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    Jaylo
     

    Hacking the Vote?

    1) Are the methods of hacking the vote presented below actually possible in the United States as they appear to be?

    2) Why are basic voting issues such as gerrymandering, types of voter suppression, and hacking the vote
    not being reported and talked about more widely?

    Some apparently old but still relevant information about hacking the vote for those interested:

    Black Box Voting: (Bev Harris)
    https://blackboxvoting.org/

    “Harris is a writer whose investigations into the secret world of voting equipment firms have led some to call her ‘the Erin Brockovich of elections.’ Her facts check out. Her stories on voting machines are based not on her politics but on serious, in-depth investigative reporting. ”
    Salon.com

    Vote Fraud Smoking Gun Banned from CNN, FOX and NBC (6 min. 6/10/08) Still relevant.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdzlnwWsAAU

    Us Elections Rigged, Congressional testimony (12min.,2/27/16)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nafAbO5qRrU

    Fraction Magic, Detail Vote Rigging Demonstration (24:39 min., 10/31/16)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fob-...ature=youtu.be

    Hacking Democracy (documentary by Bev Harris) (movie trailer 2 min.)
    https://www.hackingdemocracy.com/

    "The Supreme Court Gutted the Voter Rights Act. What Happened in these 8 States Will Not Shock You."
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...preme-court-id
    https://www.gregpalast.com/rolling-s...an-steal-vote/

    The Best Democracy Money Can Buy (Greg Palast, Video trailer about Crosscheck, 3min., feature on demand)
    https://vimeo.com/ondemand/bestdemocracy/

    Crosscheck Explained (Greg Palast, short 4 min. video/ list of 7,200,00 voters!)
    https://thebestdemocracymoneycanbuy.com/petition/
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    Re: Hacking the Vote?

    Yes just like in 2000, the election of 2016 was almost certainly systematically “rigged”.

    On KPFA, Flashpoints December 14, 2016 episode titled “Election Crimes Bulletin Ep. 25 & Ralph Nader’s Latest Speech”.

    https://kpfa.org/episode/flashpoints-december-14-2016/

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    1) Are the methods of hacking the vote presented below actually possible in the United States as they appear to be?

    2) Why are basic voting issues such as gerrymandering, types of voter suppression, and hacking the vote
    not being reported and talked about more widely?
    Last edited by Hotspring 44; 12-17-2016 at 03:25 PM. Reason: changed 2004 to 2000 for accuracy
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    Jaylo
     

    Re: Hacking the Vote?

    The Real Story of The Recount, Columbus Free Press, 1/4/17
    https://columbusfreepress.com/articl...-story-recount

    a small quote:
    "Jill Stein’s multi-state presidential recount was unprecedented. The idea originated from a group of computer scientists represented by attorney John Bonifaz, who after analyzing the U.S. computerized voting system found it to be vulnerable to hacking and manipulation. Social scientists and statisticians deemed some of the 2016 election results to be improbable. Election integrity volunteers and attorneys stepped up to help sort it out.

    Jill Stein, Green Party presidential candidate, agreed to ask for recounts in three states: Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. The donation page went online the afternoon before Thanksgiving. The recount was quickly financed in a few weeks by 150,000 small donors at the grassroots level across the political spectrum.
    But if you were watching Fox News or reading Facebook during the recount you would think Stein, with a suspicious and nefarious agenda, was at best working undercover for the Clinton campaign or at worst, involved in a political payola campaign scam to enrich herself.
    In reality, she was using the U.S. State Department and U.S. Agency on International Development (USAID) standards of election integrity that every democratic country on the planet is held to – except the United States."

    That standard is simple: If there is a significant mismatch between exit poll numbers and official vote totals, it is assumed something is amiss. In the case of this November’s presidential election, 13 states had exit poll-vote total mismatches that raised red flags with discrepancies that were far outside the margin of error. Twelve went for Trump and one for Clinton.

    In the Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Florida exit polls, Clinton was ahead but Trump won the official vote count. In fact, in 24 out of 28 states there was a shift to Trump. This wouldn’t happen except once in every 52,440 presidential elections. Statisticians predict that this should be more evenly divided between the two candidates. All three states chosen for the recount admitted errors in their official vote counts, all in Trump’s favor.

    Stein raised $7.3 million for the recount, all funds being segregated in a special bank account overseen by the Federal Elections Commission to be spent only on the recount. Her costs are estimated to be $7.4 million.
    Bonifaz and the computer scientist group also approached Clinton to challenge the suspicious election results, but she declined to act.

    Trump campaign super PACs and state officials did everything they could to block an actual valid recount. Bruce Dixon, writing for Black Agenda Report, summed it up best: “U.S. elections are intentionally and fundamentally broken and rigged, recount-proof and audit-proof; . . . state and federal courts are willing to issue patently absurd rulings from the bench to keep it that way.”
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