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This is all very interesting information, but what I don't get is that it is 45 yrs after JFK and 95yrs after 1913, and nobody has made a big enough stink to get the masses riles up?
Is congress and the senate in on this conspiracy too?
How come none of these anti-tax organizations ever bring this up?
Are we all that dumb to let this continue?
Or is this just another part of Ron Paul's campaign?
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I suspect we all accept that money is what the government says that it is. "Legal tender for all debts etc". We also tend to think of money as what is really simply currency - something you give someone in return for something. What we're missing is that money is also a store of value. Someone gives you money in return for goods or service that you provide. At that point, you two have agreed what the value of that money is. If you then turn around and spend that money immediately, you have a similar transaction with a third party. But suppose you presently have no need for that third party's goods, so you put the money in the bank until you need it, say next year. You have a reasonable expectation that your money will buy those goods next year. In other words, you think of money as a store of value (the value that you provided to the person who gave you the money). Its this aspect of money that is corrupted by fractional reserve banking, and which we typically see as price increases, as the bank creates purchasing power that it loans out to others that is a multiple of the money you deposited. That loan has been spent, perhaps on buying the goods or services you were expecting to buy but are now more expensive as a result of the extra dollars available to buy the limited supply of goods.
The reason gold, and to a lesser extent silver, were historically used as money is simply that they could not be created out of thin air - they represented a lot of hard work, and also did not disappear into thin air (they don't readily burn, rot or crumble). No magic, just a simple convenience arrived at through trial and error over the centuries. A simple free market solution to the limitations of barter. Note that inflation still occurred occasionally, such as when the Spanish empire plundered the gold of their South American conquests.
Our use of fiat currency and fractional reserve banking is the cause of the huge increase in real estate prices and now their fall.
Fiat currencies always end in disaster, its sad, but true. There's a (in)famous quote from the founder of the Rothschilds bank, Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild “Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws." If you think that we as the people should be in control of our government, we must first regain control of our money.
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This is all very interesting information, but what I don't get is that it is 45 yrs after JFK and 95yrs after 1913, and nobody has made a big enough stink to get the masses riles up?
Is congress and the senate in on this conspiracy too?
How come none of these anti-tax organizations ever bring this up?
Are we all that dumb to let this continue?
Or is this just another part of Ron Paul's campaign?
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Only four presidents have seriously challenged the international bankers who own the Federal Reserve: JFK, Lincoln, Harrison and McKinley. The last two died the same way as the first two; by assassination. That should give you some understanding of how courageous a man Ron Paul is.
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I lost my historybook, did Lincoln get elected before or after JFK?
Wasn't he the founding father of the federal Reserve?
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Only four presidents have seriously challenged the international bankers who own the Federal Reserve: JFK, Lincoln, Harrison and McKinley. The last two died the same way as the first two; by assassination. That should give you some understanding of how courageous a man Ron Paul is.
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On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. The Christian Law Fellowship has exhaustively researched this matter through the Federal Register and Library of Congress. We can now safely conclude that this Executive Order has never been repealed, amended, or superceded by any subsequent Executive Order. In simple terms, it is still valid.
Complete nonsense. All this order did was to rearrange some administrative authorizations (making sure that the Treasury department could carry on its routine business)--which 10 minutes of research into the actual language of the order (or even just the first 3 lines of it, below) would reveal. "Exhaustive" research is, I suppose, what "Christian" lawyers do when their desired conclusion has been easily disproved.
The President didn't have the power to change the system of currency; this was done by an Act of Congress--on the date mentioned above, the Silver Certificate system was abolished by law. That's why the Executive Order was not "repealed"---it expired and became moot under the law signed at the same time.
Please, people, don't trust people with wacky agendas to do accurate legal and historical research. Check the facts before re-posting blatant misinformation.
--Hummingbear
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Executive Order 11110
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SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended - (a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j): "(j) The authority vested in the President by
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** This is my bit of understanding...
( which I learned from my Sovereign friends, whose Constitutional Rights were important enough to them to risk illegal gov't harassment, by refusing to file a Form 1040 personal income tax return with the IRS . It is these Sovereign Americans that believe that all individuals who file tax returns wave their 5th amendment rights..which the Gov't cannot require individuals to waive their 5th amendment rights and therefore cannot compel individuals to file income as tax returns.... a whole other Scam and subject matter !!)
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SO, I would have to concur with: Orchard Dweller, Chris M , and Sharing Wisdom on this one ,until proven otherwise...... (and laughing at Msterry)
As we all are aware, right before the Depression started in 1929, the gold notes and certificates were pulled from circulation. hmmmm.....
These gold notes and certificates were replaced with notes, which instead of being redeemable in gold coin, were redeemable in "lawful money".
VERY FEW, if any Americans were inquisitive enough to challenge or ask the banker as to WHAT was "lawful money" or what "lawful money" meant according to the Constitution. Even today, many do not read or know the Constitution!
* "The terms "lawful money" and "lawful money of the U.S" shall be construed to mean gold and silver of the U.S.." ~ USC Title 12, 152
In 1934, Prez. FDR signed House Joint Resolution 192 making it "against public policy to possess gold coin". Even FDR blamed the American people for the fact that the economy was not rebounding from the depression!
By 1964, there were no more Federal Reserve Notes being issues that were redeemable for money. In fact, according to a lawyer sovereign acquaintance, "50,000,000 of the very first non-redeemable notes were shipped on November 26,1963, the VERY SAME DAY JFK was being buried!
Pres. Kennedy had indeed issued Executive Order 11110 , on June 4, 1963.
These notes could not be redeemed for anything, any more so than Federal Reserve Notes, but at least they had not indebted the People, because they were issued without debt owing to the Fed.
"The high office of President has been used to forment a plot to destroy the American's freedom, and before I leave office, I must inform the citizens of this plight" ~ JFK (at Columbia University , 10 days before being shot)
A "NOTE" is an IOU - a promise to pay-an evidence of debt. Even the Fed itself does not refer to FRN as money! Their own publications often refer to FRNs as "forms" of money. Other possible "forms of" money may include: credit cards, bank drafts, checks, electronic funds transfer, etc.
* "A note is a specific and unconditional promise TO pay" ~ UCC-304-1
The Fed has been so careful to not perpetrate an outright fraud
(YES, Congress did it for them) , at least in so far as to what they state on their "notes". They have NEVER asserted that their currency is "lawful money", for that would be a direct violation of the Constitution, AND the Coinage Act, SEE?!!
Instead, they called it "legal tender"
One word is a noun (money = substance);
the other a verb (tender=action).
Our modern day "fractional reserve" banking system has its roots in early 17th century England.
All in all, Ignorance and lack of awareness MAYBE the number one reason for the country's problem today--
Since it is "the AGE OF AQUARIUS", I would like to see more AWAKENED AWARE beings in the United States and LESS ignorance.
* How many of us REALLY understand our Constitution?
* Is our Constitution still alive and valid or can Congress find their way around it to please the needs of these "international bankers".
* By the way: Dissent IS PATRIOT; and enabling our 1st Amen. Right!
I would like to envision most Americans waking up to realizing what kind of government they have and putting the power back into the hands of the PEOPLE!
OH! and by the way-- our nation IS a REPUBLIC, NOT a DEMOCRACY...
(Contrary to all the government school indoctrination, media distortions, and the political swill of calculated dis-information by gov't. officials).
A Republic rule by the absolute and constant standard of the Law
(the Constitution, the Common Law ) AND, is a true representative Gov't.
A "Democracy" is rule by the uncertain relativism and shifting trends of public policy, based upon the majority opinion of the masses;
it literally to ME...means... "mobocracy"
Truth be told...
ENOUGH for NOW !!
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>I lost my historybook, did Lincoln get elected before or after JFK?
No. Andy F. Lincoln briefly held the Presidency between the resignation of Nixon and the formal oath-taking of Gerald Ford. He happened to be cleaning the Oval Office and picked up the phone when it rang, being drunk at the time. The CIA was engineering a coup to place neo-Nazi George Lincoln Rockwell in office, and they had a gun to the head of the Chief Justice, who administered the oath of office to Rockwell's quasi-namesake. In the Civil War that ensued between 1:30 and 7:00 a.m., when Andy Lincoln was found comatose under the Oval Desk, over 620,000 Americans lost their lives. This of course was covered up by the media, but the proof is that you've never heard it before.
>Wasn't he the founding father of the federal Reserve?
No, the Federal Reserve was a plot by International Communism to undermine capitalism by making it disgrace itself.
C'mon, you lost your history book? You expect to find this stuff in a history book? This is the 21st Century: make up history!
Peace & joy in the search for truth—
Conrad
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Conrad
I think you are in the wrong section.
is what you were looking for!
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>I lost my historybook, did Lincoln get elected before or after JFK?
No. Andy F. Lincoln briefly held the Presidency between the resignation of Nixon and the formal oath-taking of Gerald Ford. He happened to be cleaning the Oval Office and picked up the phone when it rang, being drunk at the time. The CIA was engineering a coup to place neo-Nazi George Lincoln Rockwell in office, and they had a gun to the head of the Chief Justice, who administered the oath of office to Rockwell's quasi-namesake. In the Civil War that ensued between 1:30 and 7:00 a.m., when Andy Lincoln was found comatose under the Oval Desk, over 620,000 Americans lost their lives. This of course was covered up by the media, but the proof is that you've never heard it before.
>Wasn't he the founding father of the federal Reserve?
No, the Federal Reserve was a plot by International Communism to undermine capitalism by making it disgrace itself.
C'mon, you lost your history book? You expect to find this stuff in a history book? This is the 21st Century: make up history!
Peace & joy in the search for truth—
Conrad
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>I think you are in the wrong section.
>is what you were looking for!
Nope, learned that long ago. I have a Ph.D.
Honestly—
Conrad
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does that stand for Philistine Deceptor or Philandering Demagogue ?
And where do you keep your Ph.D.?
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>I think you are in the wrong section.
>is what you were looking for!
Nope, learned that long ago. I have a Ph.D.
Honestly—
Conrad
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Here are some documentaries on the subject of The Federal Reserve. I haven't seen all of them but I can recommend the first two. Please consider watching them - it's very important for Americans to wake up to this scam.
America: Freedom To Fascism
https://video.google.com/videoplay?d...80303867390173
Money Masters
https://video.google.com/videoplay?d...19560256183936
Money, Banking and the Federal Reserve
https://video.google.com/videoplay?d...10540567002553
Money As Debt
https://video.google.com/videoplay?d...74362583451279
Fiat Empire - Why The Federal Reserve Violates the U.S. Constitution
https://video.google.com/videoplay?d...39329002339531
The Monopoly Men
https://video.google.com/videoplay?d...77340464808778
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On CNN recently......
"I believe there are two historical documents that should provide a frame of reference for every American. "The Declaration of Independence" and our Constitution are too often ignored or poorly understood by our elected officials from City Hall to the White House. We're providing these two documents on our Web site for your convenience, and I hope you will join me by reading them often and regularly."
All the best,
Lou Dobbs
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On CNN recently......
"I believe there are two historical documents that should provide a frame of reference for every American. "The Declaration of Independence" and our Constitution are too often ignored or poorly understood by our elected officials from City Hall to the White House. We're providing these two documents on our Web site for your convenience, and I hope you will join me by reading them often and regularly."
All the best,
Lou Dobbs
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On CNN recently......
"I believe there are two historical documents that should provide a frame of reference for every American. "The Declaration of Independence" and our Constitution are too often ignored or poorly understood by our elected officials from City Hall to the White House. We're providing these two documents on our Web site for your convenience, and I hope you will join me by reading them often and regularly."
All the best,
Lou Dobbs