various ways to the detriment of Hillary Clinton and all he had to do was accept such foreign largess.

    An inquiry into Trump and all his business deals and business proposals with various governments point to Trump’s disregard for the law. By the way, whatever happened to the IRS audit that Tricky Donald kept using as an excuse in 2016 for not releasing these voluminous tax records depicting suspicious relations that Pulitzer Prize winner David Cay Johnston has written about for years (see his book The Making of Donald Trump)?

    Continues here
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    Re: What happened to the Russian collusion?

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    ....I bet you can't watch this all the way through without your head exploding.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhAoDE2K1wM
    coincidentally I was reading from the lying MSM and found this relevant bit:

    Quote Hannity should do a little reading. On Oct. 31, 2016 — one week before the presidential election — the New York Times published an influential story under this headline: “Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia.”
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    Re: Sorry for inadvertent public posting re russian collusion stuff

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    (I) don't know people on this list well enough to be friendly "trash-talking", though where I come from its always appropriate); ......

    But those claiming that the Deep State were coming after Trump, now have to ask themselves what does it mean when the DS stops coming after Trump? Is Trump now their b(...)? .... If you believe a DS conspiracy was behind Mueller investigation then the only plausible conclusion for why the DS would let him off the hook (after making look like his kids were going to do time) is that he's now in the fold.
    as for avoiding trash-talking on this group, I think that ship has sailed a long time ago :)
    I do like DS conspiracies, though (as compared to chemtrails etc. which make no sense). Most DS conspiracies go so far that they're not credible, but if you keep it modest you can make a plausible case for them. I don't really believe them for a minute, but they can be fun. I think it's far more plausible that these people are all 'family' (e.g. the press-club dinner, anyone?) and swimming in the same sewer outflow, breathing the same water, that they don't even notice their own 'collusion'. They're mostly all members of the same club and act like it. Stray too far and you do get censured/ostracized, but no-one has to be direct about it or even really acknowledge that's what's going on. Trump was never a member in good standing, though he was one by birth, so he gets a bit of the rougher treatment. And deserves it.
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    Re: What happened to the Russian collusion?

    Why is everyone on both sides jumping to conclusions about the Mueller report when nobody except Trump's hand picked Attorney General has even read it? Even the AG's synopsis doesn't claim that Trump has been "exonerated" by this report. Now comes the struggle between Congress and the AG regarding delayed submission and redaction...

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    You're amusing; you know very well that the Mueller investigation was a Republican scam and distraction foisted on gullible liberals, and NOT a progressive effort.

    Look at the timing of the release of this: "moderate" Republicans were just finally feeling compelled to stand up to Trump's BS and a dozen of them voted against his "emergency declaration" and Democrats were finally clearing their eyes of their little visions of sugarplums of a Republican ex-FBI prosecutor coming to save them and doing some real work, and of course that all gets derailed by the release of the Mueller report.

    And this is after 2 years of Democrats failing to fight Trump effectively on substance because they were all obsessed about vindicating Hillary and attributing her loss to Russian Facebook trolls (America has meddled in the elections of nearly every country on the planet to the point where its not all that rare for us to blatantly assassinate a duly elected leader and install a dictator . . . whom we years later decide we need to overthrow on humanitarian grounds by invading the country and reducing it to rubble, but I'm going to get upset about Facebook trolls meddling in OUR elections; how dare they, the nerve!!!!). So democrats were getting their [stuff] together finally and that's when Mueller decides to drop his conclusions???

    And look at the Trump game of attacking Mueller so that all the Democrats run to protect him and look to him as their savior. So now that Mueller claims no crimes, look at the corner the Democrats were boxed into by this scam.

    Do you think that Trump cares that Manafort and a few of his cronies had to be sacrificed to effectuate this scam? Of course not! That's the price some made-men have to pay so that the don stays teflon (those of you not from Jersey or Brooklyn brush up on your Sopranos if you don't follow that sentence).

    Democrats should be rejoicing that this farce is over and start fighting on substance (although too many will want to retreat to "moderation" and be cowed by this). I'm so sick of democrats being dismissive of those fighting for progressive values consistently for decades but keep dreaming of a republican savior; I mean Jeff Flake, some nobody Republican senator from Arizona was a liberal hero for a few months simply because he said one or two reasonable things about Trump. Bob Mueller is a Republican, ex-FBI, ex-prosecutor who stands for nothing that I stand for and I don't care what he says about Trump one way or the other.
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