Issues with Red Cross

A post from my FB feed:

THIS IS FROM A DEAR FRIEND WHO DOES NOT WANT HER NAME MENTIONED:

My friend and I filled up a suburban and a large pickup truck with donations for people at the tent camp at the Napa County Fairgrounds. We had contacted our friends and a few stores for donations. We ended up with a ton of stuff. We brought 25 cases of water, mens women's and children's clothing, toiletries, books, shoes, tents, tarps, pop up shelters, pillows, blankets and a ton more. When we arrived at the NC Fairgrounds it was very crowded. I drove in front and rolled down my window to speak with a Red Cross representative. I let him know we had two vehicles filled donations. His response was 'we do not need donations. We have plenty of stuff. The Red Cross could use cash donations'.

I had to keep on moving in my truck so I pulled forward and signaled my friend to pull behind me. We got out of our vehicles and I told her what the gentleman had said. There was another two women in their large SUV who told us that they were told the same thing. This women had her vehicle filled with brand new items from Target. She said her father was a contractor in Napa and told her to go buy whatever she thought the victims may need brand new at target. She said that the Red Cross told her that she could leave all of her donations, however they would probably be put into a box truck and taken to another disaster. She said she bought these things for the people of Lake county and wanted them to have them. She said she was also asked for a cash donation. We decided to go speak with someone else. The next Red Cross Representative was very kind. He said they could only accept donations that were organized. Ours stuff was all separated, clean, and labeled. I totally understand that the American Red Cross has a system and I respect that however, we were turned away without them even looking at what we had.

We decided to speak with the Napa County Sheriff and he advised us that people inside the camp were in need of items. He told us to pull our trucks into the tent camp and start our own donation center. So we did. And people did need things. We gave away clothes, shoes, toiletries, tents, blankets, pillows, books, candy, toys, and more. Everyone was so grateful and enjoyed being able to talk to someone who didn't have a tragedy in their life.

I know so many people want to help and this is amazing. The truth is they do have enough necessities at the camp. There is plenty of water, blankets, towels, pillows, toiletries, water. What they dont have and want is forms of entertainment. Some good things to collect and bring are children and adult books, magazines, coloring books and crayons, board games, balls, jump ropes, candy and cards. Baby wipes were a hot commodity and people were asking for Qtips. Bring bags of fresh fruit so you can hand out cuties and apples to people.

Other ways people can help is by their trade!!! I read in the paper that a nail technician went and gave people manicures. When I was there a yoga instructor was holding a yoga session and a masseuse was massaging people. Do you know anyone with a mobile dog grooming van? The dogs will need to be washed eventually. Do you know a face painter? The kids would love that.

The NC Sheriff made a good point when saying this camp will be open for at least a month and they will need people to help the entire time. So if you can't help right now help in a few weeks. If you cant afford to bring anything just bring yourself. You don't need permission and you don't need to be trained to be kind to another human being. We are all the same no matter what you may think. We are all human beings. We were made to help each other and to rely on each other. Maybe your role in all of this could be to give out hugs. A hug goes a long way. Human touch and comfort can help people through very hard times.

I went there today. There is a sign saying no donations. But when I went in I saw people just come on in with what they had to offer. I was helping out a mobile vet offering free spay/neuter. Some people have been there a week and many will likely be there for awhile. I understand Red Cross usually only wants money but there is need for some basics. And need for volunteers. Go give what you can.

Jessica

Ahem:

How the Red Cross Raised Half a Billion Dollars for Haiti and Built Six Homes
Even as the group has publicly celebrated its work, insider accounts detail a string of failures
by Justin Elliott, ProPublica, and Laura Sullivan, NPR

https://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-red-cross-raised-half-a-billion-dollars-for-haiti-and-built-6-homes
June 3, 20https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/...201349198.html

They ALWAYS want money. Not a dime from me.

Richard

Nationally they are known to pay .08 cents on the dollar for actual help. The rest is their promotions, staging costs and salaries I guess. Millions for the CEO. And to think Redwood Credit Union is receiving a million local dollars in its Valley Fire Relief Drive - all of which will go to the Red Cross - don't they vet their non-profits?

Oh no! I read that 100% was going to Valley Fire victims!

How did you find out about this?

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Nationally they are known to pay .08 cents on the dollar for actual help. The rest is their promotions, staging costs and salaries I guess. Millions for the CEO. And to think Redwood Credit Union is receiving a milliion local dollars in it's Valley Fire Relief Drive - all of which will go to the Red Cross - dont they vet their non-profits?

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Here's a suggestion for anyone who is would like to do some background checking on nonprofits, including the American Red Cross. You will be able to read reviews and gather info before donating or volunteering to most of the nonprofits that you come across. It is not possible for this to be 100% accurate. The more info, the better. guidestar.org

My Father was in the second world war,in All the theatres ,S.Pacific,N.Africa, and Europe ,He KNEW the red cross was crooked way back then, he said even with the military they did not serve well,were cheap with supplies,and always asked for money that seemed to disappear.They were known for setting up small inadequate shelters,and getting credit for work that was done by military medics.

We have a weird dynamic no one seems to KNOW or care about in Sonoma county with the HOMELESS, the police drive them out of any place they congregate or try to hide or get some proper privacy. under bridges,in a large thicket near the railway tracks, They want them right on the sidewalks around the gospel mission ,or IN the gospel mission, the only services they get is ALL with a big dose of Christian propaganda.

I was headed down to see a Homeless "Town" I found out about by posting here,I was going to donate some goods directly to them, when I got there I was shocked to see police cars,and a BACK HOE the Back hoe was destroying their tents ,the police were not allowing the people to go in and remove their belongings from the tents ,they had a 20 cubic yard dumpster there and they were loading all the tents ,and cloths and everything else these people had into the dumpster,there were bicycles, toys clothing tents and trash. It is true when these camps develop,there is usually a considerable amount of trash that builds up around them, There was also a rail-road cop there,he was big and grumpy. Why not institute a volunteer group that helps homeless clean up? If you were living on the streets eating from dumpsters ,maybe trash pick-up wouldn't be your highest priority either?

I hear a lot of talk about human decency, but We need to get that our service organisations are not serving that,they are serving their sense of superiority and protecting the community need to feed fears of "drug use" and"alcoholism " and "criminals" . I saw the sheriffs dept. team with Sebastopol police to swoop in in a "drug raid" manner to remove Rolin (our friendly intelligent kind local jester/creative homefree magician ) from HARDCORE Corner,the OLD location of hardcore cafe' ,he had been illegally camping there and doing a GREAT JOB of painting the horrible ugly old condemned building into a fun billboard of bright colors and forms They had a dozen cops(you know these skinny 70 yr olds with flowers in their hair can be dangerous )...they brought in a helicopter for backup just in case he,or any of his accomplices,(Baby) should make a break and head into our pristine neighbourhoods. I have heard that the Sheriffs Helicopter costs $1000.oo per hour to operate , Gee I'm sure glad our tax dollars are going to such good use to help out with the homeless "situation" , they took away his only "home" a mobile unit he had made from a baby stroller,Broke it in HALF and threw it in a dumpster (((this I believe was a completely illegal and arrogant move on their part,it was HIS property, and all he had to call a home,,it was ON WHEELS and easily moved to public space,he was NOT put under arrest))) ,it sickens me to see a community ignore the fact that their police force is acting this way,and modelling BULLYING in its purest form , right under our noses and no one speaks up.
YUK

is ignorance easier than action ?

We went to the PANCAKE BREAKFAST at Graton fire ,GREAT FUN nice community outing ,nice Military FIGHTING VEHICLE and BOMB SQUAD TACTICAL UNIT , And there was a nice guy who seemed quite popular and accepted among his peers there, strolling and talking and handsome (ERIC GELHOUS)

I asked why the bomb unit(they assured me they get a lot of action that requires these expensive tactical units and warrants their upkeep. I hope they sell tickets to the next action with the military fighting vehicle ,should be interesting.

if this is how we want to be "safe" it think I'd rather be sorry than safe

Thank you for sharing your direct experience and knowledge. I encourage everyone to do the same. Our eyes and hearts, see and feel what's important to share, but many of us just "like", which actually does nothing to spread the information. Please know that "SHARE" is what matters, whether on Facebook, or any site. Networking is a the heart of volunteering, and makes a difference.

In the past week, I've connected strangers with each other, who are also strangers to me. When I see information that I believe has value to others, I SHARE. How many of us share WaccoBB messages on Facebook? It's just a matter of clicking the button, and has the power to transform lives. If you can't do anything else, you can do this......if you really care.

Wow, thats horrible. the misusing of funds, esp meant to help people and received in kindness and integrity.

I like how you said you brought your items directly to the homeless people. i think that is very very helpful.
Like how some are bringing items directly to those displaced by the fires.

There are some already 'displaced' even before the fires, homeless or those almost homeless.

Its great we are also opening our minds and seeing this as a community. I bet this could change too. What if 'we gave in things or in presence (gov't) to those in need?
People really are compassionate, deep inside.

from Ronogden Gobmc


My response to the American Red Cross Problem in Calistoga.- I can't belive that there as been no required reform for the largest 501c nonprofit that has a salary and overhead that consumes 92 cents of every dollar. It is a crooked money making machine that takes advantage of its volunteers and its contributors. Without a private watchtower group or a Government investigation this will continue. What's funny is the Government deems them necessary and effective and continues to pat them on the back for a job well done. It's a sad state and crooked at the top.

The average age of the volunteers for ARC at the fairgrounds was around 62 and they were tired and overworked and really incapable of moving boxes and standing long periods of time. We had them cut in line to eat because I was under the impression that they were in control and it was important that they get back quickly to their posts. The ARC started serving their dinner at 5pm and were taking trays of hotdogs and burgers that we brought and prepared. Then came and cut in line for our Tri Tip dinner. In charge? by mid day I knew better. The great people of the Calistoga Boosters had taken control and been way more effective in feeding the victims. They tried to turn me away at gate 4 with my truckload of camping gear. I told them that I was one of the MC clubs in charge of the Tri Tip BBQ and that I had 600lbs of meat in the cooler. I was told to drive in, drop meat off, then park outside. (LC Sheriff)

I of course ignored the command of the well paid watchdog and went about completing my mission. We filled two pallets with tents, bags,bedding, lanterns, plus sorted hygiene products in organized boxes. Within two hours they were all gone but one open sleeping bag. Sad state of propaganda to lie to the helpful public for financial gain. The first ARC volunteer I met I asked about the donation turn away issue. She said that they have informed the media and public that there was plenty of donations and now they need financial donations for the next step. I asked her for what? She said so we can provide cash vouchers for the displaced victims. I am sure they are quick to hand those out.... SURE!!! When I walked back over the donation area all of the items that I brought were gone including the open red sleeping bag.

The situation was not in control and it was an obvious attempt to exploit the Valley fire victims and I hope that enough of you all light a fire under your local politicians ass to investigate this. What I saw was a skeleton crew of aged volunteers with vests and credentials to create the illusion of help to justify a crooked nonprofit to continue to exploit the hearts of giving people and take advantage of disasters around the world. Please remember that the ARC volunteers I saw were doing their best and several thanked us. But if it wasn't for Eli, Kathi Youngblood, and them boosters this whole situation and the victims care would have been a dire event but it may have exposed the cracks in this crooked operation.

Thank you and the Conservation corps for getting it done. also the several private citizens at the public donation area like Ben and Terry for ignoring the order and letting donations come in the RV gate. Shame on you ARC. Thank you for the Nothbay community. Make me proud to be one of them

Red Cross is saying they need money so they can give cash vouchers. Does anyone know residents who have received any, and if so for how much? I'll also be doing research on this to see what I can dig up.

The head of the Red Cross is paid more than half a million dollars every year and a jet...of course they want money. Find someone you want to help and give THEM some money, not these greedy ego maniacs.

From Business Insider:

We recently discussed how America continues to reflexively rely on the Red Cross to provide disaster relief despite mounting criticism of the organization. As interest in the organization grows, we looked into Red Cross's financials to see what we could find. Okay, we basically just want to know how much these guys are getting paid. In 2010, top executive compensation looked like this: Executive director Gail McGovern made $561,210EVP for biomedical services James Hrouda made $621,779Biomedical services president Shaun Gilmore made $573,933 Here is the full compensation table, via Guidestar, from 2010. https://static1.businessinsider.com/...ed%20cross.pngGuideStarTotal executive comp came to $4.5 million (Line IX-5 in the doc). That may seem like a lot, but you have to ask what kind of organization you're comparing the Red Cross to. Most would regard them as a charity, but others might say they're more akin to a large, complex organization that competes with corporations for talent. In 2010, the Red Cross finished its fiscal year with revenues of about $3.6 billion in revenue (Line I-12). As far as 501(c)3s, that puts it on par with mega hospital networks, not goodwill organizations. That's a story in itself. But keeping the focus on aid groups, if we look at executive comp as a percentage of direct grants, we can get an idea of how well Red Cross executives were paid. For the Red Cross, total grants in the U.S. and abroad came in at $383 million (Line IX-2/3). That's 1.2% percent of executive comp. Seems reasonable. But in 2010, Feeding America, another relief group, provided grants totaling $1.1 billion, according to Guidestar (Line IX-1). They paid top execs $2.7 million (Line IX-5). That's .2% of grants. Here's how that group paid their top execs:

Thank you for sharing these details. I looked at their financials for last year, and it shows a "loss", but of course we know how figures can be manipulated when we have the money to pay for it. Consider that white collar criminals do it all the time, and most average tax payers do it on a much small degree.

The symbol of a RED CROSS is a manipulative visual that people equate with hope. I know I used to. I was programmed well; weren't we all? The time for questioning is upon us. Let's step up, and stand up for integrity for "helping" organizations.

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Rebecca Rowan-Connors

September 20 at 12:03pm

Firefight: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished
My name is Rebecca Rowan, I am long time resident of napa valley. I have experienced the relief efforts here through numerous floods, the big earthquake in the 90s, and the most current earth quake of 2014. Each time, I was proud of my community and the way we banded together to support on another. As a native napa woman, I cherish this place and its people with all my heart. So please know, that I am reaching out to you from place of gratitude and love.

The valley fire has been devastating for us. When I heard about the fire the first thing I thought is "what can we do?". The Red Cross mobilized the shelter at the fairgrounds and promptly asked for donations (specifically blankets). On Sunday my husband and I filled his truck up with donations. 50% of which was brand new clothing, tents, water, formula... We co-ordinated with friends to drop off at our home in order to drive it up valley. 5 people came to our home and gave additional brand new items. My husband loaded up the items and went to the designated drop off in napa town only to be turned away. The Red Cross was no longer accepting donations. I googled the valley fire and saw the piles of clothing and food piled high at the fairgrounds... No staging, it looked as if a truck just dumped them there.. We found a church that would take our donations. Perfect! I inquired why the Red Cross wasn't accepting anymore donations and was told, they aren't sorting them. Well, I knew how to organize and merchandise, I had worked for over a decade in fashion. THIS was how I could best contribute! Great! I went up to the fairgrounds in Calistoga. It was about 3/4pm when I got there.
It was a mess.

I couldn't even believe it. I have photos of the piles. Brand new clothes getting dropped in the dust, toys becoming undone and dirty, perfectly good blankets and towels, destroyed.
This couldn't happen! These items were needed. I pushed out of my mind thoughts of getting there sooner and how much more pulled together it COULD HAVE BEEN & put myself to work!

Bending over for hours with no break or food, I diligently sorted and sifted through bags upon bags. I spent my time hugging the victims and talking about their efforts to get out. We cried together as I heard heroic stories of people ditching their cars and out running the fire... Driving through walls of fire... Letting their livestock out of their cages to fend for themselves... I can't imagine what they faced when they did... It was very humbling. So while we spoke, I chatted with them about their immediate needs. What could they need that night? These were people that had nothing. Sifting through the piles unorganized donations we found what they needed... This was good, hard work. I felt very in touch with the needs of the Middletown/ hidden valley fire victims. These were my neighbors... I felt honored that I could be there for them.

After some time I became frustrated. The amount of sorting and lack of help was overwhelming and my back hurt from bending over. I was taught that the Red Cross SHOWS UP in these situations but after hours of volunteering I saw no one from the ARC in their red vest. Taking matters into my own hands, I decided it was time to ask for help. I walked over to the main building and asked for 10 volunteers. Volunteers that I could see by looking around were available. I was quickly dismissed that the Red Cross did not manage donations. I found this ironic since they blasted every local news station asking for these donations but now that they have arrived, the ARC didn't "handle donations". I explained that it seemed rather absurd. I was instructed to mind my own and would be asked to leave if I became combative. Not wanting to take away from those in need I quieted myself and went back to work, at night, with no flash light or head lamp. I continued to work until 11:30pm, no one from the Red Cross checked on us once. Not once.

Monday was my second day there. I got there around 10am... I was exhausted but no matter, I drank some coffee and got to it. Sifting, sorting, hanging... It was getting better... Slowly. Once again, I asked the Red Cross if they could help with the donations. They again said no.

I decided to go check up on the main ARC volunteer building. It was filled with people in their red vests hanging around talking to one another, using their laptops, texting on cells... Ample food was out. Donated by local restaurants. They looked rested and clean. In contrast, I was filthy from sorting in the dirt outside, my back was aching from bending over for hours at a time, and my face poofy from crying with the victims.
They ate the food being donated by my community kitchens, yet weren't doing any of the grit. We community volunteers were having an entirely different experience. As I was walking out, they were so kindly taping off their offices so victims and community volunteers felt uncomfortable "checking in" with them with red tape that said "do not cross"-oh ok then.

I would also like to note I blasted about 8 facebook groups indicating we needed help sorting donations on a daily basis. Approx 5,000 people got my message. About 25 in total were turned away by the Red Cross (by my count) because they said that they had enough volunteers. When in actuality, the community was overwhelmed by the donations and we couldn't get the ARC whom had the infrastructure in place to coordinate the donations, simply wouldn't.

It was a sad moment for my community but a great one for bureaucracy. For me, this was very upsetting. I was drowning in donations and I come to find out that my very needed help has been turned away! Once again, I approached the Red Cross (an organization that my family donated to and had believed in) and requested "please don't turn anyone away we need help!". And was then told to "go away". Literally. I left on Monday defeated and overwhelmed. This was turning into one of the best and worst experiences in napa.
I took Tuesday and wed to myself.

Thursday back at it! Up in Calistoga by 10am, coffee in hand! Come to find out that the Red Cross doesn't want the community volunteers to organize the donations on site. We have moved to the Calistoga watering plant. I ended up knowing a lot of people here and saw some friends that were helping, this time no one was turned away. The community was taking charge. I inquired why we weren't at the fairgrounds, the consensus was the Red Cross did not want us on site. While I was at the warehouse labeling, sorting, and distributing... I saw at least 20 or so Red Cross workers standing off to the side, in the air conditioned offices, doing nothing. They didn't even update us on the immediate needs for the victims... Actually, the only time one of them spoke to me, was to cut in front of me to use the bathroom. That was it. What the ARC bureaucrats were fighting for was control, power, credit, praise for themselves

On that same day, my husband split from me to work at the fairgrounds. He told me that he showed up to more piles of disorganized donations (so there was a drop off there?!)... His background is in operations and he instinctively knew how to compartmentalize the items and delegate the tasks. He volunteered for a minimum of 8 hours that day, no one from the Red Cross spoke to any of the volunteers to pitch in or check in at his post. Once again, the community response was 100%...

I have heard rumors that the Red Cross took over lunch for wed... And only cooked for150 persons when the boosters cook for a min of 500... I guess not everyone needs to eat?
The local community has been fighting to recover the lives of people who were burned out, who lost everything but their lives and the clothes on their backs, who have to start over totally. At times, I wonder why the ARC is even here?

https://www.propublica.org/article/red-cross-ceo-tried-to-kill-government-investigation

I've been reading personal stories of people who've experienced the RedCross corruption first hand:

One I find hard to believe: "They handed out coffee and donuts for a photo op, then asked for them to be given back"!!

I've also read that the government repays the RC for any help they provide.

The Red Cross was chartered by Congress over a century ago and operates as a kind of public-private hybrid. It responds to disasters hand-in-hand with the federal government but that work is largely funded through private donations. A law passed after Hurricane Katrina reforming the Red Cross explicitly empowered the GAO to investigate the group.

If you have information about the Red Cross, email [email protected].
To anonymously send us documents online, visit our SecureDrop site.

I heard (second-hand) last night that someone was busted trying to return to Walmart items that had been donated for fire victims; supposedly the person returning the stuff had stolen them. I haven't seen anything in the news about this; has anyone else heard about it?

One of the biggest problems with 'donating to the Red Cross' to me is what the PD acknowledged today quoting a Red Cross representative:

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/4...ism-for?page=2
"...Most donations enter a general fund, and those donors who do indicate a preference for where the money is used generally mail a check, a process that takes longer..."

Red Cross is a GENERAL FUND.... NATIONAL. Period. No tally of specific donations received from locals meant for locals only. No accounting of local money gathered and how it was locally distributed. NO transparency.

So how much was in this 'General Fund' before this tragedy? Exactly why do they need only/more money for THIS tragedy? Auto-pilot press is always 'need more money'.

It's my understanding that these issues loomed large after Katrina, and are still very murky and actual receipt-distribution very concealed and reasons for serious questions very substantive.

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Red Cross under criticism for shelter operation in Valley fire

BY JULIE JOHNSON
THE PRESS DEMOCRAT
September 23, 2015, 8:35PM

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Horrified by the sight of carloads of Lake County residents fleeing for their lives in the first hours of the monstrous Valley wildfire Sept. 12, Calistoga resident Wendy Lopez drove straight to the startup emergency shelter at the Napa County Fairgrounds in town and asked how she could help.

That’s where a volunteer in a Red Cross vest tried to turn her away, she said.

Lopez was among a vocal group of people who said they were rebuffed by Red Cross representatives, who reportedly told people to go home and donate money, in what was the start of a series of alleged problems with the national humanitarian organization at the fairgrounds, local officials and volunteers said.

“We just wanted to help. They tried to shut us down,” Lopez said.

Lopez stayed anyway, joining a corps of local residents who spearheaded an effort to accept donations of clothing and other articles pouring into the fairgrounds for evacuees forced to abandon their homes and possessions. The Calistoga site, which is set to close Thursday, has served as the largest of several temporary shelter locations in the Valley fire, which displaced nearly 20,000 people in the first days and burned more than 1,200 homes. Roughly 3,000 people have been left homeless, authorities said.

Volunteers working apart from Red Cross ended up providing the bulk of services given to evacuees at Napa County Fairgrounds, sorting through heaps of goods and arranging daily meals donated and prepared by local restaurants and other groups.

Of the nearly 1,000 evacuees who stayed at the fairgrounds, only about 25 each day were housed in the Red Cross indoor area set up inside one of the fair buildings, with the bulk staying outside in tents or RVs, Napa County Fair chief executive officer Carlene Moore said.

Complaints included those lodged by rebuffed volunteers, others who said their donations of materials were turned away, and officials who said the organization was not a collaborative partner in the early aid effort. Some evacuees and volunteers said aid services provided by the Red Cross fell short.

Continues here.

I see that my post is still up, but was placed under a new category called "Issues with the Red Cross", but I was able to find my original post, which was a copy of a first hand report:

My title was: Read it and Weep as you take in this ugly truth:
Firefight: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

My name is Rebecca Rowan, I am long time resident of napa valley. I have experienced the relief efforts here through numerous floods, the big earthquake in the 90s, and the most current earth quake of 2014. Each time, I was proud of my community and the way we banded together to support on another.
As a native napa woman, I cherish this place and its people with all my heart. So please know, that I am reaching out to you from place of gratitude and love.

The valley fire has been devastating for us. When I heard about the fire the first thing I thought is "what can we do?". The Red Cross mobilized the shelter at the fairgrounds and promptly asked for donations (specifically blankets). On Sunday my husband and I filled his truck up with donations. 50% of which was brand new clothing, tents, water, formula... We co-ordinated with friends to drop off at our home in order to drive it up valley. 5 people came to our home and gave additional brand new items. My husband loaded up the items and went to the designated drop off in napa town only to be turned away. The Red Cross was no longer accepting donations. I googled the valley fire and saw the piles of clothing and food piled high at the fairgrounds... No staging, it looked as if a truck just dumped them there.. We found a church that would take our donations. Perfect! I inquired why the Red Cross wasn't accepting anymore donations and was told, they aren't sorting them. Well, I knew how to organize and merchandise, I had worked for over a decade in fashion. THIS was how I could best contribute! Great! I went up to the fairgrounds in Calistoga. It was about 3/4pm when I got there.
It was a mess.

I couldn't even believe it. I have photos of the piles. Brand new clothes getting dropped in the dust, toys becoming undone and dirty, perfectly good blankets and towels, destroyed.
This couldn't happen! These items were needed. I pushed out of my mind thoughts of getting there sooner and how much more pulled together it COULD HAVE BEEN & put myself to work!

Bending over for hours with no break or food, I diligently sorted and sifted through bags upon bags. I spent my time hugging the victims and talking about their efforts to get out. We cried together as I heard heroic stories of people ditching their cars and out running the fire... Driving through walls of fire... Letting their livestock out of their cages to fend for themselves... I can't imagine what they faced when they did... It was very humbling. So while we spoke, I chatted with them about their immediate needs. What could they need that night? These were people that had nothing. Sifting through the piles unorganized donations we found what they needed... This was good, hard work. I felt very in touch with the needs of the Middletown/ hidden valley fire victims. These were my neighbors... I felt honored that I could be there for them.

After some time I became frustrated. The amount of sorting and lack of help was overwhelming and my back hurt from bending over. I was taught that the Red Cross SHOWS UP in these situations but after hours of volunteering I saw no one from the ARC in their red vest. Taking matters into my own hands, I decided it was time to ask for help. I walked over to the main building and asked for 10 volunteers. Volunteers that I could see by looking around were available. I was quickly dismissed that the Red Cross did not manage donations. I found this ironic since they blasted every local news station asking for these donations but now that they have arrived, the ARC didn't "handle donations". I explained that it seemed rather absurd. I was instructed to mind my own and would be asked to leave if I became combative. Not wanting to take away from those in need I quieted myself and went back to work, at night, with no flash light or head lamp. I continued to work until 11:30pm, no one from the Red Cross checked on us once. Not once.


Monday was my second day there. I got there around 10am... I was exhausted but no matter, I drank some coffee and got to it. Sifting, sorting, hanging... It was getting better... Slowly. Once again, I asked the Red Cross if they could help with the donations. They again said no.

I decided to go check up on the main ARC volunteer building. It was filled with people in their red vests hanging around talking to one another, using their laptops, texting on cells... Ample food was out. Donated by local restaurants. They looked rested and clean. In contrast, I was filthy from sorting in the dirt outside, my back was aching from bending over for hours at a time, and my face poofy from crying with the victims.
They ate the food being donated by my community kitchens, yet weren't doing any of the grit. We community volunteers were having an entirely different experience. As I was walking out, they were so kindly taping off their offices so victims and community volunteers felt uncomfortable "checking in" with them with red tape that said "do not cross"-oh ok then.

I would also like to note I blasted about 8 facebook groups indicating we needed help sorting donations on a daily basis. Approx 5,000 people got my message. About 25 in total were turned away by the Red Cross (by my count) because they said that they had enough volunteers. When in actuality, the community was overwhelmed by the donations and we couldn't get the ARC whom had the infrastructure in place to coordinate the donations, simply wouldn't. It was a sad moment for my community but a great one for bureaucracy.

For me, this was very upsetting. I was drowning in donations and I come to find out that my very needed help has been turned away! Once again, I approached the Red Cross (an organization that my family donated to and had believed in) and requested "please don't turn anyone away we need help!". And was then told to "go away". Literally. I left on Monday defeated and overwhelmed. This was turning into one of the best and worst experiences in napa.

I took Tuesday and wed to myself.
Thursday back at it! Up in Calistoga by 10am, coffee in hand! Come to find out that the Red Cross doesn't want the community volunteers to organize the donations on site. We have moved to the Calistoga watering plant. I ended up knowing a lot of people here and saw some friends that were helping, this time no one was turned away. The community was taking charge. I inquired why we weren't at the fairgrounds, the consensus was the Red Cross did not want us on site. While I was at the warehouse labeling, sorting, and distributing... I saw at least 20 or so Red Cross workers standing off to the side, in the air conditioned offices, doing nothing. They didn't even update us on the immediate needs for the victims... Actually, the only time one of them spoke to me, was to cut in front of me to use the bathroom. That was it. What the ARC bureaucrats were fighting for was control, power, credit, praise for themselves

On that same day, my husband split from me to work at the fairgrounds. He told me that he showed up to more piles of disorganized donations (so there was a drop off there?!)... His background is in operations and he instinctively knew how to compartmentalize the items and delegate the tasks. He volunteered for a minimum of 8 hours that day, no one from the Red Cross spoke to any of the volunteers to pitch in or check in at his post. Once again, the community response was 100%...

I have heard rumors that the Red Cross took over lunch for wed... And only cooked for150 persons when the boosters cook for a min of 500... I guess not everyone needs to eat?
The local community has been fighting to recover the lives of people who were burned out, who lost everything but their lives and the clothes on their backs, who have to start over totally. At times, I wonder why the ARC is even here?

I shared this post on FB, along with others, and it got media attention. So, the Red Cross can run, but they can't hide!

I am really glad that this information is out in the open for all of us to ponder and discuss. At the same time, I hope we are smart enough to realize we cannot expect perfection in times of crisis

Regarding donations, I've always known that Red Cross donations go to them nationally, helping many people not just our immediate neighbors. I support that philosophy but also make sure in times of local need, that I donate to local organizations, as well.
My 2 cents,
Gypsey

Thanks, Jessica.
The bottom line is that random though well intentioned donations create labor and time commitments whereas a well financed and organized effort by relief professionals works more efficiently.
Yes, people are in immediate need...but who is going to manage the pipeline after the drop-off of all these goods?
This is where volunteers can help.

I'd like to add that I understand from the PD article how serious the relief issues/conflicts are. I am so grateful to the Red Cross, but it seems clear that it needs to learn from this situation and improve its first responder program, as well. Let's work together to create transparency without blaming and improve our first response to Katrina, the Lake County Wildfires, and so many worldwide tragedies where the Red Cross is first on the ground..

I don't think that most of us expect perfection. Personally I don't believe it in. Also, I don't think many people question how their donations, are really used. They just trust, which is why many large organizations and churches pay marketing experts to develop campaigns that pull in millions, and even billions of dollars. One TV church is suggested that people can "buy" a piece of heaven for an obscene amount of money, and they're getting it.

I only just discovered that the Red Cross only gives 8 cents of every dollar to help disaster victims. I don't know about you, but I'd never contribute to them, now that I know this. I also didn't know that they received half a billion dollar for Haiti relief, and built 6 homes.

Did you see the chart of Red Cross salaries? This is where the rest of the 82 cents goes, along with marketing and other necessities of running this large organization. Are you really o.k. with this? Still want to contribute?

There's been on ongoing investigation for the past 18 months, and I really hope that the hidden truth will be visible for all to see. They've gotten away with it for too long, and are no better than any mafia organization, in my opinion.

In my lifetime, I've found that giving directly to those in need makes sure that they are helped. I've been doing that most of my life. I feed, clothe, provide transportation, and emotional support, even now when my own resources have shrunk. If I wasn't disabled, I would have been there, standing shoulder to shoulder with those volunteers. I wonder how many Wacco members did go and volunteer. Maybe they will for Harbin.....

The Red Cross volunteers wouldn't touch those donations, but stood by watching, and then ate the food that the resident volunteers made. Yes, they are well organized and trained to do certain things, and no more. That's the beauty of a well financed and organized relief system, which helps things work more efficiently, while programmed to ask for money every chance they get. It's really a beautiful racket, that's working very well for those at the top of the food chain.

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I was just talking to a volunteer fireman who had an unbelievable tale to tell ... he said that he went up to Lake County to help with the fires and he was told to leave ... he also said that a few veterinarians went up to help injured animals and they too were told to leave ... he also said that the Red Cross were staying in top rated accommodations and that he knew for a fact that they were throwing donations away ... he put this down to them wanting money more than anything else ...

I hate second hand info so when I speak to him again I'll try to get him to post here ....

This story sounds way over the top. The people that are presenting themselves as Red Cross volunteers could be imposters. Unless these volunteers are just power hungry and not mentally healthy, this story sounds far fetched. Disasters can and do attract predators that prey on the weak when they are in crisis. Whoever the people may be that are blocking genuine rescue efforts appear to be representing their own interests. This is my interpretation of a story that does not seem to make much sense.

I would suggest having real authority figures intervene immediately. There are remedies for this kind of behavior. Why would any dedicated fireman just walk away from a disaster site? Is he really a fireman? This does not sound like fireman behavior. Within the last week, five people have been arrested in Lake County who were charlatans (imposter) cops. I have to wonder why many people are of so afraid to stand up and push through difficult situations when they can clearly see a great need. Now if their judgement is way off and they are exhausted or otherwise, that could be a valid reason. When people or animals are in harms way, by all means get them the help they need. Do not tolerate bullies or imposters who are blocking and benefiting from any tragedy. I suggest pushing through these barriers when important tasks must occur. One cannot just have a badge or a uniform. Proper ID must be proved if one is representing the Red Cross or the fire or police dept.

Isn't this just the way America is now? All the certified people and their organizations needing way more than what it really takes, and doing so poorly with the vast amounts of money's they have have become used to. Clarion call, where are the legal hounds?

I find Rebecca Rowan's words to be a reasonable truth

Sue the Red Cross for Ineptitude!

I agree ... I don't know this person very well and I thought that this sounded a bit off ... I will try to verify ....

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This story sounds way over the top. The people that are presenting themselves as Red Cross volunteers could be imposters. Unless these volunteers are just power hungry and not mentally healthy, this story sounds far fetched. Disasters can and do attract predators that prey on the weak when they are in crisis. Whoever the people may be that are blocking genuine rescue efforts appear to be representing their own interests. This is my interpretation of a story that does not seem to make much sense.

I would suggest having real authority figures intervene immediately. There are remedies for this kind of behavior. Why would any dedicated fireman just walk away from a disaster site? Is he really a fireman? This does not sound like fireman behavior. Within the last week, five people have been arrested in Lake County who were charlatans (imposter) cops. I have to wonder why many people are of so afraid to stand up and push through difficult situations when they can clearly see a great need. Now if their judgement is way off and they are exhausted or otherwise, that could be a valid reason. When people or animals are in harms way, by all means get them the help they need. Do not tolerate bullies or imposters who are blocking and benefiting from any tragedy. I suggest pushing through these barriers when important tasks must occur. One cannot just have a badge or a uniform. Proper ID must be proved if one is representing the Red Cross or the fire or police dept.

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No, I'm saying that I doubt the story that I was told by the supposed fire fighter that I encountered ... this was a person that contacted me about a different matter and then went on to tell me all about the Lake county fire ... we shall see if he is able to verify any of this story or if he is willing to speak out publicly about it ...

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This story sounds way over the top. The people that are presenting themselves as Red Cross volunteers could be imposters. Unless these volunteers are just power hungry and not mentally healthy, this story sounds far fetched. Disasters can and do attract predators that prey on the weak when they are in crisis. Whoever the people may be that are blocking genuine rescue efforts appear to be representing their own interests. This is my interpretation of a story that does not seem to make much sense.

I would suggest having real authority figures intervene immediately. There are remedies for this kind of behavior. Why would any dedicated fireman just walk away from a disaster site? Is he really a fireman? This does not sound like fireman behavior. Within the last week, five people have been arrested in Lake County who were charlatans (imposter) cops. I have to wonder why many people are of so afraid to stand up and push through difficult situations when they can clearly see a great need. Now if their judgement is way off and they are exhausted or otherwise, that could be a valid reason. When people or animals are in harms way, by all means get them the help they need. Do not tolerate bullies or imposters who are blocking and benefiting from any tragedy. I suggest pushing through these barriers when important tasks must occur. One cannot just have a badge or a uniform. Proper ID must be proved if one is representing the Red Cross or the fire or police dept.

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Shandi,
I was very interested to read of your stats re the Red Cross. Where did you get your info from? As someone who has worked with non-profit grantors and therefore is familiar with independent, reliable rating sites, I accessed those re the ARC. Per these sites (three of them) I came up with the reverse of what you say. Per these independent rating sites, the ARC gives 90+/-% to programs and just 8+% goes to admin and fund-raising.
I look forward to your sharing where you sourced your info.
Thanks

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I'd like to add also that in spite of the ARC's ratings as quoted in my earlier response, the investigation into the ARC after Hurricane Sandy is ongoing. The ARC officials continue to defend themselves against any allegations of wrong-doing. DO I believe them? Not exactly.

I worked in Canada as a consultant for United Way of Canada shortly after THEIR big scandal and resulting investigation broke. The truth was, they had many of the problems that the ARC is currently accused of. They had to clean up their act, and if the ARC is to survive and serve, to the extent it is guilty, it too, will have to change and return to living its values and mission. (Of course, the investigation is not concluded yet, so we really don't know. What I do see from these reports that mirrors the wildfire disaster experience was more direct lack of customer service. An issue that has to be addressed with the ARC.)

Does this make them "no better than the mafia?" No. United Way was pilloried for its mistakes and for the people who made these mistakes. They were able to grow and learn from being held accountable and continue to play a vital role in society for the people who need them the most. Let's hope that the ARC grows and continues to serve, and that while we hold them accountable, we do so fairly and with support to help them change. Their mission and the service they can and have provided, is too important to just bash them because we are mad.

I got these stats from several sources, but I'm not going to go back and research them. There is a copy of the bloated salaries that were posted on WaccoBB, days ago. What is actually more important to me are the eye witness reports of victims and donors at ARC sites. Also, the reports about actual relief efforts after serious disasters, as in Haiti (where half a billion was raised, and 6 houses were built). Hurricanes Sandy and Katrina also bring suspicions about spending.

We know that large corporations, funded by the public and the government, have plenty of ways to hide facts, which they usually do. Greed is a powerful force.

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From The Press Democrat today:

Red Cross alternatives
EDITOR: The Red Cross label guarantees nothing in terms of high quality disaster response. As a Red Cross volunteer in New Orleans following Hurricane Katrina, I was appalled by the disorganization and waste in that organization’s operations and vowed that I would never again contribute money or time to it. When a disaster strikes, there are usually alternative groups — often local, even informal — that will likely make better use of aid resources.
KATHERINE LACY
Healdsburg

Surely the sources for these stats are important and not easily forgotten, given the dramatic and highly negative stats you quote?
Impugning the integrity of any organization or person surely asks of us as ethical people, to be willing to supply our sources.

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I don't have to provide anything, and if you want to believe that they have integrity, and don't cheat and steal from victims, that's your right. Maybe you could join them, and be a proud volunteer, like the ones at our Valley Fires. Or did you volunteer as a concerned citizen?

Surely, you've done your research, and know about the ongoing investigation into the ARC? Also, there are many, many reports on this "out of integrity" organization. I'm not the only one impugning their ? integrity. You can see it all, if you do a search. Here's one that fairly current: https://nonprofitquarterly.org/2015/07/10/sen-grassley-demands-answers-from-the-red-cross-on-spending-in-haiti/

I'm feeling sadness, to see all the appeal in bashing the American Red Cross.

I've been feeling great sadness for the past two weeks, following the Valley Fire destruction of homes, animals, and lives. I'm unable to turn away from the devastating losses, as I use my time to share information and resources. The truth of the Red Cross actions should not be buried; sometimes bashing is necessary to bring the truth of damage and victimization. Would you consider bashing criminals, murderers, pedophiles, etc? Or would you just feel sadness for them? Bashing is a form of striking out in anger, when we feel powerless. Have you ever bashed your government, or do you just feel sadness? If you were victimized by the Red Cross, how would you feel? Sad? Angry? What would you do? Nothing? Anything? Have you ever been victimized by any organization? Do you remember how you felt?

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Obviously, this organization has a great deal of power to "take over" in any disaster situation ... if they are dysfunctional or disorganized then this must be made public so that changes can be made ... my sorrow has to do with people in need who don't receive help because of all of this ....

https://www.propublica.org/article/t...ecret-disaster

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How awful!! People trying to quick educate donaters/fund raisers to make sure their heartfelt efforts are funnelled directly to those they're making the effort for instead of the Red Cross black hole of secrecy with it's history of corruption and serious income/distribution unaccountability..... when it's so much more pleasant to ignore all the threats to the pretty wonderland in your mind and pretend government agencies are only well meaning.

I thought we were just reminded again that where there's smoke there's fire and warnings are very worth our time.

I also realized a lot of sadness from all the money our community gave through the Red Cross that will never help anyone in the Valley Fires. The bashing came too late to stop the flow into their black hole of secrecy. I can only hope that any future fund raisers know not to give to the Red Cross, or the Redwood Credit Union. If anyone plans on giving through auction or meal purchases, ask where the money's going. Don't assume anything!

I will track the funds that were raised today @ SCC for the "Valley Fire Victims." No worries folks. I understand numbers and am not intimidated by any bureaucracy or institution. What an incredible turnout today for the benefit of the Valley Fire Victims. I am very impressed and relieved to know that there are so many kind well meaning and generous loving people in this community who are on the right track for a better world willing to help their fellow man.

For all of the people that showed up at the Sebastopol Community Center today,Sunday. 9/27, I would like to let each and every one of you know from all of my heart how much it meant to me to witness the love, the generosity and the pure heart intentions I felt. Let's not sweat the small stuff."United we stand, divided we fall."

Let us all be proactive by stonewalling anyone or any organization that supports destruction and exploits victims in all realms. This includes disabled people, abused people of all ages, victims of disasters and animals that must be helped and rescued. We all must do our part, no matter how big or small. It all counts and adds up to a grand total.

I am feeling overwhelmed with gratitude and relief more than I can express as I write this posting. This is a beautiful community. No worries. I am committed to making sure these funds go to where there are supposed to go. Great Blessings to you all. With much love and peace to each and everyone of you that made this benefit for the Valley Fire Victims an overwhelming success today at SCC. You know who you are. Let us stay strong as we unite our positive intentions. Never give up helping and caring about one another. Wishing you all Many Fine Blessings. Stargazer.

These policies also occur locally. A few years ago Santa Rosa parks and rec planned to shut down the Bennett Valley Senior Center in spite of our loud protest. Our SOS committee through fundraising, gathered 3,000 signatures of protest and $25,000 only to have the director of the department swoop in to demand the $$$$$$ for the general fund. At least we got their attention. The final result was that the senior center got hours cut to half time and they got to keep the $$$$$. Don't let 'em grind you down, keep protesting.

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I've seen various allegations against ARC, but I haven't seen any complaints about the RCU fund. What have you seen to warrant this??

Thanks Barry for your post. As I've said before, I think it's important that we not indiscriminately bash organizations without presenting solid facts. I am reminded of 9/11 and Cantor Fitzgerald, who in the early days pledged to care for the families of their fallen. The problem was, their entire HR department was killed as well as a total of almost 700 people. There was no way they could fulfill the expectations of these anguished bereaved. Rancor ensued and the media picked up on it, CF was pilloried and demonized. But the truth was, by getting back on track and pledging profits and advocacy to the families, they honored their pledge.

This is just one example of why am so bothered by unchecked sources and "bashing without balance."

I read that the RCU was giving the money to the ARC, but I haven't checked with RCU, but it should be public information, just like we should know how much money actually goes to the Valley Fire victims from ARC. People who support the ARC should be able to show evidence of what they've provided to victims in disasters. Where's the accounting of the half billion received for Haiti? Where did that money go? Where will the money go that was given for Valley Fire victims?

RCU's Fire Relief page says "100% of your donations will go to aid those impacted by the Lake County fires".

Now that may be to subsidize their 0% loans offer. I suppose that counts.

Yes, that's how they aid fire victims: from their Fire Relief page:

Lake County Fire Victims Financial Assistance Programs

If you're impacted by the Lake County area fires, RCU has special financial assistance programs including:

• 0% loans. (up to $5,000 for 1 yr.)
• Special low loan rates on autos & RVs for those who lost vehicles and homes in the fires.
• Payment relief and more. ?

Have any fire victims used RCU to assist with their needs? Please share details.

Bashing the American Red Cross is very similar to the bashing of Planned Parenthood!

no. i've known people who have worked and volunteered for both organizations. they are not similar at all. pp is way more professional, accountable, and transparent. arc is a vulture feeding on disaster, not that they don't do good things, often they are essential when the tragedy is small, like families displaced by residential fire. pp fights consistent critics in the battlefield of reproductive health, stressful to work for, efficient operation. different critics, different focus, different problems, no comparison.

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This appears to be a discussion, therefore it belongs in a different category, right?

Nationally they are known to pay .08 cents on the dollar for actual help. The rest is their promotions, staging costs and salaries I guess. Millions for the CEO. And to think Redwood Credit Union is receiving a million local dollars in its Valley Fire Relief Drive - all of which will go to the Red Cross - don't they vet their non-profits?

Unbeknownst to many, including myself, until I personally have been attempting to work through Sen. Mike McQuire's office for several pressing issues this year that affect our underserved population and others, I must address my findings in a public forum in some way. The phone lines at Sen. McQuire's office continually ring busy. They appear to be or are "Out of Order" and are not working for many weeks now.

The pressing issues that I am committed to addressing are in regard to the many victims of disasters which include victims of abuses that come in many forms. My major focus and efforts have been devoted to working and advocating for special needs individuals who are people who do not have a voice or a choice in their lives.There is no excuse to not be continually available to do your job that you are compensated for not when you are elected and paid to represent a large number of humans. There is no excuse to not do your job even if you are not elected and choose not to be a politician. If being a paid representative is more about hanging out with family & friends or doing fund raises to continue to stay on your path for your special interest groups, this is why many politicians do not accomplish or solve enough pertinent issues in today's challenging times.

We must ask some questions. We must have a better check and balance system. We must strive for accountability. It is time to stand up and pay attention before it is too late and all chances have passed us by. I have found this "BUSY" excuse to be the new acceptable norm now, seemingly used by many not just by our elected officials.." Busy doing what, one must be willing to ask of others as well as themselves?" Accountability and responsiveness seems to be an outdated trend.

Getting back on topic I must ask this question. Why do we not have more civilian review boards made up of regular common type folks? Senator's are our elected representatives. Sen Mike McQuire is the head of "human services." I am a strong committed advocate for many, including developmentally disabled adults who are clients of our CA Regional Centers. (Perhaps a new thread can be started for this topic at another time.) I do not get paid for what I do. Actually, it costs me money to do what I do. It is too much trouble and takes too much time. I do not have enough time to organize a non profit for the causes I work tirelessly for. I just do it, because these causes are important to me. I do what I do because I stand by my core values. I see a need very clearly that is not being addressed or recognized by many.

Since the "Valley Fires" have occurred the phone lines ring busy at the senators office all the time. The senators office is located in the "State" building on "D" between 1st and 2nd streets, downtown Santa Rosa. No matter what time one tries to call their offfice, even if their office is closed before or after hours, their phone lines ring "BUSY." I was told when I stopped by their office in person recently, they have three phone lines and are hard at work. I observed a few individuals just sitting at their desks doing pretty much nothing. When I've sent a friend in their office on my behalf to ask the employees who work for the state at the senator's office what was going on with their phone lines, he was told the same thing as I was told. What he did notice though, was a plant being slowly pruned by one employee and lots of sugar candy in many places in their office around in bowls. If they are so busy helping out due to the fire victims, are they really that busy?

Take a look for yourself at all our our representatives. What do they do with their time? When I attempted to make an app't with Sen McQuire a few months ago regarding the extreme level of abuse that occurs in group homes and residential facilities, I had to keep calling back (when their phones were working) to get any kind of an an answer. Then finally I was told, "Oh the senator has a busy schedule and cannot meet with you." I had a Medical Doctor(MD) who was willing to fly to Santa Rosa from Los Angeles to accompany me to this proposed meeting to assist me in presenting my facts that I know to be true and have wintessed." I must ask: If someone like myself who is committed to changing laws to stop the many conflicts of interest within our legal system that allow our disabled population to continually be abused and dehumanized why are we in this very sad state of affairs? When our representatives are to be busy to address factual provable data something is very wrong.

When I can prove how the taxpayers funds are being wasted and many services are not available because these certain elitists pay themselves well while many others needlessly suffer. I can not find any manyof the people who are in power who are paid to listen and can action but will not. Try calling some of these people. You will get a voice mail. You may or may not receive a call back. If you do get a response, you are passed off to some other agency or told to fill out a form and to get the form of some website. When the victims of all kinds of abuses are put in situations where their perpetrators are allowed to continue to abuse their victims and our representatives are not interested in having a meeting regarding these issues for one hour of their time, what are their priorities?

When I've attempted to meet Congressman Jared Huffman and Sen Mike McQuire at a recent ribbon cutting event for a new school for Autistic children at the Wells Fargo Center neither one of these representatives were present. They were both listed on the schedule to be present at this celebratory event for the milestone and significance of this gathering of families of Autistic children and other interested concerned involved supporters like myself.

The excuses that were announced ten minutes before the ribbon cutting was to occur for both of these representatives, were "One had a prior family committment and the other was at Howarth Park at a campaign function. They were both very sorry that they could not attend. When one is continually persistent as I am for the rights and lives of "human beings not to mention all of the animals that need rescuing," when I show up in person at the senators office, I am given a sheet of paper with a few pointless questions to fill out and told to come back some other time. .More "busy work and another stalling tactic to get me to go away for awhile"

Never mind the long detailed document I have already submitted for the legislative committee to review in Jan, 2016 to put some new effective laws on the books. I have spent countless hours drafting a detailed document together with an attorney specifying the amount of wasted taxpayers funds and conflicts of interest that exist in the State of CA. This document specifically addresses certain situations that are factual and easily provable. Now the Children's Village is slated to be closed in addition to Sonoma Developmental Center (SDC) in Eldridge near Glen Ellen. I say it is high time to get to the bottom of why our representatives are not available to help the our most vulnerable population which really is everyone in some way and of course many to a noticeable extreme. The ones that need the most services are disposal in our modern culture. We are all vunerable. That's a reality. We are all aging. Many can have health issues that require proper services.

In simple terms: Anyone could be born with or develop a "BRAIN INJURY." for a multitude of reasons. I am seeking positve changes. I want to see more accountablitiy. I want the priorities in Sonoma county to be based on what really matters and effects all of us that live here. Do we want to put individuals of all ages, including children and our elders in a system that puts them in harms way? Are we going to stand around and allow this?? Ask yourself this question and see what you want to do. I am heading many of these efforts up by myself. I work many hours and at all times. I do not get paid. Yes I used to work for the over priveledged who generally displayed little gratitude and lacked compassion for others. I have learned through the many years I've committed and sacraficed my personal time and energy, that "most people" do not want to hear, see or know the truth. I was at a gathering today of what one would refer to as "progressive thinkers." Yes many of those people were certainly accomplished and intelligent from their endeavors of many different sorts."

When I mentioned to one individual that I would consider to be rather outspoken and opinionated on most every issue, that I was going to court this week to advocate for a disabled person, then I proceeded to say to him "I am looking forward to a social gathering on the weekend in "west county" that I was invited to, he said to me "Hope you do not bring your baggage with you." I responded in a non reactive calm way. My response to him was "No I was not planning on bringing any baggage to a fun social gathering. The only baggage I have is carrying this heavy chair and my nap sack that I have strapped to my back." I silently laughed at him while reflecting on his comment which is a common deflection of many l have noticed. Denial, Ignorance, Indifference, Judgement and Arrogance is not the solution to the complexities we face as a society today.

The smartest person I had encountered at this gathering I had attended was a 13 year old boy. Him and I had some very interesting dialogues we had addressed. I had asked this young boy some very poignant questions. He was sharp and quick witted. He had his own perspective on everything from the internet to video games to politics and more. I jokingly said this young person, "would you ever consider being President of this country if you were 21?' He quickly responded to my question and said "NO, it would take too much of my energy that I do not have to do the job right." No matter how small or big your influence and positive intention for solution is, stand up now and do what you can. If you want to live in a better world, learn COMPASSION for others while displaying gratitude for the simple pleasures many of us are blessed with and take for granted.

When you wake up in the morning and are breathing. When you are able and are aloud to make your own choices, realize how fortunate you really are. Walk your talk. Take positve steps to create positive results. Stop the battle. Do not fall prey to the design for destruction. Be proactive for positive solution and change. Walk through your fears. Face your life and yourself. Live in the now. Learn to forgive and let go of what has happened. Help yourself. Stay strong. Help others. Many of us do this already.

My point in putting this message out to this community is to help raise awareness and influence more people in taking more personal responsibility. Roll up your sleeves.Get into whatever has significance, meaning and purpose to you. Save a life, save yourself. Be part of the solution, not the problem. A big THANK YOU if you are already proactive and are doing your part as best as you can. With many Blessings and much Gratitude for a healthier world. Peace. Stargazer

I forced myself to read through your long statement, and want to suggest that if you separate subjects into paragraphs, more people will read them. I did it only because it's a priority interest. People may start to read it, and give up, which you don't want. It's very difficult on the eyes to try to read a huge block of type. Our eyes need white space for relief.

I empathize with you, and applaud your dedication. I also commiserate with the lack of concern for others in our county (and beyond), from those who have what they want and need.

I subsist on social security, and if I do happen to bring in a little cash from an EBay sale, it's put into a small fund to help friends who are mentally or physically ill. I've been helping one person for 25 years, and started when I had a good job. Now, I can't help as much, and there are more friends becoming desperate to avoid
homelessness, mostly senior women.

I would get some official help from the TV station that does this kind of thing. I can't recall the name, but it's an investigative resource. You may know it.

Also, you may want to affiliate with a "non-profit fiscal sponsor". You don't have to start a non-profit, and being
under a fiscal sponsor gives you non-profit status. It can happen very quickly. I volunteer for MOTHER non-profit, a fiscal sponsor for community projects. mothernonprofit.org
We got our first application for a community project involving horse rescue, and grant funds have been applied for by the organizer.

The things you mention about Denial, Ignorance, Indifference, Judgement and Arrogance are realities, even amongst the "higher consciousness" people in our community. This is a sad commentary on our community, even though there are people like ourselves who do "compassion in action". Most of the giving is done by those who have little, not those who have a lot. I too, have worked for wealthy people, and seen the addiction to more and more things, while their own children starve for attention, while being given Ritalin, and whatever thing they want.

I've only worked for one wealthy Sebastopol couple who gave generously to charities, and individuals that worked for them. They are both gone now, and I hold them in my heart as true examples of compassion in action. All of their employees were left money in their will. Unheard of in my experience!

I have doubts about being able to transform the hearts of those in denial. Maybe if they're afflicted personally, a change is more likely. Something has to crack their hearts open, and it's usually not words, but personal crisis.
Some people may be changed with words from people like Martin Luther King, Kennedy, etc.

I appreciate all that you do, and it's not even all listed here. There's much more I could say, but mainly just want you to know that there is someone who thinks and feels with you.

I'm planning to go to the Wacco picnic, though I've never attended before. My friend has encouraged me to go.
I've been posting on Wacco since 2005 when it started. I must have 1200 or more posts, though most members are strangers to me, except for their written expressions. I became disabled in 2007, and have been living on social security since then. I don't go out much, but prefer to do my activism from my desk, with my words and networking. I don't look disabled, but have severe arthritis in hips, feet, and hands that has slowed me down. I'm 73, and have recently started a networking group for senior women to connect for shared housing. I'm also a Cat Advocate, and have a new FB page for that.

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The RCU has been investigated, and it's posted somewhere here, that they distributed funds to local non-profits, and NONE to the ARC. I was very glad to know this, since I hadn't received a response from my inquiry on how much was collected and how it was going to the fire victims.

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Nationally they are known to pay .08 cents on the dollar for actual help. The rest is their promotions, staging costs and salaries I guess. Millions for the CEO. And to think Redwood Credit Union is receiving a million local dollars in its Valley Fire Relief Drive - all of which will go to the Red Cross - don't they vet their non-profits?

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I have not had time to review much of anyone's comment's. I know I need to separate my paragraphs and correct spelling errors. I work tirelessly and right now at all hours during the night. I am preparing for a court case. I only have one more day to do so. Today is a holiday for the courts, so they are closed. I believe that I will prevail on Wed @ 9 AM. Please PRAY as hard as you all can that I will PREVAIL for a very serious case regarding abuse. Best Blessings for all. Peace. Stargazer

Then it is day one, today, Monday that their phones lines are open again. Thanks. Stargazer

I'm sharing a recent FB post from the group, "I love Northern California" which is a group focused on photography, but this has to do with the ARC, so I'm sharing it:

Shared post from "I love Northern California":

"A lady up here, HVL, has 2 sons who are firefighters..both lost their apartment in the ‪#‎ValleyFire‬....So..they go to Red Cross for help...This is what happened!!!!..Just Unbelievable!!!!

......."Teresa Pinckney Welter: ...."Ok more reason to NOT support The Red Cross. 1st hand experience of the SCAM that it is! So Anthony Welter and Andrew Welter both received a debit card in the amount of $125 from them due to the loss of their apartment in the Valley Fire. As they are now living back at home until they find a new place they are saving the donations until they need them for replacing their losses. Well Anthony received a call two days ago telling him that he had only a couple of days left to spend the money on the card or it will "expire" and they "will not be able to reissue the funds."

I read everything that comes with the card including the card itself which says the expiration is 3/20 meaning 2020 as in 5 years from now and there is NOTHING that says this ANYWHERE! So even though I think this is crap we drove down to the ATM tonight to withdraw the cash (as it was stated in the message was okay to do) and you guessed it...........it did NOT work and then we tried to make a purchase and it did NOT work.

So apparently your DONATIONS EXPIRE! Anthony was issued this card only four weeks ago (tomorrow) and the money EXPIRED! So YES The Red Cross IS indeed a COMPLETE SCAM! Please SHARE this post. This is UNACCEPTABLE!"

I don't know if this link was posted somewhere in this thread or not but it seems to me that the (dated) info that is in it is still very relevant to this discussion.

https://socialistworker.org/2005-2/5...RedCross.shtml

Interesting recent history with comments about their response to the Valley fire.

https://www.alternet.org/investigati...ter1047421&t=4

Jessica
Daughterofthediviners.com

Jessica,

Thank you so much for sharing this in depth article. I hope that our community reads it. I read recently that a local real estate company collected and donated $40,000 to the ARC. I have to find the article. I believe it was for Valley Fire Victims, and we know that money will never help any of them.

I copied this from the Alternet.org article, since it's one more reason to shun the ARC:

"When a wildfire swept through three Northern California counties in September, the Red Cross showed up but provided shelter to just 25 of 1,000 victims at one site. Because of the charity’s strict rules and disorganization, many evacuees slept outside for over a week, even when the weather turned bad. “These families were sleeping in the rain with their children,” said Wendy Lopez, a local volunteer.

Local officials were so angry they relieved the Red Cross of its duties.

The Red Cross had closed chapters in the area last year. “You’re seeing a huge loss of experienced staff,” said John Saguto, a 15-year Red Cross volunteer in Northern California.

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Here's another expose about the Red Cross

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WHEN GAIL MCGOVERN WAS PICKED to head the American Red Cross in 2008, the organization was reeling. Her predecessor had been fired after impregnating a subordinate. The charity was running an annual deficit of hundreds of millions of dollars.

A former AT&T executive who had taught marketing at Harvard Business School, McGovern pledged to make the tough choices that would revitalize the Red Cross, which was chartered by Congress to provide aid after disasters. In a speech five years ago, she imagined a bright future, a “revolution” in which there would be “a Red Cross location in every single community.’’

It hasn’t worked out that way.

McGovern and her handpicked team of former AT&T colleagues have presided over a string of previously unreported management blunders that have eroded the charity’s ability to fulfill its core mission of aiding Americans in times of need.

Under McGovern, the Red Cross has slashed its payroll by more than a third, eliminating thousands of jobs and closing hundreds of local chapters. Many veteran volunteers, who do the vital work of responding to local fires and floods have also left, alienated by what many perceive as an increasingly rigid, centralized management structure.

Far from opening offices in every city and town, the Red Cross is stumbling in response to even smaller scale disasters.

When a wildfire swept through three Northern California counties in September, the Red Cross showed up but provided shelter to just 25 of 1,000 victims at one site. Because of the charity’s strict rules and disorganization, many evacuees slept outside for over a week, even when the weather turned bad. “These families were sleeping in the rain with their children,” said Wendy Lopez, a local volunteer.

Local officials were so angry they relieved the Red Cross of its duties.

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