Documentary about medical policy makers and big pharma needs to go viral. Jude
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Documentary about medical policy makers and big pharma needs to go viral. Jude
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Fact-checking ‘Plandemic’: A documentary full of false conspiracy theories about the coronavirus
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The Falsehoods of the ‘Plandemic’ Video
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Seen 'Plandemic'? We Take A Close Look At The Viral Conspiracy Video's Claims
Barry, Richard Eli, Mary Abbott, get a clue: posting a rebuttal by a "Fact-Check" site or NPR does not constitute a well thought-out argument. Fact-Check sites are there to enforce herd mentality & Orwellian group-think-fullness. Fact-Check sites -& NPR- are organized and set up and subsidized by the Tax-exempt Foundations, where the Super-Rich, posing as benefactors, park their money in order to get more bang for their bucks.
Remember: (It is a Systemic fact & not a "Conspiracy") that the power elite own the Media. The Corporations that own the Media also have interlocking directorates with the Corporations that are known, collectively as "Big Pharma." It is all one big melange of dirty capitalism.
ENOUGH. STOP GIVING UP OUR RIGHTS, INCLUDING FREE SPEECH!!! Jude
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Fact-checking Judy Mikovits, the controversial virologist attacking Anthony Fauci in a viral conspiracy video
By Martin Enserink, Jon CohenMay. 8, 2020 , 6:20 PM
In a video that has exploded on social media in the past few days, virologist Judy Mikovits claims the new coronavirus is being wrongly blamed for many deaths. She makes head-scratching assertions about the virus—for instance, that it is “activated” by face masks.
Mikovits also accuses Anthony Fauci, head of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and a prominent member of the White House’s Coronavirus Task Force, of being responsible for the deaths of millions during the early years of the HIV/AIDS pandemic. The video claims Mikovits was part of the team that discovered HIV, revolutionized HIV treatment, and was jailed without charges for her scientific positions.
Science fact-checked the video. None of these claims are true.
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For Those Who Doubt the Plandemic Movie
(Research by Juls Hamrick)
I researched some of the “facts” going around claiming to have “debunked” the movie, which are being regurgitated by many who prefer to remain asleep and won’t put the effort in to research things themselves. Here is what I found along with all of my supporting sources.
1. Dr. Anthony Fauci has worked at the National Institute of Health (NIH) since 1968 and has been a Director with the organization since 1984, “both as a scientist and as the head of the NIAID at the NIH”. A simple Wikipedia search resolved that one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci
2. The NIH was one of the institutions funding the original study published in 10/23/2009, which Dr. Mikovits participated in and makes reference to in the Plandemic movie. Dr. Fauci worked at and continues to work at the NIH, one of the primary financial contributors to the study as one of it’s most senior directors, so you can indeed say that Dr. Judy Mikovits was in fact working for Dr. Fauci. I have downloaded the complete original study and saved for you to access here (highlights on page 3 denote Dr. Judy Mikovits’s participation and her employing firm) (highlights on page 6 indicate the institutions which provided the funding for the study):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MUV...WupbgIj-K/view
3. The study was challenged in 2010, when other researches could not replicate their findings and in September 2010, the original team, inclusive of Dr. Judy Mikovits issued an official response supporting their work.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MUV...WupbgIj-K/view
4. After which the original study was partially and then subsequently fully retracted (a very rare move in science). The partial retraction document states that two of the co-authors, Robert Silverman and Das Gupta (whom the original study listed as working for the Department of Cancer Biology) re-analyzed the samples they used and discovered that they had been contaminated. Please refer back to the first link provided herein, for item #1 showing the original study, indicates on the document that it has since been retracted.
5. That she was arrested and a quote from the prosecuting district attorney, that said the charges were dropped because "there were issues with the witnesses".
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012...-judy-mikovits
6. In September 2012, Dr. Judy Mikovits and a team of other scientists conducted another study replicating the original one and published their findings, ultimately resolving the scientific communities dispute over the original work.
https://twp.duke.edu/sites/twp.duke....1441.full_.pdf
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012...tigue-syndrome
https://mbio.asm.org/content/3/5/e00266-12
7. As previously shared in another post, Dr. Fauci does in fact hold a large number of patents related to HIV (as Dr. Judy Mikovits states in the video). He also holds numerous patents related to the Novel Coronavirus.
https://patents.justia.com/search?q=Anthony+Fauci
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB113383825463714813
Other Interesting and Related Facts:
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has appointed Dr. Anthony Fauci to their Vaccination Action Plan.
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/Medi...-Collaboration
Bill Gates personally owns a number vaccine related patents (amongst many other interesting and unrelated patents):
https://patents.justia.com/inventor/william-gates
Pirbright, a company funded by The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation owns European protecting replication of a variant gene of an avian infectious bronchitis virus.
European Patent# 3 172 319 B1 https://data.epo.org/publication-server/pdf-document...
Here is proof that Pirbright is in fact funded by The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/How-.../11/OPP1098099
Pirbright also a US patent on the Coronavirus (you will need to scroll down quite a bit to see the owner and inventor they really covered every base on this patent.
https://patents.justia.com/patent/10130701
Vanderbilt University owns a large number of Coronavirus vaccine patents:
https://patents.justia.com/patent/7452542
https://patents.justia.com/patent/7452542
Dr. Anthony Fauci and the Director of Vanderbilt University go back.. Here you see them lobbying together:
https://news.vumc.org/tag/anthony-fauci/
Here it mentions how they went to college together:
https://news.vumc.org/tag/anthony-fauci/
Also as previously shared in another post, the polio vaccines the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation tested on children in the Africa, causing an outbreak of Polio from the vaccine itself and paralysis on the children.
https://thebulletin.org/2018/07/vaccine-causing-polio-in-africa-context-from-an-expert/#
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I originally saw this missive Here, at the facebook page of Truthstream Media.
The links, however have been spiked since the poster posted it on May 8
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There is no contradiction between the links that are listed below, and the fact that the issue was "resolved." Your words, Barry, "flawed and withdrawn" puts a spin on the issue. Why is it of critical importance to you, Barry, that this woman be discredited? Have you even listened to the 25 minutes of the video, "Plandemic, Part One" ??
In my opinion, there is no voice that is without significance. And, as the DESIDERATA said, "Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, event the dull and ignorant; they too have their story."
As I perceive Dr. Judy Mikovits, she is doing just that, "speaking her truth quietly and clearly." Why can you not perceive this? -Why must you go along with the mob of 'debunkers' who seek to crucify her? -What is it about Dr. Anthony Fauci which compels you to defend him?
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Even free speech of necessity has limits, Jude. Think about it: particularly virulent hate speech grounded in misogyny, racism, anti-semitism, disinformation, etc There could even be a case for epistemological responsibility*, although that's probably more a personal matter. So lighten up, please.
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O really, wisewomn? So now, just because of the Coronavirus Crisis you are ready to speak for the rest of us that it is time for us to relinquish our Civil Rights? Sorry, but this one ain't going for it.
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Perhaps you can site some example of "particularly virulent hate speech grounded in misogyny, racism, anti-semitism, disinformation, etc" in the Movie "Plandemic" -OR- in the words of Professor Francis Boyle -Or- in the words of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. -OR- in the Molecular Research on Covid-19 of Dr. Luc Montagnier - who received the Nobel Prize for mapping the DNA of HIV ? - All of which have been relegated to the "Conspiracy" department here at WaccoBB?
Nope, I ain't going for it. One of my earliest memory is sitting in our parlor hearing Odetta, Barbara Dane, Rolf Cahn, Jo Mapes and Frank Robinson singing a rousing rendition of "Oh Freedom !". They were practicing for a series of Folk Concerts that were intended to raise money for the Defense Fund of Guido Daunic, the Dutch Lutenist who brought Flamenco Music to North Beach after the Second World War. He was in the process of being extradicted by the INS {shades of ICE today?} for the crime of having been in the Dutch Underground during the War...
That's my Religion. Before I'd be a slave, I'll be buried in my grave.
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Nothing like Big Pharma-funded representatives stating their opinions. How many bribes and threats of loss of jobs or lives have these people experienced?
Big Pharma controls the med schools, pays universities for slanted grants and withdraws when it isn't....funnel millions to lawmakers and politicians. Billionaires with big ideas are privatizing American Science https://digitalimpact.org/billionair...rican-science/
Corruption isn't even the proper word for all that they have done in tracking them for over 35 years. I wonder who funds AAAS? Their donors aren't shared.
I remember when this bulletin board use to question Big Pharma, Big Tech, Big Telecom, Big Oil etc Look at how many of these corporate structures destroy people's lives by lying up their ying-yang? Let's think about those they have attempted or did destroy...Standing Rock...Karen Silkwood...Snowden...Binney...Hastings....Assange....Risen... Kiriakou...Barret Browning...Chris Hedges...Sherron Watkins...Zack Vorhies, and the list goes on and on. Remember 'Economic Hitman' by Perkins?
The level of censorship surpasses anything that occurred during the McCarthy era. Anything that differentiates from the official narrative has become dangerous. Why can't people think for themselves in what they choose to listen to or watch? Why does Big Brother have to tell us how to breathe? 1984 has been selling heavily lately. You tube is taking down sites that says that Vit C helps people.
Dr. Mikovits spent 2 years in jail with a 5 yr gag order and no charges ever pressed. I guess this must have been fun to put her life and career in a noose and not give in to Fauci's blackmailing. This happens to whistleblowers. All anyone has to do is watch the videos to know the truth she is sharing instead of opinion pieces paid for by Big Pharma. You can see it in her eyes in what she has gone through. I have actually followed her case since 2011 when it happened. But most of you reading this on this forum will just snore and think the msm is the Supreme Divinity of truth and reporting. Hmmm...oh well..
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Lighten up yourself. This is a local community forum which has no chance of changing the world. Just because a post is too wacco for you? Hopefully we are here to educate ourselves. Social media is a dangerous place, here, I hope, the only danger is getting banned by berry. I think you're old enough to know that sometimes... conspiracy theories are true. The virus is new, we're all just guessing. I trust that we will know in time the mistakes we are making now. 2020=hindsight.
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Google Drive takes down user’s personal copy of Judy Mikovits’ Plandemic after it was flagged by The Washington Post
https://reclaimthenet.org/google-dri...ile-plandemic/
Barry HAS a clue Mark,just be patient and be glad we canb see this SOMEWHERE ok?
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SO where can I go to SEE this controversial movie ! Theses nothing like prohibition to make me want to be FREE to judge for myself!! ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
sorry I missed it I was delusional and thought I was in a fwee countrie .....GRRRRRRR
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nico,
was just about to - and will - post an article about censorship of other health news... so, glad you asked about this.
in your search engine (ditch Google: Ecosia is best cause it's free, protects your privacy AND plants trees with profits!!!)
just write"Plandemic" and "watch" and then take your pick of sites making it available for us folks who do want to watch and make up our own minds.
YouTube has been censoring both overtly (deleting) and covertly (skewing numbers and algorythyms which bring up similar content) ever increasingly during this virus time. NOT COINCIDENCE. "For your own good" is the official line. HA. Follow the money.
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Nico, Here is one site - BITCHUTE- where we can still see the 26-minute abridged version. Watch the whole thing. Beginning @ 10:00 there is some interesting footage where Judy Mikovits answers a few Questions, and addresses the issue of whether or not this virus - SARS-COV-2 - came from a Lab. -And if so, which one. Her response supplies one solution to the Question of whether it was a Chinese Lab =OR= an American Lab. Her Answer indicates and suggests that it was a Joint Operation.Quote:
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Four Ko-Ti's in a Nutshell:
1. (If A is B), A is B
2. A cannot be both B and not B
3. A is either B or not B
4. A is neither B nor not B
The Truth About Fauci—Featuring Dr. Judy Mikovits
By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Chairman,
Children’s Health Defense
April 20, 2020
“Judy Mikovits is Among Her Generation’s Most Accomplished Scientists.”
—Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
Dr. Mikovits joined NIH in 1980 as a Postdoctoral Scholar in Molecular Virology at the National Cancer Institute and began a 20-year collaboration with Frank Ruscetti, a pioneer in the field of human retro virology. She helped Dr Russetti isolate the HIV virus and link it to #AIDS in 1983. Her NIH boss Anthony Fauci delayed publication of that critical paper for 6 months to let his protégé Robert Gallo replicate, publish and claim credit. The delay in mass HIV testing let AIDS further spread around the globe and helped Fauci win promotion to director NIAID.
In 2006, Dr Mikovits became director of Whittemore Peterson Institute for Neuro-Immune Disease and collaborated with Dr Ruscetti searching for the cause of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome which suddenly became epidemic in the 1980s. The male dominated medical community dismissed CFS as psychosomatic “yuppie flu” caused when fragile females cracked in corporate jobs.
Dr. Mikovits discovered that 67% of affected women carried a virus—called Xenotropic Murine Leukemia related Virus—that appeared in healthy women only 4% of the time.
XMRV is also associated with prostate, breast, ovarian cancers, leukemia, and multiple myeloma. Many women with XMRV bore children with autism.
In 2009, Drs. Mikovits and Ruscetti published their explosive findings in the journal Science. But the question remained: how was XMRV getting into people?
Other researchers linked the first CFS outbreak to a polio vaccine given to doctors and nurses that resulted in the “1934 Los Angeles County Hospital Epidemic.” That vaccine was cultivated on pulverized mouse brains. Retroviruses from dead animals can survive in cell lines and permanently contaminate vaccines.
Dr Mikovits’ studies suggested that the XMRV Virus was present in the MMR, Polio and Encephalitis vaccines given to American children and soldiers. XMRV is so hazardous that the mere presence of mouse tissue in a laboratory can contaminate other tissues in the same room.
Dr Fauci ordered Mikovits to keep her mouth shut. When she refused, he illegally confiscated her work books and hard drives, drove her from government work and blackballed her from receiving NIH grants ending her science career. XMRV remains in American vaccines.
Video Transcript
The Truth About Fauci, featuring Judy Mikovits, Joint PhD in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, George Washington University; Postdoctoral Scholar in Molecular Virology National Cancer Institute; Research Director of Whittemore Peterson Institute for Neuro-Immune Disease and target of Anthony Fauci—Twice.
In Washington DC Fauci’s tactics are an open secret. Intimidation. Bullying. And reckless disregard for the health and safety of the American people.
Dr. Judy Mikovits was one of the most skilled scientists of her generation. She had a 20-year collaboration with Frank Ruscetti, a pioneer in the field of human retro virology.
The first Fauci episode:
Mikovits: I took a job at the National Cancer Institute. I was under the direction of Frank Ruscetti. I isolated HIV from blood and saliva confirming Dr. Luc Montagnier’s earlier isolation and description of HIV as a possible causative agent of AIDS. I refused to do that because it’s unethical.
And then, Anthony Fauci intervened.
Mikovits: When Frank Ruscetti was out of town, I received a call from Dr. Fauci and he demanded that I give him our manuscript on the isolation and confirmation of HIV, while it was still in press. I refused to do that because it’s unethical. These manuscripts are confidential and only authors can give him a copy.
Dr. Mikovits’ standards of ethics and moral courage are unparalleled
Mikovits: He threatened to fire me for insubordination but still I refused. It’s unethical.
Mikovits: When Frank Ruscetti returned a few weeks later, he gave the manuscript to Dr. Fauci, and Dr. Fauci purposely delayed the publication of our manuscript in order that his crony, Dr. Robert Gallo, could copy our work and submit a competing manuscript and get it into press before ours.
On May 4, 1984, Dr. Robert Gallo famously published a series of papers demonstrating that a retrovirus he’d isolated was the cause of AIDS.
Appropriating her work wasn’t the worst of it. This delayed the development of testing and spread the HIV epidemic through the world, killing millions.
Driven by greed and cronyism, Anthony Fauci—”America’s Doctor”—is directly responsible for the further spread of HIV throughout the world.
Rather than being punished for his actions, six months later he was appointed Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases–a position he still holds today.
The second Fauci episode:
Mikovits: In 2006 I co-founded and developed the first neuro-immune disease institute to study the cause and treatments of chronic fatigue syndrome.
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome became epidemic in the 1980s. Doctors dismissed the ailment as psychosomatic “yuppie flu.” CFS primarily struck women. The medical community assumed they were physically and emotionally fragile and cracked under the pressure of corporate jobs.
Dr. Mikovits discovered that 67% of women affected with CFS carried a mouse virus–called XMRV– Xenotropic Murine Leukemia related Virus–that appeared in healthy women only 4% of the time. XMRV is also associated with cancers like prostate, breast, ovarian, leukemia, and multiple myeloma. Many women with XMRV go on to have children with autism.
In 2009, Drs. Mikovits and Ruscetti published their explosive findings in the journal Science. But the question remained: how was XMRV getting into people?
Other researchers linked the first CFS outbreak to a polio vaccine given to doctors and nurses that resulted in the “1934 Los Angeles County Hospital Epidemic.” That vaccine was cultivated on pulverized mouse brains. Retroviruses from dead animals can survive in cell lines and permanently contaminate vaccines.
Retroviruses from those dead animals can survive in cell lines and permanently contaminate the vaccines.
XMRV is so hazardous that the mere presence of mouse tissue in a laboratory can contaminate other tissues in the same room.
Dr. Mikovits’ studies suggested XMRV is present in the MMR and polio vaccines given to American children and the Japanese encephalitis vaccine given to military personnel.
The dangers of mouse brain derived vaccines are now widely acknowledged.
“… mouse brain derived vaccine has been associated with serious allergic and neurologic adverse events.” –American Academy of Pediatrics
Mikovits: Then in 2011, our research strongly suggested that it entered the human virome through a contaminated blood supply and vaccines.
Mikovits: We recognized that this mouse retrovirus was causing an alarming national health crisis. That is if the blood supply and vaccines were heavily contaminated with mouse retroviruses of many strains.
As Dr. Mikovits and her team prepared to sound the alarm, Dr. Fauci used his power to silence her.
Mikovits: What Tony Fauci, Ian Lipkin and Harold Varmus did was pressure me to be silent and withdraw our manuscript. I refused again.
Anthony Fauci gave his own career and the vaccine program priority above the health and safety of all Americans.
Mikovits: When I refused to be silent, Dr. Fauci stepped in and ordered that my computers and notebooks be confiscated and orchestrated the retraction of our Science paper.
Dr. Fauci abused his power and misused his office.
Mikovits: He then removed all of my funding and prevented me from getting a job in government research from 2012 forward.
Hundreds of millions of Americans may have received vaccines contaminated with XMRV.
Anthony Fauci has failed us.
Are you prepared to trust him?
Join the movement.
Robert Kennedy, vaccine skeptic, weighs in on science.
Here is what *Science* the magazine has to say about Dr Mikovits:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...ny-fauci-viral
Fact-checking Judy Mikovits, the controversial virologist attacking Anthony Fauci in a viral conspiracy video In a video that has exploded on social media in the past few days, virologist Judy Mikovits claims the new coronavirus is being wrongly blamed for many deaths. She makes head-scratching assertions about the virus—for instance, that it is “activated” by face masks.
By Martin Enserink, Jon Cohen
Mikovits also accuses Anthony Fauci, head of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and a prominent member of the White House’s Coronavirus Task Force, of being responsible for the deaths of millions during the early years of the HIV/AIDS pandemic. The video claims Mikovits was part of the team that discovered HIV, revolutionized HIV treatment, and was jailed without charges for her scientific positions.
Science fact-checked the video. None of these claims are true. The video is an excerpt from a forthcoming movie Plandemic, which promises to “expose the scientific and political elite who run the scam that is our global health system.” YouTube, Facebook, and other platforms have taken down the video because of inaccuracies. It keeps resurfacing, including on the Plandemic website, which, in “an effort to bypass the gatekeepers of free speech,” invites people to download the video and repost it.
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Science asked Mikovits for an interview for this article. She responded by sending an empty email with, as attachments, a copy of her new book and a PowerPoint of a 2019 presentation titled “Persecution and Coverup.”
Below are some of the video’s main claims and allegations, along with the facts.
Interviewer: Dr. Judy Mikovits has been called one of the most accomplished scientists of her generation.
Mikovits had authored 40 scientific papers and wasn’t widely known in the scientific community before she published the 2009 Science paper claiming a link between a new retrovirus and CFS. The paper was later proven erroneous and retracted.
Interviewer: Her 1991 doctoral thesis revolutionized the treatment of HIV/AIDS.
Mikovits’s Ph.D. thesis, “Negative Regulation of HIV Expression in Monocytes,” had no discernible impact on the treatment of HIV/AIDS.
Interviewer: At the height of her career, Dr. Mikovits published a blockbuster article in the journal Science. The controversial article sent shock waves through the scientific community, as it revealed that the common use of animal and human fetal tissues was unleashing devastating plagues of chronic diseases.
The paper revealed nothing of the sort; it only claimed to show a link between one condition, CFS, and a mouse retrovirus.
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Interviewer: If we activate mandatory vaccines globally, I imagine these people stand to make hundreds of billions of dollars that own the vaccines.
Mikovits: And they’ll kill millions, as they already have with their vaccines. There is no vaccine currently on the schedule for any RNA virus that works.
Vaccines have not killed millions; they have saved millions of lives. Many vaccines that work against RNA viruses are on the market, including for influenza, measles, mumps, rubella, rabies, yellow fever, and Ebola.
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The above statements show Dr. Mikovitz to be a serial fabulist, that is, a person who invents elaborate dishonest stories.
Any idea where the money came from to produce *Plandemic*? Was it from Russia? Asking for a friend.
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Robert Kennedy, vaccine skeptic, weighs in on science.
Here is what *Science* the magazine has to say about Dr Mikovits:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...ny-fauci-viral
Fact-checking Judy Mikovits, the controversial virologist attacking Anthony Fauci in a viral conspiracy video In a video that has exploded on social media in the past few days, virologist Judy Mikovits claims the new coronavirus is being wrongly blamed for many deaths. She makes head-scratching assertions about the virus—for instance, that it is “activated” by face masks.
By Martin Enserink, Jon Cohen
Yep, that's Jon Cohen. He writes for "Science" - the Magazine. Got that right, Richard. And he is always ready and willing to write puff pieces and be a booster - and run interference for - the wonderful, selfless, philanthropic projects of Bill Gates & Co....
NIH and Gates Foundation lay out ambitious plan to bring
gene-based treatments for HIV and sickle cell disease to Africa
By Jon Cohen, Jocelyn Kaiser
Oct. 23, 2019 , 5:00 PM
Two major U.S. biomedical research funders plan to each put at least $100 million over 4 years toward bringing cutting-edge, gene-based treatments to a part of the world that often struggles to provide access to even basic medicines: sub-Saharan Africa. The National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation today announced the unusual collaboration to launch clinical trials for gene-based cures for HIV and sickle cell disease within the region in the coming decade.
The ambitious goal is to steer clear of expensive, logistically impractical strategies that require stem cell transplantation, and instead develop simpler, affordable ways of delivering genes or gene-editing drugs that can cure these diseases. “Yes, this is audacious,” NIH Director Francis Collins said during a press teleconference this morning on the project. “But if we don’t put our best minds, resources, and visions together right now, we would not live up to our mandate to bring the best science to those who are suffering.”
After decades of work and setbacks, the traditional gene therapy approach of delivering DNA into the body to replace a defective gene or boost a protein’s production is now reaching the clinic for several diseases, including inherited blindness, neuromuscular disease, and leukemia. Animal studies and some clinical trials have suggested that two diseases prevalent in Africa, HIV and sickle cell disease, can be treated by gene therapies or newer genome-editing tools such as CRISPR.
But in most cases, introducing those therapeutic genes or the components of a genome editor involves removing stem cells from the body, adding or modifying genes, then reinfusing the cells back into the body. That is essentially a stem cell transplant with one’s own cells, an expensive procedure that is also typically risky because physicians wipe out a patient’s existing stem cells with chemotherapy so the corrected cells can engraft and grow. It remains out of reach for most people in sub-Saharan Africa, where few places have the medical infrastructure to support such intensive interventions.
Yet sub-Saharan Africa is home to about two-thirds of the 20 million people with sickle cell disease and the 38 million living with HIV. The NIH-Gates partnership “is an incredible opportunity to find new therapies and possible cures for two diseases that affect millions of Africans and to make them available at affordable costs,” said Matshidiso Moeti, who heads the Regional Office for Africa at the World Health Organization.
Anthony Fauci, director of NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, noted that if this collaboration pans out, it could also lead to enormous cost savings. “If we do successfully achieve an HIV cure, it will ultimately be important not only for millions of individuals with HIV, but also will save hundreds of billions of dollars in health care costs,” said Fauci, whose institute already funds a major HIV cure initiative.
In sickle cell disease, which involves a defect in the oxygen-carrying hemoglobin in red blood cells, several ongoing gene therapy and gene-editing clinical trials in the United States and Europe are either adding a new hemoglobin gene to cells or turning on the gene for a fetal form of the protein. Other clinical trials for HIV have used CRISPR or other genome editors in stem cells to cripple a receptor, CCR5, that the virus depends on to establish infection.
Instead of modifying a person’s stem cells and transplanting them back, the new collaboration will seek to ferry a therapeutic gene or gene-editing tools directly into the body (in vivo) with “vectors” such as harmless viruses or nanoparticles, Collins said. The treatment itself would be similar to a simple blood transfusion. Although studies are already underway with viral vectors that deliver new genes to certain tissues in people, in vivo gene therapy has only been used to modify blood stem cells in animal models of certain diseases. Figuring out how to home in on and modify those cells in people “is a big part” of the collaboration’s plan, Collins said.
Hematologist Alexis Thompson of the Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine in Chicago, Illinois, who is involved with some sickle cell gene therapy trials, calls the NIH-Gates collaboration “phenomenal.” But, she says, a more urgent need is to expand efforts to screen newborns in Africa for sickle cell disease and treat them with antibiotics; at the moment, the majority die before age 5 from bacterial infections because the sickled cells impair the spleen’s ability to filter bacteria and make antibodies. Unless more children with sickle cell disease mutations survive longer, there will be few to be cured with the new gene-based treatments, Thompson says. “It’s almost being able to crawl or walk before you sprint.” (Gates and NIH say they plan to support screening efforts outside of the new collaboration.)
For HIV, a big impetus for the cure push builds on two people infected with the AIDS virus who were cured with stem cell transplants. These two men each had blood cancers that required the transplants, which intentionally used blood from donors who had white blood cells with crippled CCR5 receptors. After the transplants, whatever HIV remained in these men could not enter new host cells, and their infections petered out. This new initiative hopes to speed development of direct injections of gene editor components that can target the CCR5 gene in blood cells and cripple it. “The potential beauty of in vivo gene editing is that it might be given ultimately as a single shot, curing everyone in a scalable manner,” says Steven Deeks, a leading HIV cure researcher at the University of California, San Francisco.
The collaboration will also try to speed development of more experimental interventions that directly excise HIV’s genetic material from a patient’s cells or allow people to artificially make superpotent antibodies against the virus. “This might be science fiction now, but one day may be a real possibility,” Deeks says.
In other words, Let's use the Africans as Guinea Pigs - Again...
WATCH: Plandemic II: Indoctornation – The Second
Covid-19 Film by the World’s Most Censored Filmmaker
August 18, 2020
Vic Bishop, Staff Writer
Waking Times
If you recall, when this Coronavirus disaster hit the world, many independent journalists and media companies began to look at all sides of the issue, asking big questions about the origins of the crisis and of the validity of the lock down approach.
In May, Plandemic, a film by Mikki Willis, became one of the most censored films of all time. The information presented by scientist Judy Mikovits was instantly deemed to be false by the information captains of the web, and within hours of it hitting social media it was being banned for violating community guidelines.
Then the film was broadly attacked by mainstream media, and NPR let it’s audience know that the film was not suitable material for them.
“A slickly produced 26-minute video called Plandemic has exploded on social media in recent days, claiming to present a view of COVID-19 that differs from the “official” narrative.The video has been viewed millions of times on YouTube via links that are replaced as quickly as the video-sharing service can remove them for violating its policy against “COVID-19 misinformation.”
In it, filmmaker Mikki Willis conducts an uncritical interview with Judy Mikovits, who he says has been called “one of the most accomplished scientists of her generation.” ~NPR
Released today, Plandemic II Indoctornation, covers this censorship and the all out media assault on information about Covid-19.Plandemic II: Indoctornation
Here at Waking Times, we believe that people should have the freedom to think for themselves, and to make conclusions and decisions for themselves, which is just not possible when one side of a story is deliberately blocked from the public.
Watch it here now at Ben Swann’s ISE Media:
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You guys are all about the money, so riddle me this, who pays for this "slickly produced" horse shit?
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calling something as easily available as this video is "most censored" doesn't add to its credibility. Sounds more like what a carny barker would say as he waved crowds into the freaks tent -- "See the stuff they won't let you see!!"Quote:
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Richard Ely, aka, geomancer wrote :
You guys are all about the money, so riddle me this, who pays for this "slickly produced" horse shit?
You guys are so clever. And so wise, and sophisticated. You feel compelled to virtue-signal every single chance you can that you are not susceptible to any manner of "conspiracy thinking" or production -whether it be in in print or in film- that has already been decried by the msm to be "false information about corona-virus".Quote:
Peter Lipton, aka podfish wrote:
calling something as easily available as this video is "most censored" doesn't add to its credibility. Sounds more like what a carny barker would say as he waved crowds into the freaks tent -- "See the stuff they won't let you see!!"
Did either one of you watch Part One, the first 26-minute sequence? Did either one of you watch Part Two? I doubt it. Despite your posturing and your self-conception as "liberals" you have become reactionaries without realizing it. As Ivan Illych noted, things tend toward their antithesis. This is the dark shadow of Noam Chompsky. (chomp, chomp)
I'll humor you Richard, and venture an Answer. I imagine that Childrens' Health Defense has something of a war-chest. And so does the group that Del Bigtree heads. That's because many, many parents of Children who have been seriously damaged by vaccinations have contributed to the Cause. Get it? No, you probably won't.
I've got a Question for you guys. To wit: Have you watched the following footage:
Event 201 Pandemic Exercise: Highlights Reelhttps://www.waccobb.net/forums/images/youtube.pnghttps://www.waccobb.net/forums/images/youtube.png
= & / Or =
-Beginning @ 48:00, where Dana Ashlie shows footage from within the "Event 201" meeting, where the insiders discuss how they will control & manage the Outbreak, and what new measures must be taken when people spread any information or "cures" that runs counter to the official CDC / WHO / Pharma / Gates Foundation Party-line.
if you're trying to persuade people of something, it helps to know why they may not already accept the ideas you're pushing - to think about what are considered red-flags, that indicate to your audience that the information being presented isn't necessarily credible. It's not hard to figure out what those of us who are resisting your message think, what we find a bit ridiculous or unconvincing, because we're not shy about pointing it out.Quote:
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When someone presents a case that challenges the mainstream thinking, has believable explanations for why these challenges aren't necessarily being accepted, and new reasons on why they should, it'll be far better recieved.
Still, though, there's the need to deal with the limitations of the media: this is the interwebs for people with short attention spans. Information presented here has to be engaging, pithy and leave you eager to learn more
Can you prove to me that the groups you cite as financial backers of the Pandemic movie are not laundering disinformation money from the Eastern Block?
I think not!
Case closed.
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https://waccobb.net/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Richard Ely, aka, geomancer wrote :
You guys are all about the money, so riddle me this, who pays for this "slickly produced" horse shit?
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https://waccobb.net/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Peter Lipton, aka podfish wrote:
calling something as easily available as this video is "most censored" doesn't add to its credibility. Sounds more like what a carny barker would say as he waved crowds into the freaks tent -- "See the stuff they won't let you see!!"
Both of these "responses" are reactionary inasmuch as they do not speak to the heart of the issue - which is the thesis that the Covid-19 is a man-made concoction, cooked up in a BSL-4 Bio-Weapons Lab. And both of these responses are superficial inasmuch as they only deal with the surface of the article from The Waking Times about the Sequel, Plandemic 2, and not about the substance of the documentary itself.
su·per·fi·cial
(so͞o′pər-fĭsh′əl)adj.1. Of, affecting, or being on or near the surface: a superficial wound.
2. Concerned with or comprehending only what is apparent or obvious; shallow: wrote him off as superficial.
3. Apparent rather than actual or substantial: a superficial resemblance between the two films.
4. Not extensive or important; minor or insignificant: made only a few superficial changes in the manuscript.
[Middle English, from Old French superficiel, from Latin superficiālis, from superficiēs, surface; see superficies.]
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geomancer, aka Richard Ely wrote:
"Can you prove to me that the groups you cite as financial backers of the Pandemic movie are not laundering disinformation money from the Eastern Block?"
Wow, Richard, Where have you been for the past thirty years? "Eastern Block"? The Berlin Wall fell on November 9, 1989. Whereas the Soviet Union fell on Christmas Day, in 1991. All of the former "East Block" Nations are Now Members of NATO. Wake up call. Time to catch up.
That is not a denial. So we can agree that Pandemic very likely was funded by Belarus and/or Russia?
Also, there are numerous Right-wing oligarchs in the Eastern Block countries who could have funded the movie..
Hungary is run by a crypto-fascist, so they are possible suspects.
Wow, Richard, Where have you been for the past thirty years? "Eastern Block"? The Berlin Wall fell on November 9, 1989. The Soviet Union fell on Christmas Day, in 1991. All of the former "East Block" Nations are Now Members of NATO. Wake up call. Time to catch up.Quote:
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No, it is not a denial, Richard -But I do not think it therefore follows that we "agree that Plandemic was very likely funded by Belarus and/or Russia."Quote:
geomancer wrote:
That is not a denial. So we can agree that Pandemic very likely was funded by Belarus and/or Russia?
Also, there are numerous Right-wing oligarchs in the Eastern Block countries who could have funded the movie..
Hungary is run by a crypto-fascist, so they are possible suspects.
What on earth is the evidence for your allegation / suggestion / "conspiracy theory" that some "East Block" oligarch - like Putin, perhaps - would finance a documentary like "Plandemic"??
I just don't follow the Logic of your train of thought, Richard. Please explain. You may take as long as you think it necessary to spell it out. I am listening. -Others, too...
There is no evidence, it's an educated guess, analogous to the "evidence" you guys present for the genetic engineering of the COVID-19 virus.
Also, haven't you learned not to feed the troll?
What on earth is the evidence for your allegation / suggestion / "conspiracy theory" that some "East Block" oligarch - like Putin, perhaps - would finance a documentary like "Plandemic"??Quote:
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So, Richard, you will admit that there is "no evidence" for this particular "conspiracy theory" of your own devising? -And- you do concede frankly that is is [just] "an educated guess"??Quote:
geomancer wrote:
"There is no evidence, it's an educated guess, analogous to the "evidence" you guys present for the genetic engineering of the COVID-19 virus.
Also, haven't you learned not to feed the troll?"
Tell me, Richard - if I may pry an admission out of the friendly neighborhood Troll-under-the-bridge: Where would you place yourself on the Mobius-Continuum Model of the Political Spectrum ? - The original, idiosyncratic model of my own devising?
Would you say that you dwell on the Top of the Table, at ground level, a Center-Left Democrat?
For I tend to doubt that you are in the upper echelons of the Think Tank managerial class, and I also perceive that, although you no doubt dabbled in left-wing politics in your youth, you have settled squarely smack dab on the prairie of the Center / Left @ Ground Level.
https://www.waccobb.net/forums/attac...8&d=1589154216
The Mobius / Continuum Model of the Spectrum
The Important thing is to Visualize the whole diagram
as a two-dimensional map of a four-dimensional field.
For those fearless few who want to go deep into the sad details of Dr Mikovitz's descent from being a run-of-the-mill researcher into a scientific fantasist, read on.
https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/full/.../AID.2020.0095
Fake Science: XMRV, COVID-19, and the Toxic Legacy of Dr. Judy Mikovits
Stuart J.D. Neil and Edward M. Campbell
Published Online:2 Jul 2020https://doi.org/10.1089/aid.2020.0095
Abstract
One cannot spend >5 min on social media at the moment without finding a link to some conspiracy theory or other regarding the origin of SARS-CoV2, the coronavirus responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic. From the virus being deliberately released as a bioweapon to pharmaceutical companies blocking the trials of natural remedies to boost their dangerous drugs and vaccines, the Internet is rife with far-fetched rumors. And predictably, now that the first immunization trials have started, the antivaccine lobby has latched on to most of them. In the last week, the trailer for a new “bombshell documentary” Plandemic has been doing the rounds, gaining notoriety for being repeatedly removed from YouTube and Facebook. We usually would not pay much heed to such things, but for retrovirologists like us, the name associated with these claims is unfortunately too familiar: Dr. Judy Mikovits.
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"Judy Mikovits had worked on human retroviruses at the National Cancer Institute throughout the late 1980s and early 1990s with her mentor, Frank Ruscet7 She had published steadily, if unremarkably, mainly on the activity of the aforementioned promoter sequences of the retroviruses human T cell leukemia virus and HIV-1. After changing fields and moving into the private sector, Mikovits became the scientific director of a small private research institute, the Whittemore Peterson Institute (WPI), in Reno, Nevada"
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Summation:
"So, all in all Mikovits has form as a serial scientific fantasist who has consistently made unsubstantiated claims about mouse retroviruses as the cause of a number of human diseases. The only “evidence” ever published by her was unequivocally shown to stem from laboratory contamination and explicit fabrication of data. She was never a leading researcher in the field; her doctoral studies were only very minor contributions to the field and until the XMRV debacle, very few had ever heard of her.
Her subsequent “research” took advantage of people desperate to have an explanation for their debilitating symptoms, giving them false hope and many a false narrative where they are the victims of a massive medical cover up. In doing so, she also trashed the reputation of her former mentor, Frank Ruscetti.
Her reappearance now as an apparently maligned “scientific leader” challenging the orthodoxy on vaccines and COVID-19 would be a source of eye-rolling were she not being taken seriously by countless Internet warriors posting and reposting the trailer for Plandemic. Her claims have been picked up by right-wing commentators in the United States desperate to show that the lockdown measures taken against COVID-19 are a pernicious over-reaction designed to damage President Trump, whose inconsistent handling of the crisis has garnered a huge amount of criticism. In doing so, she is playing with fire in the heightened atmosphere of our “fake news” era. It is incumbent on scientists to call this out for what it is: fabricated nonsense.
There is no legitimate debate to be had on these issues, and any credence given to these dangerous conspiracies will lead to even greater suffering resulting from COVID-19. Steer well clear of Plandemic and the claims of Judy Mikovits."
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You have not answered my Question, Richard. Instead you have gone off seeking evil reports about that poor woman Dr. Judy Mikovits. I'm sure it was not hard to find. Just as, a mere two days after the Press Conference by "America's Front-line Doctors" in front of the Supreme Court Building, the internet was chock-ful and brimming over with a plethora of articles exposing the "bizarre religious beliefs" of Dr. Stella Immanuel.
I shall not follow you down this particular rabbit hole, Richard. Instead, I shall hold your feet to the fire on the issue that was before us before you changed the subject. I shall address the Court, since it seems that You, Richard are unwilling to engage in a serious, sustained conversation.
Richard Ely, aka "geomancer" does admit that there is "no evidence" for this particular "conspiracy theory" of his. =And= He states frankly that it is just an "educated guess".Quote:
geomancer wrote:
"There is no evidence, it's an educated guess, analogous to the "evidence" you guys present for the genetic engineering of the COVID-19 virus..."
I, on the other hand, only the•o•rize [thē′ə-rīz] on the basis of evidence that is already in the pile. In this manner I proceeded from an initial perception of the cognitive dissonance between what Dr. Francis Boyle said about the nature and origin of SARS-CoV-2 -&- what Dr. Peter Daszak told Amy Goodman
A. February 3, 2020: Transcript of Interview of Dr. Francis Boyle
[the lawyer who drafted the Bio-weapons Treaty of 1989]
B. Interview of Dr. Peter Daszak by Amy Goodman - April 16, 2020
Zoologist Debunks Trump’s COVID-19 Origin Theory, Calling It “Pure Baloney”
Later, further information emerged concerning the fact that Dr. Peter Daszak had been doing "gain-of-function" research on bat corona-viruses at the BSL-4 Bio-Weapons Lab in Wuhan China, and that Dr. Anthony Fauci was subsidizing this Lab-work with a 3.7 million dollar grant from the N.I.H.
At that point the dark possibility emerged that both men: Daszak & Fauci were guilty as sin, lying through their teeth, and engaged at the very least in covering up their own roles & culpability in the origin of the pandemic - or, worse, plotting and planning a global genocide.
C. Article by Josh Rogin, in the Washington Post, April 14, 2020 : State Department cables warned of safety issues at Wuhan lab studying bat coronaviruses
D. Article by Fred Guterl in Newsweek, April 28, 2020 : Dr. Fauci Backed Controversial Wuhan Lab with U.S. Dollars for Risky Coronavirus Research
It was at that point that I made my own “educated guess” - not based on any prior ethnic or political bias, as geomancer’s was - that this loquacious & well-connected Dr. Peter Daszak might also be “connected” to that illustrious (& very busy) non-doctor, William Henry Gates the Third. And, sure enough,
BINGO !
Dr. Peter Daszak, Eco Health Alliance, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
Dig Deep into That Pile
The Ore is @ the Bottom
Fool, I was trolling you, and you took the bait. Your sense of humor is vestigial at best, and your inflated sense of self-importance is remarkable, what with all your challenges and demands (see below).
BTW, ALL CAPS is crazy-uncle formatting, not cool man, not cool. OK, the shoe fits, but still . . .
I note that you have posted 823 times (and counting!) since January 2019, almost as many as I have submitted (969) since June 2005. And your posts are very lengthy and filled with links - that's a lot of work (I do appreciate the large font).
My point is, who funds and supports all this effort on your part? Do you have a network of minions and fellow travelers? Have you plagiarized material from various whack-a-doodle conspiracy websites? I remember at least one instance of you being caught using uncredited material.
Bombs away!
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You have not answered my Question, Richard.
Correct, for once
Instead you have gone off seeking evil reports about that poor woman Dr. Judy Mikovits.
That "poor woman" is a liar, the article in "Science" that Barry and I posted documents this. Here it is again:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...y-fauci-viral#
I'm sure it was not hard to find.
Low-hanging fruit for sure
Just as, a mere two days after the Press Conference by "America's Front-line Doctors" in front of the Supreme Court Building, the internet was chock-ful and brimming over with a plethora of articles exposing the "bizarre religious beliefs" of Dr. Stella Immanuel
I forget, was it alien sperm or demon sperm?
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Witness that the man concedes that he is a troll, and doth a-trolling go. He is also given to making insulting and hateful, personal ad hominem statements about someone he has never met - someone who, in this case has a very pronounced sense of humor.Quote:
Fool, I was trolling you, and you took the bait. Your sense of humor is vestigial at best, and your inflated sense of self-importance is remarkable, what with all your challenges and demands (see below).
Everyone is "important", Richard, but not everyone realizes their own importance.
I never use "ALL CAPS" - never. Another false accusation. Sometime I do capitalize the first letters of nouns, in an archaic, eighteenth century manner - as Jonathan Swift (one of my literary heroes) did.Quote:
BTW, ALL CAPS is crazy-uncle formatting, not cool man, not cool. OK, the shoe fits, but still . . .
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I note that you have posted 823 times (and counting!) since January 2019, almost as many as I have submitted (969) since June 2005. And your posts are very lengthy and filled with links - that's a lot of work (I do appreciate the large font).
That is because of the Corona-virus "Crisis" which , in my estimation requires special attention in countering the false, Establishment, mainstream media Narrative.
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My point is, who funds and supports all this effort on your part?
No one "funds" me, Richard Ely. What I am doing on WaccoBB is done purely as a Labor of Love...
I am desperately poor at this point in my life. I am a semi-retired Carpenter, still working part-time at 20 dollars an hour, for my Zen Buddy, a Zen hermit who lives in remote NW Sonoma County. I have No Social Security; no Medicare, I don't even have any Medi-Cal; they demanded that I produce Affidavits from all of my employers accounting for every dollar that I had earned in the fiscal year. They cut me off after I could not produce said Affidavits.
I earn less than eight thousand dollars a year these days. I am seventy years old, and still struggling to make ends meet. I have worked under the table since 1986 because I stopped paying income taxes during the Reagan 80's on account of that Administration's support of the Death Squads in Central America. There was another reason why I stopped paying income taxes in 1986: That was the Year that I learned that the bond-holding class collect Quarterly dividends on the Interest on the "National Debt."
No. Judith Iam and I have known each other for years. infojockey I have met a few times. He and I disagree on a few issues - notably the prez. Others who post in this category and take these issues seriously, I have never met.Quote:
Do you have a network of minions and fellow travelers?
No. Everything that I post is in the public domain.Quote:
Have you plagiarized material from various whack-a-doodle conspiracy websites?
This is a False accusation and an errant "memory", Richard Ely. You have absolutely No evidence for this. You are skating on thin ice - perilously close to Libel.Quote:
I remember at least one instance of you being caught using uncredited material.
Mark, I have genuine compassion for your financial circumstances, I do. It's rough getting old with few resources. I suggest you get knowledgeable advice on how to get financial aid. Perhaps there is someone on this thread who can help you.
Here's the deal: I will post information from creditable scientific and medical sources to any and all COVID threads, and if you ignore me, I will refrain from mocking you. However, if you come back at me with your condescending know-it-all bullshit, I will drag your sorry ass from here to next week.
So let's give it a rest, OK?
Your choice.
I never use "ALL CAPS" - never. Another false accusation. Sometime I do capitalize the first letters of nouns, in an archaic, eighteenth century manner - as Jonathan Swift (one of my literary heroes) did.Quote:
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This may come as a surprise to you, but your post of 12:22 AM today was ALL CAPs, go look at it. I await your apology.
I neither seek nor do I want pity, from anyone. I am still fit enough to work thirty hours as a week (can't do the forty-eight hours of hard labor I could do at the age of thirty-five) but I am a better carpenter than I was then. I am open to offers of temporary carpentry gigs - if there are such - in the County.Quote:
Mark, I have genuine compassion for your financial circumstances, I do. It's rough getting old with few resources. I suggest you get knowledgeable advice on how to get financial aid. Perhaps there is someone on this thread who can help you.
I explained my financial circumstances because you drew me out on that issue, Richard. I am not now, nor have I ever been "for sale." If I had been ambitious to make millions of dollars, I probably would have been able to pull it off. But I have never been that interested in "making money". I have all that I need, on a daily basis. The Heavenly Father provides all that I need - in the Present.
Nor do I want "financial aid" from the government. We are living in a fascist police state. I have no illusions on that score, and I do not want to be a ward of such a state. -And- I would sooner die than be marked with a digital identity tag - even if it came with a guaranteed annual income. You may Quote me. I am ready to die.
If you wish to post on any thread in any department on WaccoBb, that is completely your option, Richard. If I think I can post something that contributes & adds to the General Welfare, that also is my right. To be at Peace with All {Women & Men} is the way to be, Richard. We all know that.Quote:
Here's the deal: I will post information from creditable scientific and medical sources to any and all COVID threads, and if you ignore me, I will refrain from mocking you. However, if you come back at me with your condescending know-it-all bullshit, I will drag your sorry ass from here to next week.
So let's give it a rest, OK?
As far as me being a "know-it-all" I can't help it if I know a lot. I came from the Inteligenstsia. You've no doubt heard of them. My parents had twenty years of higher education between the two of them. Some of it rubbed off on me. Then again, I have always been a reader, &, even though I was unable to complete college on account of drug-induced ADD (Langley-Porter) I have ten thousand books @ present, and I study them.
Besides that, Yahshua said -& I Quote, "ὁ (The) δὲ (however) Παράκλητος (Helper), τὸ (the) Πνεῦμα (Spirit) τὸ (-) Ἅγιον (Holy), ὃ (whom) πέμψει (will send) ὁ (the) Πατὴρ (Father) ἐν (in) τῷ (the) ὀνόματί (name) μου (of Me), ἐκεῖνος (He) ὑμᾶς (you) διδάξει (will teach) πάντα (all things) καὶ (and) ὑπομνήσει (will bring to remembrance) ὑμᾶς (of you) πάντα (all things) ἃ (that) εἶπον (have said) ὑμῖν (to you) ἐγώ (I).
Besides that, geomancer, you've got the example of Neal Cassidy who famously said (don't remember the chapter & verse) "I already told you that I know everything." Just saying.
=OR=
As someone once said to George Fox (as recorded in his Journal) "George, thou findest out all things."
Is that how you see it, at present - "ALL CAPS" ? - Because that is not how I wrote it, and it is not how it appears to me at the present. I doubt that that's how it appears to you (suspect that you are spoofing) =But= If that is what you see, then someone other than me has altered it. And that's about all I have to say about this little non-issue.Quote:
This may come as a surprise to you, but your post of 12:22 AM today was ALL CAPs, go look at it. I await your apology.
One more point, Richard, that I feel I must address, because I overlooked an aspect of this Question of yours.Quote:
geomancer wrote:
...Have you plagiarized material from various whack-a-doodle conspiracy websites?...
I don't "plagiarize" anything. When I post any article that someone else has written, I always put their name at the top, under the title. I (almost) always remember to put the Source, with a link, at the bottom of the post. And when I quote from someone else, I always put their words in quotation marks. That is how it is done.
On the other hand, when it is original material that I myself have written, I don't put my name at the top. I am a writer - a published author, with a small but substantial body of work - (a total of approximately fifty published articles in print). I haven't counted.
My mother had a Masters degree in Journalism from Cal, Berkeley, (as well as a dual major in Organic Chemistry & Political Science from Bard, and a Masters degree in Library Science from Columbia.) For a time, in the 1960's, she taught Journalism at the Junior College level. I learned a great deal from her in my youth. My grandparents also were illustrious - and famous - journalists in their time. My grandfather was nominated for the Pulitzer Prize in 1931.
All of that accumulated in my own peculiar DNA. Journalism is in my blood. I find it insulting that you insinuate that I might stoop to "plagiarizing material form various wack-a-dooodle conspiracy websites."
That really is an insult.
The incident I remember was you posting an - inadvertently - uncredited article, which you corrected when it was pointed out. Given the huge volume of your postings, slip-ups will happen.
The ALL CAPS email of 8/24 arrived in my inbox in that form. I did the screen cap from the digest because it was easier to find than in a gmail thread. I found it just now if you want me to do a screen shot of it I will, but it seems pointless. It happened, get over it.
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OK. One more round of "feeding the troll" ( his own words).Quote:
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Once - just once - I posted an article by someone else that did not include the "Source" at the bottom - but I did cite the name of the author at the top. Our friendly neighborhood uptown lawyer called me on it. I swiftly tagged the source - with a live link - at the bottom. It was a continuation of the last article on that thread. That is why I did not post the source. Fact.
It was abundantly obvious that I was not the author of the article for two reasons: A. I wrote "from article by Joseph Mercola" at the top, and B. The video in the post was a video of an Interview of a British Virologist named Jonathan Latham that was done by Dr. Joseph Mercola. Here is a link.<{ to the article I posted that is in dispute}.
You are grasping at straws, geomancer. Take a break.
What am I supposed to "get over" ? I was not the one who made that post degenerate into "ALL CAPS". And furthermore, Barry informed me in a personal email, (See screen shot, A*) that that post was to be "excluded" from the Daily Digest. Another Fact. As I wrote - today - on the other thread, Richard:
"...My post on the "Plandemic Movie" thread was marked "Exclude from Digest" I have the evidence here (* See below) , In a personal email from Our Moderator. So, It is quite beyond me how it ever made it on into the Digest that day - since my articles almost never appear there.
Furthermore I am recursive when I write to the point of being Obsessive-compulsive. This is a confession. Barry can testify to this. I mull over everything I write, fussing about the grammar, the punctuation, the syntax, et cetera, until I get it perfect. I never use "ALL CAPS" - Never. I quite agree with you, Richard, it is very gauche to do so.
Furthermore, I have no memory of that missive ever turning up, in any of the many, many times I hit the "Preview Post" tab on that day - August 24, 2020 - in the format of "ALL CAPS." - And if, by some freaky accident it had degenerated into "ALL CAPS", You can bet your bottom dollar that I certainly would have re-adjusted it, to get it perfect, before I hit the "Submit Reply" tab... You can count on that.
The second screen shot ( * See Below ) is a Record of how the post appeared when it finally cleared my desk, just after midnight on August 24th.
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Here is a screen shot of the email from you that I received on 8/24 at 12:23 AM. You indeed sent it in ALL CAPS, and need to quit being so defensive and, I'll say it again, own your shit and get over it. The only reason I'm beating your very, very dead horse is that you accused me of forgery ("spoofing").
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The Eleventh Commandment:
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Mystery solved. The page you posted is not all caps. That’s a font that displays large & small caps to represent upper and lower case characters. Why that particular font showed up can be someone else’s project to unravel.
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Perhaps I should ignore your group attempt to character-assassinate this one ( i ). But I'll go for the bait. As far as I am concerned the "mystery" still remains. One thing you may know about me : I am a truth-teller. I have never learned how to lie. It runs counter to my nature. You may disbelieve me; that is your option. Nevertheless, I stand by my words:Quote:
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Mystery solved. The page you posted is not all caps. That’s a font that displays large & small caps to represent upper and lower case characters. Why that particular font showed up can be someone else’s project to unravel.
"I was not the one who made that post degenerate into "ALL CAPS". Furthermore, Barry informed me in a personal email, (See screen shot, A*) that that post was to be "excluded" from the Daily Digest. Another Fact. As I wrote on the other thread :
"...My post on the "Plandemic Movie" thread was marked "Exclude from Digest" I have the evidence here (* See below) , In a personal email from Our Moderator. So, It is quite beyond me how it ever made it on into the Digest that day - since my articles almost never appear there.
Furthermore I am recursive when I write to the point of being Obsessive-compulsive. This is a confession. Barry can testify to this. I mull over everything I write, fussing about the grammar, the punctuation, the syntax, et cetera, until I get it perfect. I never use "ALL CAPS" - Never. I quite agree with you, Richard, it is very gauche to do so.
Furthermore, I have no memory of that missive ever turning up, in any of the many, many times I hit the "Preview Post" tab on that day - August 24, 2020 - in the format of "ALL CAPS." - And if, by some freaky accident it had degenerated into "ALL CAPS", You can bet your bottom dollar that I certainly would have re-adjusted it, to get it perfect, before I hit the "Submit Reply" tab... You can count on that.
The second screen shot ( * See Below ) is a Record of how the post appeared when it finally cleared my desk, just after midnight on August 24th."
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I did a search for the script of *Plandemic* and found this annotated scrip by "Mikhail Varshavski, DO, (better known on social media as "Doctor Mike") is a board-certified family medicine physician at the Atlantic Health System's Overlook Medical Center in Summit, New Jersey. His YouTube channel educates over 3 million subscribers with two weekly shows covering everything from trending medical stories and health myths to reaction videos critiquing popular medical TV dramas. His goal is to expose medical misinformation and increase health literacy for a previously untapped audience of young adults.
Point-by-Point 'Plandemic' Smackdown
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86487
I believe the doctor is very well-credentialed; however, he doesn't understand a lot of how Gates 'charitable donations' pay him back hugely in financial world, how politicized and corrupted science and medicine can be, etc.. I don't have time to go through the smackdown, however, from as far as I got I believe the doctor well-intentioned, though not that well informed; and if he is willing to settle for first answer he comes across that contradicts points in Plandemic... not doing creditable in-depth research that this issue deserves.
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for those who support Plandemic, a thought experiment. Read the linked article as if it were about some esoteric technical issue with no relevance to you, just look at the way various arguments are presented. This may tell you why we find "Pandemic" itself unconvincing, and the rebuttals reasonable. One passage stuck out to me:Quote:
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and there are lots of other objections Varshavski makes, that lead directly to the conclusion that Mikovits is anything but an impartial analyst. I guess I'm seeing a pattern in my own reactions. If you want to challenge a consensus point of view, you'd better focus on its flaws rather than flatly state opposing views as fact. Varshavski is doing that - looking at a variety of her statements and showing that they should not be taken at face value. The explanations around things like the assertion above always seem to turn on presumptions of ill-intent based on raw self-interest, as if claiming that as a plausible motive is the same as proving it.Quote:
Willis: And do you have any ideas of where this occurred?
Mikovits: Oh, yeah. I'm sure it occurred between the North Carolina laboratories, Fort Detrick, the US Army Research Institute of Infectious Disease, and the Wuhan laboratory.
Varshavski: How can you be sure? There are so many virologists who have the same specialty as you that say that it could have easily come from a specific animal species and then jumped to humans, and then you're sure that it happened between these laboratories. I think even scientists should be comfortable with the unknown or the fact that they may be wrong.
More information: Bill Gates — Most Dangerous Philanthropist in Modern History?
Article about many issues - including Gates; related links: The Injection Fraud – It’s Not a Vaccine
https://home.solari.com/deep-state-t...not-a-vaccine/
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Excellently said.... a lot of that has been modeled in press and elsewhere for decades...Quote:
Varshavski is doing that - looking at a variety of her statements and showing that they should not be taken at face value. The explanations around things like the assertion above always seem to turn on presumptions of ill-intent based on raw self-interest, as if claiming that as a plausible motive is the same as proving it.
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Re: Doctor Mike... Check out the first minute of this clip. -Specifically between 00:30 to 00:45 - in which fifteen seconds the Good Doctor forever lays to rest any aspersions against the character of Bill and Melinda Gates...
Doctor VS Coronavirus Conspiracy Theories
Interesting. I've been meaning to address this issue. Voila ! An opening. What Dr. Judy Mikovits is saying is that SARS-CoV-2 was a Joint Sino-Amerikan Bio-Weapons Project. -Not exclusively a Chinese Bio-Weapon as Senator Tom Cotton declared on January 30- and not exclusively an Amerikan Bio-weapon as various articles in Global Research have indicated. This is the Both/And Option.Quote:
Willis: And do you have any ideas of where this occurred?
Mikovits: Oh, yeah. I'm sure it occurred between the North Carolina laboratories, Fort Detrick, the US Army Research Institute of Infectious Disease, and the Wuhan laboratory.
Four Ko-Ti's in a Nutshell:
1. (If A is B), A is B
2. A cannot be both B and not B
3. A is either B or not B
4. A is neither B nor not B