Bernies done. Are the Dems too?

Thanks for your specificity. So does Trump retreat or change his views?

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Bernie's success is also his weakness. As a self proclaimed revolutionary, he does not retreat or change his views. Kudos to him, but this is not a recipe for legislative success.

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Examples?

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Your reply leads me to believe that you believe falsehood has been stated. I fear any supporting answer would be viewed through your lens of truth. So is your lens the same as mine? Sorta doubt it. So I'll just say that Bernie can paste a "Democratic" label in front of his brand (it's more pliable) but he's still a non reformed revolutionary. But forget the labels. I don't think his vision will fly.

ps. Other politicians have misled in order to gain advantage. No new taxes, you can keep your doctor and even the big men of WW2.

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Everyone has an opinion.

Who Will Win The 2020 Democratic Primary? This one is a graphical representation of his analysis of who is likely to win more than half of the pledged delegates in the 2020 primary. Bernie Sanders tops the list with a 37% chance. The next closest is Biden with a 16% chance.

Sanders Is The Front-Runner After New Hampshire, And A Contested Convention Has Become More Likely The title speaks for itself. (I should mention that the actual second place in the first article was "No One", with a 36% chance.)

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"But California’s 415 delegates? That’s one serious haul. If Sanders wins big here, home to 9.1 million Democrats, it’s hard to imagine him not heading to the party’s nominating convention in July the presumptive nominee — or at the very least, the overwhelming frontrunner."

https://calmatters.org/blogs/califor...ntial-primary/

And now Amy is out and will endorse Joe. Is this enough to stop Bernie? As a VP, would she help Joe's campaign more than Mayor Pete?

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"But California’s 415 delegates? That’s one serious haul. If Sanders wins big here, home to 9.1 million Democrats, it’s hard to imagine him not heading to the party’s nominating convention in July the presumptive nominee — or at the very least, the overwhelming frontrunner."

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Well, I'd say we will know more in a few hours but it IS California... so we probably won't know the complete tally until after the next big contest March 10th.

I will say, Bernie was polling in CA just over 30%. His only real win has been in NV. Overall - his "victories" or 2nd best has been because the more center left vote has been split between multiple candidates. But unless something changes it's pretty clear the vast majority of Democratic voters don't want him. (yes, Trump and Russia seem to but.. )

And let's be honest - Bernie has been promising this massive voter turnout for him- which so far, has not happened.

If Sanders can sweep Texas and CA he may have a case...even if it's not a strong one. Time will tell.

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Well, I'd say we will know more in a few hours but it IS California... so we probably won't know the complete tally until after the next big contest March 10th.

I will say, Bernie was polling in CA just over 30%. His only real win has been in NV. Overall - his "victories" or 2nd best has been because the more center left vote has been split between multiple candidates. But unless something changes it's pretty clear the vast majority of Democratic voters don't want him. (yes, Trump and Russia seem to but.. )

And let's be honest - Bernie has been promising this massive voter turnout for him- which so far, has not happened.

If Sanders can sweep Texas and CA he may have a case...even if it's not a strong one. Time will tell.

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Agree.
With Bloomberg's money, Biden will be hard to beat. Warren really laid an egg. Will she be the next to drop out (she should). Will she endorse Bernie? Doubtful. Seems clear that Socialism is for the young, but not for the country (sorry Berkeley).

The Original "Smoke-filled Room" :


Brokering the Compromise of 1877

"Ever since the aftermath of the Compromise of 1877 worked out so well for the plutocrats, the bi-partisan Party bosses have been meeting in a smoke-filled room in a Men's Club in Mid-town Manhattan on election years, before the Primaries, to work out who will run in the coming elections =AND= Who will win, place, & show; and where the patronage will go..."

- Edith Fleischer Liggett, in "The Mid-West American," Rochester, Minnesota, 1934.

I thought the Boston Caucus of 1763 was the first appearance of the smoke filled room? But in either case, boys will be boys. Money talks and the ordinary Joe's walk. Nothing really new.