5th District Supervisor Race 2016: Noreen Evans vs Lynda Hopkins

Do you have a link to the Hedges? My search didn't come up with it. Thanks!

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look of Chris Hedges article on Unspoken Topics in America to find a great account of his education as a scholarship kid at the kind of schools that the über rich send their kids...you will see how the lack of empathy by the über rich is created and continued.

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Aww jbox... I'm beginning to think you don't like me.....:wink:. Thanks so much for the compliment " all she cares about is the union".... it's something my significant other has said many times and it suffuses me with a rosy Norma Rae- like glow every time I hear it. of course being a daughter of the working class your attacks on my identity as a trade unionist are truly music to my ears- no mattter how insulting you mean them to sound. And as for your other personal attacks "duplicitous, evasive et al. I enjoy them as well because I love how they illustrate the hypocrisy of the Hopkins camp in accusing others of 'attacks and dirty campaigning' while reveling in personal insults just like yours. I also enjoy how Barry periodically takes breaks from admonishing those he disagrees with to 'tone it down' or 'be more civil' while reserving his 'gratitude' for your especially harsh and venal attacks.... indeed it makes me a little wistful to think this might be the end of a beautiful relationship.......

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Thank you, Kitty. As head of the SEIU, Lisa Maldonaldo is responsible for at least $82,000 worth if BS hit pieces against Lynda, often using bogus and misleading claims and often having little or nothing to do with actual facts. ....

Lisa has also been the most duplicitous and evasive poster on this thread, refusing to answer simple questions about her union and how pension issues might affect the county finances. Instead she hurls ridiculous accusations against anyone who raises questions and accuses them of being against working people or being racist or some other poppycock. Lisa Maldonaldo also attacks Hopkins as if she cares about the environment when all she cares about is the union. It is also quite odd that she claims to be against any kind of development when surely this is the sort of activity that can create jobs, even union jobs. Anyone who takes Lisa seriously has a couple screws loose.

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A hearty shout out to say thank you to Tom Lynch. Kudos and gratitude, Tom, for your clear minded, level headed, articulate and entirely civil championing of the need to rethink our pension system for new county employees, and to restructure our county permit system to encourage auxiliary housing units to TRULY resolve the worst housing crisis in our County's history. :Yinyangv: :thumbsup: :heart: :waccosun:

With my heart shattered and my mind still reeling in in shock and horror from watching the toxic red tide sweep over the middle of the nation like a slow motion tsunami of hatred, bigotry, lies and fear…. I want to express gratitude for the beautiful blue bubble in which we live. I feel so privileged to have been debating a detailed dissertation of 2 worthy candidates for Supervisor on the home front here in the 5^th District of Sonoma County.

We had such good choices. The rest of the country should be so lucky.

As I ponder how we will possibly get through the next 4 years, I am thinking that it's time to dig in deeper to our beautiful area and find tangible ways to show up on a local level. Debating on this thread has helped me to more deeply understand forces at work here.

Thank you to everyone who has taken time to read, comment and debate. I'm happy to have you as neighbors, even when we disagreed. We're so fortunate to be here. Let's make the most of it.

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Posted in reply to the post by Lisa Maldonado:

...Thanks so much for the compliment " all she cares about is the union".... it's something my significant other has said many times and it suffuses me with a rosy Norma Rae- like glow every time I hear it. ......

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Well now, it is nice to hear you only care about the union and really don't care about the environment, that your attacks on Lynda Hopkins were nothing more than pious platitudes.

When our new Supervisor negotiates with your union I'm sure she will take the high road and do it in good faith.

Adios, Lisa

The election is over. Can we stop this back and forth attacks, please. If not, Barry, would you consider discontinuing this thread? It is no longer relevant. We now have lots of different work to do with the dramatically changed reality.

In my case, I am no longer send some things to Wacco, like about a Grief Circle that we had at the Grange last night, because it is not worth enduring the anger and attacks.

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Posted in reply to the post by Shepherd:

The election is over. Can we stop this back and forth attacks, please. If not, Barry, would you consider discontinuing this thread? It is no longer relevant. We now have lots of different work to do with the dramatically changed reality. ..

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I know 5th district Supervisor race has been very emotional for many people, and many people are not happy about the outcome.

Perhaps I have been too lenient when it comes to allowing freedom of expression. I tried to maintain the line to keep it about issues and not personal, but i wasn't always successful. Airing differences of opinion within the progressive community is an important mission of WaccoBB, but it can only be successful if we respect everybody.

So I'm going take Shepherd's guidance and close this thread soon. I'll keep it open for another day or so for any last comments. Please be respectful, and I encourage you to use this opportunity to help our community heal.

The campaign is over. Lynda is our new Supervisor. People on both sides fought passionately for what they thought was in the best interest of our blessed county. Sometimes the fight took the high road and sometimes it took the low road, most unfortunately. Please, let's put it behind us, now.

Let's keep the present and future in front of us. As Hillary said, let's keep an "open mind". Let's see what Lynda does now that the campaign is over. While I supported her, I understand Noreen's supporters' concerns. I hope you'll raise your voices either in support or criticism of her actions from an unprejudiced point of view.

Barry

This is my last post on wacky. Take me off.

5th district was bought by some very sleazy people, and nothing hopkins can say proclaiming innocence can change that. She was even photoed with our favorite present 5th sup. It is not a matter of opinion that hopkins and her backers spent something like $750K to steal the election.

So here is what I have to say to any self proclaimed progressive and liberal that voted hopkins. You sold yourself out, were to ignorant and uniformed and/or fell for the numerous lies put forth. As for you Barry, welcome to the bosco boys club who have successfully elected DINOs time after time for years. I am sick at heart. The community will not heal as long as big money buys elections. I no longer trust the so called progressive community in the West County to do anything but be led around. Don't bother to try and talk to me about it.
I'm done with you all.

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Posted in reply to the post by Barry:

...So I'm going take Shepherd's guidance and close this thread soon. I'll keep it open for another day or so for any last comments. Please be respectful, and I encourage you to use this opportunity to help our community heal....

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Posted in reply to the post by Richard Nichols:

This is my last post on wacky. Take me off.

5th district was bought by some very sleazy people, and nothing hopkins can say proclaiming innocence can change that....

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Thanks for your healing words, Richard. :fie:

Here's the thing. While it feels terrible to lose an election, we need to keep this in mind. It's just an election. The people who were assholes and jerks two days ago are still assholes and jerks even though they won an election . The people with principles and ideals are still the good people even though they lost an election. The fights and the issues are still out there and we still need to fight them and be on the right side. #perspective#laluchasigue #wecan'tstopwewon'tstop

And thanks for your delusional politics
Good bye

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Posted in reply to the post by Barry:

Thanks for your healing words, Richard. :fie:

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Just mark 2016 down as yet another election year when rich people bought our representation and installed completely undeserving, unworthy, lying charlatans into power at both the local and national level. America is truly the land of the chump.

Do you think Hopkins will refuse the pension she so abhors, but now qualifies for? Not likely. Countdown to vast expansion and development, expanded wineries and of course, Koefsinger and the Ratto group getting let out of their fines!

I hope to never see her muppet face in my neighborhood again.

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Posted in reply to the post by mouse:

Just mark 2016 down as yet another election year when rich people bought our representation and installed completely undeserving, unworthy, lying charlatans into power at both the local and national level. America is truly the land of the chump.

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where (or when) was this wonderful land you compare us to? We maybe can be great again.

I'm really aghast at the posts that replied to my post that tried to bring some healing after this bitter race.

I'll let these stand as a testament to the raw emotion that is still out there, and how poorly it reflects on the speakers and their cause.

Note how they compare with Noreen's statement:

"This morning I called Lynda Hopkins and offered my congratulations and support and promised to work with her on the challenges our county faces, particularly in view of the results of the national election. As I've said many times during the past year, this election was never about me or my candidacy--we are building a progressive movement here locally. In the immortal words of Bill Kortum, never give up, never back down. I'm grateful for all the people I've met and all those who have helped and been by my side along this journey. Our work has only just begun."

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