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FatKatmom
07-21-2013, 09:32 AM
I'm curious - does anyone who has an "E" car notice a sizable difference in their elec bill?
About how much does it cost to charge your "E" vehicle?

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Barry
07-22-2013, 09:07 PM
I'm curious - does anyone who has an "E" car notice a sizable difference in their elec bill?
About how much does it cost to charge your "E" vehicle?

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[I got this private email from FatKatmom which she gave permission to post:]

I was curious as to charges for elec. as we noticed a vac rental - one of the renters hooked their car up to the house to charge ....

also fyi - 4 new charging stations are going up on the Sonoma Coast.

In Oct. at the Tides Gas Station 2 trickle charge, 2 fast charge are being installed. half solar/half elec.
concept is to put a station every 10-15 miles along the coast on the East side of the Hwy. Next station will be Jenner Inn, then Ocean Cove Inn, then Gualala country Inn.

I just happened to be at work the am that PG&E, the county arch., and the E station business came to look. Permits have been approved for the first station - so we're going forward.
I have had calls from visitors re the stations. I believe there are 23 now in the county?

Howard
07-22-2013, 10:48 PM
I'm curious - does anyone who has an "E" car notice a sizable difference in their elec bill?
About how much does it cost to charge your "E" vehicle?

[email protected]

I purchase a Nissan Leaf in 2011 and have had it set to charge after midnight. I asked for a Smart Meter so I could do a time of day system that reduces the rates during non peak times. PG&E has a special rate for households with an electric car that you would need to sign up for. Day rates increase to offset the lower night rate. It gets a little complicated since there are base rates and increasing rates the more you use. Long and short of it is that my bills increased about $25 - $30 per month and I get about 750 miles. Hope that helps.

[if you do the math, that's about $1 per 25 miles vs an average of $4 per 25 miles (1 gallon) for gas! - Barry]

spam1
07-23-2013, 09:50 PM
[if you do the math, that's about $1 per 25 miles vs an average of $4 per 25 miles (1 gallon) for gas! - Barry]

Unless you consider new diesels that get 60+ per gallon; elect works to 4 cents/mile vs diesel at 6.6 (and average for gas being 16)
And a recent IEEE article points out that the carbon footprint for diesel in America is less than for electric; electric cars being essentially coal powered. Cool, but still coal powered.

edit: here's the link: https://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/renewables/unclean-at-any-speed
edit: fixed the math (4 c/m not 0.04c/mile; now that's cheap)

tomcat
07-25-2013, 10:16 AM
https://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/renewables/unclean-at-any-speed[/URL]
edit: fixed the math (4 c/m not 0.04c/mile; now that's cheap)

I guess the trick is to have enough solar panels to power your house and your car.

PaulFrench
07-25-2013, 10:46 PM
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I guess the trick is to have enough solar panels to power your house and your car.

Well, the manufacturing of solar panels is pretty dirty too, from what I've heard. To me, the role answer was developed by Nikola Tesla almost 100 years ago and was confiscated by the powers that be so the masses would have to pay, pay, pay for energy rather than be able to make their own for almost free. That's not conspiracy theory, just history and common sense.

Paul