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ruthnew
06-22-2013, 03:11 PM
This site goes through the American Dental Association's Pro-Fluoridation
arguments and refutes them, point by point:
https://www.fluoridedebate.com/index.html

I found it with a Google search: "Fluoride and pipe corrosion," which is
Question 33 here.

Thank you for this post. This morning I read an article about how organic crops are being harmed by the aluminum in chem-trails while GMO seed thrive because they have been modified to. After that I listened to this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6fH2U2l30c "Chemtrails & Nutritional Solutions - Dr. Russel Blaylock Interview 6 19 2013". Dr. Blaylock does offer some anti-inflammatory supplements like curcumin to help neutralize aluminum. He says that if we are exposed to chemtrails and fluoridated water, fluoride binds with aluminum and creates a very highly toxic compound in our bodies.

lilypads
06-22-2013, 08:04 PM
Dr. Waldbott says that the LEAST toxic fluorides are calcium, aluminum, and magnesium, whereas the MOST toxic fluoride compounds are sodium and silicon. Not that that makes us feel better about being poisoned from above and from our water supply!


Thank you for this post. This morning I read an article about how organic crops are being harmed by the aluminum in chem-trails

Barry
06-23-2013, 12:06 PM
Dr. Waldbott says that the LEAST toxic fluorides are calcium, aluminum, and magnesium, whereas the MOST toxic fluoride compounds are sodium and silicon. Not that that makes us feel better about being poisoned from above and from our water supply!

Which is being proposed to be added to the county water supply?

lilypads
06-23-2013, 02:00 PM
Most likely hydofluosilicic acid, which is a hazardous waste, scrubbed from the smokestacks of phosphate fertilizer plants. Not only is it one of the most toxic forms of fluoride, but it also contains arsenic and lead, and it dissolves lead in pipes and puts it into the water.

Here is some info I found recently about the relationship between fluoridated water and its lead content. The lead has 2 sources, the HFS acid and the pipes themselves:


John D. MacArthur states, "History repeats itself. Just like the acidic leaves that leeched lead from the paint on that 18th century roof, fluosilicic acid leaches lead from plumbing. This was graphically demonstrated in two communities that stopped fluoridating their water systems. Their lead levels dropped significantly. During a 1992 drought in Tacoma, Washington, they temporarily stopped fluoridating their water and lead levels dropped from 32 ppb (parts per billion) to 17 ppb. When Thurmont, Maryland stopped fluoridating their drinking water in 1994, the lead level in homes dropped from 30 ppb to 7 ppb. (The EPA's Maximum Contaminant Level is 15 ppb). ("Fluoride Banned in Thurmont, Maryland," Frederick Post , Feb. 3, 1994, p. A-9.) Also see, 13-5: "Letter from C.R. Myrick, Water Quality Coordinator, Tacoma Public Utilities to Washington State Dept. of Health", Dec. 2, 1992, in which he states: "It is interesting to note the 90th percentile lead concentration was 17 ppb this time compared to 32 ppb last time. We have not been using fluoride since the drought this summer." Fluoride was held responsible for the high lead level.
In research funded in part by the Environmental Protection Agency Office of Criminal Enforcement, Forensics and Training (published in August 1999 in the International Journal of Environmental Studies), a survey of over 280,000 Massachusetts children, comparing a matched group in 30 towns that do not use silicofluorides to children in 30 communities that use these chemicals to fluoridate, showed that when silicofluorides were present in the water the children were more than twice as likely to suffer from blood lead above the danger level of 10 micrograms per deciliter of blood. The correlation with blood lead levels is especially serious because lead poisoning is associated with higher rates of learning disabilities, hyperactivity, substance abuse and crime. (See 13-6: "Water Treatment With Silicofluorides and Lead Toxicity," by Roger D. Masters and Myron J. Coplan from the International Journal of Environmental Studies, 1999, Vol. 56. pp. 435-449).
"Children who are black or Hispanic given the same exposures as white children absorb significantly more lead. ... This means that the level set by EPA is marginally safe for white adults, but unsafe for African American or Hispanic children." (See 13-7: letter by William L. Marcus, Ph.D., D.A.B.T., Board Certified Consulting Toxicologist).Herbert L. Needleman, of the University of Pittsburgh's School of Medicine, said, "He found much higher lead rates in a group of juvenile delinquents than in a control group. He used 416 youths-216 delinquents and 200 in a control group. Adjusting for such factors as race, parental education, occupation, family size and crime rate in the neighborhood the youths came from, he found those with high lead levels were twice as likely to be delinquent than those with low levels." ("Chemicals and Crime: A Truly Toxic Effect," by Judy Mann, May 26, 2000, page C 11, Washington Post. Judy Mann can be reached at (202) 334-6109 or at [email protected].)

This came from this excellent website, which refutes the ADA's pro-fluoridation arguments point by point: https://www.fluoridedebate.com/question13.html

Aluminum is toxic, but because it is also highly reactive, as is fluorine, when the 2 bond, they bond tightly and there is less free fluoride (and free aluminum) available to damage us. Calcium and magnesium, which are not toxic. also bond tightly with fluorine. Sodium and silicon, on the other hand, do not bond tightly with fluorine, so their salts fully dissolve in solution, leaving more free fluoride ions to do their damage. When fluoride occurs naturally in water, and the water is also high in calcium & magnesium (i.e. "hard"), the fluoride causes much less damage than when the same amount of fluoride is present in "soft" water--water high in sodium.


Which is being proposed to be added to the county water supply?

lilypads
06-26-2013, 02:26 PM
https://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/18-manhattan-project-covered-up-effects-of-fluoride-toxicity/

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18. Manhattan Project Covered Up Effects of Fluoride Toxicity

Top 25 of 1999 (https://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/category/top-stories/top-25-of-1999/) Apr 30, 2010 Source: WASTE NOT, Title: “Fluoride, Teeth and the Atomic Bomb,” Date: September 1997, Authors: Joel Griffiths and Chris Bryson
SSU Censored Researcher: Corrie Robb
SSU, Faculty Evaluator: Daniel Markwyn

Recently declassified government documents have shed new light on the decades-old debate over the fluoridation of drinking water, and have added to a growing body of scientific evidence concerning the health effects of fluoride. Much of the original evidence about fluoride, which suggested it was safe for human consumption in low doses, was actually generated by “Manhattan Project” scientists in the 1940s. As it turns out, these officials were ordered by government powers to provide information that would be “useful in litigation” and that would obfuscate its improper handling and disposal. The once top-secret documents, say the authors, reveal that vast quantities of fluoride, one of the most toxic substances known, were required for the production of weapons-grade plutonium and uranium. As a result, fluoride soon became the leading health hazard to bomb program workers and surrounding communities.

Studies commissioned after chemical mishaps by the medical division of the “Manhattan Project” document highly controversial findings. For instance, toxic accidents in the vicinity of fluoride-producing facilities like the one near Lower Penns Neck, New Jersey, left crops poisoned or blighted, and humans and livestock sick. Symptoms noted in the findings included extreme joint stiffness, uncontrollable vomiting and diarrhea, severe headaches, and death. These and other facts from the secret documents directly contradict the findings concurrently published in scientific journals which praised the positive effects of fluoride.

Continues at: https://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/18-manhattan-project-covered-up-effects-of-fluoride-toxicity/

dzerach
06-28-2013, 11:42 PM
Sonoma County's Healthy Beverage Initiative... AND? For now, an "awareness" posting only. From the busy office of DHS. Yes, here it comes, the already expected drive to reduce sugary soda consumption. They're hiring two people to shake down the junior soda gulpers, so to speak. A good thing. A soda tax was also proposed in the meetings... As usual, the bad (pro-fluoridation activity) may be bundled in with the good. The posting is here - https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/gov/3899076405.html

Note: Regarding phrase they are using below, "policy-focused environmental prevention strategies..." Drinking water fluoridation is one kind of environmental prevention or "nonvolitional health" strategy. An interview with Dr S.C. explains public health engineering https://scienceline.org/2013/05/nonvolitional-health/ (https:// https://scienceline.org/2013/05/nonvolitional-health/)

Posted June 27th -https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/gov/3899076405.html

The Department of Health Services (DHS) seeks candidates to fill 1 Full-Time & 1 Extra-Help (temporary) "Health Information Specialist II" (Santa Rosa) vacancies in:

The Health Policy, Planning and Evaluation Division (led by Peter Rumble... & Dr S-C, etc. This is the new division that was created in county DHS to respond to Affordable Care Act.)

Note: READY is a new program. It's focused on kindergarten preparedness. It stands for "Road to Early Achievement and Development of Youth." Note key phrases used below: "Healthy Eating;" and "Health Action (Council) Planning Support. "

A push-back against sugary sodas and a pro-fluoridation initiative both fall under "Healthy Eating" as one subject; the two go together per Dr. S-C. The April CHI mtg: "Under the health communities goal, priority areas identified are obesity prevention; sugary drinks; and child immunizations. Strategies identified include supporting a soda tax and fluoridation of drinking water."

A recent Health Action mtg: "The five pillars of action for the oral health priority project were endorsed by Health Action steering: Provision of dental sealants for school-aged children; Use of varnishes in infancy; Expansion of access to dental care; Education on appropriate personal habits such as brushing, flossing, and good dietary practices; Fluoridation of drinking water "

Back to the job openings -

INTRO: The ideal candidate will demonstrate experience in:

Developing, coordinating, implementing, and evaluating prevention focused community-based strategies;
Engaging the community in planning and implementing policy-focused environmental prevention strategies; Facilitating community mobilization and coalition development around key health issues;

Coordinating training and technical assistance to community-based partners; Coordinating media advocacy activities; Conducting data collection and research; and, developing program and policy initiatives to improve health in the community.

Job posting #1 -

READY Coordinator and Health Action Planning Support

"This position will be the lead meeting coordinator for READY and participate in collective impact efforts related to Health Action, Cradle to Career Sonoma County, and Sonoma County Upstream Investments."

"...and the duties for the other half of the position include providing support for Heath Action Planning."

CLEAR AS MUD TO THE APPLICANT:

"The duties for the remaining half of this position, related to Healthy Action Planning, will include working across a range of health issues and local health priorities by bringing people and organizations together to develop a collective vision for the community and to achieve DHS goals. The incumbent will work in teams to design and implement strategies and plans toward achieving the department's 2020 vision in alignment with Health Action goals. The specific focus area(s) will be determined based on Divisional need."

Job Posting #2 -

Would anyone like a well-paying, temporary job? Extra help for the "Healthy Beverage Initiative Coordinator" ?

Healthy Beverage Initiative Coordinator -- Extra Help

This position will coordinate efforts related to Sonoma County's Healthy Beverage Initiative, with a concentrated focus on converging local public health efforts aimed at reducing sugar-sweetened beverage consumption
And increasing healthy beverage consumption, including tap water.

Responsibilities will also include developing partnerships; Leading and coordinating planning processes; Promoting behavioral change through education, media and communication efforts; Identifying and planning around local and regional policy priorities related to this initiative; Data monitoring; And evaluation and assessments.

This position will serve as the evaluation and reporting lead for projects and oversee contract work related to conducting some of the project activities, progress reporting, participation in collective impact efforts related to healthy eating, and working with management and program partners to identify and secure funding to expand healthy beverage and food access efforts.

EXTRA-HELP EMPLOYMENT Extra-help employees relieve or augment permanent staff.

Working Conditions: Duties may require exposure to hostile, emotionally disturbed or mentally ill persons and/or confrontational interpersonal situations ; exposure to communicable diseases; stand for long periods of time; stoop, lift articles in accordance with accepted safety standards; perform physical tasks as required; may work in high risk areas of the community; may be required to work a flexible schedule.

APPLY - https://www.yourpath2sonomacounty.org/

dzerach
06-29-2013, 12:12 AM
Their mention of tap water? An important thing to consider: Some of the classrooms in the county do not have ready access to tap water, as amazing as that sounds.

Sonoma County is divided into 40 school districts. Many portable classrooms were originally installed as temporary classrooms and now have become long term situations on many campuses: they have no running water. Regrettably, these portables became permanent substitutes for the standard classrooms. Many districts' have several of these classrooms on almost every campus. And yes, this opens up yet another aspect of this fluoridation thing. With all of the funding and work afloat focused on children and support for health and learning, I would hope these classrooms are soon slated to receive access to drinking water...
Healthy Beverage Initiative Coordinator -- Extra Help . This position will coordinate efforts related to Sonoma County's Healthy Beverage Initiative, with a concentrated focus on converging local public health efforts aimed at reducing sugar-sweetened beverage consumption
And increasing healthy beverage consumption, including tap water.